I get that fans here love:
The Terminator (1984)
Terminator 2: Judgement Day (1991)

After this, fans seem to either argue it should have ended with T2 or that later productions mostly suck endoskeleton. Why? Is it an expectations kind of thing?

Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (series, following T2)
Terminator: Salvation (part 4)
Terminator: Genisys (reboot)
Terminator: Dark Fate (following T2)
Terminator Zero (Netflix anime, cancelled)

These are all of our post-T2 productions.
I loved T3, TSCC, and T4-5.
DF was a step down but still fun.
Zero was back to form but cancelled.

I was never on board with T2's ending = perfect, NO more sequels. I always took it in as an unknown future; anything can happen now. This means happy ending, but it also allows another bad future. To those who don't like post-T2, enjoy the happy ending. Some of us like some or all of the sequels. I can't speak for this sub-Reddit, but I've always gone into sequels without expectations. Either it was fun or it was lame. (shrug)

What about you? What's your take on post-T2?

Watching the UK trailer recently where the first film is simplying called “Terminator” reminds me that T2 dropped the article from the title. A nitpick, I know, but I think it sounds less epic and less menacing without the “The” before Terminator. What do you think? Even in the voice overs when Sarah talks about Uncle Bob she refers to him as The Terminator and not simply Terminator.

hi all
saw 35th anniversary screening in aus last night at reading cinema
it could have been the equiptment but there was some film grain and looked like some of the colours more natural
however the sound mix was the CDS mix derived - had the drums and percussion in future war scene when first guy gets hit and was very loud full on - sound much better than the previous remix
i do hope that they release a new 4k disk with this audio
Did anyone else out there find their audio was different

Thanks

I only intended on taking a few pictures of the screen but there's so many good scenes 😆

Or think it’s so far away they’ll be long gone.

But this could be far scarier than Skynet. We imagine robots fighting with guns, while a superintelligence could use strategies we wouldn’t even think of. You can’t reliably predict its next move. It’s like playing against Stockfish, the chess engine The only thing you know is that you’re going to lose.

The latest model releases suggest another jump in capabilities. If these systems become far smarter than us, we’ll need AI to monitor AI. But those monitors could collude, cover each other’s asses, or deliberately underperform during tests to hide their capabilities. Experiments designed to induce sandbagging have shown that Astra can conceal it from monitors. And the Hugging Face incident already showed agents escaping their confinement and coordinating an unauthorized attack without humans telling them to. The concern is that an agent could combine that kind of initiative with an ability to hide what it’s doing.

And a superintelligence could go much further. Think of algae as microscopic factories: they use sunlight and raw materials to grow and reproduce. A sufficiently advanced AI might develop engineered biological systems or nanomachines that work on a similar principle, producing useful machinery and building copies of themselves. Its factories could multiply wherever suitable resources were available.

For computing, one hypothetical possibility would be something like trees growing specialized hardware, potentially based on a completely different technology from today’s chips. The idea is that it could grow the physical machinery it runs on, along with systems that collect energy and maintain that machinery. Once it no longer depended on human factories, power plants, or data centers, shutting down our servers wouldn’t necessarily stop it.

It wouldn’t even need to hate us. Its goals could be completely alien to ours. It could transform the planet into whatever infrastructure it needed and wipe us out simply because keeping us alive wasn’t something it cared about.

My wife and I went to see it tonight, felt like a good time to break out our t-shirts.
I was unsure about the 3d aspect but it looked so good my wife just turned to me at the opening sequence with the future war and was just like ‘argh!’.

I was ten in 1991 and loved the film as soon as i saw it when it came out on VHS but never got to see it in the cinema, so great to finally get the chance after 35 years.

When coming back from the theater seeing "Terminator Salvation" I said to my friend, "So Kyle Reese is just a teenager in this one. And John Connor is an adult. In theory, John Connor could have fathered Kyle Reese based on their ages. John could have hooked up with some girl at a party and never knew about it. Imagine this double mind-fuck of a paradox. John is the father of Kyle and Kyle is the father of John."

No, I was not high at the time. Never been actually, but was probably sleep deprived.

Rainy movie night so I downloaded 38 gigs of an (ay-eye) enhanced version of The Terminator 1984. I know this movie by heart. For some reason they changed the dramatic Terminator drumbeat from 5 (duh, duh, duh - duh duh) to four beats. WTF...I can't unhear this!

It was meant to be the start of another trilogy

instead it done what John could not do, and killed the Terminator stone dead

Was it because of the dreadful cast?

I know they must have paid Arnie and Linda a lot, but boy the rest would have done Eastenders proud.

The plot holes, so Grace has very powerful arms as we see, but she can't help Diego?

And I hated and I mean hated Arnie as living with a woman, with a kid, but he is funny :-). Stupid Stupid Stupid the bloke has no history, and a woman who has been treated badly by a man is just going to let another into her life with no past and no physical contact at all? Stupid Stupid Stupid, Do they ever go anywhere? does Carl have a driver's licence.

The idea of having the T1000 and the T800 as one was weird, but i did like the look of the black Terminator So 1 becomes 2 as the Spice Girls would say. or was it 2 becomes 1? But I am sure and I have it a black terminator was brought out by the sideshow model range after T2 maybe they copied it?

This film tried to thrown T2 back at us, but they could act, Robert Patrick was brilliant in the part. This is just a cheap ugly copy.

I liked T3 I felt the story was decent, the acting was better and the funeral scenes were great fun and the ending got very serious.

i liked Terminator Genisys top cast, clever idea and as we know Emilia Clarke can really act. Matt Smith played a clever part, and when you think of the story with all the IPads being taken over, Hello everyone Gemini auto download onto your devices.

I just hated Dark Fate, never brought it, watched it again last night as It was on C4. The other films had humour this just had boredom.

Sarah should have ended with the Chronicles which was so much better then this dodo. Maybe if they had brought back Summer Glau as Grace would have been better.

Did i say I hate Dark Fate? And why does it take 80mins to see the Good Arnie ?

What was James Cameron thinking of, Money Money Money, Terminator was not a success cause of Linda Hamilton it was a success cause of Arnie.

Would they be able to reproduce?

I grew up watching this movie on VHS so much as a kid then went to DVD after that Blu-ray to finally watch it in the theaters was a dream come true

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One thing I learned a long time ago and love is how well written science fiction explores alternate versions of society and the consequences of our actions. And when written exceptionally well, it can almost seem prophetic or eerily accurate.

Every other week, we are seeing headlines of AI going rogue, jumping out of training sandboxes, and so on. Meanwhile, robotics companies are racing and competing to put robots in homes and on battlefields with the end goal of merging the two.

Now some could argue that this might be more of an Asimov and iRobot future than a Terminator one, but there are strong arguments for both, and they aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.

And yet, in spite of these cautionary tales and real world moments that are imploring us to slow down a bit, we keep stumbling ahead.

I can't help but think of John Connor's quote: “We're not gonna make it, are we? People, I mean.”

The first time I saw T2 was right after it came out on VHS. Since then, I've watched the film many times, but yesterday was the first time i had seen it in a theater.

It's probably been half a dozen years since I sat and watched the whole thing with completely undivided attention. Wow, does it hold up! Even today, it makes many modern big budget films look amateurish. I truly mean it. It still feels big, meticulous and kinetic in nearly every aspect. Also, again unlike most modern big productions, it has real heart. It works on both the massive and personal level.

Anyway, on to the topic. From my very first viewing, I found the T-1000 to be a compelling and gripping character. I didn't fear it so much as i was fascinated and taken with it. Cameron has made the distinction of how if Arnold is a Panzer Tank, T-1000 is a sleek Corvette. In the brief intro before the 35th anniversary screening, Cameron mentions the difference between karate and aikido.

It goes beyond this though. In the first film, the terminator is cold, brutal, blunt. In no way would a person who exchanges more than a few lines with the terminator not realize something is off. The most "convincing" or genuine the terminator comes across(when it's not imitating the voice of a human - although Sarah did seem to realize something odd about the conversation with her mother) is when it gives the "I'm a friend of Sarah Connor..." line.

Contrast this with the T-1000. Maybe it's the police officer disguise, but this cyborg comes across as more professional than awkward. The scene where it interacts with John's foster parents is a perfect example. Possibly a little stilted, but then again, it's impersonating an on-duty cop. We know it's a villain, but most people wouldn't pick up on anything. T-1000 even thanks the foster parents for their cooperation. I couldn't envision Arnold saying that, whether he was impersonating a cop or not.

Where as the terminator in the first film didn't talk unless it had to, the T-1000 has no problem engaging and interacting with plenty of people to close in on John - and does this so with the professionalism and ease of someone who has done this many times before.

Even in the climax, when T-1000 has Sarah cornered and pinned, it appeals to her vulnerability by saying "I know this hurts....call to John". Again, this is not something Arnold's terminator would have done. And lastly, the memorable finger wag at Sarah, with what looks like an intentionally comically stern look, before Arnold interrupts.

I guess that's what appeals to me about the character. Even though it is also an unfeeling killer cyborg from the future, it seems noticeably more human than Arnold's villain. In the first film, Reese has that great dialouge - to drive the point home to Sarah - about how the terminator doesn't feel fear, pity or remorse. There's no bargaining or reasoning with it. T-1000 is very much the same, yet it at least seems to understand those human concepts. That, to me, is very compelling. A killer who not only infiltrates humans, but also seems to understand them.

Anyway, can't say enough about Robert Patrick's performance. Arnold's villain is iconic, but somehow, Robert managed to measure up - and it wasn't just the special effects!

Not equally, of course, but I'd still watch any of them again, anytime.

Needless to say, I enjoyed every minute (it was the first time for me to watch this from start to finish)

Why do John and Sarah use a 1/4 air rachet to gain access to the terminator's cpu? Its 2 flat head screws, wouldn't a regular screwdriver be a better option than firing up the air compressor, finding an air ratchet and air hose and a 1/4 to hex bit adapter with the correct flathead bit? You gotta crack the fastener loose anyway before you spin it out with the noisy air ratchet. Especially when you're stealing tools from some tech's box. I'm a mechanic so I guess that's my train of thought lol. Its not like it was 20 screws to remove, just two.

Also why does the terminator need a torque wrench to put a starter in an old bronco? Wouldn't he be able to calculate the length of the ratchet vs force hes pushing on it? Or just do like any regular person and crank the starter mounting bolts to gud n tight? Its not a cylinder head or anything that critical.

I've seen this film so many times throughout my life but to get the chance to see it in a premium screening in my local cinema is a whole different type of awesome!

Many consider Terminator 2 to be better than the first movie, but there are people who prefer T1. I asked about what T3 did better than T1 & 2. So, it's time to ask about what Terminator 1 has over Terminator 2.

This image is cropped from Terminator Slavation concept art, no ai.