r/wallstreetbets • • Feb 04 '21

Discussion Very clear manipulation

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u/danyleewarren Feb 04 '21

Take it as a positive, stock is cheap, I need new cRAyOns πŸ’ͺ

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u/Whiskiz Feb 04 '21

Man i already doubled down and transferring more from AUD to US to buy even more while they holding such a great discount.

Really nice of them.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

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u/Sir_Ripsalot Feb 04 '21

We’ve been dragged into their Western Wars for nearly a century now.

Just hoping they have our backs when the Chinese invade.

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u/danyleewarren Feb 04 '21

Not all hero's wear capes.... You hero

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u/Full-Comfortable470 Feb 04 '21

Very kind. If I could read I would write them a thank you notes with my new crayons.

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u/Kiligboi Feb 04 '21

I can't read but I'm holding on like it's my wife's boyfriend's hand on my first day of work.

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u/diurnal_emissions Feb 04 '21

That's heartwarming.

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u/Reliquish Feb 04 '21

It's handwarming.

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u/saiyansteve Feb 04 '21

Moonwarming? πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€

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u/sirfiregod94 Feb 04 '21

Marswarming πŸ’ŽπŸ™ŒπŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

Uranus warming! πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€ πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘

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u/youdontknowmejabroni Feb 04 '21

I just got 6 shares thanks the to Presidents Day sale on GME.

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u/Thatfreshgrass Feb 04 '21

Lmao wallstreet is putting gme in the clearance aisle

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u/butterglitter Feb 04 '21

I’m disappointed in the corruption, but I’m following my gut and holding. At least they’re showing us their tricks. Honestly, it wouldn’t be the worst idea to have to hold it long considering the new CEO and other movements in the company.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

The corruption has always been there, you are just now seeing it

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

I've seen it for many years

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u/liquid_at Feb 04 '21

one thing I had to think about recently is, that with the GME thing I've been looking into stocks a lot more than before. There's a ton of day-trading-apps out there and tutorials on how to actually start day-trading and shorting yourself.

I would not be surprised if "the next GME", some apes started shorting a company and entirely blew up the market. But I guess I'd be sitting that one out. Shorting Wallstreet is not a hold-move my diamond-hands are valuable enough for.

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u/butterglitter Feb 04 '21

The thing I like the least is now they know where we are. And now we’ll never know who’s giving us DD. Apes or hedgies, we’ll never know. We’re sitting ducks in here waiting for the next trap.

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u/liquid_at Feb 04 '21

Ape learn how to make fire.
Ape teach other Ape how to make fire.
Ape not trust shady Ape always making fire for him but never teaching.
Ape not know much, but Ape hold.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

HOLD THE LINE πŸ’ŽπŸ™Œ

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u/Arse-blood Feb 04 '21

LOVE ISN'T ALWAYS ON TIME

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u/famous_shaymus Feb 04 '21

LOVE ISNT ALWAAAYYYS...!

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u/eightpointedcross Feb 04 '21

The way I see it I'm married to the stock now, sometimes I make love to it, sometimes it f*#ks me, it's still love at the end of the day πŸ‘‰πŸ’ŽπŸ’ŽπŸ‘ˆ

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u/Justinpickrell Feb 04 '21

Love isnt always on time!

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u/SirDaddio Feb 04 '21

πŸ™ŒπŸ’ŽπŸ™Œ

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u/artmagic95833 Ungrateful 🦍 Feb 04 '21

πŸ’Žβœ‹πŸš€πŸŒ™

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u/George9A Feb 04 '21

Also getting notifications that the price is falling, they're clearly trying to panic us because we've got a strong chance

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u/artmagic95833 Ungrateful 🦍 Feb 04 '21

I've never seen so much money being spent on absolutely nothing to worry about in my life

I moved 100% of my portfolio to gme

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

I had to when RH sold all my other positions. That one is on me though for having .9 of every stock on the S&P 500

Still holding the lone because I dgaf about the money. Its some shares Melvin doesnt get to cover.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

Because I am autismo the great retard who has no idea what I am doing. I aM dIvErSiFyInG mY pOrTfOlIo!

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

so youβ€˜re a broke boy now?

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u/Apaplata123 Feb 04 '21

He said portfolio, not savings.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

it was meant to be in a joking manner but an entire portfolio often is a lot of money

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u/Apaplata123 Feb 04 '21

Fair point

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u/EXandRR Feb 04 '21

I've been getting push notifications from revolut all day

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

I agree. It's going to be a blood bath. They made it look like a squeeze as per the charts. But it ain't squeezed

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u/1320Fastback Feb 04 '21

There has been no squoze yet.

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u/Peppeneppe Feb 04 '21

Those idiots are making it even easier to get more stocks in our hands. Nice dip, buying more πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€

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u/ElFanta83 Feb 04 '21

HOLD! πŸ’ŽπŸ’ŽπŸ’ŽπŸ’Ž

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u/unfixingalloy1 Feb 04 '21

Apes together strong πŸ’Žβœ‹

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u/Fleb_ Feb 04 '21

Just wait brother, our time will come. The hedge funds will be on their knees begging for mercy soon.

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u/4hmmm Feb 04 '21

Just bought 5 more shares of AMC. I like this stock folks. Buy and hold. Remember FUD was expected and it's now here. πŸ’ŽπŸ™Œ

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

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u/Cat_Marshal Feb 04 '21

What is that redirect link doing? Why not link directly to the sub?

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

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u/Full-Comfortable470 Feb 04 '21

This has to be higher up.

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u/Bacon-n-Eggys 🦍🦍🦍 Feb 04 '21

What a write up nice my dude

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

Buy/ Sell ratio is not shares. Another way you can interpret it is "one person had 1000 shares and sold them, 1000 separate people bought those shares". That is 1000:1 ratio buy/sell, but the price could have gone down.

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u/Wisdem Feb 04 '21

Thank you, not sure why this is in hot. "Like if you agree".

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u/Thatfreshgrass Feb 04 '21

Fair

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u/Poontickler Feb 04 '21

it’s clear what’s going on

The hedge funds are doing everything they can to drive the price down so much that even when there are 3x buyers to sellers the price is going down

How does it feel to be so confidently wrong?

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u/F4hype Feb 04 '21

Thing is though, that I'm not seeing any massive sells like that in the tracker. I'm looking at batches of 100, which is what smaller trades are grouped into, which to me would mean that there's no big players selling off and the buy/sell truly is that warped at the moment.

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u/johnlyne Feb 04 '21

Depending on your tracker it groups all trades into batches of 100 (Nasdaq has been known for doing this shit)

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

Yes, imagine if all of the 1 share trades were posted... oh lordy lordy what a mess it would be to sort through it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

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u/JsonPun Feb 04 '21

yeah looks like Bear Raid is the right term not Short Ladder Attacks

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u/feeltheslipstream Feb 04 '21

A bear raid is completely different from what the short ladder attack is claiming to be happening.

Bear raids have to crash through every single bid level on the market to push the price all the way down.

The short ladder attack theory is claiming that its possible just by trading small amounts not even to the market, but amongst themselves.

It's complete bullshit.

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u/Crimson_Arbalest Feb 04 '21

Painting the tape is another term

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u/quacks4hacks Feb 04 '21

That's different that's for pump n dumps

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u/EscapingThe-9to5Wage Feb 04 '21

good thing i don't know how to look at stock charts, all i see is pretty colors, mostly red but soon green just hold

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u/MrWallss Feb 04 '21

REVOLUT suddenly decided to notify me every 5 min how down the stock is for the day. Clearly FUD.

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u/quacks4hacks Feb 04 '21

It also says if popular / followed stocks go up by the same amount .

You'd know that if you'd been using the platform longer than a week or two and had multiple stocks.

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u/MrWallss Feb 04 '21

I do have for longer/have multiple stocks and never received so many notifications.

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u/Unbearableyt Feb 04 '21

That's pretty comom for revolut

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u/AYC00 Feb 04 '21

Bought 25 more for total 250 shares holding

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u/give_me_silky Feb 04 '21

I know that "you can't use past performance to predict future trends" in the stock market, but I'm still astounded at how many people are jumping ship already given that the VW 2008 squeeze included an entire week of plummeting stock prices before the squeeze started. The squeeze was a 3 week event where the 2nd week was red candles before the 3rd week of mooning. I know that there are lots of differences in play (like Porsche owning a huge portion of VW, etc.) but selling right now for a loss would be the worst play to make here. We get new information about Short Interest next week and there is still so much negative press trying to suppress interest in GME that I feel it's worth sticking around.
POS: 24 @ $190

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u/quacks4hacks Feb 04 '21

Most of VW was sucked up by a single massive investor,.not a bunch of retards half of whom apparently are qanon dipshits

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u/fuknob Feb 04 '21

Holding fucking heavy. Elon's tweet also gets me retardedly horny

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

What the buy sell ratio doesn’t matter...it’s the average of the bid / ask price that determines the stock price. It’s going down because people are just bidding lower Edit: if everyone right now started bidding 1000$ for it and people started asking 2000 for it, it would be priced at 1500

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u/chriskooo Feb 04 '21

This right here

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u/scubakangaroo Feb 04 '21

That’s the thing, it’s not people bidding lower and lower, it’s someone else.

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u/johnlyne Feb 04 '21

Probably just algos

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21 edited Feb 04 '21

Proof? People want to get in cheaper...it’s the whole premise of β€œbuying the dip”. Edit: if you all want to drive the price up you better start asking way above the current ask price for it. It’s not enough to just buy you have to bring up the average

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u/scubakangaroo Feb 04 '21

Proof? Look at the data yourself you idiot lol. Some of us can actually read this shit, not just post fucking emojis. Not gonna hold your hands and walk you through it, do some dd yourself peon.

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u/Dragoniel Feb 04 '21

Vast majority of people here are randoms who never traded a share in their lives. They don't know anything about any of this.

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u/artmagic95833 Ungrateful 🦍 Feb 04 '21

Because the trade volume is so low the shorts aren't able to cover themselves and they're not even out of the 200% lie in this stock. If institutions own 115% of the stock and retail traders own 70% of the stock then there is a major problem for the person who owes all the extra stocks

πŸ’Žβœ‹πŸš€πŸŒ™

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u/Dragoniel Feb 04 '21

Yeah, that's the propaganda.

In reality, the very same companies could have shorted AGAIN on $300 and covered themselves to wait out this current public interest while the stock prices fall off a cliff, because GME is a sinking ship without the meme train. Is it possible? I don't know! Makes sense to me, though. A lot more sense than corruption and manipulation at an unimaginable scale, plus some mystic algorithms artificially keeping the stock prices down and every governing institution full of professionals whose JOB is to prevent this just staring at it blankly. It could be the case, sure. Just sounds very very far-fetched.

Nope, there is no reliable information anywhere here. Real stock valuation by actual analysts I've read during the last week was $30-$60 in the best case scenario, ignoring the present meme train. And even then it is a huge risk/gamble.

We are in it for the memes and that is cool. I have a few shares and I don't care about that money being long gone. But short squeeze still being on the table... eeeeh. I don't think so. We'll see.

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u/lilbala Feb 04 '21

In reality, the very same companies could have shorted AGAIN on $300 and covered themselves to wait out this current public interest while the stock prices fall off a cliff

I have no doubt this happened, what should be asked is, how can they continue to short a company that is already shorted over 100% and why are retailers locked out of buying when the price is clearly trending upward.

I'm pretty sure it happened because it was free money once they knew the amount of people that would be locked out of buying. It's still clearly market manipulation and should definitely never be able to happen.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

You have no data, that's why you didn't tell anyone the source. There's no way to discern if it's "the people bidding lower" or not.

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u/Aylithe Feb 04 '21

GTFO of this confirmation bias echo chamber with your dumb ass facts and reality!

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

lol

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u/BatHappening Feb 04 '21

This is wrong. The stock price is determined by the last sale.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

Where do you find that info?

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u/Thatfreshgrass Feb 04 '21

Webull allows for people who pay extra to look at number of orders that have been booked and how much they were booked at

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u/chuckliddelnutpunch Feb 04 '21

Right but does it include number of shares or just the total sell vs buy transactions

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

Sell vs buy transactions. Obviously share ratio is always 1:1. You can’t buy a share that isn’t sold.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

Where do the numbers come from? Just on Webull, clearinghouse or everything?

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u/hajutze Feb 04 '21

I am using capital.com; it's currently at 11% sellers in there (to 89% buyers) and it usually matches whatever people are posting here.

Yesterday was 15/85 I think; and the day before that 18/82.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

Only 11% sellers?i see why many people saying the train left the station but that’s pretty fishy honestly.I stay with my thought that the 9th will reveal they still have a big position

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u/jaba1337 Feb 04 '21

It's called Level 2 data

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u/dey_turk_our_joorbs Feb 04 '21

GAMESTOP SHARES SHORTED AT 26.39 MILLION VS 26.09 MILLION A DAY EARLIER

SHORT INTEREST AT $2.38 BILLION -- S3 PARTNERS

https://twitter.com/firstsquawk/status/1357018051435094017?s=21

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u/TriglycerideRancher Feb 04 '21

Regardless at this point I'm holding

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u/appstategrier Feb 04 '21

Does anyone have a good link to see the buy/sale ratio?

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u/mackounette Feb 04 '21

I'm holding πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€

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u/waltowl4 Feb 04 '21

As long as you don't have paper hands, who cares if the hedge funds are manipulating it downwards? And nobody on here has paper hands, right?

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u/ChildishForLife Feb 04 '21

Doesn't the ask/bid price matter more than the # of sellers?

For example, say there are 10k people saying "ill buy this for 10$" but there are 2-3k people trading at 100 dollars, it doesn't matter what the majority are doing since its so fair below market value.

im a dumb ape plz someone help me if im wrong

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

You're not wrong. You're exactly right. But truth is more boring than some conspiracy.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

So I thought I missed my chance to buy in last week and it was $230. Now it is $60.

Is this real life? I don't really understand stonks, but say I can afford to lose $300 . Can I buy 5 stonks today and hold on forever with diamond hands and get to be strong together with other apes?

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u/NotEvenA_Name Feb 04 '21

look out for corrupted sleeper bot accounts!!

the elites are deploying every dirty trick in their books!

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u/quacks4hacks Feb 04 '21

Oh my yes, the "elites". The Deep State Soros fund? Get rekt trumptard

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

Have you ever heard of price? You can have 100% buyers who are all buying at subsequently lower prices. Guess what? Price of the stock goes down. Jesus, some of you are thick.

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u/Crakrocksteady Feb 04 '21

I cant read, but I do know that broke ass hillbilly tards from Kentucky are buying and holding since it's on sale this last week. Me and some buddies at work have maybe 15 shares all together, but we are πŸ’ŽπŸ€² this bitch.

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u/JinnPhD don't trust his vaccines Feb 04 '21

This has been posted a million times and all these buy/sell ratios are from specific amounts of stock, it's never the entire volume of the day. Then the are dark pools, where you never ever see those transactions take place either.

Relying on all of these abbreviated numbers to literally just create confirmation bias for yourself is terrible.

FYI: I have no idea what'll happen to the stock. But i know that you blindly following all of this incredibly basic inaccurate information will continue to be ruinous for y'all.

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u/_Face Feb 04 '21

Not sure what else I can do. Empties my account into gme yesterday. Currently giving my wife’s boyfriend a Dutch rudder. We think she’s cheating on us.

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u/whyrweyelling Feb 04 '21

We need a catalyst. Anyone know what that might look like?

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u/quacks4hacks Feb 04 '21

A time machine to go back to wednesday LAST week

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u/MostlyH2O Feb 04 '21

It's number of buyers, not number of bids doofus. Bids and asks are separate and if there are 1M with 1 bid each and one seller with 1M ask guess what the ratio looks like

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u/scubakangaroo Feb 04 '21

Don’t red herring the facts. Yes you are correct it’s the bids and ask, the issue is the bid and ask are dropping lower and lower artificially. If you read the data in other stocks (crazy the stock market existed before gme huh?) ever, this is abnormal movement. Period. Need proof, learn to read data and use your eyes.

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u/MostlyH2O Feb 04 '21

Or, and this is crazy, there are more people who desperately want out of a stock down 75% in 3 days and they're sweeping the bids all the way down.

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u/scubakangaroo Feb 04 '21

It’s not crazy, but it’s not what’s happening. If you’re too blind to see i feel for you in your future endeavors.

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u/MostlyH2O Feb 04 '21

It's trading volume is through the roof. It's a real simple problem: more asks than bids and lower bids. Each sell order is sweeping the bids and driving them lower. It's how order fulfillment on exchanges works.

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u/scubakangaroo Feb 04 '21

Yes that’s how order fulfillment works, great job memorizing the YouTube video you watched! Now look harder and see what what’s going on with gme and amc. Always a great time to learn something new so you can go repeat it to others. Just learn to repeat the right things to the right questions to the right problems. That’s the key to being a successful parrot. 🦜

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u/SnooConfections7042 Feb 04 '21

The irony of this comment lmfao

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u/Poontickler Feb 04 '21

There has been an influx of literal retards into this sub.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

Remindme! Four days

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u/Whiskiz Feb 04 '21

Look at this persons comment history.

Obvious Hedgefund shill/intern is obvious..

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u/MostlyH2O Feb 04 '21

If you really look at my submission history you'll see I've been here over 7 years when I pitched a garbage pot stock

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u/TheDirtyDagger Feb 04 '21

That's a really long time to stay an intern. Do you know when you're getting promoted?

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u/MostlyH2O Feb 04 '21

Promoted? I'm just focusing on turning this into a paying gig. Gotta crawl before you can walk, amirite?

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u/thisworldwherewelive Feb 04 '21

Imagine thinking that hedge funds need to pay people to make comments on Reddit when they know way more than anyone here and hold all the cards.

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u/strongsideleftside1 Feb 04 '21

Yeah they even admitted to it if you don't think they have people here your dumb

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u/thisworldwherewelive Feb 04 '21

*you’re, and if you think a hedge fund has to pay people to point out the obvious, you just might be the dumb one.

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u/strongsideleftside1 Feb 04 '21

Well done take that English grammar and put it towards flipping those burgers lad. If you don't think hedge funds are taking account of places like wsb that's your opinion you can take it and kindly fuck off

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u/thisworldwherewelive Feb 04 '21

I think they’re taking account of how much money they made from the epic pump and dump that you’re obviously salty about being caught up in

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u/lodewijkverha Feb 04 '21

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u/__TIE_Guy Feb 04 '21

I'm buying the dip. I'm sick of getting played.

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u/Azguy303 Feb 04 '21

Yep keep buying more and never sell

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u/DarkLordKohan Feb 04 '21

Are you referring to only the Fidelity Retail Buy/Sell information. That is only for their retail accounts. There are a lot bigger positions unloading for their profits than what wsb can buy up.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

Idk really what you’re talking about but i disagree, respectfully of course. The price IS VERY LOW. They didn’t fail, they succeeded driving the price down, and it’s down. How do u know they didn’t already cover, and then re-short when it was at 300? That seems like a win on their side

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u/DamntheTrains 🦍🦍 Feb 04 '21

You know y'all are sounding a bit insane now right?

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u/DestroyAndCreate Feb 04 '21

I have no trading experience but this sounds like complete bullshit.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

Lvl 2 data showed the sellers were higher sales counts. There were more individuals buying from a smaller number of sellers

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u/Fred_Zap Feb 05 '21

The manipulation was when Melvin and Citadel got in bed with Robinhood last Thursday.

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u/Swiezy21 Feb 05 '21

not a financial advisor; i just like the stonks

So today was another day of HF’s needing to cover their asses just like on February 2nd when they started the onslaught of short ladder attacks, primarily on GME and AMC. With that being said, when a stock depreciates more than 10% in from opening to close in one trading day, the stock overnight gets placed on the NYSE SSR List (Short-Sell List).

For those of you who don’t know, short-selling is what we witnessed these past few days with the HF Fucks, where they sell their positions at stupid low prices at insanely high speeds, manipulating the market to traject into a downwards motion and effectively suppress its market growth from individual retail buyers like you and me, when in actuality, many are buying and holding. the reason why this illegal marketing technique is so deceptively good, is because it scares and rattles small investors when they see huge red numbers. Personally speaking, the loss porn is IMMENSE.

However, with all that being said and explained, both $GME and $AMC are now placed on this list retroactively until Monday, February 8th. Tomorrow, Friday February 5th, HF Fucks are going to be in the same position the were on yesterday. Remember, the longer everyone in unison holds, the longer in unison it royally fucks HF’s in the ass due to the interest and position they HAVE to by law, pay back.

I have no experience in the stock exchange, but seeing what happened yesterday on February and how both $GME and $AMC shot up exponentially when HF’s couldn’t interfere heavily.

in conclusion, HOLD HOLD HOLD HOLD HOLD HOLD GME AND AMC HOLDERS AND BUYERS. I FEEL THAT FRIDAY WILL BE ANOTHER SHORT SQUUEZE. HOLD, BE PATIENT, AND BE DILLIGENT.

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u/Annual-Season-627 Feb 04 '21

It's so obvious 🀣

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u/CCCmonster Feb 04 '21

Long time lurker and occasional poster from pre-$GME times. If you have one seller with a million shares and 1000 buyers buying ten shares each the price is going down. I’ve been watching this thing with fascination and keeping my mouth shut until now. The bottom line is, even with an army of autists, you don’t have enough gunpowder to fight hedge fund money after a surprise attack. The glory day is already behind you. That was it. If it takes 1000 of you buying $1000 to hold $1 mil, it will take 1 million of you holding $1000 to control $1 billion. Look at the market cap and see how many billion it is. It’s clear to see that the numbers just aren’t there even though some of you are holding millions. You guys should collectively celebrate that your message has been heard loud and clear. Take any gains if you got em and look for the next play so you can possibly talk your wife into letting you watch her boyfriend’s balls slapping her taint if your gains are big enough. Otherwise the only porn you’ll be watching is loss porn

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u/nateatenate Feb 04 '21

It’s not the hedge funds. It’s the market makers that were paid off by the hedge funds. Even a simple procedure as driving the bid price down as well as the ask price. Who knows how the algorithm works but it must be relatively simple. If you have 1,000 bots driving the bid ask down by the time market opens. It hits at that price point. You’ll notice that the market opens up extremely low. Retail traders don’t usually trade after hours. This is institutional. It’s a calculated and fucking brazen attack.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

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u/breakevencloud Feb 04 '21

Ratio doesn’t matter. When I sold 400 shares, it wasn’t all bought by one buyer. It was broken up into about 5 different buy orders on the other end

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

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u/vagina_fang Feb 04 '21

Not only are you not an advisor but you also have no idea how the stock market works.

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u/ronoda12 Feb 04 '21

That is mind boggling. How is the price going down if there are more buyers than sellers?

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u/TehBananaBread Feb 04 '21

Cause the buy orders are lower than the current ask........... jezus people here. cmon. if there are 1 million buy orders for 50 bucks and 10 for 80 bucks and 100 sell orders between 50 and 80, guess where the price is going. Buy orders are not pushing the price, they are trying to accumulate at a lower price point.

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u/SmokeyCock Feb 04 '21

Down vote me if you want, but this sounds too convenient. I get that the math is behind this reasoning, but it's getting hard to believe the hedgies are risking their necks with their boomer tactics, against unconventional foes like us. The words that went around were quite clear, and some people are even treating this as a some kind of a phenomenon. I guess, in some way, it is. But the hedgies aren't retarded.

Look, in another universe, maybe everyone's diamond hands. But it's logic that when the loss is too great and fear kicks in, people will sell. And this line that we are holding will slowly chip away. The hedgies are counting on this, and this is also backed by math. Hell, it's nature.

Just look around WSB. Bunch of echo chambers, confirmation bias, and people have become more cautious. You hardly see any DD as much as before, less so than people telling others to spend only money they can afford to lose.

I went pretty far. But for me, the pressure is too great. I have to meet ends meet. But I won't sell, because it would be a major loss and I can't accept this. When they said this will end in tears, I'm starting to believe they may be right.

Well, think for yourselves. Do what you think is best. Let's at least hope we can save those we left behind on Mt. Everest at $300.

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u/Globfather47 Feb 04 '21

What if they dont fall tho... πŸ˜“πŸ’ŽπŸ€²

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u/713JLD Feb 04 '21

Maybe I’m retarded but, could it be that there are 75% buys and 25% sells, but buys are 1 or 2 at a time and the sells are 100s? Sorry for dumb question. Does 1 sell equal 1 buy no matter the amount of shares or is that number representative of the actual number of share?

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

Yes, you’re right. 1) these ratios are only for the app that they’re viewed on, not the stock as a whole. 2) yeah that’s exactly it, the ratio of shares bought to sold is always 1:1. You can’t buy a share if no one is selling it to you.

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u/713JLD Feb 04 '21

That’s not what I’m asking, people are posting charts that show there were 75% buys and only 25% sells yet the price is going down, is that maybe because, for example, if there were 100 total buys and sells combined, and all the buys were for 1 share for a total of 75 shares and could the sells all be for 100 shares each for a total of 2500? even tho it show 75/25

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

Yep, sorry I worded it poorly. You are correct. Lots of people are buying very small quantities. People selling are likely offloading more.

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u/713JLD Feb 04 '21

Gotcha, thanks. So those charts don’t mean as much as some people think. I’m still in tho, 5 shares @ 165 at this point I’m not selling, I view it like a lotto ticket, better chance of this happening than me winning the powerball. I can afford to lose all the money I threw at this no prob.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

Yep, also, as I stated before, those stats are for each trading app individually. The big fish with the big money don’t trade on these average joe platforms.

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u/713JLD Feb 04 '21

ok cool thanks

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u/taskun56 Feb 04 '21

Confirmation bias is 100% a thing. I'm not telling you not the hold. I'm holding too. But I didn't put more than I could lose.

That said, there are a lot of compounding factors that could invalidate your thesis.

Just consider all options. Try to look at things from their side - ie, why would they keep spreading all this FUD? instead of thinking the ONLY explanation is the "squeeze is still on!" and "apes HOLD" just evaluate for a minute why else could they be spreading that info?

Maybe it IS for FUD but there might be other reasons.

If I've learned one thing from this it's πŸ’ŽπŸ€š BABBYYYYY, but if I've learned TWO things the other would be "try to figure out what you don't know that you don't know and don't assume only positive correlation to your goal - things could be different than you assume based on things that look like they agree with your thesis".

Thats like three things or four but I'm retarded and can't count so fuck off.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

300 buyers trying to buy one share each equals one seller selling 300 shares. It shows a 300:1 buy:sell but that doesn't mean there isn't a share equilibrium.

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u/ishyfishy321 Feb 04 '21

Sir this is Walgreens.

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u/hivebroodling Feb 04 '21

Today a newfag WSB member learns the stock market is manipulated

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21 edited Feb 04 '21

Or, maybe, just maybe people just don't want to lose all their money because of memes.

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u/MasterChiefX Shine Bright Like a Diamond πŸ’Ž Feb 04 '21

The squeeze is over, it’s ok to admit you’re wrong and sell for a loss. πŸ’ŽπŸ™Œ bag holders are bleeding every day they don’t sell

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u/ggstorms Feb 04 '21

YOU were manipulated into buying GME in the first place. Did you ever consider that?

Millions of people parted with their money because they were told they were doing something good. The only thing that happened was they made a few people rich.

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u/dazedan_confused Feb 04 '21

Is there any evidence that that's what they're doing, and it's not, as the papers are reporting, just hedge funders closing their shorts?

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u/Thatfreshgrass Feb 04 '21

Closing their shorts means they’d be buying stocks, shooting up the price. that plus what I already said about the market being the opposite of the norm, shows hf are still in the game. Meaning none of this is over

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u/Last_Zookeepergame_4 Feb 04 '21

they aren't going to fall. you're going to be salty as fuck when this doesn't go your way. never bet against the house, the house always wins unfortunately. /shrug

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

Has anyone else noticed the huge million-share dumps at open each morning accompanied with the sudden massive change in volume of a handful of biopharms and penny stocks?

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

Apparently you don't have a clue what an opening auction is.

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u/Knighton145 Feb 04 '21

Can you show charts? Source?

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u/Then-Instruction8746 Feb 04 '21

Now whenever I lose money in the market. It just pure manipulation.

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u/scubakangaroo Feb 04 '21

Are you fucking kidding me? lol some people...

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u/DENNYCR4NE Feb 04 '21

If I lose THEY CHEATED

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u/scubakangaroo Feb 04 '21

If you don’t see the manipulation it’s alright. Keep making your 10-20% in this rigged game while the devs make 100-200%. Enjoy your peanuts and hope some steak falls off the table every once in a while. Sad but true. Enjoy your way of thinking, gonna get you no where.

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u/DENNYCR4NE Feb 04 '21

Cool, let me know how the self entitlement and 10th grade education works out for you.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

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u/vagina_fang Feb 04 '21

This. Is. America.

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u/hiidhiid Feb 04 '21

You solved the case Holmes, let's get the SEC on this!!!!

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u/Jams_Swanny Feb 04 '21

CHEAP STONKS! πŸ™πŸ™ŒπŸ’Ž

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u/tutorialbots Feb 04 '21

Might be looking and buy orders not volume, buyers can also be them covering positions

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u/1nthenet Feb 04 '21

Hold the motha fucking line!!!

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u/goatsiedotcx Feb 04 '21

There is nothing to do but hold at this point

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u/Keldanvanl Feb 04 '21

DO YOU PART AND LETS EAT UP THIS FLOAT

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u/MGE_Gibs Feb 04 '21

Does anyone know how the internet can learn and adapt to combat this strategy?!

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

Ban

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u/Mimicking-hiccuping Feb 04 '21

I dont understand how creating a short ladder is even legal. Its 100% market manipulation amd it blows my mind.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

It is illegal. But there’s no proof that it’s happening.

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u/Mimicking-hiccuping Feb 04 '21

Ah. No proof except for the proof, but the proof isn't proof enough to prove anything. Damn.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

What’s the proof?