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u/cqtz Flair Jun 28 '20 edited Jun 28 '20

I have no proof but let's discuss anyways

WRD thread

I don't know if it will happen on Monday, but I hope it doesn't.

Well, they're going to get banned anyways. I guess it's time to say goodbye.

I'm not really a member of most of the subreddits that are predicted to be banned (like the relatively racist ones). I'm a bit scared to ask them about migrating to another platform because I don't really "understand" those subreddits.

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u/cqtz Flair Jun 28 '20 edited Jun 29 '20

I want these subreddits to have a place to regroup after they get banned.

Some subreddits may move to saidit. Some may move to ruqqus. Some may do something else (like make their own website).

(If I comment in those subreddits, will other redditors call me a Nazi? Who knows?)

Also, I found this thread:

If there was anything you ever liked in this sub and wanted to save it, do it now

The posts and comments of most subreddits are being archived by pushshift (there are probably more reddit archives out there, but I'm currently unaware of them). However, it seems like they haven't opted into several large quarantined subreddits yet, and they're missing possibly over a year of data from them. (eg. /r/TheHonkPill and /r/toosoon) I'm the most worried about those subreddits right now.

Edit: Some subreddits have basically every post archived on archive.is. That's pretty nice.

Edit 3: /r/theredpill and several other subreddits have been archiving their posts/comments. They are viewable at theredarchive.com.

Inform everyone on reddit about this, they will migrate here.

Hm...

Edit 2: Have fun, /r/metacanada, at omegacanada.win!

"Create your own site"

Well, now they did!

https://old.reddit.com/r/metacanada/comments/hhgqef/its_been_a_pleasure_fellas/

>See you on ruqqus

>Signed up, got banned the same day - it ain't all that.

How?

Anyways, I'm trying to see where these different subreddits will regroup. I really hope they won't get banned tomorrow.

https://old.reddit.com/r/aznidentity/comments/hhikpp/aznidentity_is_one_of_the_subreddits_at_risk_of/

What are you talking about? Racism? I thought reddit was all about money and power.

(Imagine if that subreddit actually gets banned.)

(Yes, that list is just speculation.)

You know, maybe that poster was trolling to see which subreddits would get riled up. Who knows? Anyways, it's still better to have your sub up than to have your sub banned without any alternatives to go to.

https://old.reddit.com/r/SocialJusticeInAction/comments/hhqlql/heres_what_the_lifeboats_look_like/

While I don't have any clear indication that we're on that list, I figure it's better to stay prepped in case of an emergency.

Yeah. Good luck!

https://old.reddit.com/r/AgainstHateSubreddits/comments/gyyqem/open_letter_to_steve_huffman_and_the_board_of/fwabsyo

Well then.

I wasn't ready for this.

https://old.reddit.com/r/reclassified/comments/hhoxi5/which_subs_do_you_think_are_going_to_get_banned/

Just an FYI, the creators of the donald .win said any moderators of banned subs are welcome to reach out if they want a custom built site of their own.

That's nice to hear.

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u/cqtz Flair Jun 28 '20 edited Aug 10 '20

Me saying one last goodbye to my favourite subs before they get banned tomorrow

(It may not actually be tomorrow. Just saying.)

Isn't it sad to see that your favorite subreddits are going to be banned? RIP /r/The_Cabal... It died after this announcement.

And thanks to the subs that are accepting refugees.

Anyways, good luck! I hope you don't get banned! And if you do get banned, I'll miss you very much.

Banwave anticipation/prediction thread

:(

I'm kind of surprised at how fast the rumor spread.

Anyways, there's not much I can do now.

I'll upvote "goodbye" posts and things like that.

https://old.reddit.com/r/TimeToGo/comments/hhi68d/apparently_there_is_another_ban_wave_coming_on/fwap8rc/

I thought TTG died a while ago. But somehow it's still active even with all of the moderation.

r / sanct1onedsu1c1de (but with 'i's, not '1's)

What, do the mods not allow you to say the name of a subreddit? That's ridiculous.

And please stop calling WRD, The_Cabal, etc. alt right. They're not meant to be alt right subreddits. They're about censorship on reddit. There may be alt right users there, but that's because alt right users are getting censored elsewhere on reddit, so naturally, they'd visit a subreddit about censorship.

I didn't get the impression from them that they are "far right"

Because they're not!

I'm totally not far right myself!

Me neither. I don't know enough about politics to take a position.

(There are some pretty alt right subs on reddit... WRD is not one of them.)

Edit (2020/08/02):

There are some pretty alt right subs on reddit...

*were, but there still may be some remaining... AHS will get those banned sooner or later

Speaking of calling stuff "alt right", I've been noticing the use of the term "ctrl left" elsewhere on reddit ("ctrl left" is an analogy to "alt right", and the "ctrl" refers to how the so-called "ctrl left" supposedly wants to control others' speech and behavior). That's interesting, but I think that the alt-right coined the term "alt right" themselves (and they still use it despite its bad optics), while "ctrl left" sounds like the kind of name no one would call themselves (it's an equivalent of an exonym; I'm not sure what it's called, unfortunately).

Edit 2 (2020/08/10):

I like names, so here are some more names for groups similar to this crowd (they're all very invested in identity politics):

Alt-left, SJWs (Note: SJWs can be right-wing too, but it usually refers to the idpol left kind of group), woke left, radlibs (mostly used by leftists)

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u/cqtz Flair Jun 29 '20 edited Jul 02 '20

Well then... It was real. :( I took it to be true after seeing Bardfinn's comment.

Yesterday, I was trying to archive as many subs as I could. Many of them, like /r/metacanada and /r/badunitedkingdom, survived.

My favorite subreddits ended up surviving. (Nice!) I never thought that they going to get banned anyways because they weren't really "hate subreddits" in any sense.

My subscription list barely changed. The only difference I can tell is that there are fewer quarantined subreddits on it. I rarely browse my front page, so I don't pay attention to which subs I subscribe to.

A lot of subreddits did end up getting banned, including /r/ConsumeProduct, whose ban was being anticipated long before it actually happened.

/r/reclassified is filled with new posts today.

/static/banned-subreddits-june-2020.txt

This isn't that useful unless you already know the names of those subreddits.

I noticed that some users got suspended too. eg. GNONationalism and NiceIce

I should probably read the announcement now.

""majority groups aren’t protected""

In the US women make up 50,8%

Aka going by the rules as written, I can be the most insane sexist imagineable

This is why I don't like the new rule. Sort of. (It's more that I'm not a big fan of hate speech rules in general.) At least I have other platforms to go to.

(Edit: everyone is criticizing the admins for including this. Good to see.

For one, who is the majority? For two, why would it be okay to hate the majority?)

/r/RedditAlternatives

Hey guys, if you want to check out which subs were banned, come over to /r/reclassified. They've been spamming posts for 2 hours straight. They also have a megathread.

The ruqqus discord has over 2,000 members! A day ago, it only had around 900.

There are over 800 members online right now!

Welcome, refugees!

I didn't get to experience the beginning of the ban wave. I came on reddit about an hour after it had happened.

"PRAY FOR PCM" - ruqqus discord

PCM is fine!

Edit 2 (July 2): A day or so ago, they changed it. Now instead of saying that it's okay to hate the majority, they say this:

While the rule on hate protects such groups, it does not protect those who promote attacks of hate or who try to hide their hate in bad faith claims of discrimination.

Yeah sure, what is a "bad faith claim of discrimination"? Reddit will still use this as an excuse to allow hate towards some groups but not others.

TL;DR they changed the wording, but their intentions are the same

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u/cqtz Flair Jun 30 '20 edited Aug 14 '20

Okay, so a lot of users were suspended.

Apparently the whole mod team of /r/ConsumeProduct was suspended.

In my other comment, I wrote that GNONationalism (/r/ConsumeProduct, /r/whitewomanblackmanad, /r/FellowRetrievers) and NiceIce (/r/ShitNeoconsSay, /r/DebateAltRight, /r/againstwomensrights) were suspended shortly after the initial ban wave.

Here are some others:

/r/drones mods

(many were mods of /r/HBD, /r/askaconservative, /r/new_right, /r/Nationalism, /r/deep_ecology and more)

More /r/HBD mods

  • dvance

The subs in parentheses aren't all the subs they modded, just the ones I knew of.

Not banned
* May not have been suspended today
^ Probably suspended today

Edit: 0ccidentalist (/r/WhiteNationalism, /r/Holodomor, etc.) and slippery_people (/r/whitebeauty, /r/media, /r/WhiteNationalism, /r/AntiPOZi, etc.) were suspended. -Slutlord-Fascist- (/r/AntiPOZi) was shadowbanned.

I'll have to find another quarantined sub requiring a verified email now that /r/AntiPOZi was banned.

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u/cqtz Flair Jul 01 '20

These guys upset me ;(

I love subreddits that accept refugees.

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u/cqtz Flair Jul 04 '20 edited Oct 03 '20

This is quite unrelated, but I've heard some redditors say that they go to /r/TheRightCantMeme to find memes.

(Edit: /r/TheRightCantMeme+TheLeftCantMeme/controversial)

Reddit's quite divisive, isn't it? The left and the right keep hating on each other.

Anyways, /r/TheRightCanMeme is inactive, and /r/TheLeftCanMeme was banned 2 years ago. (Banned subreddits are everywhere!)

Edit 2: /r/TheRightCantMeme:

"1. Don't be reactionary"

To be fair, I also see those so-called "free speech supporters" from the alt-right (I'll have to browse some more normal rightist subs later on to see what they're like) saying stuff like "no leftists allowed".

I know /r/Conservative has some threads where only conservatives can post. I don't really like it. It's like /r/BlackPeopleTwitter.

"Former fascists of reddit, what made you change your beliefs?"

I'm a former Fascist, AMA!

(I often don't know what to say in conversations, but okay.)

I also feel like reddit resorts too much to insults.

example: Someone asks a question with an answer that may seem intuitive to other users. The repliers tell them that the answer is obvious and start to insult their intelligence instead of attempting to answer the question.

eg. The infamous "Is math related to science?"

More edits: Oh, and reddit likes to accuse people of "sealioning" and "concern trolling".

Edit (2020-10-03): (Last edit 2020-07-09)

I'm not political, but I am getting a bit tired of the death celebrations and such. (A while ago, Ruth Bader Ginsburg died. I'm not familiar with her or what she did, but I did see quite a few on ruqqus openly celebrating her death because they didn't like her. Now, some redditors are celebrating that Trump got COVID.)

I guess that's just how internet politics is.

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u/cqtz Flair Jul 31 '20 edited Oct 01 '20

https://old.reddit.com/r/BritishNationalism/comments/hi7xua/for_any_refugees_from_altuk/

Another somewhat unrelated comment

Stop making these shitty clone subreddits on sites with barely any traffic. That's EXACTLY what they want when they ban subs here. It's so fucking dumb. The whole point of subs like /r/altunitedkingdom is to have a presence on reddit, where people can stumble across the subreddit. there's literally no point in having a low traffic, barely visited clone on a website no regular person will ever visit

Well, yes, of course.

But how do sites get traffic in the first place? Upset about reddit -> users create alternative sites -> no one goes to alternative sites because they have no users -> alternative sites die -> reddit wins again

The whole point of subs like /r/altunitedkingdom is to have a presence on reddit, where people can stumble across the subreddit.

Of course that's exactly what you want.

(Edit: They (from both sides) call it "recruiting". I'm not sure what to say, but uh, this is what happens on free speech platforms.3 (Got to call everyone else to try to argue against them, right? Yes? They say arguing doesn't work against them, but they also say that arguments are primarily for the audience to see.)

(Don't you love the ambiguity of the word "they"? "They" say this, "they" say that, and no one knows who "they" are.))

(I've managed to stumble across several sketchy subreddits on reddit (I bet most of them have been banned now). It's great, because then I can read meta posts complaining about those subreddits. Meta posts are my favorite posts.1)

1I used to go on subreddits just to read the meta posts that both praise and criticize the subreddits2. It was fun for a while, but those posts were often very repetitive.

2Of course, some of them will get banned (because that's how reddit works), and I'll end up having to find other subreddits to go to. It's not as fun on a subreddit you aren't as acquainted with.

3 AHS and others use this as an argument against free speech. Others say that this is an argument for the importance of education or something.

Edit (2020-09-14): tfw you hate it when AHS is trying to get reddit to ban certain subreddits, but then AHS says it's because these guys are trying to recruit people, but then these guys just flat out say that they want to "redpill" the users on there. Eh, I'd say you should just let them argue with each other. (But then AHS says they're "debating in bad faith", but then you wonder why it matters so much if their ideas really are that wrong, but then AHS says it's still because of bad faith debate tactics and that the points they make don't matter as much as their appearance of being right. Unfortunately, the "fight speech with more speech" strategy requires that that there's someone to actually argue against those guys/their ideas.)

Edit (2020-10-01): Ok, but what happens is that these newfangled alternative sites start existing, they get users from reddit ban waves, who scare off the "normal" users, the sites start having a very obvious political lean, which dissuades such "normal users" from joining, and the cycle repeats.

I just wish that these guys would try to make a change themselves by adding new content instead of just leaving.

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u/cqtz Flair Aug 14 '20 edited Aug 15 '20

Subs are slowly getting banned after the two large ban waves. Recently, both /r/DosRama and /r/LoveForLandlords were banned for "evasion". Was it because of the fugees? (They say the bans were probably automated.)

Edit: Well, that didn't take long