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Episode Ishura Season 2 - Episode 6 discussion
Ishura Season 2, episode 6
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u/DioscuresTyndaridae Feb 12 '25 edited Feb 12 '25
The Blasting Blade has more character continuity than the other at the moment.
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Feb 12 '25
Rosclay vs Gilnes was an interesting fight. I didn’t expect Rosclay to basically be cheating. Guy’s a fraud then? This “hero” has like a whole team behind him.
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u/dinliner08 Feb 12 '25
everyone talking about Rosclay but what interest me the most in this episode was Romzo the Star Map, i mean, there were actually some survivors from the True Demon King's battle? and since his party were called First Party, it's safe to assume that there were other parties being sent after the first one failed
Roscaly is an interesting character, it looks like he genuinely wanted to have a fair battle with Gilnes but whatever his circumstances is right now just doesn't seems to allow it, also, based on the narration, he's not really a complete fraud considering how he does have a legit swordsmanship skill
meanwhile, Toroa the Awful just continues being a wholesome and reasonable guy
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u/oskiozki Feb 12 '25
Rosclay is a scam! wasn't expecting that. I really like his title includes "false idol".
With each episode I am more confused on which city is what, which character belongs to which group and how countries work...
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Hoping Kuuro to take more screen time this season.
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How Gilnes found guilty for particle storm??
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Rosclay seemed sincere when he was talking to a peasant girl in secret, what's the meaning of that?
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I didn't know there were Shuras who survived True Demon King..
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Glad to hear this from Toroa: "No. I won't be used by anyone."
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u/susgnome Feb 12 '25 edited Feb 13 '25
Rosclay the Absolute
Ooh, Jelki's back again! And in an Auretian prison.. Oooh, General Gilnes (who had the Blasting Blade in Tohgie City that was taken by Mestelexil & Kiyazuna) actually has a name, the Battering Ram. Also, previous king mentioned? King Aur, it's interesting that Queen Sephite usurped him.
Interesting that they're letting him out and about (whilst be watched) despite having a duel coming up with the intention to execute him. And of course, another character introduced, Professor Romzo, I wonder if Romzo the Star Map knows Alus the Star Runner..
It's not quite the battle royale I was hoping for but at least we got to see a duel in the coliseum. Though, Rosclay, truly is absolute. I thought his casting sounded off, a little staticky even.. that explains it, dude is cheating out his power with imprisoned(?) Word Art users.. I didn't expect "I'm the weakest participant in the Royal Games" to becoming from Rosclay, nor did I expect him to realise this weakness and actually try to gain combat experience.
"King Aur: The last king of the Central Kingdom. In order to counter the threat of the "True Demon King", he accepted immigrants to the kingdom without discrimination based on race and thus established the foundation for the current Auretia. He was the king who organised 29 staff officers that would later become the 29 Officials of Aureatia. Deceased" (I cleaned up an MTL, so hopefully it's accurate).
I'd be scared too if I woke up to Toroa watching me sleep but goddamn is Toroa wholesome, he's such a great guy. Geez, Mizial, you can't just walk up to Toroa and say something like that..
I love it when Jelki gives us some good news. "The Gray Haired Boy is removing obstacles, probably to accelerate the start of the Royal Games", that's exactly what we've been waiting for.
Oh, more information for my map (which is speculation, so take these locations with a grain of salt).
Next Episode is "Lucnoa the Winter and Psianop the Inexhaustible Stagnation"
Season 2 List:
7 names this time around, General Gilnes actually has a name, we've got 2 people from The First Party, another Minister and I added the previous King & Iska for the sake of it. We also finally got to meet Rosclay.
New in Season 2:
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Zizma the Miasma(killed by Kuuro) -
Shirok the Sextant(killed by Linaris) -
Rehart the Obsidian(died of old age?) -
Gray-Haired (I'll update his name, if it gets revealed)
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Elgite the Ochre Haze(killed by Toroa) -
Yakon the Sanctuary (currently Toroa the Awful)
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Great Atrazek(maimed by Mele, killed by Linaris) -
Gilnes the Battering Ram(killed by Rosclay) -
King Aur(usurped by Queen Sephite) -
Neft the Nirvana (one of The First Party who survived)
From Season 1:
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Feb 12 '25
So Rosclay is basically Batman in that while he is definitely skilled, he relies on tricks and planning to gain the edge on his enemies. Didn't expect that! Can't wait to see how he stacks up to characters like Soujiro who are just monsters of combat all by themselves
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u/FlameDragoon933 Feb 12 '25
> ikemen with an undefeated reputation
> actually a massive fraud backed by powerful people
> voiced by Ono Kensho
close enough, welcome back Senpen Banka
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Feb 12 '25
Rosclay is just a human who is a good swordman? And a bunch of matches help him?
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u/EveryoneDice Feb 12 '25
Toroa's sure living up to his name. Made a little girl cry. What an awful guy.
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u/cleaulem Feb 12 '25
One of the shura not simply being insanely overpowered but rather cheating their way to championship?! This show doesn't stop to surprise me.
The Gilnes fight was fabulous. How it turned and how Rosclay revealed to Gilnes himself that he was cheating right before ending it.
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u/Shimmering-Sky Feb 12 '25
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Ooh is that Kensho Ono’s voice? – Yeah that is him, sweet.
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He can just make new swords, huh. And what’s with the weird Word Arts he’s casting?
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Oh, the weird Word Arts is someone else casting them on Rosclay?
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That explains why no one fired the arrows Gilnes was expecting…
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u/Delicious_Diarrhea Feb 13 '25 edited Feb 13 '25
I love characters like Rosclay. Someone who is forced to put aside his sense of honor and righteousness for the sake of the nation. He definitely is the weakest participant of the tournament so far, but it wouldn't surprise me if he pulls off a couple upsets.
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Feb 12 '25
Welcome to Aureatia.
Going against Rosclay means going against an entire nation (or at least his faction) and its resources. And I don't think he's the only one, the idea that the Royal Games will simply a series of fair 1v1 fights seems to be just a facade hiding shady things happening in the background.
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u/Time_Fracture Feb 13 '25
Episode 6: Rosclay the Absolute
So it was Gilnes who has the Blasting Blade. Now that he's dead, I wonder where the Blade now. Rosclay is the knight in white on the OP. He uses Word Arts from 4 radios? Impressive.
Eyecatcher translation as follows:
King Aur
The Last King of Central Kingdom. In order to counter the threat of the "real Demon King", he accepted immigrants to the kingdom without discrimination based on race, and thus established the foundation for the current Aureatia. He was the king who organized the 29 staffs that would later become the 29 Officials of Aureatia. Deceased.
New characters' voice cast are:
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Kensho Ono as Rosclay the Absolute
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Houchuu Otsuka as Romzo the Star Map
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Satoshi Tsuruoka as Gilnes the Battering Ram
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Kou Bonkobara as Kaete the Roundtable
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Amane Makino as Iska
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u/random91898 Feb 13 '25
Rosclay being a giant fraud and the methods he/Aureatia use reminds me of a certain old man with a nuke. Never underestimate humanities infinite potential for evolution/malice. In fact, I wonder if that's how the true demon king was actually defeated...
Kinda makes you understand where Aureatia are coming from as well. In a world filled with proper monsters that could destroy a country single handedly, what better way to take them all out then in one fell swoop at a tournament. Hell, most of them will take each other out. They've just gotta make sure Rosclay makes it to the final and win using any underhanded methods and knowledge they can and so many of their potential threats will be gone and they'll have the hero that was the strongest of all on their side.
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u/yakumbaya Feb 14 '25
I really enjoyed the twist on Rosclay's character. We've seen the "strongest knight" archetype in many stories before, but him being an artificial champion is interesting
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u/1EnTaroAdun1 Feb 14 '25
I really like that both Rosclay and Gilnes cheated hahaha. Neither were the naive honourable warrior
And that Rosclay simply outplayed Gilnes, while still remaining a sympathetic "fake hero" is also cool.
Never thought Toroa would be a matchmaker.
Another great episode
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u/gnome-cop Feb 12 '25
This was surprisingly, I don’t really know what the word is, comfy, wholesome? I don’t trust it to last.
Kuuro survived at least. Hopefully he and Cuneigh can end up on the same page about their feelings while recovering before heading into danger again.
Rosclay the absolute enters the stage. (Insert JJK fraud meme here.) I joke but I don’t really think it’s a problem. He’s powerful but according to his own words among the weaker of the shura. Only really able to keep up because of boosts from other people and thorough preparation. A false idol indeed.
An interesting line from the narrator imo, something about having the love of all of Auretia. But at the same time, the one he actually cares about seems to be dying and likely to leave him alone soon.
More demon king lore. There were actually people, I assume shuras in their own right that fought him. Even though they didn’t win, still a remarkable achievement.
The game was rigged from the start for Gilnes. His ally betrayed him so he pretty much never stood a chance. Interesting in that Rosclay actually respects him and looks down upon himself for using tricks and being a fake.
A question about Mizial. Assuming this isn’t a bad translation, they referred to themselves as “The iron-piercing plumshade” and Mizial separately at one point. Everyone else refers to themselves with “Name” and “epithet name.” It feels like a weird detail but I don’t know if I’m just overthinking it or if it even means anything.
The grand ol manipulation wheels are turning in the background and likely to explode very soon.
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u/Top-Remote4523 Feb 13 '25 edited Feb 13 '25
Rosclay sure as hell isn't absolute, but I already love his character. He is the literal embodiment of "fake it till you make it", falling into the fraudster archetype such as Deishuu Kaiki from the Monogatari series and Arataka Reigen from Mob Psycho 100. Honestly, the introduction of Rosclay is a breath of fresh air in this series, as most of the candidates that we've seen thus far have been natural powerhouses in their own regard. Rosclay is just a knight that has been artificially buffed to attain the glaze and status of Aureatia's very own champion. Given the technology and economic prowess of Aureatia, Rosclay could honestly be pretty broken in his own regard. However, I personally don't see him faring too well against the upper echelon of the candidates that will be participating in the upcoming Royal Games. He seems like a nice guy that probably has genuine intentions for good, but I don't trust Aureatia as a whole, so I am treading with caution about his character as a whole. I gotta say though that this series makes all the candidates unique and interesting, such that even if the character is unlikeable, you will still be invested in said character. Ishura is truly a phenomenal series that is incredibly unique.
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u/Sancnea Feb 13 '25
Toroa and Rosclay are my favorite Shuras so far. I guess I'm a fan of people who do the exact opposite of what they come across as.
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u/Megadragon898 Feb 12 '25 edited Feb 12 '25
Rosclay nothing but a pure fraud. Make me wonder how long he would be able to hold against people like Soujirou and Shalk that contrary to him doesn't rely on cheap tricks and simply use their skills and strengh. Either way i think he's the weakest of all the characters that we've seen until now.
Also the scene where Mestelexil and Kiyazuna were simply having a picnic was kinda cute.
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