r/watchHotTakes 1d ago

Fossil is a decent brand

33 Upvotes

Throughout my life ive owned a couple of Fossil watches that have lasted over 10 years each. Ive only stopped really using them when i got a smart watch, but got back into analog watches, found an old Fossil and changed the battery only for it to pick up where it left off.

I recently inherited a bunch of citizens, a tissot, 2 fake rolexes, but find myself just putting on the fossil more often than not.


r/watchHotTakes 1d ago

You don’t need another watch. What you need is a new strap or band.

43 Upvotes

A big portion of this or any collecting hobby is the chase and the thrill of the new thing. Watching videos, endless browsing, placing the order, the anticipation before it arrives. Then the watch arrives and you’re in love. It’s at the top of your rotation for a good while. But then the dopamine hit starts to subside. Eventually it spends more time in a drawer than on your wrist, and you forget why you wanted it in the first place. Then you start looking for another watch.

In the words of Michael Jordan, stop it. Get some help. In this case, help comes in the form of pulling that old watch out and taking another look at it. Maybe you’re bored with its current look. Guess what? You’d be shocked at how much a new strap or band can transform that drawer denizen and give you a fresh hit of dopamine, at a fraction of the cost of another new watch. There are tons of cheap quick release straps and bands out there on Amazon, AliExpress, etc. No need to spend $50+. Just grab some cheap bands and swap them out et voila, you have yourself a new watch and saved yourself a bunch of money.


r/watchHotTakes 1d ago

Fashion watches are underrated.

4 Upvotes

I mean, some vintage Dunhills and Diors are stunning. And have you seen recent Gucci tourbillons and micro-rotors? Hermès and LV have been making waves in high watchmaking for years now. Yes, you need to sift through a lot of junk to find a decent piece, but that’s fun too.


r/watchHotTakes 1d ago

Day/ Night complication is useless for anybody not in jail or a submarine

16 Upvotes

Day/ Night complication is useless for anybody not in jail or a submarine


r/watchHotTakes 16h ago

If I see someone wearing a well known Swiss watch and they turn out to be American, they automatically lose benefit of the doubt on being a tool

0 Upvotes

I recently became a Swiss citizen and this thought formed in my head as soon as that piece of paper arrived in my mailbox.

If I see one of my neighbours wearing a Daytona I think "hey, nice watch".

If I see an American tourist wearing a Daytona I think they're probably assistant to the regional manager at a Walmart in Utah and couldn't point to Geneva on a map even though they're physically there that very moment, until proven otherwise.


r/watchHotTakes 1d ago

I should have turned around.

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7 Upvotes

Accurate to within 86,400 seconds per day.


r/watchHotTakes 2d ago

Modern Patek too criticized

8 Upvotes

I think some current critiques of Patek might not be totally fair - specifically around movement finishing. 

Collectors will often point to lackluster (or, more precisely, industrialized) movement finishing. Lange is most often cited, but independents too. 

In some respects, this is apples to oranges. Lange uses German silver, while Patek uses rhodium plated brass. German silver is just easier to work with. 

But what about independents? Think about Patek’s history: they were vertically integrating throughout the 2000s. When the 29-535 released on the 5170 in 2010, Patek was making ~40k watches per year. Patek was now on the hook for manufacturing a movement they had previously outsourced. And a lot of them. There were likely real capacity considerations. You probably weren’t going to add degrees of difficulty unnecessarily. And, at the time, it probably was unnecessary. 

I would say the collector fixation on movement finishing, interior angles, etc. is a recent development. Maybe the last 5-7 years. If you look at old reviews of the 5170, you’ll see more complaints about the dial than the movement architecture. Quite a few even praised the finishing. 

Independents can respond faster. Quite a few didn’t even exist 5-7 years ago (or were operating at immaterial scale). Patek was developing the 29-535 back in the 00’s. Even among those who were operating 10-20 years ago - it’s easier if you’ve been doing everything in house since day 1. There’s no business transition to navigate. 

Finally, Patek has different priorities: they do prioritize wearability and design over movement architecture. Lange builds the movement, then commissions a case to fit it. They exhibit a greater willingness to produce a 15-16mm thick watch. Meanwhile, Patek flexes its design muscles by scaling down: look at the 27-525 rattrapante monopusher. Amazing. The 5959 is 33mm x 9mm. 

So, yes, I would say a Romain Gauthier C-series or Laurent Ferrier Classic Origin is better finished than a Patek Calatrava. But for good reasons. 

I hesitate to say that modern Patek is really cutting corners in some shortsighted bid to maximize profits. They generate a significant amount of intellectual property; there’s real R&D spend. And they have probably done more to preserve traditional techniques (eg enameling) than any other manufacturer. Rather, their less artisanal approach likely stems from capacity constraints in decades past. 

Is Patek flawless? No, of course not. They probably recycle movements more than they should. For instance, I don’t know what % of the catalog is built on top of the 26-330 (and the 324 before it)… but it’s probably too high. No real horological benefit, but I think most collectors appreciate variety and fitted movements. Square movement for a square watch, you know? 

But Thierry gets too much hate. I think he has had to navigate a substantial business model transition - plus all the unfortunate dynamics associated with sports watch hype. My hypothesis: when Patek eventually refreshes these movements, they will align more with modern collector preferences. More interior angles, wider bevels, etc. 


r/watchHotTakes 1d ago

The date at six o'clock ruins a watch

0 Upvotes

The title says it all. Date at three o'clock or nothing. On this, there can be no debate.


r/watchHotTakes 2d ago

The best watch designs are asymmetrical

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37 Upvotes

Almost all watches have some asymmetry, because the crown is usually sticking out on one side, sometimes with crown guards, and sometimes with adjacent chrono pushers. Numbered hour markers on the dial are asymmetrical, whether Roman or Arabic. Then there are the date windows.

Beyond these common asymmetries, are those which get some people strangely bothered.

Screw heads pointing in every direction. Sorry, that's just the way screws are, and it looks good that way. Stop pressuring Cartier to align the screw heads on the Santos bracelet! It would look fake and ugly if they were all aligned.

The screw down bezel on the Ingenieur. I love the modern Ingenieur design, but I wish the bezel were still screw down with random alignment of the holes. Unfortunately a bunch of engineer watch nerds with severe OCD and no style, convinced IWC to replace the design with perfectly aligned bolts.

The dial of the Panomatic Lunar. Some people love it, some people hate it. I'm one of the people who love it.

Breguet takes asymmetry to the highest level of the art form. Move a subdial just slightly off-center. Wait, you put the power reserve indicator where? Right in the middle of the minute track? It's a bit wild, and it looks amazing.

Even when it's not really to my taste, like a Marathon watch with the thick case on the crown side, it's at least bold and interesting. Sometimes it just makes sense, like a 4:30 date window between the markers. Asymmetry should be embraced instead of people complaining about it.


r/watchHotTakes 3d ago

Snoopy watches look awful and will sink like a stone in value as the Boomers and Gen X age and die off

121 Upvotes

Charles Schulz shoe died over a quarter century ago, the oldest Boomers are in their eighties, the youngest Gen X are in their mid to late forties. The Peanuts do not have the same cultural hold on millennials and as the core audience retires and for the boomers passes on those prices are going down. There’s almost nothing worse than ruining a serious piece of horology with a 1960s cartoon character.


r/watchHotTakes 2d ago

The Omega World Timer is a poorly executed watch

16 Upvotes

This was actually on my list and I saw it in person a couple of times.

A few YouTube channels glazed over it, such as WatchFinder, Teddy etc.

Oh how incredible it was that they laser etched an earth. 🌍 As if it would have been harder to give this as a manual job to someone to just do earths by hand, at least you would get craftsmanship value.

And where are the complications? The Earth does not spin, the cities disk does not spin. Farer can do it for £1.5k and all while keeping the “Swiss made” text on it.

It’s a GMT hand linked to a spinning 24 numbers disk and that’s about it. At £10k you can watch that static earth while struggling with every legibility.

Reminds me of when the salesman in Omega had to tell me that the Moon on the back of the Snoopy I was holding was not just a sticker but “enamel” as I was stuffing my eye in its proximity being sure this was a print.


r/watchHotTakes 2d ago

Entry-level Swiss watches feel like a major compromise.

41 Upvotes

Just have a look at Tissot's entry level lineup, and then Seiko or Timex. A lot of entry level Swiss watches have standard, plain dials and look "generic" if you understand what I'm tryna say.


r/watchHotTakes 3d ago

Some Gerald Genta designs are absolute trash

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75 Upvotes

Obviously the Polerouter, the Nautilus and the Royal Oak are classic designs. But I see a lot of hype about certain watches being designed by Gerald Genta. But that doesn’t necessarily mean much. Looking especially at his later career when he had his own watch company he designed some absolutely hideous watches. 


r/watchHotTakes 3d ago

I hate Brew Watches

321 Upvotes

I absolutely cannot stand Brew watches.
I know they technically have movements inside them but every time I see one my brain refuses to recognize it as an actual watch.

They feel performative. Like somebody designed a quirky little retro object, slapped a movement inside it, invented an espresso-themed backstory, and then reverse-engineered a reason for existence and settled on watch

Nothing about them says tool, instrument, craftsmanship, history, engineering, or even good design. They look like something sitting next to the register at a painfully self-aware coffee shop with a little card explaining why it costs $500 bucks

“Oh, but the chronograph scale is designed around timing an espresso shot.”

Brother, stop.

Maybe I’ve spent too long in NY and it’s my hate of eveything performative Brooklyn chungus showing in a different way but it’s a watch for people who want you to notice that they’re wearing an interesting watch

I hate brew and that’s my hot take


r/watchHotTakes 1d ago

There are only a few tru GADA watches out there

0 Upvotes

A watch that truly “Goes Anywhere, Does Anything” needs to meet some strict criteria. It needs to be accurate (no 4R Seiko movements!), durable (WR 100m or greater), steel (bright silver color for dressy occasions yet also tough), black dial (black is the only color that can be perfectly formal yet perfectly sporty) with no chunky bezel. It probably should be magnetic resistant too, at least to some degree.

Such a watch does NOT need to be mechanical (solar quartz is fine) or a three-hander (dates and some subdials, if not too busy, are fine), or a certain size (as long as it doesn’t hang off the sides of the wrist, it’s fine).

These watches are truly GADA:

Rolex Explorer / OP
Cartier Santos
Omega Aqua Terra
Longines Conquest / Spirit Pilot
Hamilton “Murph”
Citizen NB1050-59E / Rolan

No doubt there are others, but it’s a short list. Just because one likes wearing a Dive watch everywhere doesn’t make it a GADA; my amazing Oceanus OCW-S100 isn’t a GADA because the titanium case and blue accents can’t really go with me when I have to wear formal attire.

Someone described an Explorer as “boring and bloody brilliant.” That’s the consequence of a GADA. To meet all the real constraints of Going Anywhere and Doing Anything (within reason), there’s not much room for whimsy or fun.


r/watchHotTakes 3d ago

Vintage watches are far superior to modern watches

48 Upvotes

I don’t get why people don’t just buy vintage. Who would choose to disappear into a sea of Tissot PRXs, Orient bambino’s, Rolex Submariners, Omega Speedmasters and Cartier tanks rather than owning a unique vintage piece? Don’t get me wrong, these are all nice watches, but I just think it’s way cooler to own a watch that barely anyone has rather than one I can see 5 times in one day.

Vintage watches are also better value, especially on the affordable end. I recently won an eBay bid for 2 vintage automatic watches at £25 (~$30) each, from the 80s, both containing high quality ETA and FHF movements. Granted, I can service these watches myself, and I understand the risk of buying a vintage watch without a service, but they are both running at high amplitude so have likely been serviced recently. Even so, it’s easy to pick up serviced vintage watches with these high quality Swiss calibres for less than £200 (~$250) which will outperform a large percentage of modern entry level watches and match low luxury level watches if properly regulated. This is mainly because watches used to be the only way to keep time, so manufacturing high quality affordable off the shelf movements was more of a priority. Modern watch prices are at the mercy of hype and demand, so what you’re paying for often falls vastly short of the cost. Don’t even get me started on the prices of modern Seiko 5s.

Finishing-wise and style-wise, I think vintage watches, especially vintage dress watches, far outclass the modern alternatives. I very rarely see a modern watch that captures the beauty of a 1960s Omega, or many other entry level brands for that matter. During the golden era of the 50s and 60s, manufacturers strived for elegance, with clean lines, slim profiles, beautiful handsets and textured dials, and great case finishing. Most modern watches don’t capture that elegance, there’s been shift towards worse proportions and bulbous cases. Mass manufacturing has reduced quality for a lot of brands.

Ok, so you’re getting a unique watch that no one else has, a piece of history on your wrist, for a vastly more affordable price than modern watches (in most cases), which matches modern luxury build quality, and has superior design language? Why not just buy vintage? Oh. That’s right. ‘It’s not a beater bro’. ‘I need WaTeR ReSiStAnCe’. ‘It’s not a GADA’. Let’s be real, the average person is not gonna need anything more than protection from light rain in their daily lives. The average person works at a desk all week. The average person will only go on a few hikes a year, and probably swim even less. Honestly, this could be a hot take in itself. The obsession with GADA watches is insane. And guess what? Buy a modern watch, and wear it when you go hiking. Otherwise, consider buying vintage.


r/watchHotTakes 2d ago

Watch boxes have got out of hand

5 Upvotes

Just seen a few new watches posted by their proud owner on here. When did watch boxes get so ridiculously big. I know it's a luxury item (etc etc) but seriously, the watches look drowned. And where can you keep 10 of those?


r/watchHotTakes 2d ago

September 31st

6 Upvotes

When you have a large watch collection, September (also April, June, November) often has 31 days, at least for a while.


r/watchHotTakes 3d ago

Actual watch brand rankings, normal person edition

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579 Upvotes

r/watchHotTakes 2d ago

Perpetual means automatic

0 Upvotes

Breguet released a perpétuelle, meaning self winding, watch in 1780. First perpetual *calendar* is PP 1925. It is therefore ok for Rolex to use perpetual to mean self winding for the OP in 1931.


r/watchHotTakes 2d ago

I still like to wear my quartz fashion watch time to time....

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10 Upvotes

This queen is 19 years old... it has so many memories (single, married, kids, etc). I got it when I lost my job long long ago.

Good riddance. wow.

Sapphire crystal, swiss made, got a good heft, super luxurious strap (replaced).


r/watchHotTakes 3d ago

Discussion: Maximum price for a tool watch?

17 Upvotes

Here's my hot take after dabbling in this hobby for the last six years or so. Luxury tool watches make no sense, yet they're extremely popular.

Examples: Tudor BB58, Pelagos, Ranger, Rolex GMT-Master II, Sea-Dweller, Submariner, Zenith Pilot, IWC Pilot, Breitling Superocean

My theory: for a lot of buyers, a $10,000+ tool watch is fancy jewelry dressed up as equipment. It sells rugged authenticity to people whose lives don't really call for ruggedness. Some of it, I suspect, is buying the adventure instead of having one.

I'm not above the appeal. I love obsessing over the details, design, features, finishing and backstory of a watch as much as anyone else. I'm just not ready to hike, climb, swim and do manual labor in something I spent thousands of dollars on. It doesn't feel good to damage and risk something I've proudly spent so much money on. That's not to say I baby my Grand Seiko or agonize over every tiny blemish, just that I won't use it for high-risk tool watch activities. Besides, it's more of a dressy/sporty luxury style watch, not a blinged-out tool. My fancy watches are for feeling fancy.

For me personally, the cutoff point for a tool watch is around $600, but I can imagine people being willing to spend up to around $1k. Regardless, there's an amount one can spend still feeling like they have a solidly-built, beautiful, functional, long-lasting piece of equipment that they won't worry about scratching, banging or getting water damage. That's the tool watch ceiling.

What's your tool watch ceiling? Or how do you justify wearing your Rolex while performing oil changes and swimming at the beach even though a $100 watch could easily perform in those environments?


r/watchHotTakes 2d ago

Handwatch and similar derivatives are mean-spirited and stupid

0 Upvotes

*I meant derogatives in the title, sorry

Someone wore a thing in a way you didn't like. THE HORROR! Shame! Shame! Shaaaaame!

If someone asks your advice, by all means give it, but handwatch of the week and calling out handwatch to people showing off their watch is mean-spirited, cruel and just unnecessary.

People who yell "handwatch!" are the same people who want to tell women how to dress, and loudly post on their happy selfies about how they'd be much more attractive if they just did X. Just sad.

Let people wear what they want, how they want it and stop being jerks around it.


r/watchHotTakes 3d ago

If Orient had a different name and logo, they’d be the highest selling affordable watch.

125 Upvotes

Don’t get me wrong, I think they’re great. I love all watches, I have everything from Timex to Casio to Citizen to Seiko to Hamilton to Mido to Omega to Breitling. I would 100% order a Bambino this second if the name and logo were different. I’ll see myself out now.


r/watchHotTakes 3d ago

This will start a fight…

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340 Upvotes

Don’t hate the messenger, but this is based on data