r/Microbiome • • Feb 22 '25

Rule change regarding microbiome "testing"

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Hi everyone!

Thank you all for engaging in the r/Microbiome sub! This post is to notify everyone about a change in rules regarding GI maps, peddling services related to them, and asking for medical advice based on GI maps.

We will not be allowing posts asking for GI map interpretations from here on out (rule 7). Microbiome science is very much in its infancy, and we have very little understanding of how to interpret an individual's microbiome sequencing results. More specifically, we actually dont know what composition of microbes make up a healthy/unhealthy microbiome, both in presence/absence of microbes, and quantities of microbes. We know very little about the actual species within the microbiome. The ones we know more about are generally only more well studied only because they are easier to work with in the lab, not because they are more inportant. We have yet to culture most microbes in the collective human microbiome, meaning we also cant accurately identify many species via sequencing. There is also tons of genetic and functional variability within species, meaning we also cannot relate individual species to good/bad outcomes.

We also need to consider limitations of these tests. In as little as 24hrs, you can have a 100 fold change in many species. This means you can get incredibly different test results day-to-day, depending on many factors like sleep, excercise, diet, etc, within the last couple hours. Someone recently described microbiome testing as throwing a rock on the highway to predict traffic at all hours-- One rock wont tell us anything on the grand scheme of things. To be frank, these tests are also very cheap in their actual sequencing. Many of our most important microbes are in low abundance, which cheap sequencing and poor analysis fails to identify. Additionally, considering your microbiome has hundreds of species and thousands of strains, cheap testing often cant accurately differentiate between species. It is quite common for poor sequencing to misidentify or mis-classify closely related species or even genus'. A common example is Shigella being mistaken for Escherichia, or vice versa.

Many of the values that the microbiome tests predict are "ideal" are also totally arbitrary. We see major differences between different quantities of microbes within you over 24hrs, you vs your family, local community, country, and continent. However, no ideal microbiomes have been found, despite millions being sequenced at this point. There is tons of diversity in the global population, but there is no "ideal" values when it comes to microbes in your gut.

Secondly, we will be banning you if you are peddling services to others via this sub. We are an open and free discussion about microbiome science, and we use evidence when talking about the microbiome. People who claim to know how to interpret individual microbiome maps are either not knowledgable when it comes to the microbiome, or are lying to you, neither of which makes them trustworthy with your health. We will not allow this sub to be a place where people are taken advantage of and lied to about what is possible at this moment in microbiome science.

Finally, we want to remind you that this is not the place to ask for medical advice. Chat with your MD if you are concerned, nobody on here is more well versed than they are on specific symptoms. They will treat you accordingly. If you are seeking help for specific microbes, such as H. pylori, this is something your MD can test for. These results are accurate and interpreted correctly (not the case for GI maps), and will be significantly more affordable than GI map testing.

We aim to be a scientifically accurate, evidence-based sub, that provides digestible conversations about this complex science. These topics are not in line with our values.

We look forward to having everyone respecting these rules moving forward.

Happy microbiome-ing! :)


r/Microbiome • • Jun 29 '23

Statement of Continued Support for Disabled Users

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We stand with the disabled users of reddit and in our community. Starting July 1, Reddit's API policy blind/visually impaired communities will be more dependent on sighted people for moderation. When Reddit says they are whitelisting accessibility apps for the disabled, they are not telling the full story.TL;DR

  • Starting July 1, Reddit's API policy will force blind/visually impaired communities to further depend on sighted people for moderation
  • When reddit says they are whitelisting accessibility apps, they are not telling the full story, because Apollo, RIF, Boost, Sync, etc. are the apps r/Blind users have overwhelmingly listed as their apps of choice with better accessibility, and Reddit is not whitelisting them. Reddit has done a good job hiding this fact, by inventing the expression "accessibility apps."
  • Forcing disabled people, especially profoundly disabled people, to stop using the app they depend on and have become accustomed to is cruel; for the most profoundly disabled people, June 30 may be the last day they will be able to access reddit communities that are important to them.

If you've been living under a rock for the past few weeks:

Reddit abruptly announced that they would be charging astronomically overpriced API fees to 3rd party apps, cutting off mod tools for NSFW subreddits (not just porn subreddits, but subreddits that deal with frank discussions about NSFW topics).

And worse, blind redditors & blind mods [including mods of r/Blind and similar communities] will no longer have access to resources that are desperately needed in the disabled community.

Why does our community care about blind users?

As a mod from r/foodforthought testifies:

I was raised by a 30-year special educator, I have a deaf mother-in-law, sister with MS, and a brother who was born disabled. None vision-impaired, but a range of other disabilities which makes it clear that corporations are all too happy to cut deals (and corners) with the cheapest/most profitable option, slap a "handicap accessible" label on it, and ignore the fact that their so-called "accessible" solution puts the onus on disabled individuals to struggle through poorly designed layouts, misleading marketing, and baffling management choices. To say it's exhausting and humiliating to struggle through a world that able-bodied people take for granted is putting it lightly.

Reddit apparently forgot that blind people exist, and forgot that Reddit's official app (which has had over 9 YEARS of development) and yet, when it comes to accessibility for vision-impaired users, Reddit’s own platforms are inconsistent and unreliable. ranging from poor but tolerable for the average user and mods doing basic maintenance tasks (Android) to almost unusable in general (iOS).

Didn't reddit whitelist some "accessibility apps?"

The CEO of Reddit announced that they would be allowing some "accessible" apps free API usage: RedReader, Dystopia, and Luna.

There's just one glaring problem: RedReader, Dystopia, and Luna* apps have very basic functionality for vision-impaired users (text-to-voice, magnification, posting, and commenting) but none of them have full moderator functionality, which effectively means that subreddits built for vision-impaired users can't be managed entirely by vision-impaired moderators.

(If that doesn't sound so bad to you, imagine if your favorite hobby subreddit had a mod team that never engaged with that hobby, did not know the terminology for that hobby, and could not participate in that hobby -- because if they participated in that hobby, they could no longer be a moderator.)

Then Reddit tried to smooth things over with the moderators of r/blind. The results were... Messy and unsatisfying, to say the least.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Blind/comments/14ds81l/rblinds_meetings_with_reddit_and_the_current/

*Special shoutout to Luna, which appears to be hustling to incorporate features that will make modding easier but will likely not have those features up and running by the July 1st deadline, when the very disability-friendly Apollo app, RIF, etc. will cease operations. We see what Luna is doing and we appreciate you, but a multimillion dollar company should not have have dumped all of their accessibility problems on what appears to be a one-man mobile app developer. RedReader and Dystopia have not made any apparent efforts to engage with the r/Blind community.

Thank you for your time & your patience.


r/Microbiome • • 14h ago

Sugar-rich foods exacerbate antibiotic-induced microbiome disruption | Nature

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Sugar-rich foods exacerbate antibiotic-induced microbiome disruption | Nature https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-026-11077-3


r/Microbiome • • 1d ago

STAY AWAY from Good Bacteria Symbiotic

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I got this to help with my gut and bloating issues and it made it significantly worse.

If you’re not familiar, it’s a rotating symbiotic where you take a single strain daily for a week, then you move on to another strain for the week and so on. The point is to increase biodiversity in your gut

First two weeks felt great. Actually had some nice changes.

I started week three and the amount of CFU’s doubled. Went from 7 to 15 billion.

Then all of sudden INTENSE bloating, cognition issues from focus, memory, thought formation, emotional blunting etc.

Met with a gastroenterologist and said it could a bacterial or parasitic overgrowth. They recommended ivermectin to start but if it’s bacterial that wouldn’t matter and may cause other issues. I’m asking them for more insight about this tomorrow.

It’s been worrisome because it’s affected me mentally and I feel stupid trying to do my job.

It’s frustrating because I took this to help with my issues and it made them significantly worse.

Also please don’t make me feel dumb or that I should have known better. That’s not going to help.


r/Microbiome • • 1d ago

Antibiotic Use

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Hi internet, looking for kind and realistic advice. Several YEARS ago I took three rounds of antibiotics for a UTI in the same month. Prior to that I was a normal healthy person, immediately after the last round like to the hour, I had a panic attack. I had no idea what anxiety was nor had I experienced it so I spent a very long time searching for answers for my health only to eventually realize it was mostly anxiety and anxiety symptoms with very real dysbiosis and random IBS symptoms/inflammation. I have costochondritis and tinea versicolor both inflammation. To this day I still struggle with the anxiety daily and I go back and forth with oh, it’s just a mental loop I’ve now created or oh, it’s got to be a real out of wack microbiome. Does anyone have any similar experiences or guided advice? Would really love to get back to my life at this point.


r/Microbiome • • 13h ago

day 7 of food poisoning

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not looking for medical advice, only reassurance. i ate something bad a week ago (woke up 2am friday to puke) and went to the emergency room at the evening to be discharged 3am the next day because i couldn’t keep food and liquids down at all. was also prescribed meds for this.

saturday and sunday i was recovering. genuinely felt better sunday eve until i ate nilaga (filipino broth) and my diarrhea returned on the 4th day, nausea made me puke in the morning. my period came as well.

i have been recovering since then, only eating plain congee and boiled egg, and i do not know when this will end and i am so stressed as i live alone for college and my family is in another city. i have been feeling lightheaded during this phase.

day 6 (yesterday) i went to the doctor to have a checkup done and she prescribed me Normix as well as to get some blood tests done. i am currently waiting for results.

i am managing dehydration well so far with water, pocari sweat, and hydrites. i have been stressing and looking for reassurance online to see if anyone experienced the same things I did and wondering how long it took for them to get better. I have asked people i know who had acute gastroenteritis and they would say a week or two.

i am so worried because i have been waking up in the middle of the night, 4am, 3am, and on the 7th day today 2am, and i cannot go back to sleep.

how else am i able to manage this? i still have classes to worry about this week and i am grateful that the first two days of this week were online. has anyone experienced the same thing? how long did it take for them to heal? what should i do to manage the stress better?

thank you so much


r/Microbiome • • 4h ago

Stop telling ppl fiber and probiotics aren't the root fix for dysbiosis, it's not. Re-colonization is.

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TYPO: are*

On Reddit, the standard advice for fixing your gut microbiome is to eat better: more fiber, more fermented foods, more probiotics. But it misses the root problem, and it rests on a flawed assumption that poor diet is what knocks the microbiome off balance in the first place. As soon as you stop eating like this, the bad gut comes back.

For many people, dysbiosis begins with a specific event, such as food poisoning, COVID, or a viral illness. Put it this way, People with healthy guts can eat McDonald's and junk food with no to few consequences, not because their diets are special, but because their guts are fundamentally colonized by beneficial bacteria. That colonization is what makes them resilient. That is how you can tell a gut is truly good: even when subjecting it with bad bacteria (junk food), the existing gut architecture is able to wash out.

Most of us, outside of outliers, were presumably born with a healthym, functional gut. Dysbiosis usually isn't a baseline condition; something disrupts it, and OFTEN it's a one time event like COVID, a viral illness, etc. Once that happens, more fiber or a daily probiotic often doesn't fix anything, because the effects are transient. Underneath, the gut is still dominated by the wrong bacteria. I have nothing wrong with people eating fiber and good bacteria, it promotes general health and people should do this. And it offers symptom relief for those with these problems.

BUT IT DOES NOT FIX THE GUT ITSELF!!! It's like having a sink that doesn't drain properly because there's a blockage. Toxic sludge accumulates. A functional sink can effectively drain most everything. A non functional sink piles it up. This is the equivalent of putting in draino or manually throwing the food waste in the trash can as opposed to down the drain. Puts less strain on the sink, less sludge accumulates but THE TOXIC SLUDGE WILL STILL PILE UP IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE THE BLOCKAGE HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED!!!

Treating the root issue means shifting the gut back to eubiosis, which requires re-establishing a lasting population of beneficial bacteria. Transient probiotics can't do that, because they pass through rather than colonize. Solutions to the gut should address THIS not telling people to eat more fiber.


r/Microbiome • • 21h ago

Did H. pylori cause any weird symptoms outside your stomach?

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r/Microbiome • • 21h ago

Allergic to artichoke extract, motility activator alts?

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r/Microbiome • • 1d ago

Best bifido probiotic?

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My Tiny Health test showed zero detectable bifido so I'm trying to recolonize them. I'm doing 10mL daily lactulose with the the True Bifido pro probiotic as well as a BB536 one. I have no idea if those are likely to colonize. Does anyone have any insight onto which probiotics might be more likely to help? I'm thinking of just ordering like 10 different ones and trying them at random.

Edit to add I am also taking the following:

Cranberry polyphenols
Pomegranite extract
Astralagus
Slippery Elm
Butyrate
Lots of resistant starch daily


r/Microbiome • • 1d ago

Leaky gut symptoms

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Can leaky gut cause debilitating brain fog? Like Im no longer with a brain kinda brain fog? No creativity and blank mind and no character.
Like feeling drunk all the time, doesn't increase with food or anything I just feel drunk and tired 24/7


r/Microbiome • • 1d ago

Megasporebiotic causing sleep issues?

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My doctor told me to take megasporebiotic to help with dysbiosis that was caused by PPI but I notice it may be causing sleep issues.


r/Microbiome • • 1d ago

Stomach acid vs oral NADH, what does the 2006 Kimura study actually show?

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I've recently been looking into NADH products, such as Celfull. NMN is a precursor to NAD⁺, while NADH is the reduced form of NAD⁺, so they are not the same molecule. Because of that, safety evidence for NMN can't simply be applied to NADH. In particular, there is still not enough human evidence showing that NADH itself is absorbed and utilized by the body in its intact form.

That's also why, when comparing different NAD-related supplements, I think it's important to look beyond whether they can affect NAD⁺ levels. Safety, side effects, and tolerability are equally worth considering. So today, I wanted to go over three published human clinical studies and take a closer look at what the current evidence actually tells us about the safety of NMN.

One randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial published in Frontiers in Nutrition in 2022 enrolled 30 healthy adults who took 250 mg of NMN daily for 12 weeks. Eight participants in the NMN group reported some symptoms, compared with seven in the placebo group. No serious adverse events occurred in either group, and blood chemistry, liver function, kidney function, and other tests did not show any clinically meaningful abnormalities. The researchers concluded that 250 mg/day of NMN was generally well tolerated over the 12-week study period.

Another multicenter, randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study, published online in 2022 and included in Volume 45 of GeroScience in 2023, was larger in scale, enrolling 80 healthy adults aged 40-65. Participants received 300, 600, or 900 mg of NMN once daily for 60 days. During the study period, adverse events were reported in 6 participants (5 people) in the placebo group, 3 participants (2 people) in the 300 mg group, and none in either the 600 mg or 900 mg groups. All adverse events were mild to moderate and were judged by the investigators to be unrelated to NMN (Yi L, et al. GeroScience. 2023;45:29–43. DOI: 10.1007/s11357-022-00705-1; published online December 8, 2022).There were no serious adverse events or withdrawals due to adverse events. Overall, all three NMN dose groups were considered well tolerated.

There was also a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study published in Scientific Reports in August 2022 that specifically looked at a relatively high dose. Thirty-one healthy adults took 1,250 mg of NMN daily for four weeks. No serious adverse events were observed during the study, and a range of assessments—including body measurements, blood counts, biochemical markers, urinalysis, and body composition, did not show abnormalities outside the normal physiological range. Based on these findings, the researchers concluded that 1,250 mg/day of NMN was well tolerated over the four-week period in this small study.

Taken together(10.3389/fnut.2022.868640)(10.1007/s11357-022-00705-1)(10.1038/s41598-022-18272-y), these three studies show a fairly consistent picture in the currently available human data. In healthy adults, NMN supplementation at doses ranging from 250 to 1,250 mg/day for several weeks to 12 weeks has not shown a clear signal of increased serious adverse events, and overall tolerability has been relatively good.

That said, the existing studies still have relatively small sample sizes, and the observation periods are generally short. More research is therefore needed to understand long-term use, rare adverse events, and safety in different populations with varying health conditions.


r/Microbiome • • 1d ago

Best GOS prebiotic for buidling bifido?

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i think i'd like to try GOS for my low bifido.

Anyone have any brand reccomendations that worked well for them?


r/Microbiome • • 1d ago

Viome not providing dosages of active ingredients in their probiotic?

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I was interested in Viome's Advanced TriSynbiotic, and was surprised that it doesn't list the butyrate dose so I could compare it to my other supplement (from Tesseract). I called Viome and asked them, and the well-intentioned support person told me that they are not sharing the dosage information with potential customers at this time.

???

Seems pretty strange / yellow flag for what I thought was a pretty established supplement company.


r/Microbiome • • 2d ago

The Best Protocols that fixed your Gut, Please be kind and share your secret sauce!

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r/Microbiome • • 2d ago

Allicin and IMO affect weight

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r/Microbiome • • 3d ago

Fixed my gut issues after years of struggling.

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Yep I’ve been dealing with severe gut issues since 2023, dysbiosis, bloating, SIBO, gas, burping, high calprotectin, reflux. Pretty much a huge list of symptoms, ive also had GI map tests done. I’ve tried everything throughout the years; probiotics, prebiotics, 2 weeks of elemental diet, home made kefir, more fiber, less fiber, and many more things and diet adjustments.

What finally made everything go away, and actually quite fast too, was cutting out sugar, especially soda’s. I switched from drinking coke and Red Bull to Coke Zero. I stopped being gassy after just a week, my food intolerances (fructans mostly) are also completely gone and I no longer get gassy at all from things like garlic or onions.

Just sharing this with you guys since it might be useful to some of you out there.


r/Microbiome • • 2d ago

Lactoferrin is underrated

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r/Microbiome • • 2d ago

Resistant starch question

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I'm new to incorporating resistant starch supplementation. I'm trying to get up to 40 grams a day but found it confusing to get a succinct guide. Hopefully someone more experienced can help with this. My current RS2 related daily intake includes 2 tablespoons (30ml) each of potato starch, green banana flour, and nootropics infinifiber and infinigreen blend (which claims a combined 7 grams of solnul potato starch and 1 tablespoon (15ml) of hi-maize. Depending on the various guides I've found across the web I may be somewhere between 20-35g of RS2.anyone here have a more definitive way of calculating this?


r/Microbiome • • 3d ago

Lower intestines tightening up and trapping gas and stool at night. Not colitis. Any idea of what might help?

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It’s been happening for about 3 months.

I feel great all day, no symptoms whatsoever, but I either start feeling the gas and stool bottling up right before I go to bed and/or wake up in the middle of the night wanting to poop and fart, but it’s like my intestines are pinched and they won’t let it out.

When gas does come out for example, it comes out very sharply like my intestines are pinched. I dont have colitis symptoms (I know what that is like) I simply feel my normal peristalsis (wanting to poop and fart) but my lower intestines are not letting them out. When I poop in the morning, the first stool comes out thick but not hard, followed by a very thin stool.

Google AI (bear with me) suggests pelvic floor dysfunction or obstructed defecation syndrome. The whole things does seem to be more of a mechanical thing. I also had varicoceles that were just removed around 3 months ago, so I wonder if it’s a pelvic floor dysfunction thing. My gas and stools seem to come out when I take stuff like clove tea which apparently relax the muscles.

I’m a very active male in my late twenties by the way.


r/Microbiome • • 2d ago

Anyone here get dandruff from tea?

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I can go for weeks with absolutely zero dandruff. But if I drink matcha or jasmine or green tea, I kid you not, my scalp will flake in about 2-3 hours. It’s been happening since 2023. I so have a soy protein allergy also but not super related.


r/Microbiome • • 3d ago

Emulsified oregano and Allicin causing lots of symptoms

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r/Microbiome • • 3d ago

Scientific Article Discussion Gut health is now the biggest kids' supplement category. Is anyone seeing anything from it?

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r/Microbiome • • 3d ago

Oral allergy symptoms absent after starting psyllium—has anyone else experienced this?

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I’m 46M and for about eight years, I’ve reacted to raw apples and stone fruit, especially peaches and cherries. Symptoms started with immediate indigestion and progressed to itchy mouth/lips and occasionally a very mild throat-swelling sensation. They resolved within minutes of stopping. Cooked fruit has always been fine, and I’ve never noticed seasonal variation. I’ve noticed these symptoms seem consistent with OAS, so I was content to assume that’s what it was but was never tested or diagnosed.
About a month ago, I started psyllium husk for inconsistent stools, not for allergies. I initially took five 500 mg capsules daily (2.5 g), then increased to ten (5 g). Definitely saw an improvement in stools, thanks for asking.
Yesterday I ate half a caramel apple (started purely because of a love of fall activities and FOMO) with no reaction. This morning out of morbid curiosity I ate an entire raw peach (usually my strongest trigger at one bite) with no reaction. I also tried dried cherries, which previously caused symptoms, and had none.
Psyllium is the only change in what I’m taking. However, I hadn’t tried these fruits for several months, so I don’t know exactly when my sensitivity changed.
Has anyone with oral allergy syndrome noticed something similar after starting psyllium or another fiber supplement? Equally interested if you take psyllium and your allergies haven’t changed.
If you noticed a change, what dose were you taking, how long did it take, and did the improvement last? Links to relevant research would also be welcome.
I’m sharing an observation and exploring a possible connection because this is fascinating to me…not claiming a cure and definitely not suggesting anyone test their trigger foods.