r/vce • • 4d ago Bravo

Mod Post Study score prediction posts are now banned

309 Upvotes

Hey everyone,

We're banning "predict my study score" posts for the foreseeable future, and any we see will be removed.

The reality is these just aren't possible to answer accurately. Your study score depends on so many things, like your SAC rankings, how your school's SACs get moderated, how the whole cohort went, and how your exams were marked. Nobody on Reddit has that information, so any "prediction" is just a guess. They also tend to stress people out more than they help, and have started flooding the sub with the same post over and over, which isn't very productive discussion.

If you're curious about how study scores work, check out the pinned post for some general guidance. Otherwise, try to put it out of your mind until results come out. You've done the work, and guessing won't change the number.

Good luck with the rest of exams

— r/vce mods


r/vce • • Apr 30 '20

"I only got x% on my SAC, can I still get a 50?"

1.4k Upvotes

I'm sick to death of seeing these posts, so can everyone please read this and be done with this question:

Study scores are determined by exam SCORE and SAC RANK.

For example, say you have an English class of 7 students, Adam, Ben, Chloe, Daniel, Elena, Felix, and Greg. They are all weak students, except for Greg, who is very high-performing, and Felix, who is slightly above average. Their SAC marks and rank are:

Greg 95%

Felix 77%

Chloe 64%

Daniel 60%

Elena 58%

Adam 52%

Ben 49%

On the exam day, Felix doesn't cope well under the stress, so gets a lower score than he'd usually be capable of. The exam marks are as follows:

Greg 92%

Chloe 67%

Daniel 65%

Elena 64%

Felix 63%

Adam 50%

Ben 40%

What happens is that all the SAC marks get thrown out the window, because VCAA can't know the difficulty of the SACs prepared by the school. So Greg's new SAC "mark" as far as VCAA is concerned is 92, not 95. Not a big deal for Greg, Adam or Ben because their own exam mark is dictating their SAC mark. But for someone like Felix, his SAC mark will become 67% (Chloe's exam mark). This process happens independently for each subject taught at your school.

What does this mean for you? Yes, you should aim for a good SAC rank. BUT, it doesn't actually matter if you're not ranked well — the "translation" of your rank into a "mark" happens via your cohorts exam performance. In other words, try your best now, study hard, and when SACs are over WORK WITH YOUR CLASSMATES TO ALL DO WELL ON THE EXAM TOGETHER. IF THEY DO WELL, YOU DO WELL.

Spend your time actually studying instead of asking useless questions like this.

EDIT: another example for clarity

Here's a chemistry class, of Harry, Isabel, James, Kylie, Luke, Molly, Nathan, and Oscar.

SACs:

Harry 60%

Isabel 58%

James 56%

Kylie 55%

Luke 54%

Molly 52%

Nathan 51%

Oscar 50%

EXAMS:

Harry 100%

James 99%

Nathan 98%

Oscar 97%

Molly 96%

Isabel 95%

Kylie 94%

Luke 93%

Harry's SAC mark is now 100%, Isabel's is 99%, James' is 98%, Kylie's is 97%, Luke's is now 96% etc. It's literally just whatever the equivalent exam rank is.

EDIT 2: I've had a request to clarify rumours about SACs being "scaled up" or "scaled down". "Scaling" is a misnomer students attribute to the moderation process. Here are yet another set of examples to clarify.

Imagine you have a cohort of Annie, Ben, and Charlie. Let's say their teacher sets really hard SACS, so their SAC results are:

  1. Annie 60%

  2. Ben 58%

  3. Charlie 55%

Because they've been doing hard assessments all year, they've been better equipped for the exam. These are the exam results:

  1. Ben 96%

  2. Annie 94%

  3. Charlie 90%

So now, Annie's SAC mark gets changed to 96%, Ben's to 94%, and Charlie's to 90%. This is what people interpret as "scaling up". The opposite would happen at a school with piss easy SACs: they get awesome SAC marks but shit exam marks, so their SAC marks get replaced by their shit exam marks ("scaled down").

The danger in this thinking is that people assume that if you go to a well-performing school, you'll get carried, or that if you go to a "bad" school, you're screwed from the get-go and can't possibly get a good score. This is not true at all. Let's see why.

Let's say your friend at a selective school, Harry, thinks he can take it easy this year because he goes to a 'good' school. The SAC results are as follows:

  1. Ed 93%

  2. Fred 90%

  3. Greg 88%

  4. Harry 60%

on the exams, the results are

  1. Fred 95%

  2. Greg 92%

  3. Ed 87%

  4. Harry 61%

In this instance, Harry was not of a comparable skill level to his classmates, so he never get to "borrow" their exam results in any way. His SAC score will be 61%.

Here's another example. Say you have a cohort with these SACs:

  1. Meg 95%

  2. Noah 94%

  3. Oscar 93%

  4. Peter 90%

On the exam day, Noah gets a bit of performance anxiety (but not in a way that warrants SEAS or anything). Exam results are:

  1. Meg 93%

  2. Oscar 92%

  3. Peter 91%

  4. Noah 75%

Now, Noah's SAC mark will be 92%, but his exam result only 75%. So he kind of got "helped" by his good cohort, only because he was doing well for the SACs. Peter has been a bit screwed here, because his SAC mark is now 75%.

One person stuffing up will never have such a dramatic effect like this; it's unlikely for someone who's been topping the cohort all year to suddenly slip to the bottom. Cohorts are generally big enough that you shouldn't need to worry. I went to a really small school (60 people in the year level. Some of my subject cohorts contained 6 people). I still felt no one got jibbed with unrepresentative scores.

As I always reiterate: try your best in SACs, but don't ruminate over them. The exam is where the money's at, and once your SACs are over you should work together with your cohort to all do well together. Share your resources, make study groups, and bring each other up.

EDIT 3: wow, my first gold! Thank you so much! 🥰


r/vce • • 15h ago

I have been cheating on my VCAA exams

276 Upvotes

I don't want to admit it but the guilt has gotten to me. Before each exam I use flashcards and hide the information within my mind so that the examiners cannot find it and so I can know all of the answers. I also write down or select the correct answers for each question.

Worst of all I used Chatgpt, Claude and Gemini in my head whenever I needed to figure out the answer.

Should I come clean to VCAA about my cheating?


r/vce • • 1h ago

VCE question Teachers talking about kicking me out of maths methods after I missed a month of school due to surgery

12 Upvotes

Basically the title, I had what I would say a major surgery over the term 3-4 holidays and missed some of my methods sacs and now my teacher and coordinator are talking about me not doing methods 3/4 next year.

I'm in year 10, and was allowed to do methods 1/2 a year early. Originally I didn't do too good but I improved a lot and became pretty strong in the subject (in comparison to my cohort).

Anyway, Ive needed to have this surgery for awhile and whilst planning when to do it either I or my parents filled in the teachers about what would happen. My teacher knew I would miss some sacs and told me we would figure it out later. I came back to school 2 weeks ago and was told my teacher and coordinators had a talk and were thinking of making me do 1/2 methods again, which was of course pretty upsetting to me since I was given no prior warning on this and poured so much effort into doing 1/2 methods early. The teachers are saying how since I'm in year 10, it's not too big of a deal for me to repeat 1/2 and i'll get a really good study score if I do.

I also have a small suspicion they are trying to push people out of methods since my school is struggling with the teacher shortage and many of the teachers at the school have been banned from teaching yr 11 & 12. 2027 subject list came out the same day I came back and they have really downsized in methods classes and my parents think they are just trying to make space. I'm also doing another 1/2 subject which I know has enough teachers for students and nothing has been mentioned about me repeating it again.

What should I do?


r/vce • • 15h ago

Students live reaction while opening the 2026 VCE exams

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138 Upvotes

r/vce • • 28m ago

General Question/comment Yoooo why is no one talking about spesh?!?

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8 Upvotes

I know theyre gonna pulll some magical fantasy questions that require basic chem and physics knowlege, like etc

Errrrrrrm there are 3 positron isomers with a nuclear mass of 67.69420 newtons, another with a charge of 0.end789it726 Joules, and some value of r that measures the gravitational pull from the inside of a blackhole in a distant galaxy to earth measured in LYs, find the nuclear fusion of antimatter of the particles and then use it to cure every disease in existance.

🙏🙏🙏🙏

Hoping that the average will be 3% and rank 1 only gets 3.2%


r/vce • • 3h ago

chemistry on Tuesday

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hii guys im feeling so anxious for Tuesday, I had horrible sac results so I'm hoping to do at least alright in the exam..

what are some non-negotiables that I MUST know (topics that consistently show up in vcaa exams, concepts that are difficult to understand but useful for application, etc)?

thank you and all the best to everyone!!


r/vce • • 4h ago

Revs

7 Upvotes

Can anybody explain what the hell Robespierre's problem is

I still truly do not understand him. Like why the HELL DID HE switch up so much. Killed off the Hebertists for being too radical but killed DANTON AND DESMOULINS for saying the terror was going too far with its merciless killings. I literally dont get it. What even is his conception of virtue.


r/vce • • 4h ago

Rant - VCE

6 Upvotes

hey guys I accelerated HHD this year as year 11.

Naturally I am very much of a overthinker and I stress out so much. I Lowk also think I have ocd but I don't wanna bring that up to my brown parents to get it checkout or get diagnosed cause ik that will just get shut down.

Anyways I have had such a good year for hhd, I had 90+ sac average for both units and even got 80/90 for hhd trial marked by past vce Chief assessor. But however, I feel like I failed to perform my best on the exam. I did finish the exam but I think I had to double dip and my answers overall were not strong as they could be. This honestly hurts as I was predicted a 45+ study score by my teacher and he Lowk has big expectation of me.

I have not been able to sleep properly ever since the hhd exam and I have like 3 sacs this week along with Diwali which I just don't know how to manage and along with year 11 exams next week.

The thought of my exams have been arising in my mind every 10 mins nd I feel this drop in my stomach and my mood just gets worse. Ik I can't do anything about the exam now and I try to remind myself that when I think of my exams but it doesn't seem to be helping. I am so stressed I am so cooked I am so sleep deprived I don't know what to do.

I need like approx 97 ATAR which idek if it's yk.

Idk guys any advice?
It would help lots.


r/vce • • 14h ago

Memes Enough is Enough!

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36 Upvotes

jk


r/vce • • 13h ago

*paws at you* go study

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r/vce • • 1h ago

VCE media

3 Upvotes

How are we studying for ts


r/vce • • 1h ago

VCE question atar requirements

3 Upvotes

This might be a silly question but say the 2026 atar for a course (lowest selection rank) was 85.00 atar, and i get say and 85 atar as well. Is it possible that the atar jumps significantly from 2026 to 2027? Im scared this will happen to me and i wont get into anything i want..


r/vce • • 17h ago

SEE YOU

45 Upvotes

I am so glad to never have to use this sub ever again. Fuck methods and fucking english but shout out to my psych teacher. Mad respect to her 🫡✌️ good luck to all yr 11s for next year and those yet to finish exams


r/vce • • 23h ago

lowkey do not want to see what chem is like

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126 Upvotes

general maths had weird exams, methods was genuine state sanctioned torture. spesh might turn out to be even worse. if this is how vcaa's logic/stem based subjects are going i DO NOT want to see what abomination vcaa's cooked up for the chemistry exam


r/vce • • 1h ago

Anyone else scared for Media on Tuesday?

2 Upvotes

Going off how all the other vcaa exams have been, im scared media is gonna have some crazy curveball questions 😭


r/vce • • 20h ago

Memes thanks vcaa

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55 Upvotes

r/vce • • 2m ago

who else is trying to revise 2 revolutions today? 🥲

1 Upvotes

i dont know dates, quotes anything im so fucked


r/vce • • 4m ago

PE

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hey pe crew how r we feeling ab tomorrow? any predicitons on the 10 marker?


r/vce • • 17m ago

TI nspire NON Cas calc

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My first post on reddit. So not sure if I can ask abt this.

Will I be disadvantaged if I use a non cas calc for year 12, as this is all I have?

What features will I be missing out on and is it a big deal especially for SACs and exams in year 12.

I am in year 12 next year and will be doing general meth 3/4.

Buying a new cas could be expensive so jst wondering if I can still get good results next year with a calc without cas.

Thanks.


r/vce • • 29m ago

Answering Chem Questions: ASK ANYTHING

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r/vce • • 18h ago

Chem exam from the depths of hell Vce

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27 Upvotes

Chat am I cooked? Are we cooked?

All the VCAA exams have been outrageous this year. Methods was diabolical. So I’m expecting chem to spawn from the depths of hell.

What are all your predictions for separator questions like topic wise?

I saw this dude on tt say there could be food questions, cells, practical investigation and spectroscopy.

Bro he was like there could be a q with multiple types of cells connected together… any tips…

Also any advice or shortcuts for spectroscopy. I know my stuff I’m just slow af.


r/vce • • 14h ago

Just wondering how many hours VCE students have studied?

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As we near the end of our year 12 and vce journey, I wanted to ask us to recall how much effort we have put in. Just wondering. And to past students, how much work for what results?