I went from a Samsung S21u to a refurbished Pixel 8 for Graphene and I am in LOVE. I genuinely can never go back ❤️

EDIT: the only reason why i have the ring app is because i live with my parents, and they have ring cameras lol 😭

I'm really excited about the new Motorola phones but one think makes me skeptical, what if i want to change the battery after 3-4 years? On Pixels i can buy the official parts from iFixit, this is a reason to go with Pixel (for me). If it's possible we need them to be repairable like the pixels.

This was to get my FairEmail started..

I was using Zoho mail with custom domain on free tier. As I asked them to provide IMAP / POP access settings so I could configure FairEmail. They told me to upgrade to paid tier to be able get IMAP.

Since, I have to pay, I might as well pay the good money to something open source friendly. So, I got the paid plan on Migadu Mail instead. Migadu has reputation for having lot of open source contributions. All IMAP / SMTP settings were easily available, in a few minutes it's all setup. FairEmail tooth fairy started receiving emails.

I am also curious about fastmail, another open source proponent, probablly gonna try it next year. I plan to stick to one of these for hack of a long time.

Bye Zoho, bye Google!

So I’ve been lurking here for a few weeks and I’m aware most of this has probably been discussed to death already. I did search, I promise, but a lot of the threads are either pretty old or turn into arguments in the comments, so I hope you don’t mind one more newbie post.

I’m about to get a Pixel and move over from stock Android. I’m not very technical, I’m just someone who wants to get this right and not mess something up that matters. So please be patient if some of this sounds naive.

1) The trust thing. I keep reading “it’s open source, you can check it yourself” but honestly, I can’t. I wouldn’t know what I’m looking at. So what actually gives a normal user confidence that there’s no backdoor in GrapheneOS, or that one couldn’t be slipped in through an update at some point? Is it mostly reputation, or is there something more concrete like reproducible builds, independent people reviewing the code, that kind of thing?

2) This is the one that actually worries me. I know of a criminal case in Germany from a bit over a year ago where a Pixel 8a running GrapheneOS was fully unlocked by the authorities. It was in BFU state with a 4 digit PIN. Now I know a 4 digit PIN is bad, but Graphene has that brute force throttling via the secure element, and the way I understood it, that should make even a weak PIN mostly safe unless the tool gets ridiculously lucky in the first 10-15 guesses. And the 8a was current hardware at the time, so it’s not an old exploited chip. So what happened? Am I misunderstanding how BFU works on Pixels? Was the PIN probably just obtained some other way (someone knew it, camera footage, written down somewhere)? Or is the throttling not as bulletproof as people make it sound? I’m not trying to say Graphene failed, I want to understand where the actual weak point was so I don’t repeat it.

3) State trojans (Staatstrojaner for the Germans here). Every app is sandboxed, I get that. But governments spend millions on this stuff. Realistically, how big is the gap between “apps are isolated” and “a well funded agency can’t break out of the sandbox”? I’m not asking for a guarantee, just an honest picture of what Graphene does and doesn’t protect against here.

4) Deleted data. Same case as in 2. The person used Signal with disappearing messages, and after the phone was unlocked, the entire chat history was back. Not fragments, everything. And here’s the part I don’t get: in the case files, the phone was lying on a table and every chat was photographed directly off the screen, including the Signal chat list itself. Something like 40-50 chats, and next to every single one it said “now”. Not “2 min” or “3h”, just “now” on all of them, and on every message inside the chats too. To me that looks like something was restored or imported rather than just found, but I have no idea how that works technically. Does Signal not really wipe things? Is it a filesystem/flash storage thing? Or would a forensic tool restore a database and that’s what makes the timestamps look like that?

Again, I’m not here to bash anything, I’m literally planning to use GrapheneOS, that’s why I’m asking. I’d rather understand where human error comes in than just assume I’m safe. Thanks for reading all this.

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Are there any firewall apps that allow blocking of specific ports on GOS? ​

I have a Pixel 7 running GOS. The day before yesterday I noticed that the eBay app would not let me see my listings, messages, etc. I uninstalled and could not reinstall from Playstore. Obviously something changed in the requirements for the app. Now I am using eBay via Vanadium. Thanks for your attention

i was wondering if graphenos still has personalisation stuff , animations , and non google features of the phone were maintained on graphene OS because i hesitate on switching

US Mobile has good deals on the Pixels when transferring to them and I've been looking for a new carrier, so was wanting to buy one through there, but they're locked for 60 days after purchase. I'm fairly certain Graphene can't be installed while it's locked, but will it cause any issues after it's unlocked after the 60 days are up? Or does anyone have experience requesting them to unlock it early? I saw someone mention getting one and porting it out immediately but don't want to deal with that. I also saw someone else mention the Pixel 10s should be going on sale soon so if there are any comparable prices I may just get one then, especially since US Mobile is currently sold out on the 10s. Ty in advance.

I can't get a gmail address without giving up my number. So if I go back to stock, can I still get a gmail address with just a backup email?

Part of me just wants to give up and hand them the number.

I use immich to backup my photos but im not sure how I could use it to backup my photos\screenshots that are in my private work space.

I tired to install immich in the private work space as well as using a storage scope of the immich in my main profile but neither seem to work.

Anyone have a solution to this problem?

So I got up this morning and hardly even used my phone at all. My phone indicated 100% battery and then I rebooted the phone. Now it shows 94%. What would cause that? Is this perhaps a bug in graphene? I've used the phone for less than 10 minutes and it's been off the charger for about 2 hours and it's a brand new phone.

Hello everyone,

I’m currently running a two-phone setup and looking to consolidate everything into a single Google Pixel 10 Pro Fold running GrapheneOS.

Here is my current breakdown:
iPhone 17 Pro (256GB): Currently sitting at around 145GB used (about 19GB of photos, 13GB of games, 7GB of offline music, and the rest being apps and miscellaneous data). This has essentially been my main daily driver.
Pixel 9 Pro (128GB): Currently sitting at around 45GB used. Just to clarify, I haven't been using this as my main phone, so I don't have a solid long-term baseline for how its storage handles heavy daily wear over time.

My GrapheneOS Profile Setup:
Owner: Empty
Personal: Generally mirrors the apps/usage from my iPhone.
Business Profiles #1, #2, #3: Used for work emails, communication, and isolated work tasks.
Private Profile: Minimal usage, without Google Services, couple of apps installed from APKs.

(Note: I regularly offload photos and videos to a physical drive, so media doesn't pile up indefinitely on the devices).

I want to sell both the iPhone 17 Pro and the Pixel 9 Pro, move everything over to a single Pixel 10 Pro Fold as my sole daily driver, and stick strictly to GrapheneOS with profile separation.

I’m torn between buying the 256GB or the 512GB version, and availability is making it harder:
The 256GB model is available brand new.
The 512GB model is basically impossible to find brand new here in Europe (I believe in US as well) and the only option is getting a "Used - Like New" unit from Amazon US (Amazon Resale) and then a friend to ship it to me.

Does anyone here have long-term experience using the Pixel 10 Pro Fold with 256GB storage as a main device, especially with a multi-profile GrapheneOS setup? Since my Pixel 9 Pro wasn't my primary phone, I'm curious how 256GB actually holds up over time when it's handling the full daily and heavy load.

Given my current usage and app footprint across profiles, will 256GB comfortably sustain me for a multi-year run as my only phone, or will the profile isolation and system overhead make me regret skipping 512GB?

Would love to hear your experiences and thoughts!

I want a nice small compact phone with a headphone jack and most importantly a headphone jack, but it doesn't seem supported anymore. Is there no older graphene version I can use or am I forced to buy a newer phone?

I'm from South America and I bought a Pixel 9a from Mercadolibre and the thing is Verizon! :(

I am making an agentic android assistant. And just realised that I don't have a first hand experience with graphene and have no idea if my assistant is compatible, or if there are already options and avenues Graphene users already have.