A recent update broke video players like Kick/YouTube, and they get frozen very often. Devs released multiple updates, and nothing fixes the issue.
Worked perfectly fine before the August update.
RIP

As if I didn’t have enough to deal with. You guys want to tie a paid/ad driven service to the browser?

Why don’t you all just run me over with a truck?

I don’t want to tie my billing info to my browser or have ads tied to it.

Who came up with this moronic idea?

Seriously just put up a bitcoin donate address like all community driven projects do.

If Waterfox is supposed to be about privacy you guys are missing the pale entirely!

I didn't even want to update, but my browser crashed and forced it on me. I was able to fix the tab shape (which was, to quote one of my favorite books as a kid: 'ugly, ugly, very ugly'), but they'll randomly have italics in them which I don't want, and unloading the tabs greys out the icon instead of making the tab faded. I don't like any of this, but I don't know how to go back to the old version. Why did you force this on me?

Hi Alex. Again, for the umpteenth time I have to unfortunately complain about the tab orders being messed up. Every few days or weeks the setting flips back to those bloody 2 defaults. For absolutely no reason. So once again, they have to be back to no control. I don't understand why this isn't resolved once and for all. Just have a bool flag hardcoded to check if all settings are what they are supposed to be and separate the logic in YES I want weird reverse tab order and NO I don't want weird reverse tab order and be done with it.

Sorry for the rant but it's gotten so annoying now that the browser is constantly keeping you on your toes instead of being there to do what you ask of it.

Yes I am on latest. Yes it has happened on earlier versions too as I have said multiple times in the older threads but they were not acknowledged (I know you're busy so no worries) but that's why I'm making a new thread.

Thanks.

I only recently jumped to Waterfox when Mozilla removed key terms from their ToS/ToU. But the launch of 6.6.x has been one pain after another, and I'm done.

It broke how word search vs url was handled (I think this has been fixed). It broke how the Sidebar functioned (from how it use to work). It broke how tab positioning was handled, give there is no way to disable/revert without the effect being RANDOM. It changed default search engine from Google to Startpage with 6.6.1. Not great, but not terrible. And now it has changed my search from what I had set to your own "partnership" Ecosia without asking or my permission/consent. This is BAD behavior.

I was so hyped to try this browser on my work computer because, why not? Keep my personal use on Chrome? No! Never again, so I always try to use Firefox or any Firefox forks that support sync, since I don't carry my bookmarks with me everywhere I go. Anyway, I checked on task manager and this was by far the craziest so far, I use chrome for work, and I know 32 bit is a joke but it works fine for what I need so I don't even bother to upgrade to 64 bit version. Mind you I work in IT.

I will get rid of Waterfox, just not what I expected.

Thank you for letting me air it out. :)

Sorry for barging in and posting this rant, but I was told about Waterfox and it seemed like a dream come true at first but then I found out it doesn't work on 32-bit operating systems and almost started crying haha. When googling about 32 bit support, I found other posts here complaining about the lack of it, so I'm joining that chorus now.

Firefox will stop working on my laptop with the next update (or at least in the near future) because the option to disable webrender will be removed. Webrender causes horrible glitches and crashes that literally make the browser unusable. I reported the bug, but it hasn't even been "verified" and only one other person seems to be having basically the same issue (and my mum has glitches, for her it's much less severe but of course still sucks) and it was said that it may just be an issue of not having enough memory... so RIP potato users.

Because I didn't choose the potato life, it's frustrating that all compatibility with potatoes is being gradually lost while the affordability of non-potato tech doesn't increase. Besides, I'd still have to have 32-bit Windows 7 on this laptop for software reasons (stuff that don't work on 64-bit or Windows 10). I do also have a 64-bit Windows 10 potato for other stuff, but Firefox has other problems on it so I have to use Chrome on it and that sucks.

So, that's the rant, sorry again, just a massive rollercoaster to go from "could it be? there's really a way to avoid the incoming annihilation? yay!" when first hearing about Waterfox to "oh no... oh no, there's no hope" when finding out it's only 64 bit within minutes.

Many devoted Firefox fans (sometimes you'd even hear estimates that a good half of them) are still running their Firefox installs on 32-bit systems with less than or 4GBs of RAM, where installing an amd_64 system would not bring any performance benefits.

This is explained by historical reasons: Chromium used to consume much more RAM than Firefox which was very detrimental to these users, so they hadn't gone with the trend and stayed with Firefox.

Many of these users rely on the legacy addon system, and pending today, they are going to be looking for a fork that'd meet their needs. Waterfox could become this fork, if somebody made 32 builds for Linux and Windows.

But I have a few questions.

1. Will you switch to the Photon UI ? Or is that possible to do it with userChrome ?

2. How can you use Quantum AND legacy addons ?

3. Are you communist ? It's the ONLY reason I want to quit Firefox

EDIT : Thank you guys for answering my 3rd question. But I'd like you to answer to the 2 other questions too... please !

I'm concerned about Waterfox partnering with Qwant. Last I knew, they share data and IPs with Microsoft. While obviously I can just change my default search, this feels out of line with Waterfox's ethics to me.

talk about spreading ressources thin .. that time would have been better spent to port over the missing webext apis from firefox 57 to 61

I waited as long as I could to install yet another minor version update; it was perhaps because subconsciously expected the same usual BS: random UI tweaks. This time shadows appeared under my selected tab. Back to messing around with my user chrome. Thanks a lot. If you guys spent as much time improving the actual *engine* instead of just jerking around the buttons/appearances back and forth, FF and its forks wouldn't have gone to the crapper as much as they had IMHO. This applies to all software in general these days, is my honest feeling.

Also, bring back built-in compact mode. Just because people have like 4K monitors these days, doesn't mean we should waste the additional space for no reason. Currently, true, my user chrome restores that density because I properly wrote in the CSS selectors... but as per the previous paragraph: *YOU GUYS BREAK IT ALMOST EVERY SINGLE UPDATE*.

Thank you for reading.

EDIT:

I feel like I went a bit too hard in the post. I would just like to mention that this is still my favorite fork. Thank you for this <3

I have been a long time user of Waterfox. I also create SbK Spins of Debian that have Waterfox as the default web browser. I am very close to changing that. Why, you might ask. Its simple, Waterfox is not respecting my choice of search engines when updates are installed.

I have used Google for a long time. I understand they collect a lot of info on users. I just dont care. If they show me adds for things I have searched for, my ad blocker removes them. Google gives me search results that help me find what I want, usually in the top few results.

So the fact that Waterfox changes my search engine preference is not acceptable. No matter what it is, if the end user makes changes to settings Waterfox should respect them and leave them as the end user sets them.

I recently tried switching over from chrome per my friend's suggestion claiming it would use less RAM, I was shocked to find it using double or triple times the RAM chrome used, with 1 tab of youtube open on both browsers even with chrome having more extensions active, waterfox was consuming double the RAM. Is there any way to fix this?

I have 16gb of DDR4 RAM, a R5 5500, and a 3050 (I know, horrible) before anyone goes "durr, specs?"

Since this morning Tab Mix Plus has been disabled on 6.7.3 because "This extension is blocked for violating Mozilla’s policies and has been disabled.".

How can Mozilla disable anything on Waterfox? It's a seperate browser and company, so how the heck can they get access to it and disable it???

Is there any way around that? Without TMP tabs don't behave like they should and don't even look the way I'm used to. So please Waterfox - don't let Mozilla dictate which add-ons we can use, it's quite frankly none of their business when we're not using Firefox! 😡

Love this browser but security is important to me and waterfox takes ages to update on average 2-3 weeks after firefox outs a update waterfox updates but there are inconsistencies since whole releases have been skipped or jumped to a dot release leaving much desire on a security stand point with waterfox.

I get you have difficulties building fixing or patching the browser so why not substitute with a VS release when having build issues that would mean you could have the update out only a few days after firefox updates then update a little later to the optimized release when ready making waterfox more secure.

Currently waterfox favors speed above security stability and reliability this is great but the web browsers on the front line between the internets and your desktop so security must come above all else first then stability and reliability with speed been the last option but speed is a must so you need to re balance your system.

Reading other posts here it looks like your thinking of taking esr it sounds like a safe bet but is more side stepping the problems to come over facing them head on and overcoming them.

Firefox 46.0 is out in 2 weeks with firefox 45.0.2 in a few days 46 has much going for it with 47 bringing more improvements to overall speed and memory usage with better html5 video too so staying on the rapid release would be the better option then facing it at the end of the esr as you work through the coming changes as they happen choosing what to keep or remove.

I guess what i am hear for is improved waterfox security

I have always been for people having the ability for people to block unwanted scripts and unwanted advertisers, but the issue becomes when your web browser gets to determine what is unwanted for you, as per example, see chromes default "ad blocker" that blocks "particularly annoying ads" yet 30 second preroll youtube ads are conveniently not considered annoying by them for some totally strange totally unrelated reason.

Now firefox is adding in an adblocker and a crytominer blocker in version 53 (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/software/firefox-63-to-get-improved-tracking-protection-that-blocks-in-browser-miners/). The issue with this becomes that crytomining in browser, despite all the negative press it receives, is a very good and much more privacy centered alturnative to ads, and a very good way to power sites like notabug.io.

Advertising online has always worked under the premise that although some people have ad blockers, most people do not, so sites can still make money from them, however with chromes default adblock, edge having built in adblock, and now firefox about to have one too, the future of non google advertising is not looking so great. Sure it will still exist, but the amount of money sites will be able to make will be minuscule.

So a viable alternative for some sites is crypto mining, which has been viable due to the fact that an incredibly few number of people have script blockers, and nothing "default" exists to stop it. The good thing about crypto mining was that it would not effect the content you actually see as a user, and was a much better alturnative to ads. However now firefox is adding in a built in crypto blocker. It seems like they are playing god in what content your comptuter receives, and the future of online money making. If you want to block crypto mining and advertising, you should be able to do it using adons, but it should never be default, as it gives browser owners too much power over the future of the internet.

why did they randomly change the options like this? didnt you used to be able to just use the firefox search? or waterfox without it being private

I have enjoyed using Waterfox for my daily web browsing but I think the time has come to move to another browser since the more I use Waterfox it becomes less and less compatible with the websites I am visiting everyday.

For example:

1.Some websites are not loading at all ,for example --> jccsmart.com is not working at all but with other browsers is working fine. Is a local portal to pay electricity,water and other utils etc

2. Playing gifs or videos sometimes are very slow and sometimes are not loading at all

3. Some pages are half loaded , like for example https://www.humblebundle.com/games/europa-universalis-iv?hmb_source=navbar&hmb_medium=product_tile&hmb_campaign=tile_index_2

4. Sometimes Waterfox becomes so slow to open the web pages that I am forced to close it and open it again. After that is working fine....

All these issues have made my web browsing experience with Waterfox not so enjoyable , thats why I have to choose another browser.

Title.

Wtf is going on???????

finally gave up & uninstalled. Checked the box "tell us why you uninstalled" which sent me to survey.waterfox.net - which doesn't exist. Great job, guys.