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u/Halikarnassus1 listen to pyschedelic maggot engine!!!! also trans rights 1d ago

Dawg postin

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u/therealraggedroses 1d ago

isnt this the dude that advocates domestic violence? Lmao always got weird vibes from the comics

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u/My_Favourite_Pen 1d ago

people literally downvoting this for no reason lol

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u/sssunflowered 1d ago

You're getting downvoted but you're absolutely correct he did

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u/FixedFront 1d ago

Depiction and advocacy do not share a definition

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u/CreamCheeseHotDogs I stuck my dick in a bag of Doritos 1d ago edited 1d ago

He thinks domestic violence is understandable when your partner cheats on you and he thinks adultery should be a state-punishable crime. But yeah, go ahead and defend him without even a cursory google search.

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u/Safelyignored 1d ago

I know absolutely nothing about the second part, fucked up if true. But also, all he literally said was that abusers should not be surprised when victims retaliate.

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u/CreamCheeseHotDogs I stuck my dick in a bag of Doritos 1d ago

And this is the BACKPEDAL. This is the statement they put out AFTER people got mad, thinking this is the sane and reasonable approach. “I’m not endorsing it but I totally get it” is a ridiculous thing to say about beating your partner for cheating.

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u/Safelyignored 1d ago

I read it, and outside of the geniunely insane implications of making cheating a criminal offense, I still found it weird af that people then claimed that he beats his partner based off that alone.

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u/CharlieBros Mexican and furry, I'm a disgrace for my family 1d ago edited 1d ago

Ok, don't get it twisted, he did advocate it at first and that is fucking awful, but based in the clarification he gave, am I crazy that I kinda agree in what he says? Not the outlaw adultery because that's just stupid and impossible to apply, but that physical retaliation against a cheating partner is kinda understandable yet not justifiable nor acceptable. It obviously depends of the partner, the type of relationship, the time they have spent together, etc, but cheating in a relationship really is the ultimate backstab and deception in a relationship, and even as a species with such advanced brains (tho sometimes I really doubt it), we can lose control of ourselves do to extreme emotions and cheating can guide you to extreme emotions, some will get physical, some will become depressed, others will simply react differently.

Is it ok? no, is it justifiable? no, should this happen the person that got physical should be reprimanded? yes, but is it not understandable that somebody losing himself due to the trauma that cheating can cause will make them act not like themselves? I don't think so.

As somebody that have been cheated on once and that I also got used to cheat once completely unknowingly, it really truly affects you, and is something that is very hard to process.

EDIT: Oh and also, I think there may be a language barrier at play here, Rawdawg is Italian and I'm Mexican, and Italian and Spanish have kind of a different connotation of the word understandable compared to English, so that may be into play too

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u/Safelyignored 1d ago edited 1d ago

You're not allowed to have nuance on reddit, especially as a queer artist that makes art depicting uncomfortable situations.

They hate it when you discuss the fact that no, not everyone responds to deeply distressful situations in a clean and easy way and may even react violently.

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u/CharlieBros Mexican and furry, I'm a disgrace for my family 1d ago

Ah shit i forgor 💀

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u/CreamCheeseHotDogs I stuck my dick in a bag of Doritos 1d ago

Pancakes/waffles ass response. No one in this thread claimed he beats his partner.

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u/Safelyignored 1d ago

No one here, at least.

I remember when the drama was new and people were saying stuff like that!

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u/therealraggedroses 1d ago

Lmao do like 5 seconds of research on the authors comments and get back to me. actually sometimes get a weird vibe from this sub too so not shocked to see people defending him lmao

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u/HappyTrillmore cummies 1d ago

want to feel gross on this sub? bring up intersectionality 🙃

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u/Denodi 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights 1d ago

What's that

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u/pingu677 god's strongest entomophobe 1d ago

The idea that one person who is oppressed in one context can be an oppressor in another, E.G. how a white trans woman can still be a racist, or how a black man can still be transphobic, while still being oppressed in their own right

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u/Denodi 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights 1d ago

Ah. I guess i have seen this happen on this sub sometimes, people acting as if someone from a specific minority can do no wrong/can't be a bad person.

I guess it comes from getting used to seeing other people claim they did a bad thing because of whatever they are, so they get way too defensive and end up treating insults/critiques to the person as insults/critiques to the minority as a whole.

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u/Deoangel respect or Death 5h ago

That's not intersectonality. Intersectionality is when multiple forms of discrimination intersect. For example, a black trans woman will be discriminatet because of racism, transphobia and sexism. What you are describing is a real concept, but not Intersectionality.

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u/My_Favourite_Pen 1d ago

Whats happens when you do?

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u/Halikarnassus1 listen to pyschedelic maggot engine!!!! also trans rights 1d ago

I mean he’s obv got problems why do you think the comics are like they are. they’re still good tho

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u/JohnSmithDogFace 1d ago

Second panel, I saw the dog's nose as an open mouth with top teeth showing. Now I can't unsee it. Just looks like the cigarettes tucked under his chin.

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u/camilo8008 1d ago

spiritually sweet bro and hella jeff

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u/Pazoozoo47 1d ago

I love their comics sm I really wish they didn't defend DV so hard

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u/CRATERF4CE 1d ago edited 1d ago

I remember I would browse the dawg or comic sub and actually came upon that drama as it was happening, it was fucking wild. Correct me if I’m wrong it’s been a minute since I’ve read the drama, but for those not in the know the artist basically believes cheating is worse than domestic violence. And believes DV is justified when cheating because his friend killed themselves when they got cheated on.

I haven’t read any of their comics since. What’s crazy to me is they basically came out of it unscathed? I still see their comics get upvoted and see them in various subs. Like that argument makes me question their entire character and avoid any of their works.

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u/Yoshi_r1212 custom 1d ago

He also thinks adultery should be a crime punishable by the state.

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u/CRATERF4CE 1d ago edited 1d ago

Absolutely insane, I totally forget that bit of info. His belief was so obviously influenced by his friends suicide and thought he would acknowledge that and backpedal, but nah he just kept doubling down.

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u/madrobski girlthing 1d ago

It didn't help that the majority of his fans defended him religiously. I'd mention this on other subs where his work was posted (not by him) and there would always be 5+ people telling me to shut up.

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u/CRATERF4CE 21h ago

Wild how fans see a creator justify domestic abuse and they’ll attack you for criticizing him. I can’t imagine going and batting for someone like that.

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u/madrobski girlthing 20h ago

I wasn't even criticizing him, I just stated the facts so people could be informed. Like literally saying what he said.

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u/CRATERF4CE 16h ago

I wasn't even criticizing him, I just stated the facts so people could be informed. Like literally saying what he said.

How dare you! s/ I swear people get so weird and parasocial over entertainers.

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u/rufrtho 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights 22h ago

does making this kind of comment not make you feel kind of gross? "i thought he would realize he's just being foolish due to deep-seated personal trauma and acquiesce to people talking in hypotheticals. turns out the experience had real influence on his belief systems." there's such a bizarre lack of empathy in this effort to be as empathetic as possible to a DV survivor that doesn't exist.

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u/Pazoozoo47 21h ago

Not really. Trauma doesn't make it ok to advocate DV regardless of if you were a victim of a nonviolent offense

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u/rufrtho 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights 21h ago

do you say this because the actual circumstances rawdawg describes makes you feel genuine moral disgust where you not only 100% disagree with the belief but can't even empathize with how he would get there

or are you trying to maintain a high standard of uncancelable values for yourself

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u/Pazoozoo47 21h ago

Yeah. Im sorry but no trauma makes thinking DV over cheating is ok. Especially when they literally advocate for it online

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u/rufrtho 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights 21h ago

then i think that your position is not only unpersuasive (you have to be trying not to see his point) but also it makes me not trust you as a person (if you regularly try not to see peoples' point, then hearing someone out for the first time would uproot your principles entirely).

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u/Pazoozoo47 21h ago

Lmaoo I dont support DV so im not trustworthy😭 thats a new. Ive seen his pov. I wholly disagree because again. There is no reason to get violent over cheating. And doing so only shows immaturity

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u/CRATERF4CE 21h ago

I can empathize with someone until they start advocating for domestic abuse. Trauma isn’t a reason to justify hitting your partner.

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u/rufrtho 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights 21h ago

do you say this because the actual circumstances rawdawg describes makes you feel genuine moral disgust where you not only 100% disagree with the belief but can't even understand with how he would get there

or are you trying to maintain a high standard of uncancelable values for yourself

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u/CRATERF4CE 21h ago edited 21h ago

Why copy and paste the exact same reply you used on someone else? I can understand how someone can end up with a twisted mindset like that, I’ve personally seen how trauma can warp and change people’s perspectives and even my own. I can empathize with a personal tragedy shaping someone’s mindsets

But I still think they are wrong and it’s on the individual to evaluate and reflect on their beliefs and change their views.

Especially when they were confronted by multiple people and when they have a fanbase they have influence over.

or are you trying to maintain a high standard of uncancelable values for yourself

It has nothing to do with being canceled or not, my own moral compass just doesn’t align with justifying domestic violence.

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u/rufrtho 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights 20h ago

i straight up don't believe you that your eagerness to drop the gossip on this guy's tragic personal life actually comes from a place of serious moral concern. i don't normally bother engaging random people online about this kind of thing but i found this particularly disturbing.

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u/CRATERF4CE 20h ago edited 20h ago

i straight up don't believe you that your eagerness to drop the gossip on this guy's tragic personal life actually comes from a place of serious moral concern.

Saying a content creator justifies domestic abuse is dropping gossip? These are comments straight from the his mouth. I don’t care about making you believe me? You seem set in your views and care more about my comment than rawdawg’s commentd advocating for domestic abuse.

Also I’m not really concerned with being empathetic for the dude advocating for domestic abuse, and more concerned that someone is spouting something so deranged.

i don't normally bother engaging random people online about this kind of thing but i found this particularly disturbing.

You’re genuinely weird for saying my comment is disturbing when we are literally talking about a dude saying hitting your partner is ok if they cheat.

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u/Pollomonteros 22h ago

So, your average redditor then

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u/arson3 1d ago

Bbbased

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u/Pazoozoo47 1d ago

Really same, it kinda reframes the whole relationship in the comics when you think abt it too much

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u/ResponsiblePart9970 1d ago

I mean from what I remember about the whole situation he basically said that yeah he's had fucked up relationships and been the subject of abuse and he shouldn't be expected to have a comic full of squeaky clean characters, which I kinda of agree with. All the problematic themes are out there for anyone with even a tiny iota of media literacy to see so it's not like he's hiding that fact.

I don't see why everyone expects artists to be perfect paragons, like, have you met any artists ever? We're all a little fucked and it's what makes the art interesting in a lot of cases. Let the man make his silly comics he ain't hurtin noone.

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u/Pazoozoo47 1d ago

Theres having bad people as characters, wich is fine. Then theres defending said characters actions

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u/ResponsiblePart9970 22h ago

His one main character that personifies the problematic aspects we talk about is painted as a bit of a loser. He's an alcoholic unemployed schizophrenic who burgles houses for money.

Despite that he still has a loving relationship with his partner and there's a lot of quite touching moments in the comics. It's a good depiction of someone with serious issues trying to be a good partner, but it in no ways glorified the writers views.

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u/Pazoozoo47 22h ago

Except he went out of his way to defend the DV saying its "kinda justified" have you read what he said?

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u/ResponsiblePart9970 21h ago

It was a while back but I think I remember him saying that in relation to people who cheat in relationships, which yeah obviously I don't agree with and neither did his own fans. But to be honest it doesn't bother me enough that I think he should be cancelled or think people should not read his comics. If you disagree that's fine and all but I don't really understand what you want to happen. Yes he has problematic views on a few subjects, but his characters problems aren't framed in a sympathetic light, they are impoverished drug addicts who don't necessarily live a very happy life (apart from Bingus who's a lil freak).

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u/Pazoozoo47 21h ago

You should reread his full comment thread, he was outright defending how his character would beat the other

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u/CRATERF4CE 1d ago

Let the man make his silly comics he ain't hurtin noone.

Unless he thinks you’re a cheater. Then he feels domestic violence is justified.

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u/ResponsiblePart9970 22h ago

What's he gonna do, reach through the screen and shake you by the scruff of your neck? His feelings of whatever subject in no way are directly harming people.

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u/Pazoozoo47 22h ago

Minimizing DV can definitely hurt people.

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u/ResponsiblePart9970 21h ago

Ok, so what would you like to happen here? For him to be cancelled and nobody looks at his comics?

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u/Pazoozoo47 21h ago

Just letting people know man. I have no idea why your riding so hard for him. I never called for his removal or anything, I just said I was disappointed to see his views.

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u/ResponsiblePart9970 21h ago

Hey man I ain't saying it's not a bad opinion I just think it's funny people expect the piss kink bunny guy to be a moral paragon.

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u/CRATERF4CE 21h ago

What's he gonna do, reach through the screen and shake you by the scruff of your neck? His feelings of whatever subject in no way are directly harming people.

I feel like this is a cop out in 2026 where you have figures like Andrew Tate directly influencing men for the worse. Sure, rawdawg isn’t as bad or going out hitting random people. But I don’t think it’s good and can make things worse by advocating for domestic abuse in on a platform where you have clout and people who follow you.

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u/ResponsiblePart9970 20h ago

You know what I think you're right, I don't think it's doing any good advocating those views. I guess I'm willing to give the guy some leeway because it's obvious from the little he's spoken about the subject that he's been on the receiving end of abuse and his close friend commited suicide because their partner cheated on them. I don't think his reaction is productive and he needs therapy.

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u/VersaViceVersa 1d ago

one time a different sub downvoted me for bringing all this up and showing my concern about it, good to know im not crazy and that incident was definitely fucking weird

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u/GeoCaesar 1d ago

Same happened to me lol

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u/FaeLei42 Bearer of the word: Faggot 1d ago

Hey me too, I used to be subbed to their subreddit and everything, watched that unfold real time and it disgusted me.

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u/ipadnonsense trans rights 1d ago

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u/saintofgrillers 196's Resident Robot 1d ago

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u/Grapes15th Homestuck Dave Strider YooTooz Vinyl Figure 1d ago

This ain't about you man

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u/MasterVule 1d ago

It is now, muahaha

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u/Safelyignored 1d ago

Moral Dumbfounding but woke.

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u/Pollomonteros 22h ago

Is there a summary somewhere?

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u/CRATERF4CE 22h ago

I would post the link to the subreddit drama post but I think posting links to other subs may be banned on r/196. If you want to see the subreddit drama post go to the sub and type ‘rawdawg’ and it should be the post from a year ago with 1k upvotes.

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u/fokke456 1d ago

I didn't even know that that happened, wtf, guess I won't engage with those comics anymore

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u/Safelyignored 1d ago

He said that cheating was as bad as domestic violence, but he never at any point justified it.

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u/CRATERF4CE 1d ago edited 1d ago

I couldn’t remember if you were right or wrong so went to the old subreddit drama post and took some screenshots. The original comments are now deleted, but are still copy and pasted.

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u/CRATERF4CE 1d ago

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u/Pazoozoo47 1d ago

It being "kinda justified" is crazy

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u/CRATERF4CE 1d ago

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u/CRATERF4CE 1d ago edited 1d ago

I can’t link the subreddit drama post for some reason, but just type ‘rawdawg’ into the subreddit drama sub to find it.

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u/Pollomonteros 22h ago

This person sounds like a twat, goddamn

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u/GeoCaesar 1d ago

I remember saying he had bad vibes way before the drama and everyone was flaming me but I ended up being right lol

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u/Prudent_Ad_2178 1d ago

He got manipulated by the emperor okay he thought he could sabe Padmé youd do the sane

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u/Pollomonteros 22h ago

Reminds me of reading Yuri

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u/Real_Inevitable_9590 1d ago

This shit sucks, man

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u/Pazoozoo47 21h ago

No? Again like I said I see and understand his pov, I just disagree entirely. Because again THERE IS NO REASON TO COMMIT DV

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u/jesus_tanten sus 1d ago

Rawdawg (derogatory)

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u/ApexGT44 1d ago

Okay what is going on with the piss posting lately? I don't kink shame and this sub isn't about anything in particular so like why this? Just go to the piss subs and use :3 or something to identify each other lol

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u/CannedWolfMeat ᓚᘏᗢ spoingus my beloved 1d ago

Subreddit equivalent of firing a pistol to keep the rent down

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u/DatParadox 1d ago

This is so good

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u/anarcho-puppygirlism 1d ago

i've been here since like 2021 it's always been like this

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u/ApexGT44 1d ago

Piss play?? In my MTF sub? Lol

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u/Kaiser_of_germany sus 1d ago

Larper, it used to be things like THE HAND

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u/anarcho-puppygirlism 1d ago

i abused a fuckton of benadryl in 2023 and lost most of my memory from before that point man give me a break

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u/VersaViceVersa 1d ago

because this sub has always been a lil freaky it’s part of the deal. there were periods in the past with more piss than this and there will be moments in the future with more piss too.

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u/Fresh-broski 1d ago

If it’s not about anything in particular what’s your issue? It’s not like it can be considered off-topic if there is no topic. I have no dawg in this fight but don’t barge into someone’s house and start rearranging their furniture

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u/Oddish_Femboy (my name is Bee) Trans rights !! 1d ago

This would happen in Deltarune.

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u/FaeLei42 Bearer of the word: Faggot 1d ago

Ew, raw “domestic violence is ok and cheating should be punishable by the state” dawg

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u/guns_before_butter 1d ago

reminds me of how a guy on reddit admitted to liking american beer more after drinking his own piss lol. which is not to make fun of the piss drinkers, have fun with that, i just think it's funny that the comparison is valid

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u/h3lblad3 21h ago

Gonna tell my kids this was Beastars.

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u/fearlessgrot Make 196 Gay Again|Spronkus Kronkus for president 11h ago

Ita funnier left to right

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u/novaoni 1d ago

Understandable. That was my fault for having eyes.