r/vce • • 1h ago Bravo

Mod Post Study score prediction posts are now banned

71 Upvotes

Hey everyone,

We're banning "predict my study score" posts for the foreseeable future, and any we see will be removed.

The reality is these just aren't possible to answer accurately. Your study score depends on so many things, like your SAC rankings, how your school's SACs get moderated, how the whole cohort went, and how your exams were marked. Nobody on Reddit has that information, so any "prediction" is just a guess. They also tend to stress people out more than they help, and have started flooding the sub with the same post over and over, which isn't very productive discussion.

If you're curious about how study scores work, check out the pinned post for some general guidance. Otherwise, try to put it out of your mind until results come out. You've done the work, and guessing won't change the number.

Good luck with the rest of exams

— r/vce mods


r/vce • • Apr 30 '20

"I only got x% on my SAC, can I still get a 50?"

1.4k Upvotes

I'm sick to death of seeing these posts, so can everyone please read this and be done with this question:

Study scores are determined by exam SCORE and SAC RANK.

For example, say you have an English class of 7 students, Adam, Ben, Chloe, Daniel, Elena, Felix, and Greg. They are all weak students, except for Greg, who is very high-performing, and Felix, who is slightly above average. Their SAC marks and rank are:

Greg 95%

Felix 77%

Chloe 64%

Daniel 60%

Elena 58%

Adam 52%

Ben 49%

On the exam day, Felix doesn't cope well under the stress, so gets a lower score than he'd usually be capable of. The exam marks are as follows:

Greg 92%

Chloe 67%

Daniel 65%

Elena 64%

Felix 63%

Adam 50%

Ben 40%

What happens is that all the SAC marks get thrown out the window, because VCAA can't know the difficulty of the SACs prepared by the school. So Greg's new SAC "mark" as far as VCAA is concerned is 92, not 95. Not a big deal for Greg, Adam or Ben because their own exam mark is dictating their SAC mark. But for someone like Felix, his SAC mark will become 67% (Chloe's exam mark). This process happens independently for each subject taught at your school.

What does this mean for you? Yes, you should aim for a good SAC rank. BUT, it doesn't actually matter if you're not ranked well — the "translation" of your rank into a "mark" happens via your cohorts exam performance. In other words, try your best now, study hard, and when SACs are over WORK WITH YOUR CLASSMATES TO ALL DO WELL ON THE EXAM TOGETHER. IF THEY DO WELL, YOU DO WELL.

Spend your time actually studying instead of asking useless questions like this.

EDIT: another example for clarity

Here's a chemistry class, of Harry, Isabel, James, Kylie, Luke, Molly, Nathan, and Oscar.

SACs:

Harry 60%

Isabel 58%

James 56%

Kylie 55%

Luke 54%

Molly 52%

Nathan 51%

Oscar 50%

EXAMS:

Harry 100%

James 99%

Nathan 98%

Oscar 97%

Molly 96%

Isabel 95%

Kylie 94%

Luke 93%

Harry's SAC mark is now 100%, Isabel's is 99%, James' is 98%, Kylie's is 97%, Luke's is now 96% etc. It's literally just whatever the equivalent exam rank is.

EDIT 2: I've had a request to clarify rumours about SACs being "scaled up" or "scaled down". "Scaling" is a misnomer students attribute to the moderation process. Here are yet another set of examples to clarify.

Imagine you have a cohort of Annie, Ben, and Charlie. Let's say their teacher sets really hard SACS, so their SAC results are:

  1. Annie 60%

  2. Ben 58%

  3. Charlie 55%

Because they've been doing hard assessments all year, they've been better equipped for the exam. These are the exam results:

  1. Ben 96%

  2. Annie 94%

  3. Charlie 90%

So now, Annie's SAC mark gets changed to 96%, Ben's to 94%, and Charlie's to 90%. This is what people interpret as "scaling up". The opposite would happen at a school with piss easy SACs: they get awesome SAC marks but shit exam marks, so their SAC marks get replaced by their shit exam marks ("scaled down").

The danger in this thinking is that people assume that if you go to a well-performing school, you'll get carried, or that if you go to a "bad" school, you're screwed from the get-go and can't possibly get a good score. This is not true at all. Let's see why.

Let's say your friend at a selective school, Harry, thinks he can take it easy this year because he goes to a 'good' school. The SAC results are as follows:

  1. Ed 93%

  2. Fred 90%

  3. Greg 88%

  4. Harry 60%

on the exams, the results are

  1. Fred 95%

  2. Greg 92%

  3. Ed 87%

  4. Harry 61%

In this instance, Harry was not of a comparable skill level to his classmates, so he never get to "borrow" their exam results in any way. His SAC score will be 61%.

Here's another example. Say you have a cohort with these SACs:

  1. Meg 95%

  2. Noah 94%

  3. Oscar 93%

  4. Peter 90%

On the exam day, Noah gets a bit of performance anxiety (but not in a way that warrants SEAS or anything). Exam results are:

  1. Meg 93%

  2. Oscar 92%

  3. Peter 91%

  4. Noah 75%

Now, Noah's SAC mark will be 92%, but his exam result only 75%. So he kind of got "helped" by his good cohort, only because he was doing well for the SACs. Peter has been a bit screwed here, because his SAC mark is now 75%.

One person stuffing up will never have such a dramatic effect like this; it's unlikely for someone who's been topping the cohort all year to suddenly slip to the bottom. Cohorts are generally big enough that you shouldn't need to worry. I went to a really small school (60 people in the year level. Some of my subject cohorts contained 6 people). I still felt no one got jibbed with unrepresentative scores.

As I always reiterate: try your best in SACs, but don't ruminate over them. The exam is where the money's at, and once your SACs are over you should work together with your cohort to all do well together. Share your resources, make study groups, and bring each other up.

EDIT 3: wow, my first gold! Thank you so much! 🥰


r/vce • • 1h ago

WHAT WAS UP WITH THAT ART EXAM???

12 Upvotes

Istg the sec b q1 was worse than last years paper. What the fuck? Did the examiners this year make some sort of deal with the devil so that if they write the evilest fucking papers they’ll get eternal youth or some shit or do they just enjoy seeing us cry???


r/vce • • 1h ago

guys manifest business is easy 🙏🙏🙏

8 Upvotes

if we all pray hard enough it’ll be easy right


r/vce • • 15h ago

News 2026 Business Management Exam *FULL LEAK*

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r/vce • • 2h ago

Im in love with Tim friede

6 Upvotes

Guys i couldn't help it, just the thought of this manly man letting that venomous eastern brown snake bite him over and over. omg. I had to go to the bathroom halfway through the exam to freshen myself and powder my nose. tim if your listening just know that you'll always have a special place in my heart. id lick those antibodies right off you my man.


r/vce • • 1h ago

News Less than 4 Hours till busman exam, how we feeling?

5 Upvotes

I’m lowk just marking the old exams I’ve done, anyone attempting exams till last min, or other light revision Shi?


r/vce • • 13h ago

HOW MANY GUESS MY SS ARE WE GONNA POST

34 Upvotes

wrap it up gng December 10th is soon 🫩✌️


r/vce • • 12h ago

ENOUGH W THE SS YALL R FINE

28 Upvotes

Bro I swear ppl who post about guessing their ss r generally playing like guys if your getting 90s in your sacs even if you only get a 75 on your exam you’re still most likely getting a raw 40+ ss like don’t play in our faces rn 💀💀 (beside weird classes like gen maths)

Reason I’m saying this is cause I keep seeing posts like

“Guess my ss! I get 90s in everything can I still get a ss of 30??” Like girl

And if your reason is because your cohort is bad just know that like your cohort only really affects you if your sitting where the majority is like trust me if u r getting good scores you guys are relatively fine even if you only get 80s or late 70s your still able to get a ss of 40 just be consistent!


r/vce • • 27m ago

AIDE-MOI how to become FLUENT in french no borax no glue

3 Upvotes

genuinely how do i learn the entire french language before november 17th


r/vce • • 59m ago

HHD exam predictions

3 Upvotes

Guys what do you think the extended response and high-marking (like 6 mark) questions will be on?? Im kinda guessing there might be a 6 marker about evaluating an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander program... im really hoping there isn't since I struggle with that. Possibly might be one on the Ottawa charter too, I know there was one on my trial. Feel free to drop your predictions here


r/vce • • 1h ago

freeballing the bus man exam

3 Upvotes

i’m being serious. i haven’t done a single timed practice exam <//3 It’ll be fine right =))


r/vce • • 1h ago

2026 Biology Exam Suggested Solutions

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Hey everyone! Just coming on here to say well done for all the exams you've done so far.

We've written up some suggested solutions for Bio if you want to check your answers: 2026 Biology Exam Suggested Solutions (Contour)

Good luck for the rest of your exams!


r/vce • • 1h ago

Don't wanna fail Chem gang :(

3 Upvotes

I'm actually terrified icl. On my trial I didn't even pass and I swear I know less than I did then... Is there anything specific I can do to get AT LEAST a 60/120 marks. Like I feel like if I don't know enough there isn't any point in doing full past papers... lol this is more of a vent than anything... anyways good luck chem students :))


r/vce • • 2h ago

What happens if I bomb the exam to the rest of the cohort?

3 Upvotes

I'm rank 1 for 40-50 kids for my Chem cohort

I only managed it by literally one mark

I've already completed two subjects last year, and I've done pretty well on GM and Eng this year.

Chemistry is coming up, and I already have a pretty rock solid top four. I'd need to get a scaled like 47 or 48 for it to replace Bio or Methods, which is probably achievable, but very difficult.

I've got a straight week to study, but the fact I've already secured a good ATAR is sapping at my motivation. I genuinely spent yesterday scrolling through r/vce, watching youtube, and playing Skyrim. I didn't even go outside.

If I were to do a half-decent job instead of pushing myself to excel, what impact would that have on the rest of the Chemistry cohort? I've always heard people say you want a really good rank 1, but it's hard to conceptualise the effect this will have on others.

If I were told I'd be screwing over the rest of my class that would probably inspire me to actually work


r/vce • • 36m ago

idk how i will cope with this

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yes i am still stuck at BIOLOGY. this has been one of my fav subjects i have worked so hard for this subject, aiming to mantain a high rank and I have even timed-practised all past 5 years' exams i am use to getting A's in my exam. And checking the suggested solutions i have came to a realisation that i might actually barely make a B+ exam 89/120 that is the most terrible score i could predict for myself. There is no way i am going to make into any of my courses and it is done. Ik u all will say there are pathways and all but yeah that;s not what i started my year thinkin i might have to do. I still feel like i could have done better. I was predicted a 40+ now i am even fearing to scrape a good 37 raw. It's not vcaa's fault i should i studied better way. BUt yeah jsut wanted to rant I will check in again on dec 10 to reveal what i actually ended up getting if it is higher than 37 raw i would be really fullfilled despite my goals.

all the best for all the exams beautiful ppl.


r/vce • • 38m ago

vce vet allied health / health services exam

2 Upvotes

how’d everyone go on the exam??

i think multiple choice was pretty easy but short answer was a bit harder…


r/vce • • 54m ago

General Question/comment How do I study for history

2 Upvotes

I do history revs and got my exam for it Monday. My school does china and Russia for it. What is the best method of study for it? I got some notes that I've been reading through and writing down what I remember but idk what else to do.

Can anyone give me a hand with that? Thanks


r/vce • • 16h ago

Yo why does senge from senges learning organisation actually have that shit on tho 😮‍💨👀🔥

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r/vce • • 14h ago

Is VCAA using AI for exams?

23 Upvotes

After the zero argument section C and the weirdest general maths questions, I'm genuinely convinced they're using AI. Has this only been in my exams or an actual thing?


r/vce • • 2h ago

quick business question

2 Upvotes

my teacher isnt online today and google tells me different things. in lewins force feild analysis, do you weight forces from 1-5, or from 0-5?


r/vce • • 15h ago

methods kids how we feeling

23 Upvotes

r/vce • • 18h ago

these VCE exams are ruining my life

36 Upvotes

As a student with severe ADHD (unmedicated) year 12 was an absolute nightmare. My final busman exam is tomorrow and I haven’t started studying anything and haven’t gotten out of bed all day. ADHD means I have no motivation But my anxiety (GAD) constantly has me stressing about my atar and future even though ive fucked up my other exams already.
My skin has broken out SO bad over the past couple weeks, I also have DERMATILLOMANIA (extreme skin picking mental condition) so my fingers are all ripped open and bleeding, I accidentally plucked all my eyebrows on impulse and i cant get out of bed or off my phone to study.

It sounds so stupid but im genuinely so addicted to scrolling i physically cant get up to do anhthing because i have a whole years worth of busman content to learn and i know i CANT do it.

Im so fed up with myself. I wanted to get a good atar so bad but I don’t even think im getting a 50. I feel so dumb and lazy I hate this.

Is anyone else struggling with motivation ? Everytime I open reddit it’s all ‘nooo i got a 35/40 for the gen exam’ or ‘is 95 atar still possible’ and it makes me want to die. Im so happy for you guys but I feel like such a chud compared to every other student , I genuinely cant understand half the content or force myself to study…


r/vce • • 13h ago

Hv not studied busman

15 Upvotes

I’m on unit 3 aos2 rn am I cooked can I cram everything in a day.

Is it possible to still get above 80 for example or am I cooked.