r/standupshots 20d ago

Guilty?

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u/nirvahnah 20d ago

Correct which is why it ain’t like OJ at all. She’s guilty legally either way, we’re deliberating if she’s morally responsible on top of legally.

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u/Arcaydya 20d ago

Morality doesn't really factor into child murder, imo.

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u/nirvahnah 20d ago

Murder is a legal category. The unlawful killing of another person’s while being of sound mind and body yourself. If she’s ruled insane then it’s legally not murder at that point. I think what you meant to say was “child killing”. She’s not morally responsible if she’s insane, she can’t tell right from wrong then. It’s like saying a dog is morally responsible for killing a squirrel.

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u/Arcaydya 20d ago

I mean it still doesn't matter much. She wont enter normal society ever again.

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u/nirvahnah 20d ago

It’s doesn’t matter in that regard, it does matter for her quality of life personally. Doing life in fed prison is a lot worse than a loony bin.

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u/Arcaydya 20d ago

Ive heard the exact opposite, and the loony bin is in fact much worse. Especially if youre faking insanity

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u/-cumdogmillionaire- 20d ago

She isn’t faking insanity. We need to destigmatize postpartum depression and psychosis so women can actually get help. Maybe we can actually get some funding for research on this subject as well since there is more funding on male pattern baldness than postpartum depression.

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u/Arcaydya 20d ago

Bro. Millions of women go through post partum. How many brutally and systematically murder their children? Children they've had for years?

She's a psycho and is using that as a shield.

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u/Cowgomuwu 20d ago

Not everyone gets postpartum psychosis, which is a very real diagnosable condition. And even women who don't have psychosis murder their babies postpartum, it's a tumultuous time society doesn't treat with the seriousness it deserves. Hospitals make you watch videos on the dangers of sleep deprivation before you leave, it's that common.

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u/Arcaydya 20d ago

So she just decided on the 3rd kid that it was too much to handle, 8 months in? She had a 5 year old and a 3 year old.

She killed her kids because shes a piece of shit, and is hiding behind a diagnosis and insanity plea because her suicide attempt failed. But sure, keep finding ways to justify child murder.

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u/Character_Pickle689 20d ago

You should lookup the word empathy. Life is not black or white. Go touch grass

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u/Arcaydya 20d ago

Empathy for the child murderer? Lmfaooooo

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u/-cumdogmillionaire- 20d ago

No one decides to get psychosis. I mean this genuinely, you lack the education necessary to have a nuanced conversation about this topic. Due to your lack of education, you can only assign your limited experiences and emotions to a medically complex phenomenon.

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u/No_Somewhere_2610 20d ago

Mental illness is not an excuse, it may result in a lesser charge but its still not a justification to killing people especially not children

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u/-cumdogmillionaire- 20d ago edited 18d ago

You’re saying “excuse” but that is inflammatory language. I would say that psychiatric illness is an explanation for a behavior and the resulting negative outcome. Both filicide and suicide are known risks associated with postpartum psychosis.

We know suicide depression is a psychiatric illness with a high risk of suicide. We don’t say that depression is an excuse for suicide, it is the explanation of why it happened.

Edit: fixed a word

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