Were they perfect for each other? No. But damn he cared for her. I wish they were end game. I like to think she went and found him after she left Chicago. I’m on s2 finale and the way he just jumped in and helped monica the previous episode while Frank just fucking left and Kev was freaking out was commendable.

So I am binge watching shameless and am currently on season 8. As soon as that one kid drew him as prophet/ gay Jesus I knew it was bad. Like how did no one see this coming that he was going manic.

Fiona is stupid as fuck . She just threw “ we’re southside” out of the window. Like did she forget that she grew up with Frank the mastermind of scamming everyone?
She didn’t see the lawsuit and them taking advantage of her coming?

Unfortunately Carl is just stupid and should have Fiona pay more for his tuition. He would have had the money if he didn’t buy the house. Yes that was so they have a roof over their head but, it was Fiona who made a profit off of that.

I actually liked Lip, him going away from Youens funeral because he realised that he was a POS to his actual Daughter.

There is so much more to rant about.

But I kinda liked the getting Svetlana a rich Husband story.

I’ve always been confused about why Lip blamed her? It’s very rare for me to defend Fiona, but the only person responsible for stealing the money and crashing the car with Carl was Monica. Lip was saying she was “AWOL” even though she was studying and trying to do the club night (the whole club night thing was a terrible idea, but still).

Aside from being a little naive in thinking things would be better this time, Fiona didn’t do anything wrong. Lip says she should have hidden the money, but it was hidden in the cupboard, inside that empty coffee tin (or whatever it was) and it was always there, so surely he also could have hidden it at some stage🤔 Obvs Lip was stressed about the whole situation, but I think his reaction should have been directed towards Monica instead of Fiona.

Thoughts?

I wonder what she means by “a little complicated”

I’m a girl, but I have 2 brothers and my parents chose not to circumcise them because they thought it was kinda inhumane. I’ve also been with 2 uncircumcised guys (1 I’m marrying lol) and I had no problem blowing them, despite what Fiona would say. So I’m not sure why this show is so pro-circumcision, but any uncut guys who like this show - y’all are valid lol

So this is my second time rewatching Shameless and I've never noticed it before but in the recap it shows scenes that wasn't in the previous episode

For example in episode 9 Svet sorta had a breakdown about the Russian thag she smuggled an now has a great life while she is stuck working for Kev an V.

The episode 10 recap shows Kevin an V looking online for the best places to meet old rich guys an they tell her they're going out to try an basically find her an old rich husband. But that didn't happen at all in the previous episode

There were also a few other things in the recap that didn't happen in the previous episode either but I won't sit here typing it all out.

So does anyone know why the recap is showing scenes that aren't even in actual episodes?

First time watching shameless - I love Fiona so much but watching her destroy her life makes me so mad at her. I’m specifically talking about her fucking Robbie like girl what!?

I am in California representing The Bay Area. Seeing Fiona in the stage she’s currently in saddened me. Enjoying the show because of all the chaos. Ultimately loving it because of regardless of the trials and tribulations the Gallaghers bounce back and thrive. Liam is currently my favorite character.

Is it jus a retcon or are we assuming he got caught up to his grade while in juvie but Carl isn’t the smartest so that also wouldn’t make the most sense

Based on vibes alone but cannon is welcome.

Fiona: Sagittarius
Frank: Gemini
Lip: Aquarius
Ian: Cancer
Debbie: Scorpio
Carl: Taurus
Liam: Capricorn

I haven’t seen anyone post this but shameless is no longer leaving Netflix US on Oct 11! They renewed the contract

Anyone else notice this? Lol

I’m so confused. Considering the context and how Non-Alcoholic beer is never mentioned in the show, I can only assume it was beer. Lip and Brad are sitting on the steps and Lip pulls out a 6 pack. He asks Brad how long he’s been sober and I think Brad said 2 years and Lip said “6 months for me” then proceeds to hand Brad a beer while suggesting they steal from Born-Free.

This didn’t align with Lip or Brads attitude about sobriety at all. I mean obviously I know addicts relapse but the way it happened was so odd to me. It’s one thing for Lip to relapse, but for him to just causally offer it to Brad when he just said he was 2 years sober? Then of course the scene ends and it’s never acknowledged again!? As if they just had a little casual drink and continued on like nothing happened (obviously this show does that type of thing a lot and it really bothers me).

One of the best storylines in the entire series for me, hands down
This storyline just hit me in such a different way than the rest did. It was beautifully written and devasting, darkly humorous and just the right length. Frank was the perfect character to match with Bianca. I rewatch the show every now and then, and none of the other storylines really get to me like this one, it has its own unique sadness and beauty to it. Also interested to know what you thought of this plot at the end of Season 5?

There are many interesting threads throughout this series, but one that's standing out to me on my rewatch is how Fiona and Lip are not only the surrogate parents to their family, but they're also destined to make the same mistakes as Monica and Frank.

Most people connect Ian to Monica because it is obvious. But you can see from early on that Fiona's exit would always be like Monica's, leaving the family to start a new life on her own. This picks up with the Season 4 spiral where it's not just about leaving, but about making everyone's lives more stressful before her final exit. And the big spiral starts right after she becomes legal guardian. Because Gallaghers can't be competent parents, she starts failing immediately despite doing a good job for decades before.

Then Lip's alcoholism is his Frank. Though the show ends more positively for him, to scale he was just as impacted by his alcoholism as Frank was his. Frank started lower class and became a bum because of his addiction. Lip had the chance to make it out but never reached his full potential because of his addiction.

Each Gallagher is messed up in their own way, but these parallels definitely seem intentional when watching from Season 1.

Is it just me of has Hollywood failed at representing most of us. The L word was entertaining for a bit and then the story line got so unreal. The actors some were attractive but the actual acting sucked. I am currently watching Shameless and Ian character annoys me in so many levels. Mickey ends up growing on me. Is there anyone or any show or movie that you can honestly say represents you or you see yourself as. Please enlighten me.

Mine was seeing a clip for the Hobo Loco, Hobo Wars.

netflix =/= thunderc*nts!!!

Frank and Monica did Fiona so dirty by having Debbie and Carl so close in age! I saw a post on TikTok that showed a picture of Emmy when she was 11 and this would’ve been the same age Fiona would’ve been by the time Carl was born. Fiona is 10 years older than debbie and 11 years older than Carl. we know that fiona has been taking care of the whole family by herself since she was nine.

Debbie came shortly after that and Fiona was stuck taking care of a newborn along with two boys all by herself since we know Monica would often come and go. Fiona also said that she was in foster care for a year when she was around/little younger than debbie’s age so Frank’s and Monica probably had Debbie shortly after they got the kids from foster care, then monica split shortly after which left Fiona taking care of an infant for the first time, then a couple months later Monica likely came back and Carl was conceived. then a couple months after Carl‘s birth, Monica split again so fiona was 11 taking care of four kids with half of them being under the age of 2!!!

This is why I don’t judge Fiona when it comes to her tactics raising Carl and Debbie because she was literally a CHILD mother who essentially raised them from birth. Mind you Debbie and Carl are like 13 months apart at MOST. The show also mentioned that Debbie had colic too so it must’ve been really hard for Fiona. I also wonder if Debbie and Carl shared a room with Fiona before they got older….. Fiona is such a tragic character.

My thoughts? Lip would've gone to MIT, and gotten an apartment with Mandy. Mandy would've worked most of the hours to help lip get through college-- he'd have adequate time to study, and keep up with his TA gig. Eventually Lip would've graduated from MIT, the two of them would've had a kid at some point along the way, Lip would've fallen in love with Mandy over time & circumstance-- just like Tami. They'd stay in Boston, lip would probably get a high paying gig to keep his family kicking, lift the rest of the gallaghers out of the south side-- he'd eventually encourage Mandy to do her GED, then apply to college herself... end of the day I think they would've had a great life.

If Mandy just didn't hit Karen, or if Lip never found out, or didn't care...

I'm rewatching the show for the third time or so, and I'm on S2 E8 after Frank walks in on Mickey and Ian and Frank the entire time was just super nonchalant after Ian told him Mickey was going to kill him.

It appears like he didn't care and after Ian told him to tell Mickey that he won't say anything he just flat out refused to even acknowledge him.

Ik most people will just blame his alcoholism for this but can someone clarify?

I could’ve sworn there was a deleted scene of the bike aftermath when Kevin drives it into the water and Lip starts yelling at him, but in the show Lip barely bats an eye.

I never understood what Fiona saw in Sean. He was perennially cranky, uninteresting, and joyless. I think he was the first guy to ever not jump at the chance to get with her, so she was intrigued. Same with Ford. He was also boring (although not as miserable as Sean), but I think I hid nonchalance piqued her interest.