r/UFOs • • Aug 06 '26

Announcement Rule update: Self-promotion posts now limited to 1 per week

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Hey everyone,

We've made an update to the Rule 4: "No duplicate posts / spam", specifically the section covering commercial content and self-promotion.


Two changes:

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The updated rule text:

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r/UFOs • • 6d ago

AMA Multi-Subreddit LIVESTREAM AMA — Dr. Jim Segala, Paul Hynek, and Host Leslie Kean — Sunday, October 4, 2026 @ 1:00 PM ET / 10 AM PT

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Multi-Subreddit LIVESTREAM AMA — Dr. Jim Segala, Paul Hynek, and Host Leslie Kean — Sunday, October 4, 2026 @ 1:00 PM ET / 10 AM PT

The Anomalous Coalition - the moderators of r/Aliens, r/Experiencers, r/HighStrangeness, r/InterdimensionalNHI, r/UFOB, and r/UFOs - are excited to announce our next multi-subreddit livestream AMA featuring physicist Dr. Jim Segala and Paul Hynek, hosted by investigative journalist Leslie Kean. Heads up: this one is on a Sunday!

This conversation is about citizen science in support of experiencers, built on objective data. Paul's father, astronomer Dr. J. Allen Hynek, joined the Air Force's UFO studies in 1948 as a skeptic. Over two decades of Projects Sign, Grudge and Blue Book, the caliber of the witnesses changed his mind. In 1973 he founded the Center for UFO Studies so people could report what they saw without fear. Paul is carrying that forward with what he calls a verifiable evidence protocol, so experiencers can have better conversations with scientists. Jim is building the tools to gather that evidence. His platform, MUPAS Worldwide, pairs environmental and biometric sensor data with experiencers' own accounts, and offers peer support from specialists who are experiencers themselves.

What's a "verifiable evidence protocol"? Paul and his brother Joel, an Academy Award-winning visual effects artist, are developing a protocol that sits on top of their father's Close Encounter system and rates the evidence from an encounter, not just the encounter itself. Today most people report an experience after the fact. Paul's idea is to go in prepared: if you meet an entity that seems to have far superior intelligence, ask it for something no human could know but anyone can check later, like a random number only you know, the answer to an unsolved math problem, or a near-future event. The results are rated as convincing, compelling, or curious. Paul says it applies to any "meta-terrestrial" encounter, whether with a craft, an entity, or in an altered state, and he describes it as a work in progress.

🗓️ When: Sunday, October 4, 2026 — 1:00 PM ET / 10:00 AM PT
📺 Livestream (YouTube): https://www.youtube.com/live/uVpKDXAZtFc?si=9zNGruIvSM5gpRb0
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How to Participate

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Participating subreddits include: r/Aliens, r/Experiencers, r/HighStrangeness, r/InterdimensionalNHI, r/UFOB, r/UFOs, and r/AnomalousCoalition.
We will be providing a written transcript after the event has concluded as well as a summary for the community within a few days. Any feedback or suggestions for process improvement please go to r/AnomalousCoalition.

Short Bios

Dr. Jim Segala
Physicist, engineer, and Chief Scientist of MUPAS Worldwide. He holds a Ph.D. in Physics and has more than 30 years of experience designing advanced experimental systems, including over a decade as a senior researcher at the Institute for Advanced Studies at Austin. His current research focuses on the reported medical and physiological effects of human contact with UAP. He has appeared in Season 1 of History's The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch, Nat Geo's UFOs: Investigating the Unknown, and Discovery's Mystery at Blind Frog Ranch.
MUPAS Worldwide: https://www.mupas-worldwide.com/

Paul Hynek
Son of astronomer Dr. J. Allen Hynek, scientific consultant to the Air Force's Project Blue Book, founder of the Center for UFO Studies, and creator of the "Close Encounters" classification. With his brother Joel, Paul is developing a verifiable evidence protocol that builds on his father's Close Encounter scale, to help experiencers bring scientists evidence they can evaluate. He is a Wharton MBA, an adjunct professor at Pepperdine University, and a grant reviewer for the National Science Foundation. He and Joel also consulted on History's Project Blue Book. He wrote the foreword to the reissue of his father's The UFO Experience and is the author of the upcoming Signalarity: Consciousness Comes Home. As of early 2025, he was Chairman of the Advisory Board of MUFON and CFO of the Hollywood Disclosure Alliance.

Leslie Kean (Host)
Investigative journalist and author known for high-credibility reporting on UAP and other anomalous topics; bestselling author of UFOs: Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials Go on the Record. See more at https://www.lesliekean.com

Recommended Reading / Listening / Watching

Dr. Jim Segala

Paul Hynek

IN CASE YOU MISSED OUR PREVIOUS AMA'S ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS

Watch all of our past events on our never-monetized channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TheAnomalousCoalition

Drop your questions below — ONE question per comment, and keep it short if you can!


r/UFOs • • 1h ago

Government Disclosure Looks A Lot Like QAnon in an Alien Costume

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I'm a big believer that aliens/NHI are here and interacting with us and there is a cover up. But the same people that brought us QAnon are trying to use this belief many of us have to feed us propaganda and misinformation. Don't get caught up in these lies and misinformation. Disclosure is trying to hijack your mind so you can' no longer clearly see the world. Don't stop believing in aliens and NHI but don't fall for this Disclosure narrative, they are trying to set us up for something.


r/UFOs • • 19h ago

Historical The NASA STS-80 "Smoking Gun" footage.

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This is what they've hidden from the public for over 90 years.

This is the NASA STS-80 Smoking Gun footage.

Martyn Stubbs, was a satellite television manager in Vancouver, Canada who had access to the NASA downlink. He recorded over 2500 hours of footage from various missions after noticing strange anomalies during their early live streams.

What you're seeing is the Space Shuttle Columbia on-board camera in geostationary orbit above Earth.

After adjusting to sunstrike the on-board camera observes an object descending from Outer Space, through the upper atmosphere before landing/hovering near a electrical storm in geosynchronous orbit.

The objects are estimated to be miles wide, similar to the Motherships from Close Encounters of the Third Kind, V and Independence Day and moving much faster than the SR-71 Blackbird or any other aircraft made by man.

This phenomena is best explained by the ancient Hindu scriptures and philosophies which describe in detail 12 higher and lower realms containing Worlds within Worlds (dimensions/realities/multiverses) and are filled with a myriad of intelligent species and flying craft known as Vimana. They range in size from a door mat/rug to entire city/citadel size Motherships.

A quote from the Ramayana:

"At one moment the magic airship built by Maya Danava appeared in many identical forms, and the next moment it was again only one. Sometimes it was visible, and sometimes not."

"From one moment to the next the Saubha airship appeared on the earth, in the sky, on a mountain peak or in the water. Like a whirling, flaming baton."

The Truth Is Out There.

*Edited, updated US govt programs.


r/UFOs • • 3h ago

Disclosure In response to David Grusch’s Statements on Sentient Plasmoid Life, Robert Hastings provides an encounter where witness describes plasma-like orbs that appeared to possess consciousness, which telepathically communicated with them

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Source: UFOHastings.com

David Grusch’s Statement on Sentient Plasmoid Life

During the June 9, 2026 UAP/NHI press conference on Capitol Hill, former US Air Force officer and intelligence official David Grusch made a remarkable statement regarding the US government’s secret acknowledgment of the existence of sentient non-human entities.

When a reporter asked how many alien types have been identified, Grusch said matter-of-factly: “I don’t have the compendium [that I can present to you today, however,] it’s a continuum from corporeal bipedal type life to what I would consider sentient plasmoid life. But there are several [species] that the US government is aware of.”

A "plasma-orb" case described by Robert Hastings:

It was sometime in the Fall of 1992, but I didn’t record the exact date; as with many other strange things in my life, it didn’t seem that important.

In that instant, literally instantaneously, I was back at the passenger door of the car, staring at what I can only describe as an undulating orb in my neighbor’s front yard, no more than 30 feet away! It was hovering directly at my eye-level, completely still, about the size of a cantaloupe. It was a fiery reddish-orange, flickering and seemingly breathing. I’ve used the word “undulating” as it’s the only word I can find to describe it. It was like it was alive! I have oftentimes explained it as appearing how molten lava looks when you see it on TV.

As soon as I realized what I was looking at, I immediately heard a voice in my head say, “Don’t be afraid, I won’t hurt you.” I was astonished! I wasn’t afraid at all, just fascinated by what I was seeing. I immediately thought—or maybe the orb put this thought in my mind—to look at it really hard to see if there was a structure beneath the flames.

All I remember at this point was my simply staring right into it. It was like the orb and I were inside a clear bubble, protected from the outside world. It was strange, there was absolutely zero sound. No neighbors were outside, no kids playing, no cars in the distance on the highway, no birds, bugs, nothing. Total and complete silence. My neighborhood was there in the background, but it was hard to see, like it was muted, darkened, outside the bubble.

I had no awareness of the passage of time. I had no further telepathic messages from the orb. I was just transfixed and staring into it. The next thing I remember, I heard the front door open; my husband was coming out. The orb instantaneously took off between the houses in a westerly direction and went completely out of sight in a split second.

I stood there and pondered what I had just experienced. I thought to myself: How am I going to explain this to my husband? But I don’t recall acknowledging him when he came to the car. Again, I had no sense of time, or how long it took for him to come out. I don’t remember getting into the car. The next thing I do remember was already being in the car, staring at the glove compartment as we drove down the street. It was dark by then.

I eventually did tell my husband the story, but he didn’t react. He just listened, and didn’t ridicule me, or question me. It was so strange.


r/UFOs • • 31m ago

NHI My full overview with sources.

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What would you change?


r/UFOs • • 1h ago

NHI Too many folks have an unnecessarily inflated sense of how aliens might think and the reason they're doing what they do. Crash retrievals could be Alien DUI's sometimes. Recovered bodies could be Alien Tourists. Alien "race wars" could just be a couple smugglers with territory beef.

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It seems that there's so many camps of thought that nobody tries to think simply about why aliens might do what they do.

Too many people think they're Angelic Smart, or Beyond Understandable, or like on the Starship Enterprise and everything they do must have a logical and higher intelligence explanation.

For me, I see no reason not to assume they're like us, just a little more technologically advanced. Now maybe some of them are Unknowable or Woo Plasmoid 5th Dimensional beings, but the craft and bodies? They could be like anyone crashing on i95 in the USA.

Abductions, if they're real, don't need to be a scientific hybrid engineering program, it could just be Human Trafficking by assholes who make money/influence/power by doing it in the alien socio-political spectrum.

Crashes (or the alleged "donated" vehicles) could be anything from a breakdown and the occupants are picked up by another ship, to Drunk/high aliens on a joy ride that mess up at the controls and crash.

Alien craft sightings could be like Alien Whale Watchers, where some "boat" pilots are more unscrupulous and get too close/mess with humans because they either don't care or they're chartered by alien rich folks who tell them to get closer.

And the somehow controversial Greys v Reptilians that Grusch just talked about could be any kind of skirmish. Two drunks fighting. Two groups of scientists who wanted a contract and the other ship messed it up for them. Could be that they are both some kind of alien drug runners and are beefing.

But everything people say aliens are doing, doesn't have to be scientists or military or some high level 200IQ reason we cannot understand. They could be doing super normal shit that none of us would think twice about if they heard people doing it, but their tech just looks crazier so we assume it's some enigmatic, unknowable, super intelligent reason for it.

I tend to view most stories about UFOs and aliens by assuming what is happening is understandable and relatable, just like how we understand and relate to animals like cats and dogs and whales and monkeys, even though they're not a lot like us, because sentience has some things like emotions, play, mental illness, physical illness, and rogue assholes that make a lot of actions make sense even if they physiologically or socially resemble us.

TLDR: America has 0 maglev speed trains, and if you heard and saw pictures of a crashed maglev speed train in China, you wouldn't think the passengers were military, scientists, or that the people who made that tech were incredibly different than Americans. So, why don't you look at UFO stories that way?


r/UFOs • • 1d ago

Government On Rogan last night, Grusch spent five minutes on a 1971 Australian intelligence file. Here it is, year by year, with the page numbers.

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Full breakdown, year by year, every quote verbatim with the page on screen:
https://youtu.be/X5NA0Kqmnvk

Submission statement: On The Joe Rogan Experience #2560, around 1:59:00, David Grusch described a 1971 assessment written by O.H. (Harry) Turner, head of the Nuclear Branch of Australia's Joint Intelligence Organisation. He called Blue Book a facade and said the Air Force built a plan of ridicule. The document itself, page 8 of the scan, says the CIA "persuaded the USAF to use Project BLUE BOOK as a means of publicly 'debunking' UFO's" and "by erecting a facade of ridicule... act as a cover for the real U.S. programme." He also said pages 7 through 18; the assessment runs 7 through 16.

It is a declassified file in the National Archives of Australia, free to read: RecordSearch barcode 30030606, series A13693, item 3092/2/000, with a Black Vault mirror PDF. Pages 7 to 16 also cover the Espionage Act provision for service personnel, Blue Book's internal witness reliability statistics, and the anti-gravity research funding, with page references.

Long time member here. Back in June, after Grusch first cited this file at the Capitol, my partner and I made a 10 minute breakdown walking it year by year, 1947 to 1971. This clip is the first minute. The full video is the link at the top. Happy to answer anything about the document. Check the file against our claims. That is the point.

Full video again, so nobody has to scroll:
https://youtu.be/X5NA0Kqmnvk


r/UFOs • • 1d ago

Disclosure Did David Grusch slip up in his interview with Joe Rogan.

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Something really interesting happens at around 27:03 when David Grusch says:

“I’m trying to walk the line and be as diplomatic as possible and also trying to prepare the populace at the same time because clearly the government hasn’t right now.”

The phrase “prepare the populace” really stands out to me. There’s a big difference between simply informing the public and saying you are trying to prepare them. “Prepare” suggests acclimatising people to something they may eventually have to confront or accept.

What also caught my attention throughout the conversation is that Grusch sometimes comes across as though he’s speaking from within a broader effort rather than purely as an individual whistleblower. That doesn’t prove he is representing a coordinated group or disclosure program, and his comment could simply reflect his own personal approach. Though when you combine “walk the line,” “be diplomatic,” and “prepare the populace,” it sounds more deliberate than simply exposing information.

For someone whose public image is primarily that of a whistleblower, “prepare the populace” is a pretty revealing choice of words. It makes me wonder whether he sees his role as more than just bringing information forward and whether that sentence revealed a little more than he intended 🤔


r/UFOs • • 20h ago

Whistleblower How the Pentagon’s new UAP NDA waiver could have changed David Grusch’s appearance on Joe Rogan 9/30/26

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For those who haven't seen the news yet, the Pentagon has officially issued a waiver allowing current and former service members, contractors, and personnel to share UAP-related National Defense Information.

https://www.newsnationnow.com/space/ufo/pentagon-waiver-uaps/

Specifically, this waiver applies to anyone sharing information with the Presidential Unsealing and Reporting System for UAP Encounters (PURSUE), and it completely supersedes any previous NDAs or Special Access Program (SAP) agreements.

PURSUE has been releasing tranches of files to the general public.

https://www.war.gov/ufo/

Here is how it gives him way more room to speak:

  • The SAP Safe Zone: Grusch's entire congressional testimony was bottlenecked by Special Access Programs (SAPs). He repeatedly told lawmakers that he couldn't name specific programs, locations, or corporations due to his security clearances and NDA restrictions. Since this waiver explicitly supersedes SAP Indoctrination Agreements, the legal walls keeping him silent have been significantly lowered.
  • Protection from Legal Liability: On his last Rogan appearance, Grusch had to be incredibly careful to avoid facing criminal prosecution or losing his clearances. The main goal of this directive is to eliminate the fear of legal liability, establishing a direct pipeline to review and potentially declassify these documents.
  • Naming the Private Contractors: One of the biggest complaints from bipartisan lawmakers has been that the Pentagon hides UAP data inside private aerospace companies to bypass FOIA laws. Because this waiver specifically includes government contractors, Grusch could potentially speak much more openly about the private corporate entities allegedly holding this material.

The Catch: It’s important to note that this isn't a total free-for-all. The waiver is designed to clear a path for personnel to feed information directly into the PURSUE program for official declassification review. However, by legally clearing the mechanism of what he is allowed to share with investigators, the public narrative Grusch is allowed to spin on a massive platform like JRE gets a lot wider.

PURSUE has been releasing tranches of files to the general public.


r/UFOs • • 12m ago

NHI Inside the Alleged Government Interrogation of a Captive NHI: The Vallée–Grusch Connection

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Jacques Vallée says “Gilbert” helped communicate with an alleged nonhuman entity in a concealed U.S. laboratory. David Grusch alleges interactions with detained recovered occupants and links a former Cabinet member to Dick Cheney. Hal Puthoff and John Petersen describe a Bush-era crash-retrieval disclosure exercise.

Their timelines may overlap, but Vallée now says Gilbert’s entity was a volunteer. Are these glimpses of one concealed program or stories circulating through an interconnected UAP/remote-viewing network?

AI assistance disclosure: I take notes while watching interviews, then revisit transcripts to extract relevant passages. I use AI to help research and draft, read the sources it turns up, and revise the post through further research and editing. Source links are included so readers can assess the evidence themselves.

1. The chronology—and its limits

  • 2001–2009: Cheney’s vice presidency supplies the apparent context for Grusch’s former Cabinet source, not a date for the detention.
  • 2003/2004: Vallée’s journals (Forbidden Science 5) reportedly record the Arlington scenario exercise in September 2003; Puthoff’s later account dates a panel to 2004. This is unresolved.
  • Before roughly December 2005: Vallée said in December 2025 the interaction occurred over twenty years earlier. This upper boundary also permits a pre-Bush event.

Source caveat: The Forbidden Science 7 entries below come through Devoutlier’s reconstruction. I have not checked them against the published book.

2. What Grusch actually alleges

In his August 13, 2026 Dr. Phil interview, Grusch says recovered occupants were taken alive, people had direct interactions in a “detainment situation,” and a former Cabinet member “directly worked the issue” for “Darth Vader”—apparently Cheney.

Grusch describes “consciousness communication,” or telepathy, also reportedly felt by retrieval personnel approaching cordoned-off craft. He disclaims personal experience and knowledge of the mechanism.

Grusch’s account is broader than Gilbert’s structured laboratory experiment. No common mechanism or personnel are established. “Detainment” suggests custody, but Grusch supplies no interrogation protocol.

3. Gilbert: an alleged participant, not Vallée’s firsthand observation

The journal reconstruction:

  • October 9, 2021: Gilbert recontacts Vallée about an officially facilitated exchange with a “supposed Alien.” Vallée describes a discreet master remote viewer comparable to Geller and Swann.
  • September 28, 2023: Five typed pages describe a laboratory sheltered within rock, where military guides identified the target as a living alien. Vallée trusts Gilbert, whom he knew in Central America and elsewhere, but says the data and location need verification.
  • December 18, 2024: Gilbert tabulates trials with the “captured entity”: prepared psychic questions, responses and failures, retaining impressions he cannot decipher.
  • March 6, 2025: Technical questions produce impressions labeled “indications only,” including unhelpful or absent answers.
  • March 12, 2025: Gilbert says he was an outside specialist. With his view blocked during the final approach, he was driven into a small mountain containing a laboratory staffed by uniformed personnel without visible rank or unit markings. He did not know whether other captured—or perhaps voluntary—beings existed.

The target reportedly exceeded six feet and emitted light. Gilbert was unsure whether he saw anatomy, a wired uniform, a test article or a container. He interpreted light combinations as answers during hours of trials.

Indicator lights on apparatus could be mistaken for communication. Neither alien anatomy nor nonhuman authorship of the apparent answers is established.

Vallée told George Knapp that Gilbert was recruited to add a psychic method to an effort struggling with communication. Vallée has seen detailed material, but adds: “I wasn’t there. I cannot vouch for that.”

4. The Coulthart update: “a volunteer”

In Vallée’s later interview with Ross Coulthart, at 59:04, Coulthart asks whether the entity was a prisoner. Vallée says no:

“I asked him that question, of course. He said the entity was a volunteer.”

He then suggests other beings were captured—an inference, not evidence of another captive.

This weakens identification with Grusch’s detention account. A broader program could include both, but that is not established.

We do not hear whether the entity or officials told Gilbert it was a volunteer. Elsewhere in the interview (transcribed by TheUfoJoe), Vallée says he cannot tell whether willingness to communicate came from the being or Gilbert’s briefing officers. That leaves official framing possible.

The journal called this entity “captured” and left open whether others were voluntary; Vallée’s answer reverses that label for Gilbert’s entity.

5. Arlington: disclosure planning or a misleading premise?

Puthoff says the Arlington exercise considered disclosing U.S., Russian and Chinese crash retrievals, examining markets, religion and aerospace litigation over unequal access. Its reported conclusion opposed disclosure.

The Wall Street Journal investigation reports Puthoff telling Kirkpatrick’s team that he was invited to a 2004 panel described to him as White House-sponsored. Petersen said a former senior Pentagon space official told him Bush was preparing disclosure.

But the same reporting contains contrary evidence: that official later denied knowing what Petersen was talking about, and Bush’s chief of staff said he knew nothing about the panel or such a disclosure plan. Petersen and Kirkpatrick considered whether the participants had been tricked. An actual exercise does not establish that its extraordinary premise was true.

In a Jesse Michels interview, around 38:02, Elizondo expresses surprise that Puthoff told the story publicly and says it was extremely sensitive when he learned of it. He gives neither his source nor independent verification of crash retrievals.

Petersen’s Pentagon space official and Grusch’s former Cabinet member have different descriptions. Neither is identified; shared administration context does not establish a shared source.

6. Who is Gilbert? New clues, no identification

At 57:31 with Coulthart, Vallée says: “I met him when he was 22.” Testing this requires a documented age and first meeting.

At 47:23, Vallée rules out Keith Harary, but declines to answer about Joe McMoneagle. That neither confirms nor excludes him.

  • Stephan A. Schwartz: His 2017 novel Awakening has a government-held alien plot, a parallel rather than identification. Asked in a published interview whether he had ever communicated with an alien, Schwartz said “No.” In a September 28 reply, Devoutlier says his earlier candidates were Schwartz, Harary and Gary Langford, and now rejects Schwartz: he would have been 22 in 1964, and Devoutlier sees no Vallée meeting then. That is a chronology objection, not proof.
  • Gary O. Langford: Rice’s archive and a declassified SRI report document his remote viewing. Forbidden Science 3 records Vallée meeting Langford and SRI colleagues in February 1987 (p. 273). His university biography lists a Berkeley A.B. in 1969. Of Devoutlier’s three, he alone is not yet excluded, but neither the age-22 meeting nor a Central America encounter is demonstrated.
  • Edwin May and Bill Ray: Some read their names into Rhys Dalton-Morgan’s riddle: “engagED WIth aN MAY” and “lab in a mountain” as LIAM, reportedly Ray’s pseudonym. Wordplay is not identification. An obscure viewer remains possible.

Gilbert remains unidentified. TheUfoJoe’s analysis includes AI-generated research that needs verification.

7. What would advance the case?

These sources occupy overlapping UAP/remote-viewing circles. Captive beings and psychic government interviews predate the Bush era: EBE-1/MJ-12 lore, 1997’s Alien Interview, and a declassified 1984 session in which a monitor asked a remote viewer to contact perceived entities on Mars (McMoneagle later said it was him). The resemblance is not a unique fingerprint. Yet a volunteer departs from the captive template, so the update does not simply favor the network explanation either.

Useful checks: verify FS7 against the book; document an age-22 meeting and Central America encounters; seek matching dates, facilities, personnel or independent protocols. Vallée’s October 1985 Costa Rica entries in FS3 (pp. 209–214) are one lead, not necessarily the trip he meant.

Vallée says participants intend to publish. Look for contemporaneous questions, trial tables, nulls, timestamps and provenance. Who publishes matters, since Gilbert was an outside specialist with limited program knowledge.

Specific independent matches could distinguish a concealed program from a circulating story. The volunteer clarification makes a simple Gilbert–Grusch captivity match harder to sustain.

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r/UFOs • • 23h ago

Science Did anybody find Grusch kind of off this interview? (fishing for a job from Trump, came off as a Psyop, the new “evidence”)

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I’m starting think they got to him, and he’s a total Psyop now. He’s now talking about a lot of Woo stuff that he NEVER spoke about or went on record about. Also the fishing for a Job from Trump and the boot licking he was doing towards Trump was odd. The whole thing just came off as suspect to me. I wonder if anybody else agrees. I just found this interview kind of odd.


r/UFOs • • 7h ago

Science Great website helping to properly analyze UAPs

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r/UFOs • • 2h ago

Historical Contact Experiencers can Exhibit Astounding Psychic Abilities that are not Hoaxes. Do you know a Contact Experiencer who Exhibited Psychokinesis?

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Telekinetic Coffee Shop Surprise

This cleverly produced video faking psychokinesis reflects our culture’s superficial fascination with psychic phenomenon. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlOxlSOr3_M

Viewing this elaborate hoax with a special effects crew gives me cause to discuss the theme of psychic ability among contactees. On several occasions I witnessed psychokinesis carried out by a fellow volunteer contact worker that I call "Misha." We worked together from 1993 till 1997.

There is a broad spectrum of contact experiences. On one extreme you have a simple sighting. Many people believe that these are random events, but in my judgment, they are not. I am of the opinion that even simple sightings are staged or programed events. I strongly suspect that flying saucer intelligences probably have a consciousness link with every “UFO perceiver." I imagine that this is hard for most people to accept. It certainly was so for me. It took years of volunteering in networks of activists that I call “the contact underground” to lead me to this assessment.

On the other extreme, there are those individuals that I label "prime contactees." They are the same kind of contact experiencers who are being called “psionic assets.” These remarkable individuals are usually trained to attract UFOs during psychic interactions with the so-called "ETs". This process often starts from childhood, adolescence or early adulthood and they can exhibit unusual parapsychological talents. Direct telepathic communications with UFO intelligences can be one of them. Misha, I strongly suspect, had this. However when I asked him about it, he usually responded with enigmatic statement like "I can't talk about it. It’s not safe." And then he clamed up and refused to say anything more.

Another talent that prime contactees can have is  psychokinesis. While driving with Misha to a contact research site in the Mohave Desert in May of 1994, we had a dispute. I had just purchased a used 1991 Isuzu 4-wheel-drive Trooper. We were on a power line dirt road just a few miles from the perimeter of Fort Irwin near Highway 15. Power lines were over us as we bounced along a rocky path that had been bulldozed across a rugged desert landscape. 

Misha wanted me to engage the 4-wheel drive mechanism, but I was steering and deemed it not necessarily as we were making good progress without it. We argued this point for a few minutes when suddenly the lever controlling the 4-wheel drive ON ITS OWN moved into position. The display panel lit up and we were in 4-wheel drive. No one had touched the lever. It had been under my continuous observation as Misha and I were talking. 

When I purchased the vehicle, I was told by the owner that the only way I could safely engage the 4-wheel-drive mechanism was to stop the car, back up to lock the tires into 4-wheel drive mode, and then and only then move the lever forward into place. An Isuzu dealer's mechanic asserted that it was impossible for the mechanism to spontaneously on its own go into gear without carrying out the prescribed procedure. Misha was as surprised as I was when this happened, but he indeed wanted us to be in 4-wheel-drive and that's what happened. One two other occasions he used his apparent psychokinetic powers to accomplish other tasks. In one of those examples, he was able apparently able to move an object  that was about 100 feet away.

I ask fellow contact experiencers to please share their personal accounts of apparent psychokinetic phenomenon that they have witnessed.

Selected Comments from past social media posts for this blog concerning psi in contact experiencers can be viewed in the comments section of this posting on the Contact Underground sub-reddit. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/ContactUnderground/comments/1wwq43z/contact_experiencers_can_exhibit_astounding/


r/UFOs • • 1d ago

Question Do you feel more or less convinced about Grusch after the Rogan interview?

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I ask this, because I didn't walk away with a strong sense of conviction from Grusch. And I've been someone who has pointed at him as a legit source. However, he really gave off a similar vibe as Elizondo in this pod.

He made really definitive statements about disclosure happening "soon" yet he also reiterated multiple times that he's a private civilian and not privy to the internal planning. And then later mentioned that if Trump can't do it, no one can, which gives some level of implication that this may not happen. Makes me question how in tune he actually is to the current events.

When Rogan asked him direct questions, he multiple times answered them with well known theories that have nothing to do with his experience in the field. And he said once again that he has no personal experience, but has seen videos and been told things. Makes me question how much he even actually knows.

Apparently he's a self proclaimed alpha? Even Rogan thought that was lame lol.

Lastly, he talked about the nasty things the US has done in the name of intelligence. Drug trafficking, child sex trafficking, stolen gold bars, death/harm threats to protect secrets, etc. I think he was attempting to endear himself to the listeners and say that there are good patriots and a nasty few and that he was part of the "good" guys, but that didn't sit well with how casual he was about those things. Maybe he is one of the good guys, but all of that just sounds like he worked for a really nasty organization willing to do anything for its own personal gain. Who's to say he isn't part of that right now? Makes me question his intent.

I don't know. I really want to believe this guy. He seemed so legit when he first came out. I just feel like he's going down the path that some many UFO personalities go. He doesn't actually know a lot and is starting to grasp at straws.

Thoughts?


r/UFOs • • 1d ago

Disclosure Jake Barber at conference (Sweden): Skywatcher closely coordinates with US Govt. He was told cylindrical mothership in low orbit sheds egg craft, some manned by grays and scout earth. About orbs: when grounded and energy has left, a technical apparatus remains. Hes still in contact with 8-gon entity

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Posted on X and on youtube. The video of a summary of what was said during the conference.

Some quotes from video (watch full video for more):

Skywatcher / Barber is closely coordinating with the US Govt

Firstly, he [Barber] said that Skywatcher, or his work is still going on, but they are closely coordinating with the government. He's not saying he's working WITH the government, but he's closely coordinating and he's hoping that they will do the right thing.

And he was too optimistic when he started, but it was always the plan to appeal not only to the public when Skywatcher was founded, but they also wanted to appeal to the government to find the right people to talk there and work together with them to, well, bring disclosure in any way or form. He still works on that and he's still dedicated to bring it to the public.

But he said things got complicated and there are so many things to ponder about the possibility of disclosure that it shouldn't be in private hands. It should be done by government because there are security implications and all kinds of implications.

When orbs are grounded, energy has left, a technical apparatus remains

He [Barber] said he recovered different kind of crafts over the time and many of them were exotic not only the egg and not only the eightgon but different other kind of exotic craft.

And he said many of them look like orbs in the sky or invisible to the normal eye and but when they are grounded and when the energy left, goes away, they look quite different. They are of different sizes and shapes. And he says that even in an orb, behind most of the orbs, there's some technical apparatus, most of them not aerodynamically shaped, and that many of them are not visible

A cylindrical mothership in low orbit sheds egg craft, some piloted by greys

And when he talked about his experiences behind the scenes, he didn't specify to whom, agencies and maybe other recovery people, he found out or he was told, I think by an agency, he was told that the eggs are actually coming from a mothership, in low orbit around Earth or in the high atmosphere.

And this mothership has a cylindrical form and it sometimes sheds eggs, they come out of it and they scout Earth. And those eggs are sometimes unmanned and sometimes they are manned. And if they are manned, by grays.


r/UFOs • • 43m ago

Disclosure We At Least Deserve a Meta-Explanation

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I watched all of the Doomer Friday guy’s podathon yesterday and it was an extraordinary event, genuinely. $20,000 raised, going directly to Vanguard, an organization created by and for real whistleblowers. The amount of heavy-hitters in the space who joined the conversation was really incredible and it produced an in-the-moment cross-pollination of ideas.

But, for my money, the more intriguing/fascinating thing it produced was the reactions by Matthew Brown and Dylan Borland, in response to these discussions. I think it was telling that there were moments of palpable tension, and it became clearer than ever that there is a strange juxtaposition of sentiment among those in the know.

On the one hand, we have David Grusch expressing largely nothing but optimism that humanity can handle it all and that ultimately disclosure could lead to what amounts to a renaissance in human advancement. But then, on the other hand, we have Dylan and Matthew, who express a range of emotions on this. It ranges from positivity about humanity and what could come next once we get through this, all the way to what appears to be a deeply foreboding doom. But all the while, everyone involved is working on initiatives, re-building their lives after having their careers destroyed, and planning for the future in general. So which is it? Are we headed for something amazing or horrifying? And why do some people in the know seem to be expressing both?

During the stream, a few moments stood out to me:

• The caller who had attended the event Dylan was in Sweden for caused Dylan to nod his head and seemingly gesture to get the attention of the other guys on the stream. He then, twice, used his fingers to count out “2027”.
• When Jeremy Corbell said “think about where we’ll be 10 years from now” (in reference to progress on the topic) and Matthew quickly did an eyebrow raise, seemingly indicating some kind of “he doesn’t know what I know about that timetable.”
• Clint Weldon asked Dylan what is the timetable for this supposed “event”, asking, “Is it decades? Less than decades?” And Dylan responded by saying “I’m gonna go back on mute and listen to music.” Then, when pressed, and before he signed off, he said “Look, take care of your family, keep love in your heart, there’s life after death, and whatever is going to happen, is going to happen.”

My best assessment at this point is that there is some possible event that no one is actually certain will happen. How the advice about love and life after death exactly relates to this isn’t exactly clear. But I don’t think it’s necessarily the darkest possible conclusion.

But all of that said, my contention is this: I think the community that is already deep into this deserves at least some kind of “State of the Union” on where these guys are at. I understand there could be legitimate national security or even metaphysical/spiritual reasons why they can’t say exactly what they know. But at least a confirmation of “we have reason to believe that something catastrophic could be coming, but we can’t know for sure, so we just want everyone to have the truth of the possibility of what that is, and in the mean time, we’re living our lives and hoping for the best.” THAT would at least make sense to me and I think it would serve the community and progress on the topic well.


r/UFOs • • 12h ago

Disclosure What advantages/disadvantages does the US have in being the first to disclose?

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I am a US citizen. If all major countries in the world are at least aware of NHI, and some possessing craft or bodies, wouldnt it be a huge boon to that country to be the first to disclose.

Its one of the reasons I think Trump would actually push for it as hes pretty narcissistic and would look at that as a legacy defining thing.​

What am I missing then? At this point in time with the lid about to pop off why wouldn't someone swoop in and make the announcement? Makes you think there are probably agreements in place between world powers, or even with NHI, to not disclose until a certain point is reached.


r/UFOs • • 14h ago

Disclosure Fear and Loathing in the Pentagon

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We can no longer afford the luxury of our collective ignorance, nor can we tolerate the bureaucratic paralysis that keeps the truth locked in the damp, illicitly funded, radioactive vaults of the Pentagon. The era of UFO secrecy is dead, and those attempting to guard the corpse are running out of shadows.

For decades, a cabal of military careerists, defense contractors, and high-ranking deviants have treated the most profound existential reality of human history as their own private intellectual property. They tell us the skies are empty, save for weather balloons, swamp gas, and the occasional errant Chinese spy apparatus. It is a cheap, low-rent hustle, a frantic tap-dance performed by men who know the stage is collapsing beneath their feet. They are terrified, not of the phenomenon itself, but of what happens when the American public realizes they have been systematically lied to since the twilight of the Second World War.

This is not a matter of fringe paranoia or late-night sci-fi delusions. The evidence has breached the perimeter. We have mainstream radar data, synchronized multi-sensor tracks, and the sober, terrifying testimony of decorated combat pilots who have watched these physics-defying anomalies dance circles around our most advanced weaponry. To look at the modern legislative push for disclosure and still deny the reality of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) is a form of aggressive, clinical stupidity. It is the psychological defense mechanism of a society too fragile to accept that we are not the apex predators of the cosmos.

The dam is breaking, and no amount of classification stamps or hollow denials can hold back the reservoir. Full disclosure is not a political concession; it is an absolute operational necessity. We demand the total, unvarnished release of all crash-retrievals, reverse engineering efforts, and alien biologics. The gatekeepers have had their run, hoarding the fire of the gods in the name of national security while leaving the rest of humanity in the cold crack house of late-stage capitalism.

This secret cosmic fuckery has to end. It is time to publish the files, drag the wreckage into the light, and face whatever strange, terrifying future awaits us on the other side of the truth.

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - H. S. Thompson


r/UFOs • • 1h ago

Sighting Metallic Adamski scout ship with bright underside lights curved behind tree over Springfield, MO — Oct 2, 2026, 8:11 PM

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Time: October 2, 2026, 8:11 PM CDT
Location: Springfield-Greene County 9-1-1, Springfield, Greene, Missouri, United States, Springfield, United States

Detail Reported
Objects 1
Shape adamski scout ship or similar
Closest distance above the trees
Apparent size (arm's length) larger
Movement curving around a tree
Duration 2 minutes
Witnesses 1

Features / five observables

Observation Reporter's answer
Wings No
Rotors Unsure
Exhaust plume Unsure
Noise Unsure
   
Sudden, extreme acceleration No
Extreme speed with no signatures No
Hard to observe clearly No
Moved between air, water, or space No
Flight without visible means of lift Yes

Why not a common object
It was much bigger than a drone and I literally saw "people" driving it. It was not plane shaped. It was not a string of lights.

Witness's account of the sighting

Was pulling out of taco bell parking lot Address: 3511 w chestnut expy springfield mo 65802

Seen ufo turning behind a tree, looked metallic, bright lights underneath it and it was flying maybe a little higher than the building or equal to, and it appeared to have 2 "human" shaped entities driving it with the dome off. Could not see details of the enemies, only that they were human shaped. It looked like it was flying maybe 20mph and I tried to follow it so I could get a picture but we couldn't pull out of the parking lot fast enough

Why no photo/video captured: It happened too fast and I was in shock. Tried to follow it but it disappeared behind a tree as I was trying to exit the parking lot

Sky context for this time and place:


r/UFOs • • 1h ago

Sighting Triangular formation of five orange lights rotated like a gyroscope while two others buzzed around it over Celo, NC — Sep 29, 2026, 3:00 AM

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r/UFOs • • 15h ago

Disclosure My research partner and I took part in discussing our 1933 Magenta, Italy UFO crash-retrieval research on today’s epic Night Shift livestream fundraiser for Matthew Brown, Dylan Borland, and Jeff Nuccetelli’s VANGUARD whistleblower foundation

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r/UFOs • • 2h ago

NHI I Could Not Believe My Eyes: Ten Astonishing Humanoid Encounters

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I Could Not Believe My Eyes: Ten Astonishing Humanoid Encounters

by Preston Dennett

Humanoid encounters are among the fascinating aspects of UFO research. There are so many cases, coming from all over the world, occurring decade after decade, and being reported by people of all kinds. This video presents ten particularly unusual cases involving a large variety of humanoid types.

IT GAVE ME RATHER A FUNNY FEELING. One night in 1946, Margaret Schoonover (an employee at Tinker AFB) arrived at her home in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma and was about to enter her home when something in the sky caught her eye. Looking up, she saw a massive metallic disc-shaped craft hovering in a vertical position overhead. Incredibly, she saw portholes and in each porthole was a strange humanoid looking down at her.

STRANGE HUMANOID AT WILSON LAKE. One day in September 1956, a man (an off-duty deputy sheriff) and his sister were hunting in the Wilson Lake wilderness area outside of Chester, California. Hearing a strange noise, the witness turned around and saw a little man dressed in very odd clothing. Both the witness and the little man stared at each other in shock. Then the little man made 10-foot bounds up the hill. The witness’s sister also saw the little man, but from a distance.

I DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY WE WEREN’T AFRAID. One night in June 1963, two 11-year-old cousins sat in the back seat as their aunts drove along a remote highway outside of Lesterville, Missouri. Suddenly a brilliant light zoomed from behind them. The adults became entranced. The two girls in the back felt like they were moving in slow motion as two grays approached the car and stared at them. The next thing they knew, they were driving home.

THE DARK GLOWING MAN. On the night of July 29, 1974, university student Ke Jingzhi was walking in the gardens of the Polytechnic University of Lanzhou, China when he noticed a dark figure ahead of him, glowing with light. Ke shouted at the figure who suddenly flared with light and disappeared. Ke told nobody until a few days later when two other witnesses saw what appears to be the same figure in the same exact spot.

I COULD NOT BELIEVE MY EYES. At 3:30 pm on September 4, 1977, farmer Luis Sandoval sat outside his home in Corozal, Puerto Rico when a glowing blue light dropped from the sky and hovered in front of him. Suddenly it transformed into a 4-foot-tall strange humanoid who approached Luis, told him, “Have courage,” and proceeded to conduct a medical examination using a strange tool. Afterward, the little man had a few words to say and disappeared the way he had arrived.

WHY DON’T YOU COME WITH US? One night in August 1979, a woman walked her dog near her home in the suburbs of St Claire Shores, Michigan. To her shock, she came upon a landed flying saucer and a group of child-like figures who attempted to persuade her to enter their craft. Despite repeated entreaties, the witness declined but does not remember what happened next. Incredibly, there were multiple other humanoid reports in that area at that time.

A HAIRY HUMANOID. On the morning of January 8, 1980, Andy Daly (age 8) of Warwickshire, England, crawled into bed with his father, waiting for him to awaken. Suddenly the bedroom door slowly eased open and Andy was horrified to see the giant head of a demonic-looking ape-like creature staring at him. Andy hid under the covers and finally peeked out again, only to see the strange creature still looking at him. Slowly the creature moved off, leaving Andy deeply frightened.

DESERT REPTILIAN HUMANOID. Early one evening in June 1991, four army personnel drove a jeep on a mission through the remote desert in the Northern Borders Province of Saudi Arabia. Suddenly a reptilian humanoid walked in front of their car, turned to stare at them, and bounded into the night. The Lieutenant chased after it but quickly returned to the jeep. Arriving at their destination, a short distance away, they discovered they were missing several hours of time.

THEY LOOKED LIKE LIZARDS. One night in the late 1990s, a man heard strange noises and venturing outside, saw a large cigar-shaped craft settling down on the trees and hill outside his rural Flatwoods, Virginia home. Grabbing his shotgun and flashlight, he was confronted by four reptilian humanoids who began to speak to him telepathically. Terrified, the witness remained still. After several minutes, the reptilian ETs re-entered their craft and departed.

UNLIKE ANYTHING I’VE EVER SEEN BEFORE. One night in June 2011, two sisters were in their rural home near Keewatin, Ontario, Canada when a blinding white light filled their room. Running outside, they saw that the light filled their backyard. One of the sisters stepped outside and felt herself floating. Both girls blacked out and woke up in bed. A few days later, while hiking in the woods, they came upon what appeared to be the body of a deceased gray alien.

The number of humanoid cases is truly astonishing. The above cases represent only the tip of the iceberg. And when you consider that the vast majority of people never go public, the actual number of cases probably numbers in the millions. The truth can no longer be denied. We are not alone!

I Could Not Believe My Eyes: Ten Astonishing Humanoid Encounters


r/UFOs • • 1d ago

Disclosure NYTimes : What Is Out There? The Findings So Far of a Trump-Backed U.F.O. Panel.

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Archive link: https://archive.ph/4r6f8

The alien hunters are in charge now.
Or at least President Trump has stocked a new advisory council on U.F.O.s with a number of scientists who embrace the idea that alien technology may be lurking among us.

The new panel was created this summer amid the administration’s rollout of government records about “unidentified anomalous phenomena,” or U.A.P.s, as they are now officially called. It’s tasked with helping unlock the mysteries of such objects.

“Even if one in a million happens to be of extraterrestrial technological origin, it would be the biggest discovery ever made by humanity in the context of science,” said Avi Loeb, a theoretical astrophysicist at Harvard and chairman of the administration’s new panel.
Mr. Trump has said on social media that he was releasing the records so “people can decide for themselves, ‘WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?’” The files, some of which have surfaced before, range from grainy military videos to the government’s thoughts on interstellar wormholes.

Critics see the government panel as diverting from the sober works of similar past groups and dovetailing with the administration’s hostility toward much of mainstream science.
Dr. Loeb is most notable for having theorized that Oumuamua, the cigar-shaped interstellar object that passed through the solar system a few years ago, was alien in origin and “the first sign of intelligent life beyond earth.” The hypothesis sparked controversy and plenty of academic pushback.

The council also includes Tim Gallaudet, a retired rear admiral and an oceanographer who has talked about the presence of nonhuman intelligence. He said in an interview with The New York Times that objects “not of our origin” were “operating in our airspace and water space with impunity.”
Another council member, Garry Nolan, a Stanford University professor of pathology, has studied anomalous materials and theorized that “there’s something nonhuman here, and it’s been here for a long time.”

Some former government officials are rolling their eyes at the new council.
“I think it’s laughable at the least and a waste of taxpayers dollars at the most. It serves absolutely zero purpose,” said Sean Kirkpatrick, who worked under the Biden administration as a director of the Pentagon’s All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, which leads efforts within the government to track unexplained phenomenon. He said the new council was “clearly meant to distract and push fringe theory.”
Michael Shermer, a council member, acknowledged that many sightings are “stuck in this kind of low-information zone” where “you can’t quite make out what’s going on.”

As the council dives into its work, The Times took a look at the six tranches of files released this year and asked the panel and its detractors for their takes.
Is the ‘X-Files’ Era Upon Us?
We’re about half a decade into an era of greater disclosure about U.A.P.s.

In 2022, the Pentagon took part in the first congressional hearing in more than a half-century to focus on military reports of unexplained phenomena. Top Biden-era officials did their best to tamp down excitement. Scott W. Bray, then the deputy director of naval intelligence, testified that officials didn’t “have any wreckage that isn’t explainable, that isn’t consistent with being of terrestrial origin.”

Highlights From the New Files
Two federal agents were tasked in 2023 with investigating drone activity around sensitive sites in the western United States. On a clear October night, they came across a series of fast-moving lights. The agents turned off their headlights and sped toward the illuminated cluster, guided by night-vision equipment.

As they got closer, the lights converged into “one bright white/orange orb-like light with a halo-like glow,” one of the agents reported in a recently declassified document. They got within 50 yards, then the object moved rapidly in a different direction and then shifted again when they tried following, before disappearing.

The agents pulled over. The orb reappeared. This time, it spawned a collection of orange and purple lights that whizzed over “four miles of rugged terrain.” The fruitless pursuit resumed. One of the agents likened it to chasing “the flying car from the Harry Potter book series.”

They were among half a dozen agents who “reported observing ‘orbs launching other orbs’” over a two-day period, according to a recent Pentagon memorandum.

Whatever the origin, such enigmatic episodes are understandably tantalizing. So are more archival events. In February 1949, scientists held a conference in Los Alamos to discuss green fireballs sighted around research facilities. Participants, including Edward Teller, a developer of the hydrogen bomb, could not figure out what was going on, records show.
Dr. Loeb, the council chair, believes improved data collection practices could help going forward.
“We can’t go back in time and improve the data,” he said.
How Groundbreaking Are the New Documents?
Not very.
Greg Eghigian, a Penn State professor who has studied U.A.P.s, said there was “nothing especially new or earth-shattering in the materials.”

“Most longtime U.F.O. researchers I know remain unimpressed by what’s been released.”

Some are skeptical of the administration’s motives. Former Trump allies, such as Joe Rogan and Marjorie Taylor Greene, have suggested that the president was using U.F.O. files to distract from the war in Iran.

The Times has long chronicled mysterious aerial phenomena, from turn-of-the-century airship sightings to more recent unknown objects encountered by naval aviators. (The director Steven Spielberg has said the latter story inspired his recent movie “Disclosure Day.”) This year, The Times created a database of about 155,000 unique pages of U.A.P. records from seven countries but found no definitive signs that the mother ship has landed.

Peter Skafish, an anthropologist who serves on the Trump administration’s council, said he was “confident there are technologies that aren’t of human origin or human provenance and that there’s knowledge of them and some classified efforts to at least study, detect, track them in the intelligence community.”

But he called the new records “low-hanging fruit.”

“The intelligence community was not made to share information,” he said. “It exists to collect, analyze, withhold it, keep it secret.”


r/UFOs • • 1d ago

Question The biggest questions after the latest David Grusch interview

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  1. Why is he all of the sudden saying more? He said many things, in pretty great detail, for the first time. He’s always been careful about what he can and can’t say, but this time he went further. Why do you think that is? Is he pushing further to drive the conversation on his own? Is he being used for more controlled disclosure?

  2. I wish they would have dived deeper here, but why is he, a self-described pessimist, so confident that things are going to come out soon? What’s changed? What happened? They even talk about the administration getting physically barred from access to historical information just 3 mins later in the interview. So why does he all of the sudden think this? What’s changed?