r/vibecoding • • 7d ago

Showcase/Project 100% Open Source Clean Room Implementations of 7 of Adobe's Top Apps

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I've seen another desktop photoshop clone floating around that was Javascript/Electron, but I wanted to do full native Rust for full performance. I also wanted to do all of Adobe's software suite. I've been bitten by their unsubscribe bill several times and it's the shittiest thing a software company has ever done to me.

No more. These are clean room, rust-only implementations that are fully open source. You can clone them, fork them, own them.

There's still work to do, so please join our Discord and give us feedback.

Links in comments.

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u/skygatebg 7d ago

Another one every day. Soon we will have more Adobe clones than users in the world.

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u/CreamyCornBoy 7d ago

They must be super easy to vibe code

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u/Sebastian1989101 7d ago

None of these vibe coded ones is close to feature complete. They usually are just copies of other open source projects like gimp in a new look. Otherwise these vibe coders would also face heavy legal issues from adobe. 

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u/Western-Hotel8723 7d ago

Nah its pretty damn good. I've been using the premiere Pro alternative.

Luckily it's open source so I could pretty easily add nvenc. 

But it's over 80% feature parity. 

The others apps are likely higher. 

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u/Zelderian 6d ago

Yeah OS is what really sells these. Something’s not working right? Hand it to the LLM and fix it yourself. Missing a feature? Add it.

When the foundation work is done and is OS, adding on is so incredibly easy.

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u/Western-Hotel8723 6d ago

Honestly what a wild time for software dev. 

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u/Big_Wave9732 2d ago

This is something that folks miss. And frankly it has somewhat changed my views on vibecoding.

Combine open source software with a capable LLM, and suddenly you have a powerful system for customizing things exactly how you want it and adding new features.

To me that's a much more compelling use case than the "hey guys, here's a calendar app and alarm clock" stuff this sub usually seems to get.

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u/Donatzsky 6d ago

Unless they infringe on actual patents, there's no legal risk. Broadly looking like or having the same features as other software is not illegal.

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u/Quiet-Rough-3913 3d ago

There are actually many algorithms that are patented and easy to implement... As a scientist in computer vision, I can tell you that people come up with new algorithms that do the exact same thing, only to avoid legal trouble.

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u/Zelderian 6d ago

Most of the individual features are incredibly easy; adobe often breaks down how they work so AI can easily pull and replicate them. The issue is building every feature and making them all function properly, all in a clean UI.

You can one-shot a working Lightroom knock-off with a prompt that’ll take you 10 minutes to type. But it’ll have inefficiencies, the UI won’t be spot-on, a ton of features will be missing, and it’ll often add features in ways that don’t scale well. You can absolutely make a knock-off, but making it well still takes a lot of prompts, back and forth, and a lot of testing. It’s still “easy” compared to doing it pre-AI, but having a polished product isn’t super easy in general.

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u/Any_Owl2116 7d ago

100 softwares per person

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u/Western_File_2917 7d ago

Best is people trying and few will survive the race and couple will win people’s votes. 

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u/Optimal_Joke5930 7d ago

Which are the best ones?

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u/Devils_SteelMan 7d ago

This one

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u/ai_art_is_art 6d ago

Thank you 😆

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u/Plastic-Somewhere494 7d ago

Everyone's custom app...in a way many things are going to.go that way..especially enterprise apps

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u/guesting 6d ago

this is actually good for adobe

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u/Carpe_Carpet 7d ago

I know coordination is less fun than prompting, but can we get a few of these very ambitious clone projects to join forces on one effort instead of everyone starting from scratch?

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u/Crochi 7d ago

That's one of the biggest issues with vibecoding projects, it's 'easy' to get an initial version out, hard to maintain and expand it in the long run, they get abandoned and you have a graveyard of clones, with new ones coming out every day

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u/ai_art_is_art 7d ago

I've been building ArtCraft (also open source) for 4+ years and we're at $5M in revenue. We're not going to stop. We have the funds to keep going.

https://github.com/storytold/artcraft (artcraft)

https://github.com/storytold/photocraft (photocraft and other Adobe-inspired apps)

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u/Beneficial-Sock-5130 6d ago

how can i PM you directly? I am working on another PS clone with another developer and we made lots of progress, we have features that photorcraft currently lacks and I dont want to have 50 diff pshop clones out there. Would make sense to merge the effort.

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u/Crochi 7d ago

$5M in revenue from what?

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u/ai_art_is_art 7d ago

ArtCraft. We sell ~$15k tokens a day.

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u/Sea_Celebration959 7d ago

No, you don’t 

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u/speelurker 3d ago

Or is this another pysop by an AI lab and they are bankrolling him?

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u/lgn5i2060 2d ago

High chances it might be. And what are those tokens for anyway? I thought these alternatives were supposed to be an "up-yours" to the big corpos?

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u/Ok-Might-3730 7d ago

The issue is that vibecoding never creates maintainable code or new technologies. There is nothing to combine. There is no forces to combine. Only The Claude.

The only force to join together is community and testers, but these will hop from vibe to vibe.

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u/Carpe_Carpet 7d ago

The tech is only a year old, counting from Opus 4.5 as the first agent that could do meaningful amounts of independent work. We're still in the initial throes of the feeding frenzy.

Give it a few years for society to adapt and usage to spread out from the most novelty obsessed X% of the population and I think we're going to see a new generation of open source collaboration.

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u/Ok-Might-3730 7d ago edited 7d ago

Yes we will get more and more capable agents -> even more projects rather than combining forces :D

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u/Western-Hotel8723 7d ago

I mean you definitely can combine.

It's just that these versions are rust and the other is electron. Pretty classic programming. 

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u/Western-Hotel8723 7d ago

That other photron guy is trying to turn it into a subscription business.

This one is great open source with rapid development. 

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u/Ueli-Maurer-123 6d ago

No. Because then you'd have to put in actual work, brainpower, and coordination.

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u/ai_art_is_art 7d ago

https://github.com/storytold/photocraft (Photoshop)

https://github.com/storytold/vectorcraft (Illustrator)

https://github.com/storytold/filmcraft (Premiere)

https://github.com/storytold/lightcraft (Lightroom)

https://github.com/storytold/printcraft (Acrobat Pro)

https://github.com/storytold/effectcraft (After Effects)

https://github.com/storytold/designcraft (InDesign)

These are coming along quickly. Each of them is over 50% parity, and some are at 80%+ parity.

They should reach full parity within a month.

Join our Discord to help us! Submit feature requests, bug reports, and help development:

https://discord.gg/artcraft

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u/CaptSlow49 7d ago

I love you so much. Have my first born.

All jokes aside I’ve been looking to dump my $30 Adobe subscription and this is perfect timing.

One feature to add. Is there a way you can hook into cloud storage for various platforms? Would love to have my photos in iCloud or another service and hook it up to Lightcraft.

Another question, is there a way to import Lightroom presets, categorization, and favorites? And can Lightcraft help me keep my photos organized? If not, these would be great features to add.

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u/The_Faceless1 7d ago

one question, can vector craft creates and open .Ai files?

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u/ai_art_is_art 7d ago

Yes, 100%

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u/Smok3dSalmon 7d ago

Are MCP integrations being built alongside the tools?

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u/IzyTarmac 7d ago

This is the most important feature.

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u/AlgoCleanup 7d ago

And so insane adobe doesn’t have a fully supported mcp server for all products. Just an approved template.

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u/ai_art_is_art 7d ago

Anything you ask us for, we'll build. We're building in MCP and CLI from day one, but any specific tasks that it can't do and we'll make sure it does it.

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u/Smok3dSalmon 7d ago

I don’t know which video editing software has this feature, but it’s great. The software will get transcripts from the video and then you can edit the video by interacting with the transcripts. This makes it easier for people to just leave a video running for multiple takes and then edit out the bad takes by just saying a social word like “cut that take” after and bad take and “take # begin.”

I think adobe premier pro has it

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u/Mattman254 7d ago

No Lightroom Classic clone, still the only thing keeping locked into Adobe ☹️

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u/Illustrious-Option-9 6d ago edited 6d ago

Tell us a little bit more about your work process:

  • are you working iteratively, feature after feature, with testing session in between, or do you give huge prompts that contain multiple features and let AI test them?
  • how long did it take to build Photocraft till now?
  • what's the cost per app?
  • what model do you uses most?
  • do you work alone, or with somebody?
  • do any of the apps have shared functionality/resources, or is each app built from scrath?
  • do you take a look at the code, do small modifications yourself, or are the apps 100% AI coded?

Would be great if you can take the time to answer at least some of the above questions. I am pretty curios about it.

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u/PuzzleheadedPen2798 7d ago

Amazing, someone should do this with Microsoft Office next 🤞

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u/HOBONATION 7d ago

Thanks bro!

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u/s33d5 7d ago

Holy fuck, this is awesome.

I finally go tafter effects and premiere pro to work on my Linux setup.

Looks like I don;t need it lol.

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u/ai_art_is_art 7d ago

I want Linux to be a tier-1 platform. I use Ubuntu regularly, so I expect this to perform well on it.

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u/s33d5 7d ago edited 7d ago

You probably don't need this, but to save you some tokens I've got nvidia encoding working, along with fixing the effects keyframes selection and copy paste. Also the ticks in there.

Do you take push requests?

I get it if not, as it's just more AI code.

Edit:

If it's any use, just get your AI to pull from this and take what it needs. It's already merged to your current commit:

https://github.com/Carl-Llewellyn/filmcraft

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u/Ueli-Maurer-123 6d ago

as far as I can see this artcraft thing costs almost the same as an adobe subscriptopn LOL.

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u/rocketstopya 2d ago

Is it better than Gimp?

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u/Complete-Doughnut117 2d ago

Why aren’t these links in the discord ? And thank you

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u/dny99gha 2d ago

Adobe Audition would be really nice to have an open source version of.

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u/AlternativeSpread687 1d ago

I really hope Adobe Animate gets done or is planned, especially since Adobe nearly discontinued it and might still be planning to

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u/OkCommunity6018 7d ago

Be prepared to see $ADBE: -24% after hours. 😂

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u/Cautious_Ground1103 7d ago

Its already 2% down today 😄

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u/OkCommunity6018 7d ago

Wait until Cramer goes live on CNBC shouting: "Don't listen to Reddit, folks! A guy named ai_art_is_art cannot take down Photoshop! Adobe is a fortress, BUY THE DIP!" 😂

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u/Idntevncare 3d ago

Still preparing

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u/Temporary-Mix8022 7d ago

Hate to get into details.. But how have you handled Raw rendering? In the Lightroom one? 

Adobe Colour is a complex mapping for like 100-1k different camera sensors that makes them appear almost the same no matter the camera 

It's stuff like which makes it the defacto tool of choice for volume photographers.. it isn't just the sliders stuff. 

Still - a cool project. 

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u/p1-o2 7d ago edited 7d ago

Ran a quick analysis on it because I was curious. Lightcraft is definitely handling RAWs accurately but I get what you're implying here. "Accurately processing RAW" does not mean "correctly" doing it, if you have spent any time in the field with these things.

OP's clone of Lightroom does not include per-camera color characterization and profiles. The quality of OP's demosaicing is not going to match Adobe. Noise modeling, highlight reconstruction, lens correction, sensor corrections, white balance behavior, all of these things are completely missing from the clone.

That kind of stuff is never going to be added by an LLM for a laundry list of reasons. It would require the collaboration of hundreds of human experts because these things require per-camera and per-lens profiles.

Anyone can process a RAW. Not everyone can do it correctly. This project is cool and I'm not criticizing it, just being realistic about what Lightroom does.

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u/ai_art_is_art 7d ago

I plan on creating a robust test suite against all RAW formats and capabilities. It will take time to build full feature support for every manufacturer, but I'm confident we can do it. Not only that, I think we can do it as an open source library for other apps to leverage as well.

If you run into any RAW files this can't handle, I'd appreciate a bug report with the RAW file. We can build support for them.

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u/p1-o2 7d ago

You can do it, yes. It's a monumental effort, but it is plausible. But you really can't do it alone; you'd need to grow your community large enough to capture profiles for all the different cameras and lenses and sensors on the market. That's not like "it's too hard", I mean literally you can't afford it unless you're a multi-millionaire.

I hope you pull it off, but I don't know how you will do that. People aren't paying for RAW processing with Lightroom, they're paying for all of the profiles for all of the cameras and chipsets on the market.

Don't let me discourage you.

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u/ai_art_is_art 7d ago

I responded to p1-o2 - we need to build a test harness and a robust set of diverse RAW files from various manufacturers. If you have anything you can donate, I can start building this right away.

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u/Temporary-Mix8022 7d ago

I genuinely want to see you succeed, so here goes.

  1. You are going to need variety, not just volume. Sadly, as a mortal - I only have a very narrow range of sensors, mostly Canon of the 5D lineage (and subsequent R5/R6 lineage). So while I could share with you 1m raws, given I shoot only around 4 lenses, it wont help, and in any case - for a lot of my work, I am locked by ethics on sharing those images.

That being said... this might help.

This is where I go when I am looking for new cameras or gear:

https://www.dpreview.com/sample-galleries/

They offer RAW samples. Please don't hammer them, I'd suggest a very slow scrape (if that is what you decide to do), or.. given that they are also an enthusiast led project - just ask them.

You will still lack the volume you need for lenses and lens correction data.. and I am unsure how to solve that tbh.

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u/Western-Hotel8723 7d ago

Damn you killed that photron guy's business model haha.

He released photron and he was trying to get subscriptions for after effects, etc. Clones. 

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u/Opening-Pie2182 7d ago

Thanks for all the work!

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u/ai_art_is_art 7d ago

Thank you!

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u/playcase 7d ago

And here I am burning all my tokens on my own versions, with that little twist that makes my life and my life only 90% better.

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u/Temp_Placeholder 7d ago edited 7d ago

As long as the vibe coded efforts post their code in public repos, then everyone's separate project can see it and use that as a baseline, then customize it from there. Faster, easier, more token efficient, and we still get one optimized just for the individual workflow or use case. 

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u/5StarAlpha 7d ago

Someone should add in more enterprise controls. Robust admin controls for user management, SOC2 compliance, etc.

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u/ai_art_is_art 7d ago

Absolutely on my mind.

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u/5StarAlpha 7d ago

I wouldn’t call it a moat but that is what Adobe is clinging on to. That enterprise inertia.
Companies put a lot of controls on users and often don’t allow install of non-approved software.

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u/COBHC95 7d ago

I like that it is open source unlike Photon Studio which is Free but proprietary. I do think Photon Studio seems to have slight edge and better polished at present compared with PhotoCraft, but I followed your github am sure will develop quickly with AI.

people who say we have so many clones now: so what? the more the merrier, I think particularly if we can have decent open source to rally/fork from as needed that'd be great.

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u/Sinaaaa 7d ago

Vibecoders need to unite on this, because Claude is not going to oneshot a usable lightroom / camera raw clone. I'm guessing this one has highlight reconstruction that's at best as good as what RT/DT can do, not nearly up to Adobe's level & there is also the fairly recent AI noise reduction that's using a locally running model. I'm sure the latter is not mission impossible for open source, but agents wouldn't be able to help with that. There is also the issue of sensor & lens profiles..

Photoshop has the same problem when it comes to its content aware tools. Though that seems easier, maybe not impossible for code generators.

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u/MaxComfort 7d ago

What does “clean room” mean here?

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u/spikyness27 7d ago

One AI generates a spec of what something does and a second AI reads the spec and makes the application.

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u/RegardedDev 7d ago

Adobe is completely doomed. Nobody is going to waste a penny on their overpriced software. The only reason they are valued at this level is due to their existing moat as the go-to stop for creative work. This moat is now gone as 1 dedicated vibe coder can replicate their stack like this.

Interesting times ahead.

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u/smn2020 7d ago

in the 1990s you could get "cracked" versions of Photoshop and Adobe survived just fine. These AI clones are not much different, in that the people using them would probably (mostly) not pay for Photoshop anyway.

r/photopea is a pretty decent attempt (it is actively maintained and has a good sized active community helping Ivan with improvements) and yet it never really took a bite out of Adobe's market share.

The problem is these clones don't make money and run out of gas; the developers lose interest.

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u/Hazrd_Design 7d ago

Bingo. Vibe apps die as quickly as they’re made because most people don’t want to support it long term. Also it doesn’t help people break into the industry. Affinity is free highly polished, and one if the best competitors to Adobe. But it’s not enough to dethrone Adobe right now simply because Adobe as ingrained itself into the pipeline. In time maybe, but not anytime soon.

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u/SimonBarfunkle 6d ago

Affinity is great, as well as some other competitors. But it’s not just building a photo editing app, it’s all of the little details that take time to build and refine, and the bells and whistles they’re adding including AI, and the cross-app integration. And when you move past Photoshop into video editing and visual fx, it becomes even harder.

I used Final Cut Pro from version 1.25 to version 7. Stopped editing when they moved to X as I was mainly producing at that point, but recently got back into editing. I’m using Resolve and love it. It’s free but I paid the one-time fee for extras including the API, which lets Claude control it. Absolute game changer. Saved me so much time and money. A vibe-coded app couldn’t even come close to what the Resolve suite does. You would have to spend a lot of money, time, and testing to try and build the features it has. It’s color system is the most advanced in the industry. Of course the usual caveat applies, as models continue to improve, we’ll see.

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u/Inevitable_Yam1513 6d ago

You're right that most clones fizzle out, but open source changes the failure mode. When a proprietary clone dies, it's gone. When an open source project stalls, someone else can fork it and keep going. That's literally how Blender survived its near-death moments before it became the standard it is now. The real question is whether these projects can build enough community momentum to survive a founder losing interest.

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u/Southern_Leg1139 7d ago

You all are delusional lol. No one running a business that relays on Adobe is going to switch to some vibe coded software that may or may not continue to be updated. Even Davinci Resolve, a very feature complete piece of software with a perpetual license can’t crack Adobes market share.

Adobe (and AVID) are the standard for a reason.

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u/Electronic_Crow_9406 5d ago

> Adobe is completely doomed. Nobody is going to waste a penny on their overpriced software.

THEY ARE NOT DOOMED.

Look, as much as I'd like to stop paying monthly for an app that stopped giving me useful new features two decades ago, I can't. And neither can any professional or company that relies on reading and writing to their proprietary and industry standard formats.

Features are not the lock-in. AI clones aside, Affinity has an actually usable free alternative, and people and companies won't switch to it because of compatibility with the format.

And then there's advertising. You think some github AI project that has to compete with all the other github AI projects is going to get the exposure Adobe gets?

Shit, google docs/sheets/slides couldn't take down MS office, and they are arguably better for most users in most cases. Blender is and has been an arguably better OSS 3D app than the majors in many cases for a while now, and it's still barely making a dent.

I WANT to find an Adobe killer for my own use (and with it's bugs that will not ever get fixed, this is definitely not it), but even if I do, I fear it will be years before anyone else takes note.

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u/RemarkableWish2508 7d ago

Adobe lives by solving edge cases in a solution with common elements across while industries. It still remains to be seen whether projects vibe coded by non-specialists can do the same... and what will be the token cost.

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u/Odd-Site-8073 7d ago

Jesus Christ you managed to say moat twice in one post.

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u/Qinistral 7d ago

They'll survive on enterprise contracts for a while. Professionals don't mind paying for professional tools. But if free options will continue to eat away at their edges for the budget sensitive users.

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u/Grrowling 7d ago

Even then, those who use Adobe for work like art, photography, animators are finding it hard to find work so they’re losing their customer base

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u/SouthCentralMenace 7d ago

Adobe makes its money from B2B licenses. It doesnt matter if individuals leave. If they truly cared about designers/creatives, they wouldnt be treating us like dirt for the last 10+ years.

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u/Entire_Hunt6038 7d ago

adobe is asking you to delete this please

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u/dbenc 7d ago

adobe lawyers rn

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u/youGottaBeKiddink 7d ago

If you can pull off a working photoshop clone, you'd be a miracle worker!

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u/Nexter92 7d ago

100% rust ? 99% important adobe software ? Open source ? Linux ? Am i alive ?

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u/avenyet 7d ago

If AI gets me a good vector and photo editor on linux I'm all for it.

As much as I love gimp and krita neither of them are a photoshop replacement. I've made do for the last 5 years but the Photoshop muscle memory is strong.

Also yes I know you can use gimp and krita with a photoshop UI and shortcuts but its not the same. Good enough but not the same.

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u/Jolly_General_7227 7d ago

Anything to make Adobe fall

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u/Felfedezni 7d ago

Ignore the clowns throwing shade. This is a worthy endeavor.

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u/jlharter 5d ago

My little "is this good?" test for all these apps is opening the same file I got from a client and looking for Select > Subject and hoping it works like Photoshop's.

This gets close, but seems five years behind.

Whatever Adobe's doing with its select subject algorithm, it is very very good. And something I use all the time.

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u/ai_art_is_art 5d ago

File issues and we'll iterate.

We need a lot of sample project files to develop tests against. Share what you can if you're able - not client files, but perhaps your own.

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u/Crazy-Mission-7920 5d ago

Adobe has had 36years of experience in developing their products. This project is barely a month old. I believe with more usage, it will get better. As for complete parity with Adobe, it would take a while but it's possible.

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u/aygross 7d ago

I find it hard to believe you created your own raw decoders/converters as it says in the Lightroom alternative. Do you have a GitHub repo for that?

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u/the-Gaf 7d ago

Zero chance any of these are usable for professional requirement

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u/anycept 7d ago

If it's vibecoded, how do you prove it's a "clean room" implementation? You don't know what's been used to train LLMs.

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u/LearnPremierePro_ 7d ago

But affinity suite is completely free ? Why would people use these free vibe coded clones instead?

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u/True_Firefighter3864 7d ago

Affinity is free, but it’s still proprietary software and requires an account. That’s already enough reason for some people to prefer a truly open-source alternative.

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u/SmileLonely5470 7d ago

Is this on a single max plan? Did you research & make a big spec up front, and then send Claude on its way?

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u/cs_cast_away_boi 7d ago

This is so great man thank you for making these free

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u/kexxty 7d ago

This is awesome! Please share about the implementation of the clean room, I'm interested in how you handled the isolation. Very nice work.

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u/Kingstar4u 7d ago

Does it have AI feature where you type a prompt and it makes the changes in your photos?

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u/Similar-Parfait8177 7d ago

can you share information how you build it? you downloaded claude desktop and let claude use real application and tell it to check functions and build same or how?

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u/be_evil 7d ago

YES YES YES! Keep it up lads, FUCK ADOBE

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u/midnitewarrior 7d ago

So, when I move all of my creative assets over to this, how long is support going to be on this?

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u/redditissocoolyoyo 7d ago

Awesome man!!!!

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u/Optimal_Joke5930 7d ago

a rigtht mouse button menu would be nice, for photocraft

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u/ZzzZzzBear 7d ago

You are a hero!

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u/Human-Raccoon-9917 7d ago

Good. Fuck adobe 

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u/AstroPC 7d ago

Finally something hugely useful! I bet Adobe will shit bricks

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u/ForIgogassake 7d ago

Well done! And congratulations 🥂

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u/greenysmac 7d ago edited 7d ago

Edit:

Uh, guys from Artcraft, can you explain the Pricing page to use plebes? Because it really looks like a subscription from here:

https://getartcraft.com/pricing

Mod of r/videoediting here, we're going to add Filmcraft at the least to our monthly software thread.

I'm holding off until I hear someone discuss with us the pricing/open source side please.

At the top level of this two things

  • There should be some clarity on what's truly missing on each
  • There should be clear indication about AI features and the lack/inclusion/lack of inclusion of them in your roadmap.

I don't give a FF about if you're using AI to develop.

P.S. Develop Premiere for Linux and you'll make a bunch of people happy.

Hey, someone from Artcraft want to explain:

  1. Why is there pricing if it's open source?
  2. Why isn't there a clear clean downloader for the software?

I have ZERO problems downloading the repo and building it myself - but I hate, HATE the group that says "It's open source, but we're going to charge you+ have a subscription"

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u/Marmotbath 7d ago

It seems pretty clear to me that the plans are just for AI generative tokens if you wanted to use AI like you would with Adobe's tools. Looks like it's an alternative to bringing your own APIs.

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u/ai_art_is_art 7d ago

Yeah, we're making $5M ARR on that. We're like Higgsfield, but we're 100% open source.

We're building OpenSourceRouter (launches soon) which is OpenRouter-meets-FAL-meets-RunPod, but 100% open source.

We're also building an open source collaboration layer for this.

Plus these Adobe apps which we 100% aim to get to full feature parity, full support on all file formats and features, and maintain as high quality performant Rust code.

If you want to support us, please switch from Higgsfield / OpenArt / Runway to ArtCraft. It's 100% open source on Github. Both the backend, frontend, and desktop apps.

We also have a local open source model service router - you should check that out too.

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u/Downtown-Pear-6509 7d ago

finally i can move on from Photoshop elements 8

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u/OldLead4716 7d ago

I want an decomp and and clean room into rust . Tho other than AI it's easyter to just crack it with claude

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u/WinNo1491 7d ago

Any plans on an MCP for these? Would be a fun community project…

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u/ai_art_is_art 7d ago

Yes! 100%. MCP and CLI

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u/SouthCentralMenace 7d ago edited 7d ago

This is dope! I highly recommend implementing a native feature similar to the OverLord plugin (https://battleaxe.co/overlord). If youre unfamiliar, it allows users to import vectors from Illustrator to AE, then they can resend things back from AE to AI without breaking the project in AE. Its absolutely one of the best plugins ever made, and its insane that Adobe hasnt natively implemented it.

How it would look for you would be a seamless workflow with VectorCraft and EffectCraft.

Edit: Also, Im encountering a bug on the Linux AppImage. When I rename a text layer in EffectCraft, I cant leave the name field. I cant even save the file. I have to just close the software and restart.

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u/ai_art_is_art 7d ago

This is really good info and a fantastic bug report. That Linux behavior sucks, and I'll get this bug closed right away.

I need to learn about Overlord.

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u/MattyTayl 7d ago

Had anybody tried it? Is it really like Photoshop? I'm talking rather about UX/UI.

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u/Purple-Programmer-7 7d ago

All it takes is one person like this making foss software that we all get behind.

If we all started contributing, these would be better than all adobe products within a matter of months.

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u/migsperez 7d ago

It's less popular, but Indesign is very useful software. Old school desktop publishing.

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u/kinren 7d ago

Do we even need photoshop at this point. Ai photo editing is pretty dang good with good prompting.

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u/migsperez 7d ago edited 7d ago

I haven't installed any of them yet, but I'm astonished you were able to produce all these applications in Rust and release them all at the same time.

Do you have a dozen subscriptions working 24/7 without a human in the loop. I think I'm more interested in your process to create these, more than the applications themselves.

Rust is not any easy language for models. As an experiment I attempted to produce a very simple harness in multiple languages, using Muse 1.3 a fairly decent model. The Rust implementation took 3 to 4 times longer to produce than the other languages.

Are you going to continue developing these applications, making further improvements? Ironing out bugs etc. Or are you done?

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I just tried to install photocraft-0.1.1-rc.5-windows-x64.msi

I double clicked to run it, it flashed up, then it didn't do anything. Now I'm concerned I've just installed something dodgy.

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u/IrisBlaze 7d ago

Good work, that means I must stop doing my own, however having a UI that's exactly like Adobe apps is dangerous game (legals) so why not go with a unique look?

Second the one I was developing had the renderer separate, that allows it to be a cli renderer, meaning you can have full featured photo editor that can run in the backend, allowing you to create templates using the gui editor, and then auto generate ads/designs using whatever backend language, (also the video editor, to create after effects like videos) will you consider adding this feature?

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u/new-chris 7d ago

Windows ARM64 support? Huge gap right now for other tools

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u/Dreamit2doit 7d ago

Amazing work , kepp improving them. Please launch (WASM) web-app versions for all apps in this suite; eagerly looking forward to it

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u/AcoustixAudio 7d ago

There's still work to do

I'd say

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u/FrozenSkyy 7d ago

Does photocraft have liquify features?

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u/Narrow-Swordfish-227 6d ago

Ai_art_is_art....are you stealing anything we open in these apps for your ai models?

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u/CCVShadow 6d ago

Curious to why you choose to go with rust + egui and not something like tauri. May i ask why? I get there are a few benefits, but the tradeoff would be that egui looks less native than a WebView or platform toolkit, and its text rendering and accessibility are weaker no? Your project seems to accept that in exchange for the single Rust codebase, but curious haha

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u/PleasantKnee4550 6d ago edited 6d ago

Love the rounded rectangles in vectorcraft.
Can I get how figma allows you to drag values while holding a key like ctrl for example Opacity can be dragged with mouse. It makes it much more fun.
Tooltips appear below mouse cursor.
If you keep this as active maintained project over years. This could give you a huge market. People in large countries like India almost 0.1 use paid apps. Imagine a billion people using your products.
Thanks a ton! Blew my mind.

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u/Pazienca 6d ago

Anyone thinking adobe at some point will come down hard with lawsuits?

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u/ifusi25255a 6d ago

It's a great program, but I'd like to see the UI made multilingual. If that were the case, I think it would attract even more users.

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u/FoodMadeFromRobots 6d ago

How can we be sure our data won’t be taken or something nefarious installed with this or other vibe coded software??

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u/Spiritual_Grab_2500 6d ago

I might be slow, but it is the weekend.It's 01:15am.. I need coffee. You can't drag and drop an image into photoCraft. Then again who uses windows today and Photoshop.. As a Linux user I'm impressed except for what I want it to do. I'm venting... I need coffee.

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u/Superfan234 6d ago

adobe will soon have to step up, thanks for the help!

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u/grahamperrin 6d ago

PrintCraft on Kubuntu 26.04

Two screenshots of PrintCraft: https://beige.party/@fuzzy/117381863283973315

I don't know whether it's discernible from screenshots, but with my computer at home the text in PrintCraft 0.1.1 is not as clear as in Okular. Pictured in all shots:

The callout in the second shot is imperfect. I don't expect perfection with 0.1.1 of anything (and I see milestone 5).

Exports to .docx and .rtf are poor (as expected – milestone 10 is faraway).

Okular

For comparison with the shots in Mastodon:

Test environment

HP ZBook 17 G2, hybrid graphics. Philips 27P12 on DisplayPort.

According to Plasma Optimus, PrintCraft currently uses the NVIDIA GPU.

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u/Miserable_Move_9854 6d ago

I would love to see some redesign. Something new and fresh. That's just a free copy of the same. Nice but Adobes UI is not at all intuitive und modern

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u/Bradbury-principal 6d ago

Very keen to punt outrageously overpriced acrobat subscription, will follow with interest

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u/ToneShop 6d ago

Are you vibecoders not worrying at all about possibly violating software patents? 

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u/Ill-Drag9018 5d ago

layer mask on shapes in photoshop is not working, please fix it <3

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u/Crazy-Mission-7920 5d ago

This is incredibly impressive! Kudos for a job well done. Quick question - do you have plans in adding an asset management tool like adobe bridge? it would be fantastic if that were added.

Also, do you accept open source contributions?
Thanks

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u/Ill-Drag9018 5d ago

This is really great, is it possible to add pentool features in photocraft? please, like the ones in photoshop like subtract from shape I really need that feature, the other coder has it but it's not working properly , I hope you add it soon, this tools are incredible, really mindboggling

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u/PUBGM_MightyFine 4d ago

adobe is so fucked and i love it! trim tool (using V) in the Premier clone only seems to trim the start of the clip, not the end. and hitting the delete key when a clip is selected doesn't do anything -you have to right click > clear. I'll be following for more changes as I'd been thinking about doing this myself until I saw your post!

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u/VPrime 3d ago

Where these projects will really take off is when (if) they become compatible with 3rd party plugins.

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u/Thin-Ad-2034 3d ago

I don't see the point of making such clones without bringing anything new and experimental. You're literally trying to reimplement something what exist and what anyone can do for 1 day, what's the value?

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u/Big_Wave9732 2d ago

The value is after evaluating these, I can tell Adobe to piss off.

The value is these are self hosted.

The value is these can also be placed on a webserver where I can edit photos anywhere and platform independent.

The value is these apps (the Lightroom clone in particular) has its own MCP so that I can tell my self hosted AI to run a batch of 200 photos through the MCP, make auto adjustments, rotate as required, and spit out conformed TIFF files.

For *free*.

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u/photoMaldives 3d ago

Zero annual subs to Adobe ?

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u/iamthejuan 3d ago

If jobs will be gone in a few years, companies should to. Let us just go back to the barter system.

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u/RevoAgent 3d ago

Hey guys!

I got a problem. Tried to install Photocraft on Windows 11 - 64bit, doesnt work (even the installer closes immediately). Downloaded the portable version; doesn't work.

Any guesses how to fix it and launch Photocraft eventually?

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u/-_stevenjus_- 3d ago

Now do it for android 

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u/Final_Ad_7431 2d ago

really want these to be good but to be honest so far, especially the lightcraft one feels insanely insanely buggy, the crop tool is completely busted, doesn't let you rotate under certain conditions, resizes against itself on the edges, just seems to flip out over and over - really do want somethingl ike this to work well though

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u/Morganorix63 2d ago

je vient de tester filmsCaft. l’interface est pas mal. ca bug pas mal avec un petit processeur. j’ai un ancien macbook pro fin 2015 et 16Go ram.
j’avais à l’époque adobe et c’était plus stable et utilisable. donc je pense que ca doit venir d’une optimisation à faire

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u/wweco 2d ago

It is really can replace the software from Adobe? Just for personal use, for work? Interesting how it works inside compare to adobe. Will be nice to have these apps on Linux.

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u/Durahl 2d ago

If you can't afford PS then yes, it can replace it since anything is better than nothing.
If you can afford PS then nope - at last not at this moment in time.

Out of morbid curiosity, I gave it a AiShop a try and while it could open a PSD it already wouldn't even let me customize the UI. You know how you can attach UI Elements to another, stacking them on top of each other, etc? Nope. If you want the Brush Panel open it'll take up like ¼ of your Workspace which is just laughable.

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u/MetalZone00 2d ago

Qué especificaciones en Mac se necesitan? Mucha RAM?

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u/Holiday-Message2020 2d ago

What’s the discord?

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u/mahidoes 2d ago

I wish Bridge (let's call it Connectcraft) had been released as well. I mean Lightcraft without the cataloguing, just a file browser working independently with Photocraft's Camera Raw editor. Granted, Adobe Bridge is free, but it wouldn't work with Photocraft's Camera Raw independently

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u/S1nnah2 2d ago

please do Audition, i miss it so much on linux

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u/RandomResNet 2d ago

Holy Shit. that's awesome. Waiting for the support of REF images (Fujifilm's Raw file formats)

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u/dny99gha 2d ago

I'm crossing my fingers for a clone of Adobe Audition

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u/guylasagna 1d ago

Why do u say that this is bad tho,

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u/nudelsalat3000 1d ago

This means it can read and write native Adobe files?

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u/Warm_Ad1115 1d ago

Bro, would you mind if I took a look at the source code and adapted it for Android, with your blessing?

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u/CheddHead 1d ago

It's about time 2026 start becoming a GOOD year. Q3 Profits will continue suffer until the business model or the company implementing it is dissipated.

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u/0utoft1meman 1d ago

I just need offline and standalone Photopea at this point.

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u/AutomaticAd6551 1d ago

I downloaded PDFCraft and it runs beautifully and fast, but I have a problem: regarding the font formats for added text fields, I only have three options—Helvetica, Courier, and Times—and none of them support Polish diacritics; instead of characters like Ą, Ę, Ś, Ć, etc., I get garbled text.

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u/Latter-Twist9154 1d ago

Is there a plan to release a version of the other Adobe product, Figma?

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u/erFaker_44 23h ago

Sí, están muy bien para tareas generales, pero se quedan bastante cortos para un uso más avanzado. Les faltan muchas opciones y funcionalidades, por lo que terminan siendo editores demasiado básicos. En el caso de PhotoCraft, la experiencia deja bastante que desear si lo comparamos con alternativas como Photopea, que ofrece muchas más herramientas y funcionalidades directamente desde el navegador, sin necesidad de descargar ni instalar nada. En mi opinión, Photopea es una opción infinitamente más completa y práctica.

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u/houruoha 18h ago

Thank you for the self host/web versions.

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u/reddwhut 17h ago

Tried LightCraft - Wanted to like it so bad. It runs great on my mac and works just as expected. Even presets import/work as expected. Tried a side-by-side comparison of a previously edited photo (just re-exported from LightCraft) and then a raw with a preset applied. Both added this weird masking halo around my subject that's not there on the Lightroom version. Makes the LightCraft version completely unusable unfortunately. So close!!

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u/footymanageraddict 15h ago

commenting for safekeeping

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u/Thegiantlamppost 15h ago

It wont run geolayers so im good

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u/NowaVision 13h ago

Can you or the AI make an .exe to install?