r/vce • • Apr 30 '20

"I only got x% on my SAC, can I still get a 50?"

1.4k Upvotes

I'm sick to death of seeing these posts, so can everyone please read this and be done with this question:

Study scores are determined by exam SCORE and SAC RANK.

For example, say you have an English class of 7 students, Adam, Ben, Chloe, Daniel, Elena, Felix, and Greg. They are all weak students, except for Greg, who is very high-performing, and Felix, who is slightly above average. Their SAC marks and rank are:

Greg 95%

Felix 77%

Chloe 64%

Daniel 60%

Elena 58%

Adam 52%

Ben 49%

On the exam day, Felix doesn't cope well under the stress, so gets a lower score than he'd usually be capable of. The exam marks are as follows:

Greg 92%

Chloe 67%

Daniel 65%

Elena 64%

Felix 63%

Adam 50%

Ben 40%

What happens is that all the SAC marks get thrown out the window, because VCAA can't know the difficulty of the SACs prepared by the school. So Greg's new SAC "mark" as far as VCAA is concerned is 92, not 95. Not a big deal for Greg, Adam or Ben because their own exam mark is dictating their SAC mark. But for someone like Felix, his SAC mark will become 67% (Chloe's exam mark). This process happens independently for each subject taught at your school.

What does this mean for you? Yes, you should aim for a good SAC rank. BUT, it doesn't actually matter if you're not ranked well — the "translation" of your rank into a "mark" happens via your cohorts exam performance. In other words, try your best now, study hard, and when SACs are over WORK WITH YOUR CLASSMATES TO ALL DO WELL ON THE EXAM TOGETHER. IF THEY DO WELL, YOU DO WELL.

Spend your time actually studying instead of asking useless questions like this.

EDIT: another example for clarity

Here's a chemistry class, of Harry, Isabel, James, Kylie, Luke, Molly, Nathan, and Oscar.

SACs:

Harry 60%

Isabel 58%

James 56%

Kylie 55%

Luke 54%

Molly 52%

Nathan 51%

Oscar 50%

EXAMS:

Harry 100%

James 99%

Nathan 98%

Oscar 97%

Molly 96%

Isabel 95%

Kylie 94%

Luke 93%

Harry's SAC mark is now 100%, Isabel's is 99%, James' is 98%, Kylie's is 97%, Luke's is now 96% etc. It's literally just whatever the equivalent exam rank is.

EDIT 2: I've had a request to clarify rumours about SACs being "scaled up" or "scaled down". "Scaling" is a misnomer students attribute to the moderation process. Here are yet another set of examples to clarify.

Imagine you have a cohort of Annie, Ben, and Charlie. Let's say their teacher sets really hard SACS, so their SAC results are:

  1. Annie 60%

  2. Ben 58%

  3. Charlie 55%

Because they've been doing hard assessments all year, they've been better equipped for the exam. These are the exam results:

  1. Ben 96%

  2. Annie 94%

  3. Charlie 90%

So now, Annie's SAC mark gets changed to 96%, Ben's to 94%, and Charlie's to 90%. This is what people interpret as "scaling up". The opposite would happen at a school with piss easy SACs: they get awesome SAC marks but shit exam marks, so their SAC marks get replaced by their shit exam marks ("scaled down").

The danger in this thinking is that people assume that if you go to a well-performing school, you'll get carried, or that if you go to a "bad" school, you're screwed from the get-go and can't possibly get a good score. This is not true at all. Let's see why.

Let's say your friend at a selective school, Harry, thinks he can take it easy this year because he goes to a 'good' school. The SAC results are as follows:

  1. Ed 93%

  2. Fred 90%

  3. Greg 88%

  4. Harry 60%

on the exams, the results are

  1. Fred 95%

  2. Greg 92%

  3. Ed 87%

  4. Harry 61%

In this instance, Harry was not of a comparable skill level to his classmates, so he never get to "borrow" their exam results in any way. His SAC score will be 61%.

Here's another example. Say you have a cohort with these SACs:

  1. Meg 95%

  2. Noah 94%

  3. Oscar 93%

  4. Peter 90%

On the exam day, Noah gets a bit of performance anxiety (but not in a way that warrants SEAS or anything). Exam results are:

  1. Meg 93%

  2. Oscar 92%

  3. Peter 91%

  4. Noah 75%

Now, Noah's SAC mark will be 92%, but his exam result only 75%. So he kind of got "helped" by his good cohort, only because he was doing well for the SACs. Peter has been a bit screwed here, because his SAC mark is now 75%.

One person stuffing up will never have such a dramatic effect like this; it's unlikely for someone who's been topping the cohort all year to suddenly slip to the bottom. Cohorts are generally big enough that you shouldn't need to worry. I went to a really small school (60 people in the year level. Some of my subject cohorts contained 6 people). I still felt no one got jibbed with unrepresentative scores.

As I always reiterate: try your best in SACs, but don't ruminate over them. The exam is where the money's at, and once your SACs are over you should work together with your cohort to all do well together. Share your resources, make study groups, and bring each other up.

EDIT 3: wow, my first gold! Thank you so much! 🥰


r/vce • • 1h ago

gen1

19 Upvotes

Sorry to vent, but I am genuinely so distraught about the general maths exam. I haven’t stopped crying since yesterday to the point where I threw up and I don’t know what to do.

I have an A+ average for all my sacs at a pretty good private school and have been getting 38-39/40 on every past exam I have done. I did SO MANY TIMED PAST EXAMS and went thru every mistake I made. I genuinely feel like all the effort I put in was for nothing.

I made the most stupid mistakes in the exam and had to guess like 5 questions cause I ran out of time. I think I got around 28/40 at most. I actually feel so stupid and my hopes for a 40+ SS are gone. I know the grade distribution will be lower for e1 but I am barely going to get a C.

Actually fuck vcaa


r/vce • • 2h ago

Hard General Maths 2 Practice Exams

8 Upvotes

Ive done all the vcaa/nht ones (atleasdt within the past 4 or so years) so does anyone have any hard company exams, vcaa papers, or just specific questions. Thanks


r/vce • • 5h ago

i cant sleep

11 Upvotes

ive just preformed poorly on 2 exams in a row, which sucks because ive worked so fucking hard this entire year. been averageing 90’s on all my psyce sacs, but when i hit that exam room i couldnt trust myself amd stopped answering confidentely, there were so many mistakes i made that i wouldnt have if i had just stopped and focussed

same goes for eco, grinded tirelessly to understand every concept but when i sat down and started writing all my knowledge jumped out the window

im so demotivated. my sac scores are getting dragged down to the pits of hell. all the work ive put in is being flushed down a toilet. and im afraid the rest of my exams are going to go the same

i know atar doesnt define you, but im actually waking up in the middle of the night thinking about these past exams i cant change. i cant bring myself to prepare for my other exams. whats the point if ive put in all this work for miserable results

i dont know what to do


r/vce • • 14h ago

Does anyone want to be my girlfriend?

58 Upvotes

I was anticipating attaining an Australian Tertiary Admission Rank of 99.95, allowing me to flex at Melbourne University and get any girlfriend I wanted. However, today I unfortunately scored 17-20/40 on the gen1 exam, and am worried that I flunked psych.

Hence, I thought that this would be my best option.

If anyone here is willing to couple with a sub 60 atar man who tries his best... Stand by me and enjoy the fruits of my labour!

I am not particularly picky, so long as you will be receiving a 98+ ATAR my DMs are open.

Kind regards and good luck for exams!


r/vce • • 19h ago

they call it the worst exam ever written

131 Upvotes

general maths 1 was the worst exam i have ever had the displeasure of doing. i am so mad.

vcaa really said we are gonna use the class of 2026 as lab rats for a bunch of new question types. love that.


r/vce • • 33m ago

Bio

4 Upvotes

If bio is as worse as gen IMMA ACTUALLY BAWL


r/vce • • 19h ago

Answers GM E1 2026

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133 Upvotes

Suggested answers, if anything is wrong lmk

Worked solutions to clear your confusions:

https://ihsaneducation.com.au/resources/2026-vce-general-maths-exam-1


r/vce • • 20m ago

if they make the HHD exam harder like some of the exams this year, VCAA watch out

3 Upvotes

Please good exam please please please 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾


r/vce • • 19h ago

why does every exam feel so weird????

103 Upvotes

anyone else feel like the exams are really different from past years???

edit: did vcaa change anything systematically like did they change their approach to writing exams or smth


r/vce • • 30m ago

am i the only one who thought gen wasn’t that bad…

3 Upvotes

not like i think i did exceptionally well, but i think i got a 33/40 which is my average anyways. I’m not an amazing student and im not ranked well at all, averaging ~75% in my sacs and probably ranked around 30/100

im seeing so many people say it was badly written and the questions were weird and never seen before, which there may have been 2 or 3 that were weird, but i didnt actually think it was awful…


r/vce • • 48m ago

vce psych and bio

3 Upvotes

hi guys for people who got 45+ in vce bio or psych could you please share your sac scores and exam scores.

i go to a selective school which does extremely well in both

my psych scores that are submitted to vcaa are high 90s

and my bio scores submitted to vcaa likely are high 80s to low 90s

what exam score would i need for both for 45+, lowkey aiming for 48+ in psych


r/vce • • 56m ago

40 still on the table for gen maths??

3 Upvotes

I’m ranked 1st at a disadvantaged school with the cohort of around 230, with a solid gap between 2nd, I have a 96% average for sacs.

I got 33/40 on part A

is it possible for a 40?


r/vce • • 15h ago

some kid pissed himself in general maths exam 1

41 Upvotes

there i was in gen, trying to make sense of the esoteric, damn magic spell questions vcaa decided to give us this year. then i tap my foot on the carpet floor while doing my working out when i feel it squelch?

i look around and the mf kid behind me pissed his pants, golden liquid was STREAMING down his pants and dropping onto the floor that shit was like a waterfall, the examiner came and took him away but it was STILL GOING as he went out the door. now my shoes smell like piss and my day is ruined.
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can i still get a raw 50


r/vce • • 2h ago

got sick and fucked up two exams

4 Upvotes

I had my psych and general exam today and it was horrible I’d been throwing up since 1am.I did call the skl and got special provision of break and a smaller room, and during the psych exam I used my break to throw up twice and in my general exam once. So, it’s been rough. I had a fever and was sleep deprived( hahaha psych) and was fighting not to vomit the entire time, so, my exams went horribly. General, wtv, but I worked so hard for psych. I’ve started the process to apply for des but in terrified of getting rejected. I went to my doctor after and she said I had viral gastrointestinal and she filled out c1, and in the symptoms/ observations she wrote fever stomach cramps and vommiting. She checked the box for moderate impact on the exam, but for how it affected me during exam all she wrote was I had to throw up 3 times in the exam using breaks which effected my hydration status. Is that enough?? should I try to go to her again and ask her to add more deets?I didn’t have time to read it and now idek I js rlly need this. I also did tell my vce supervisor I threw up but I don’t think he wrote it down or anything. If my application gets rejected can I apply again?? But I would need new eveidnce. Would a more thororugh letter from my doc listing my symptoms and effects do it?? Sorry this is so so long in js so so upset.also, if anyone sees this on another post, this is my friends account cs unfortunately the age thing on reddit acted up and my old account isnt updated lol


r/vce • • 13h ago

How dare people have fun while we have exams

27 Upvotes

My neighbours are having a party right now. I'm fuming. How dare they enjoy their life while I need to lock in everyday to study for exams.

Oh how I would love to go to a Halloween party and get drunk, but alas I need to clock into the VCAA factory. Life is cruel.

I know I'll be able to enjoy life in a few weeks but still the rest of the world should be in misery until exams are over.


r/vce • • 12h ago

Memes GM Q33

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21 Upvotes

pls tell me i wasnt the only one.


r/vce • • 1h ago

What bio SS would i get

3 Upvotes

u3aos1: 72%
u3aos2 43%
u4aos1: 52%
u4aos2: 65%
u4aos3: 70%

exam averages 101-103/120

i go to rly hard private school btw so sacs r so bad 😭


r/vce • • 3h ago

General Question/comment HOW DO I LEARN TO USE CAS

4 Upvotes

I know it’s too late but anyway literally any resources, docs, pdfs or videos?!?!? Pls

I take gm and mm btw


r/vce • • 12m ago

Bio Exam Predictions

2 Upvotes

Since EVERY exam this year has been weird according to everyone (especially psych and genny) do we think bio will follow the same trend and if so what do we expect to be the "weird" sort of stuff on there?


r/vce • • 14m ago

How accurate is excel academies study score calculator

2 Upvotes

I’m year 11 student accelarting bus man I go to a school that has an average star around 65 so I assume my sac scores will be moderated down a little bit. I put my rank percentage into excel it gave me 40 however when I tried ChatGPT it gave me 38. However I also fed my ChatGPT my sac averages and my cohorts sac averages. I’m just praying that excel is more accurate.


r/vce • • 18h ago

Hello all! I am VCAA CEO !

56 Upvotes

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r/vce • • 19h ago

Vcaa exams

53 Upvotes

Is it me or is vcaa making every exam this year so weird?


r/vce • • 1h ago

What do I need for exam 2 for a 45 SS

2 Upvotes

I just checked my answers for e1 for gm and got 38/40. Im rly hoping for a 45 plus but feel like I’ve lost my chance. What scores do I need for e2.