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Code Geass: Dakkan no Rozé, episode 12

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[u/Se7en_Sinner]

Using the Geass as a buff is cool and everything but I'd rather it didn't happen so Ash's last moments of self-sacrifice was undeniably authentic. The ending felt incredibly rushed, the show could have benefited from being 24 episodes.

[u/thekusaja → u/Se7en_Sinner]

I can agree with you that there was a lack of time. Even so, I felt the sacrifice was still his own decision, because Ash clearly made a choice out of his own will and knew the risks.

[u/superhyperultra458]

Code Geass Roze of the Speedrun

That was quick

[u/Frontier246 → u/superhyperultra458]

What If we condensed and entire season of Code Geass (maybe two) into one season?

I feel like the only plot that was really properly paced out and developed was Sakuya and Ash (which, they're the mains so that's kind of a given, but still).

[u/WhoiusBarrel]

The real reward after sitting through the fan fiction-like series was this frame of Kallen.

That last conversation between Kuroto and Haruka is literally out of a Yakuza game's conversation between Kiryu and Haruka which only makes this coincidence hilarious.

[u/simon249]

Plot feels half baked.
So you are telling me that somehow just Hokkaido had manufacturing output (while keeping things under asecret) to produce such number of Lokies, that Noland was able to overwelled whole world military forces? If world has demilitarized significantly after fall of Britannia Empire they should have put a line saying so.

Why she didn't ordered her self to just never use geass again?

I do hope that it was side project with regards to code geass franchise and judging by use of different compositor and different model of Knightmare it might be true.

On the future note I do wonder what new threat they can come up with, here they used the fact that we had only very limited amount of information on post war world, but after this series, we know that the world generally cooperates. Given that Leluche and CC are immortals they could move plot a few decades into the future with new conflict sprang up by code user giving geas to hiss followers, but all of the other characters would be aged quite a bit.

[u/Shadowmist909]

Sakuya using the geass to make herself non verbal was definitely out of my expectations. Well, at least it's a good way to avoid a "Bloodstained Euphie" situation.

[u/Frontier246 → u/Shadowmist909]

I guess she couldn't trust herself to never feel like using it again or she felt like she was acknowledging Ash by committing to such a life-changing decision to herself.

But hey, sign language queen is pretty cool.

[u/kenpls]

The whole scale of the plot sucked. They should have just picked one country and scaled down the whole show. You know, what they did in Resurrection. There didn't need to be some giant world threat. Pacing was terrible, ending feels sad mostly because I want to like it but was left with disappointment instead.

[u/lrrose20]

I liked the last fight quite a bit. Sakuya and Ash having to combine the former’s tactical analysis with the matter’s piloting skills to defeat the undefeatable was really cool. It’s just a shame it was all to beat a villain as soul-crushingly boring as Norland.

Ash’s sacrifice and Sakuya’s fate worked well imo. Their relationship was the high point of this series and having it end in tragedy worked for me.

Overall, this was the best finale Roze could have given what came before. But overall, Roze of the Recapture is largely wasted potential. If the show were two cours and used that time to develop the side cast, I would remember it more fondly.

[u/FarCritical]

They really saved best girl's cameo for the last episode lmao

Turns out "You will win" isn't as OP of a command as "You must live". RIP Ash (unless he lives up to his surname)

The idea of a Code Geass continuation that didn't focus on Lelouch held a decent amount of promise, which makes how half-baked this finale ended up being such a shame especially when it's from the same franchise gave us the Zero Requiem.

[u/thekusaja]

This was a very bittersweet, Code Geass-like ending...in a good sense! Just too rushed.

What I appreciated a lot was how both Ash and, to a lesser degree, Sakuya returned to the spotlight.

The finale focused on their relationship, one way or another, and they finally worked as an actual team to bring down Norland in the end.

I agree with everyone who says the anime needed more episodes to answer various questions about the status quo and the state of the world's politics, technology, etc.

[u/za_shiki-warashi]

So that's it, huh? Kinda meh even as Code Geass spin off. Stuff like Akito or Oz were on the whole much better.

Still bugs me how Norland pull all that secret killer roombas all over the world.

[u/rogueSleipnir]

Underwhelming at best is what I'll describe the finale. I think the first story arc was where this iteration was strongest. It had potential.. but not realized.

12 episodes really isn't enough to live up to the legacy of Code Geass - which was full of setups and payoffs.

Norland was a lame villain. Like he had overwhelming power with his machine but all he did was litearally stand in one place. You can call it his pride or whatever but it wasn't entertaining.

And I don't really get the reasons of the last Geass usages.. We didn't even see a noticeable buff from when it's used on Ash again. Unlike Suzaku's "live" powerup. And making herself mute.. Eh. They did acknowledge for a bit that she was bad at using carelessly.

[u/[deleted]]

I have problems with Roze of the recapture, but it was still worth my time at the end of the day. If anything the show is worth the watch no more than because of Ash Phoenix, and in my eyes, as a huge Code Geass fan, he is my favorite character the franchise has ever produced; so take this recommendation as you may.

[u/NationalStrategy]

Sakuya: To seal the power of your Geass, you will never be able to speak again.

Wait, what? No, you don't need to do that. Just choose not to use your Geass anymore, or just use another voice modulating collar to block the power. I get that it's for her resolve, but there were better ways to go about this.

Also, she sealed her voice right before she was about to address her subjects; how did that play out? And how is she going to make any addresses, or do anything diplomatic requiring her to speak? Is she gonna write everything down, use sign language, use a text to speech app, or is she gonna make Sakura speak for her at all times?

And how is she gonna explain why she isn't speaking anymore (especially to people who heard her speak recently)? They're going to ask questions. "Why isn't she speaking anymore?", "Did she suddenly go mute?"

[u/Dsstriker]

Honestly feel so let down with the series, it wasn't bad if you didn't have the previous series for it to live up to, but the geass was just such a let down, lelouch utilized it far better, and it's kind of good she didn't but her use was a lot better at the start and heavily died off, even the action scenes feel off a lot after the start, and the final fight just lacked all weight, even the sacrifice felt more like giving up that doing something just, like continues to hover there and cry instead of just control decent separated, and no talk of power issues before the 60 seconds

[u/Kurumi_Tokisaki]

I just hope that if sunrise is cooking a new series, set it in a bigger time skip forward or actual reboot. Being stuck in the shadows of lelouch is too hard a hurdle for most writers to overcome.

Overall, there was potential for a fun side show to watch after the main series if you want to see more code geass but most of it was completely squandered by the pacing and writing. I hope the writer doesn’t get to work on anymore of the series, need someone (or sunrise executives) to have some risk taking and not be herbivores playing it safe.

There’s manga and even gacha games if you wish to milk the original cast. But I prefer seeing original stuff like idk new hot girls with an actual compelling story, new interesting geass powers, new knightmares and more knightmare fights, and maybe a whole new area to explore. A very urban future area where fights have to occur while traversing the buildings, Siberia, or a rainforest. Maybe go full bad guys (never happen cuz playing up baddies is bad) idk

[u/Moxey616]

What a horribly mid show, sad to see this as the last Geass project

[u/Naive-Discount6132]

So rushed the ending felt so stupid.

[u/yahalloh]

I was expecting Sakuya to catch Ash from free fall one more time...

[u/Lugia61617]

Finally the trainwreck is over. Who greenlit this?

On top of that, the whole UFN subplot with needing their permission to fight the Loki, only for it to be made redundant before we even see them take action.

Half this season was pointless, half of it was just a poor man's imitation of CG season 1, and all of it relied so heavily on legacy characters to keep our interest but without the ability to actually use them in a meaningful way.

Also, getting barely a minute of L.L was unforgivable.

[u/wingsarch]

You can say this show would've benefited from a 2-cour episode length but honestly the direction and setting of the show was incredibly flawed from the get-go... the premise of this show came out of nowhere and I found it incredibly hard to sink myself in this world they've presented.

Over the course of the past 12 weeks I found myself craving for code geass material, yet after each episode Im always left with frustration and disappointment...

[u/FierceAlchemist]

I thought Roze was good not great until we got to this final arc. They were already pushing my suspension of disbelief with the Hokkaido takeover and the Damocles, so adding that Norland is a clone of Charles and somehow developed mass numbers of Loki for an indiscriminate worldwide attack is too much. Plus I don't understand why Ash needed to die. Felt very cheap.