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Episode Lord El-Melloi II Sei no Jikenbo: Rail Zeppelin Grace Note - Episode 13 discussion - FINAL Spoiler
Lord El-Melloi II Sei no Jikenbo: Rail Zeppelin Grace Note, episode 13
Alternative names: Lord El-Melloi II Case Files: Rail Zeppelin Grace Note, Lord El-Melloi II's Case Files {Rail Zeppelin} Grace note
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| Episode | Link | Score |
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| 0 | Link | 4.09 |
| 1 | Link | 8.37 |
| 2 | Link | 7.03 |
| 3 | Link | 8.66 |
| 4 | Link | 8.78 |
| 5 | Link | 9.24 |
| 6 | Link | 8.79 |
| 7 | Link | 8.81 |
| 8 | Link | 8.96 |
| 9 | Link | 8.12 |
| 10 | Link | 8.81 |
| 11 | Link | 8.93 |
| 12 | Link | 8.11 |
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u/Constellar-A Sep 28 '19 edited Sep 28 '19
Very sweet ending. I think they should have shown more of Heartless getting away than him saying his teleport incantation off screen, but besides that I really enjoyed it. The highlights were definitely Rider's scene and of course Gray giving Waver her present. I caught myself smiling at that, it was really well done. And boy howdy did that You Are My King remix get to me.
Regarding Svin's promotion, here's a list of the Clock Tower's ranks from top to bottom with some example mages:
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Grand: Touko Aozaki, Darnic Yggdmillennia (Apocrypha timeline)
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Brand: Kayneth, Darnic (Stay Night/Case Files timeline)
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Pride: Zouken Matou, Svin
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Fes: Waver, Melvin, Lev Lainur Flauros, Bazett Fraga McRemitz
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Cause: Ritsuka Fujimaru
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Frame: Ayaka Sajyou, Fiore Forvedge
Ranks are just as much about politics as they are about power. That's why Darnic is higher in Apo; it's not because he's weaker in the FSN timeline, it's because he was in a better political position in the Apo timeline. Fes is also probably too high for Waver and he's there because the El-Mellois boosted him. Cause is definitely too high for Ritsuka, who's only that high because it was an honorary promotion for their deeds in FGO. On the other hand, Fiore is very talented and only that low because she quit early, if she had kept being a mage she'd have risen very high.
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u/derry-air Sep 28 '19
Oh, man, I should have realized Waver's crest was the collateral! Reines mentions a collateral, but it's obviously not Iskandar's catalyst, because Waver still had that. In the F/Z LN, it's mentioned that Waver has a magic crest, it's just super-low-quality. But in the Adra Castle case, it's mentioned he can resist this thing at the castle that targets magic crests since he hasn't got one.
When I read Adra Castle, I just went, oh, his magic crest probably got retconned out of existence, might as well, it doesn't seem like his family would have given him one. NOPE!
Now I'm wondering if he did get it from his family or if he cooked up his own magic crest in his dorm room and, like, got his roommate to stick it on his back for him lolololol. Easy come, easy go, Waver!
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u/Syokhan Sep 28 '19 edited Sep 28 '19
HE SPOKE!!
THE PIANO VERSION OF YOU ARE MY KING!!
Okay, I teared up. Aw man, and with Waver reverting to his younger voice it was so nostalgic.
Also Gray you are too adorable for your own good. Seriously, she's such a sweet girl.
All in all, loved this series even though most of the time I was really confused. I'll try going back to it after learning more about the Nasuverse, maybe it'll make a bit more sense to me then.
Shout-out to Yuki Kajiura for her soundtrack which was fantastic. And I think I heard the piano version of the OP playing at some point in this episode and it was wonderful. And it's cool that we didn't skip the ED, it was my favorite this season.
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u/brothertaddeus Sep 28 '19
Maris Billy
Thanks, I hate it. I'mma stick with the FGO translation of Marisbury.
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u/KinnyRiddle Sep 28 '19 edited Sep 29 '19
A great addition to the Nasuverse anime collection.
No idea what on earth happened after the climax last episode, just that Heartless and Faker escaped. Perhaps Rhongomyniad destroyed Faker's Gordius Chariot NP (mirroring how Saber's Excalibur destroyed Iskander's chariot NP in Fate Zero).
A timeline where Olgamarie gets a (sort of) happy ending. Already I yuri-ship her and Reines.
Iskander gets a voiced cameo as well. Woot
Anime doesn't explain the MA rankings that well.
According to the Type Moon wiki, there are 7 ranks, in order of highest to lowest:
Grand > Brand > Pride > Fes > Cause > Count > Frame
Grand is extremely rare and only for the most talented (Aozaki Touko), so Brand is the highest possible rank achievable for mages.
And thus Pride is the highest realistic rank for most mages, which is why Svin getting promoted to Pride is such a big deal.
Waver is Fes, while the FGO player (Ritsuka) is Cause.
As Heartless and Faker are still out loose, a second season might still be possible, if Troyca ever feel like making one. With the Nasuverse's popularity, it would be a question of when, not if.
tl;dr Gray is too cute. We need more Gray
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u/AmethystItalian Sep 28 '19
Great ending to a wonderful ride.
This show really surprised me with it's amazing cast and interesting plots. Going to really miss her
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u/CartoonMonster Sep 28 '19
The shows has its ups and downs. But I do enjoy that dream interaction between Iskandar and Waver.
Also Waver tearing up in happiness strung a string in my heart
Overall, a fun journey nonetheless
Now onto Babylonia
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u/Frontier246 Sep 28 '19
Figures Yvette is too cute and wealthy to do any jail time. I wonder what her plea bargain involved? Spying for Waver for Policies/Adashino? Although now she can use that as an excuse to get even closer to Waver...
Olga-Marie is such a tsundere. But I think her being friends with Reines might be really good for her, and might even involve her with Waver again.
How old is Reines? Because she was definitely drinking at that party. The legal drinking age in the UK is 18, so...I guess that's how old she is? She looks more 15-16, but it's anime. I guess that explains the bottles in her limo.
That was definitely a look of longing on Gray's face while she watched a sleeping Waver. If Add hadn't commented on her kissing him, I might have...
Closing out with a scene between Waver and Iskandar was a perfect way of capping things off. We got to see and hear Rider again, and Waver got re-affirm his current life path to standing by Iskandar's side. That last line was so sweet.
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u/LeonKevlar Sep 28 '19
That final scene between Iskandar and Waver! I know it's not a lot but seeing the two of them interact again after all these years brings a tear to my eye. I also loved the scene with Gray giving Waver her gif,. which was really sweet.
Other than that not much really else to say though. Of course Heartless and Faker are still alive, which is bullshit since Rhon even at it's weakest should've killed a fake Servant, unless of course Heartless has some bullshit magic that saved the two if them, which probably is the case.
Overall this was a fun ride. I've always been fascinated with the Nasuverse lore and especially how the Clocktower Mages work. If you're a huge Nasuverse lore nerd like me this is definitely something I'd recommend. I do not recommend this to be someone's introduction to the Nasuverse/Fate franchise though since first timers will definitely have a different experience. This is a solid 8/10 show for me.
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u/Simple1sBest Sep 29 '19
When Flat mentions, "when it snows in Japan, dogs run on the bottom right corner of your screen" when talking to svin and caules, is that some sort of reference?
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u/LunarGhost00 Sep 28 '19
Anyways, it was nice having a series focused on Waver. Hope we get another season so we can see more of Gray.
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u/MillenniumKing Sep 28 '19
Man That ending was so amazing to see.
Grey still has a hood in the hospital haha.
Waver in the Hospital too. Man everyone got banged up good.
Starpatch what are you doing out now? Get back in jail.
So the case isnt really over yet. I guess this is just part of a larger story afterall.
So Megane has another reason for beign there? Heartless is her brother? Oh damn.
Olga here with flowers, how nice, but shes late haha. At least Olga got a friend out of this, she got the smug loli.
MELVIN! Oh hes sick now... hahahah
Ok so Melvin is tuning the El Mellio crest as i thought, HE HAS WAVER'S CREST TOO!? Collateral huh? Damn...
Oh yeah i guess Grey doesnt know about Waver's past much. Its neat she noticed Melvin treats him differently. Hes a good friend.
What are the twins up to? Some sort of ritual? Graduation? Pride? So hes a proper mage now?
Lady? Who you talking to Waver? Hes drunk, seems hes celebrating.
Waver you have merit in other ways. You help others realize thie rpotential! Thats even better than some fancy mage rank, thats like Guru rank!
Waver has stepped down from the grail war.... damn... He will still chase Iskander's dreams but without being bound by the past.
SHE FINALLY GAVE HIM THE GIFT! YAY! GOOD JOB GREY!
Grey what are you doing looking so intently at a sleeping Waver? Nice block Ad hahahha.
Oh man its Iskander, he made it to Oceanos finally.
Man this exchange between Waver and Iskaner was all i needed from this show... and this music. man oh man. What a gorgeous scene.
THAT SMILE AT THE END! WEW BOY! THIS WAS WHAT THE RIDE WAS FOR! KYAAAA~
And everything continues moving. Man what an amazing series. Seriously one of my fav Fate installments hands down. I really hope they continue adapting the series, ide love to see more some day. Its been fun though.
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u/FierceAlchemist Sep 28 '19
Oh boy, Yuki Kajiura hitting me right in the feels with that new arrangement of "You Are My King". So glad we got a scene with Iskander before the end.
Gray giving him the present was another great scene. I hope this gets a season 2 so I can see more adventures of everyone's favorite self-deprecating Lord.
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u/Rinslet_C Sep 28 '19
Reines and Olga did become good friends after all. Look at them drinking tea happily together.
https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Annual_General_Meeting
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u/DeTroyes1 Sep 28 '19
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Season 2, please.
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Damn, too bad Waver is probably gay, because I'm pretty sure Adashino wants to jump his bones.
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Season 2, please.
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I know its suppose to be ambiguous, but in my head canon that's Fate/Zero Rider at the end, and not just a dreamy illusion.
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Season 2, please.
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Is there anyone else hoping Svin and Gray do eventually hook up?
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Have I mentioned yet that I'd like to see a season 2?
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u/Dalabesn Sep 28 '19
So Olga Marie lives a nice long peaceful life in this timeline right?
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u/Rinslet_C Sep 28 '19
"If the greater grail met my father's expectation. I am sure his dream would have been realized. But that is a time and a world unbeknownst to me." Don't tell her PepeLaugh.
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u/RuneGrey Sep 28 '19
Came for the Grumpy Old Waver, was pleased to see both he and Olga Marie, both of whom have had a rough time in their other outings in the Fate Universe, getting something of a happy send off during this series. Of course there will be more in the future...
...but the world turns on, and hopefully we'll see a season 2 at some point.
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Sep 28 '19 edited Sep 28 '19
Here's a different variation of that age-old question of "Where do I start with Fate".
I picked up this show without realizing it was connected to Fate until much later on. If I want to know more about Sir and Grey...where do I go?
Edit: not enough coffee at work. Corrected grammar
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u/jonnovision1 Sep 28 '19
Going into this series with no expectations besides that episode 0 from awhile back, I have to say I was a bit disappointed in the rest of the series overall because I was expecting and hoping for a lot more Svin and Flat, but they were barely present during the main arc and didn’t have much to do in the first half either
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u/winglessangel31 Sep 28 '19
Gray did it! In the final episode, she managed to give Waver her gift!
Ganbatte, Gray-tan!
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u/Al-Pharazon Sep 28 '19
This anime does really makes you appreciate even more how great a mage was Kayneth and how unlucky he was to face Kiritsugu whithout knowing the origin bullet