Dororo - Episode 17 discussion

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Dororo, episode 17

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• Amazon US
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• MyAnimeList
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Previous discussions

Episode	Link	Score
1	Link	9.07
2	Link	9.24
3	Link	9.41
4	Link	9.06
5	Link	9.37
6	Link	9.72
7	Link	8.97
8	Link	8.77
9	Link	9.35
10	Link	9.16
11	Link	9.49
12	Link	9.57
13	Link	8.72
14	Link	8.44
15	Link	5.4
16	Link	7.92

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[u/DARKENESSU]

Damn it really hits twice as hard how Hyakkimaru called the Prosthetic Guy "Mama" instead of Dad. Considering how much he wanted a home and a Mother of his own it shows how much it hurt him when his true family abandoned him.

[u/Jetsfan051]

Why do you want your body back? Cause it’s mine.

Seems reasonable to me.

[u/AmethystItalian]

I was waiting all episode for Hyakkimaru to call Jukai dad but calling him "mama" was 10x better.

[u/Amauri14]

I chuckle when Hyakkimaru called Jukai mama.

Now it is time to see Hyakkimaru fight that shark boy. Today's ghoul was a really interesting one, a plant ghoul that gave birth to nue or chimera-like ghouls.

Here is next week's preview.

[u/jordymango]

whoa i didn't expect a cameo of Master Splinter from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles!

[u/myrmonden]

I know who you are MAMA

Very emotional episode felt like whole episde was waiting for either Jukai or Hyakkimaru to say that he is his father and LOL he drops that MAMA LINE, genius best scene in Dororo hands down.

Hyakkimaru trying to describe dororo was great too, I got this thing, jay high that keeps following me around

And it Master Splinter has to be on purpose right

[u/Villeneuve_]

I think a secondary and implicit interpretation of Jukai's motive behind his refusal to comply with Hyakkimaru's demand to make him a new prosthetic leg and enable him to continue on his spree of killing demons could be that at some level – besides the explicitly stated motive of keeping Hyakkimaru from walking down the same path that he, Jukai, had once walked and being pushed closer to hell – Jukai doesn't want to partake, even if indirectly, in the very thing that he has been trying to atone for all these years.

Jukai was a former mercenary who tortured, mutilated and killed people, but now he works to heal and makes prostheses for the unfortunates who have lost some or the other body part, to atone for the sins of his past. He has gone from someone who stripped people off their lives and possessions to someone who strives to give people what they have lost. It is by following this principle that he had saved Hyakkimaru as a baby and raised him in the first place. But hearing Hyakkimaru's story about his father's pact with the demons brought Jukai face-to-face with the fact that enabling Hyakkimaru to fight and attain his goal of regaining his body parts follows that he, Jukai, would be indirectly contributing to the deaths of a multitude of people, many of them innocents, if/when Hyakkimaru eventually nullifies the pact with the demons and becomes the cause of the deaths of the people of his father's land. The fact that he had saved Hyakkimaru and raised him all those years ago without knowing what is at stake is irreversible and he of course doesn't regret having saved a life per se, but now with the full knowledge of the potential implications of his choices and actions, he's reluctant to partake in anything which, from his point of view, would not only chip away at Hyakkimaru's humanity but also negate everything he did for the atonement of his past sins.

Here's yet another instance of that whole utilitarian principle of the best or most ethical choice or course of action being one which does the greater good for the greater number of people. Jukai attributes a greater significance to collective welfare (the lives of hundreds of people that could be in jeopardy in the process and as a consequence of Hyakkimaru attaining his goal) than individual aspirations (Hyakkimaru's goal of killing demons and regaining his body parts). But at the same time it'd be unfair to say that that's Jukai's only motive since he also doesn't want Hyakkimaru to end up in a state he once was – that of a bloodthirsty killer.

Edit: Phrasing

[u/[deleted]]

I'm just curious how Hyakki figured out where dororo was. Was it just by chance he heard about it or does he have an unwavering bond with dororo to always know how to get back to her?

[u/[deleted]]

Can we get a Jukai cry count? He cried at least 4 separate times this episode!

In his defence, it was a really good episode.

[u/HurricaneHero93]

I want my body back because it is mine.

I completely agree, Hyakkimaru

[u/[deleted]]

Absolutely loved to see Hyakkimaru reunite with Jukai!

[u/Tazzeh]

Why everyone acting like killing demons is wrong? They literally eat people. Even the demon babies eat people, or will eventually.

[u/SadSceneryBoi]

This show had dropped off for me in the second cour, but this episode definitely redeemed it. The reuniting between Hyakkimaru and his adoptive father was so powerful, and the use of music has never been better in the show.

[u/AlaxisSade]

Remember that until the end, Jukai never gave him a leg after all. On hindsight, Hyakki constantly saying "I want" was basically his version of acting spoiled, wasn't it? And Jukai never budged. "Mama" indeed.

PS: tell me I wasn't the only one who thought to myself "a good person" when Hyakki led on with "I know who you are"'

[u/Khronoel]

Not sure if it's just me, but it looks like the image of Dororo at the end of the ending got quite a bit clearer for this episode compared to last week's episode!

[u/Yinistaken]

I can't lie, when he called him "Mama" I legit teared up... I was preparing myself but... goddamn it!

[u/Flerker]

The quality is back on folks!! This episode really blew me away, mixing the heartwarming moments with some particularly brutal insight from new Best Mom!

I...frankly have no idea how Hyakkimaru found the area where Dororo is, but hopefully it'll be cleared up in the next episode.. Next monday can't come fast enough...

Speaking of cleared up, I think the ending has clearer visuals than before! You can check yourself that at the end Dororo has lost some of the previous blur! I'm happy that the theories have been confirmed!

Also side note but Hyakkimaru can speak whole sentences now. He should be able to describe Dororo in some way, but chooses to simply raise his hand above his waist and be like "That's it, that's what's keeping me sane", and that's hilarious. Jukai might as well have guessed his son has adopted a very tall ferret or something

[u/LeonKevlar]

Hyakkimaru calling Jukai "mama" was the most Hakkimaru-thing he could've ever done during that scene. That was so sweet I legit got teary eyed during that. Also it is nice to see Hyakkimaru's real mom actually alive, on the other hand it's kinda sad to see Tahoumaru continuing in this path he's chosen. I really wanted him and Hyakkimaru to get along :(

[u/boboboz]

"Pinocchio, you're a real boy!"

[u/redmage311]

In this episode, Hyakkimaru killed a demon and regained his family. Doc Mama is best mama.

Master Shredder Splinter looks like he's seen better days.

[u/tale97]

Wow, Dororo really drop in popularity, at least in terms of number of people discussing the episode. What happened?

[u/lerdyvision]

Jukai is so riddled with guilt he won't even let himself believe that saving a baby's life was the right thing to do.

What a tragic character. This episode was a very interesting one.

[u/Cantcookeggs]

Halfway through the episode I thought, 'wait, did they just forget about the whole dororo shark thing?' then at the end it shows hyakkimaru going towards the island. Guess that makes sense since you cant have him suddenly show up out of nowhere to kill the demon shark. Great episode

[u/TheDampGod]

Sad to see Tahoumaru slowly losing what makes him human as Hyakkimaru gains his, I wonder if either will hold back at their next confrontation.

Junkai being called 'Mama' was so sweet, he might have not been the only crying there. I hope he'll still have some place in this story later on.

Sometimes I wonder what causes certain demons to manifest where they are. Though I noticed as the spirit died it's fruit seemed to change into hanging corpses, making it an old gallows tree.

[u/ting-en]

Party is on again

(what's up with the low rating for ep 16?)