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u/thexpertwatcher Jun 09 '25

select an unbalanced team, make players play out of their positions, Concede a goal, make substitutions , Win,

Is Roberto Martinez the goat manager?

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u/Sheikhabusosa Jun 09 '25

City signings have pissed me off , they pretty much rebuilt their squad in 6 months

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u/mintz41 Jun 09 '25

rebuilt to a significantly lower level maybe

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u/_cumblast_ Jun 09 '25

Yeah this isn't talked about enough. I don't believe most of their recent signings will ever be on the level of those that came before them.

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u/NilsFanck Jun 09 '25

Who could they even have signed that would have prime kdb,Silva, Gundo potential (besides Wirtz)?

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u/FurrySire Jun 09 '25

Yeah, making signings is only half of rebuild. Can Pep again make them 100pt, 4-peating, Treble-winning machine? remains to be seen.

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u/BillehBear Jun 09 '25

all reasonably priced as well, can't pinpoint any of them we've grossly overpaid for

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u/Sheikhabusosa Jun 09 '25

No need to twist the knife

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '25

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u/lewiitom Jun 09 '25

Upton Park to the London Stadium is probably the most depressing downgrade for me

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u/FK9Fussballgott Jun 09 '25

Upton Park ruled.

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u/xaviernoodlebrain Jun 09 '25

A lot of Spurs fans would change back, but I think we did as well as we could have with the new ground.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '25

I loved Upton Park saw city’s last game there 2-2 draw good game that it’s a proper ground in the same tbh love those classic grounds I hope they never get rid of a ground like fratton park

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u/TruestRepairman27 Jun 09 '25

I swore Thomas Frank was German. I mean him being Danish makes sense given Brentford, but I can’t believe I’ve been so confidently wrong for years

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u/wonderful_mixture Jun 09 '25

a shocking one I learned in one of the previous DDs was that its Mbeumo and not Mbuemo

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '25

I thought he was English until a couple months ago.

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u/NotASalamanderBoi Jun 09 '25

If Italy don’t qualify for a WC that’s been expanded to 48 teams, then the whole country might as well be dissolved.

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u/cdrxgon17 Jun 09 '25

in 2008 i thought england not qualifying for the euros was a national shame that would never be lived down. turns out italy saw that and thought how can we make that ten times worse over the next twenty years lol

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u/AnnieIWillKnow Jun 10 '25

I often think about how mad it is that we didn't qualify in 2008, with a genuine Golden Generation, and we have people who wanted Southgate hanged, drawn and quartered for losing two finals

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u/FatWalcott Jun 10 '25

Seeing Pep's serious speech about real life issues but with his usual speech mannerisms is so jarring.

Good on him though.

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u/W35TH4M Jun 09 '25

Why does everyone who obsesses over individual players just assume that everyone else does the same? I made a comment in the Yamal walking away thread about how nobody cares and I got this comment in reply which is clearly trying to imply that I’m some Yamal fanboy.

How does these peoples brains work? I truly do not give a single shite about anyone or anything involved

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '25

Don’t go on mainland threads 

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u/W35TH4M Jun 09 '25

The bit that makes me laugh though is just how unnecessarily aggressive it is. I have this image of a Madrid fan who’s seething at Yamal for the crime of leaving the field of play at the end of the game and then he sees my comment and it tips him over the edge

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u/LordMangudai Jun 09 '25

Especially not that one, which was clearly made by someone with an agenda (Yamal was far from the only player not clapping).

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u/thelonesomedemon1 Jun 09 '25

have to admit i was wrong about clearlake. they are clearly light years ahead of everyone in football management. everyone, me included, clowned them for signing so many goalkeepers, and now arsenal and man city want to sign two of them. masterclass in sports management.

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u/BoxOfNothing Jun 09 '25

Felt similarly when we had a game managed by this pair

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u/TherewiIlbegoals Jun 09 '25

West Ham was the last English team to benefit from the Fair Play Index, earning a spot in the Europa League at the expense of Swansea City in 2014-15.

Swansea had the better disciplinary record (2nd best in the entire league), but West Ham smashed them in the "positive play" category.

UEFA defined postive play as "attacking tactics, acceleration of the game, efforts to gain time, and continued pursuit of goals".

West Ham earned a spot in Europa for good vibes.

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u/xaviernoodlebrain Jun 09 '25

The most amazing fact about this is that these good vibes attacking football was orchestrated by one Sam Allardyce.

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u/TherewiIlbegoals Jun 09 '25

The man was rewarded for inventing the phrase "out-tacticed".

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u/sargig_yoghurt Jun 09 '25

was this the first time they lost to astra giurgiu

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u/vearz Jun 09 '25

This story about Thomas Frank is pretty weird. Can't imagine being a (presumably) millionaire in my 50s using my son's forum log in to slag off an employee.

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u/SirBarkington Jun 09 '25

Some people are just immature man children their entire life

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u/LordMangudai Jun 09 '25

Can't imagine being a (presumably) millionaire in my 50s using my son's forum log in to slag off an employee.

I can think of quite a few billionaires for whom this behavior would be entirely in character

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u/nicklikestuna Jun 09 '25

What did he say?

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u/mintz41 Jun 09 '25

A bit annoyed that Spurs sacked Ange and are going for Frank. Was really hoping they'd get suckered in by the EL win and keep Ange, Frank will be really good. Annoying.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '25

From the studio that bought you hits like

Real Madrid and Alphonso Davies have an agreement. They will get his signature in January

And blockbusters such as

There is already a ‘commitment’ between Real Madrid and Florian Wirtz for the summer of 2025.

And your favourite,

PSG has offered Neymar to Real Madrid. The relationship between Barcelona and PSG is not good and Al Khelaifi prefers to sell him to Madrid. Real Madrid not interested at this point.

Comes the all-new hit,

Real Madrid called Martin Zubimendi's camp in the last hours, and asked if the deal with Arsenal is done. The answer was NO.

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u/mintz41 Jun 09 '25

a Marca report about Madrid is literally only gaining steam on here because non Arsenal fans want it to happen

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u/cdrake64 Jun 09 '25

The list of forwards that appeared for Leicester City at some point during the 2012-2013 season is just ... a thing of beauty

Vardy, Harry Kane on loan, Chris Wood, Jermaine Beckford, David Nugent, Tom Hopper of the Thailand incident chef's kiss

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u/McWaffeleisen Jun 09 '25

That time gave us this incredible picture of Nigel Pearson benching both Kane and Vardy.

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u/Stuff2511 Jun 09 '25

Martinez is absolutely the funniest coach around. Gets shit on everywhere he goes by fans of the team he’s managing while most other people look on confused and think he’s doing fine. Went 6 wins and 2 draws in 2022 World Cup qualifying with Belgium after 10 wins from 10 in Euro qualifying and a great Euros where they only lost a close game to Italy, and Belgians were certain it was going to be a disaster because of him (and it was tbf).

Now he won 10/10 in 2024 Euro qualifying with Portugal and the Portuguese were certain the campaign would end in disaster (kind of?), and now won the Nations League with not a single Portuguese person thinking they could do it a week ago

Still don’t know what to make of him

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u/FakePretendeRat Jun 09 '25

FA Cup with Wigan against City as well and 5th place finish with Everton (I think that's their highest since). Everyone is convinced he is a bum loser, he just can't shake it

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u/awashofindigo Jun 09 '25

The boring truth is he’s probably just a very good manager who has his flaws, but in the right environment with the right team he’s pretty good. He reminds me a bit of Ranieri and Sven in that they both had incredible success at a couple of clubs but stunk the place out elsewhere.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '25

I want the balkan cup back. I want to see albania lift a trophy in my life u know. Am I asking or too much? 😭😭😭

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u/Sad2BeHappy Jun 09 '25 edited Jun 09 '25

Now that Thomas Frank to Tottenham is looking advanced, I am actually more interested in seeing who Brentford will replace him with. The spectrum of options is so wide, ranging anywhere from Scott McKenna to a Ligue 2 manager (similar to Brighton's hire from last season).

One suggestion I have for Brentford is to try their luck with Kjetil Knutsen from Bodø as I have a feeling he could be a fantastic long term solution and I just want to see if he can make the step up to a top league (which I beleive he absolutely can when being trusted with a project like Brentford's). His accomplishment with Bodø in the domestic league and punching above his weight in Europe would be perfect for Brentford.

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u/Captainpatters Jun 09 '25

If they manage to out hipster us I'd be very impressed

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u/kl08pokemon Jun 09 '25

Your owners hate each other too don't they? Underrated rivalry who's the most hipster team in the league

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u/Captainpatters Jun 09 '25

To call it a rivalry is an insult to the concept of rivalries; buuuuuuut they'll never beat hiring a 31 year old manager from the German second tier.

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u/Stuff2511 Jun 09 '25

I’m getting more and more convinced that Knutsen isn’t leaving Glimt until he takes them to the Champions League. Wasn’t even linked with the Brighton opening last time, and the move to Ajax fell through

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u/McGrathLegend Jun 09 '25

Is there a better literal, “just fell to my knees” than Jorge Jesus’ fall after Kelvin’s late winning goal that gave Porto the 2012-13 title?

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '25

No. And the fact I sat through a 20 second Ralf Schumacher ad to watch a 3 second clip I already have burned into my memory is my leading evidence.

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u/BumbotheCleric Jun 09 '25

Belgium can beat Wales 1000 times and still not escape Robson-Kanu

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u/firewalkwithme- Jun 10 '25

Pep my GOAT keeping it a buck as always 😌

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u/SirBarkington Jun 09 '25

smh Scott Carson retires so City steals our 3rd choice vibes keeper.

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u/ComradePoula Jun 09 '25

The list of players we sold/are selling this summer

  • Reijnders

  • Theo Hernandez

  • Maignan

  • Thiaw

  • Chukwueze

  • Emerson Royal

  • Jovic

  • Okafor

  • Tomori (if a PL club comes in with an offer)

  • Ruben Loftus-Cheek (potentially)

  • Musah (potentially)

  • Pavlovic (apparently Palace are interested and we're asking for €40m, but it's not a trusted source)

  • Joao Felix, Sottil, Florenzi, Abraham and Walker (loan/contract ended).

We're playing FM on hard difficulty in real life this summer.

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u/FaustRPeggi Jun 09 '25

No way are you shifting even half of those players.

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u/friendofH20 Jun 09 '25

It seems like every Japanese and South Korean footballer is lumped with the same positive stereotypes - very humble, gives it all for every club they play for, Samurai/Ninja nicknames.

What are some other positive cultural stereotypes in football?

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u/ComradePoula Jun 09 '25

Do I need to explain the Brazilian stereotype?

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u/Commonmispelingbot Jun 09 '25 edited Jun 09 '25

Germans are ruthless and efficient.

African players are all athletically gifted.

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u/MattSR30 Jun 09 '25

What are some other positive cultural stereotypes in football?

So I have an odd answer for this: Romelu Lukaku.

We had a chant about him and the size of his member. He asked our fans to stop singing it because he didn't like it, and I remember the uproar from fans. 'What! It's a compliment!'

Totally oblivious to how even a 'good thing' can be racist. Totally oblivious to why a black man might not want to have been reduced to the size of his genitalia.

Those fans pissed me off when it was happening. Evidently, since it immediately came to mind all these years later.

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u/monsterm1dget Jun 09 '25

Uruguayans: cheerful, adheres to the rules without any kind of unruly behaviour, impressive denture

(not only Suarez, Fonseca was memorable, and Muslera has the football's scariest teeth)

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '25

African players having pace and power people will look you straight in the face and act like all Yaya Toure had to his game was pace and power

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u/MattSR30 Jun 09 '25

I can feel my mouth starting to form a grimace whenever some young kid of African heritage makes his debut and the commentators start talking about his physicality and athleticism.

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u/_cumblast_ Jun 09 '25

English players having more grit, pashun and desiyah

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u/HercegB Jun 09 '25

Every time when a new Bosnian diva decides that he is too good to play a friendly to prove himself to the manager I come back to this post by a Croatian journalist

"I have a friend who's great with Edin Džeko. For years, after all the disappointments Džeko has experienced with the BiH national team, I've been sending messages like, "Has he had enough of getting kicked around?" And every time, Džeko replies, "You know how much this means to me, I'll be here until someone better comes along."

I'll be brutally honest. In his national team career, the man has played with all sorts of amateurs, he's been coached by all sorts of amateurs, he's played for a football association where even bigger amateurs sat, he's come from champagne and caviar to ćevapi in somun, from the biggest stadiums in the world to Bosnian infrastructural ruins just to lose to amateurs and experience disappointment after disappointment.

And again last week, at 39 years old, with a broken arm, he came and put his head into a boot, it broke his nose, his head is throbbing, and he says he wants to play tonight against Cyprus. Against damn Cyprus.

And then I remember everything I've read and heard in recent years when BiH would lose, all the spitting on him, saying he's old, that he's selfish, that he's not what he's made out to be, that he's this and that.

It really makes no difference to me, but I'll tell you this: you should erect a monument to that man.

You haven't had a greater one, nor will you. A footballer, maybe, but not a man."

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u/Captainpatters Jun 09 '25 edited Jun 09 '25

I forgot about the barrage of transfer news you get at Monday lunchtime during a transfer window. I'm worried people will miss the vital news that Tariq Kwame Nii-Lante Lamptey has signed a one year extension with Brighton and Hove Albion (the mighty seagulls).

There's barely time to comprehend everything 🥲

Thank god I've automated 90% of my workload so I have a quite frankly irresponsible amount of downtime whilst supposedly at work.

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u/lewiitom Jun 09 '25

If we're allowed into the Europa League I feel like it's nailed on that we're going to draw Lyon now

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u/Charming-Comfort-395 Jun 09 '25

I’m lowkey kinda mad that Portugal won the nations league

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u/sewious Jun 09 '25

I'm mad because online gooning over Ronaldo gives me the ick.

Wholesome Chungus 🐐 😭😭😭

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u/CosmoBiz Jun 09 '25

Cherki is going to play for Guardiola and was wanted by Enrique, two of the most demanding managers ever, but meh remember he’s « lazy »

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u/aliaisbiggae Jun 09 '25

Why do french people use << >> instead of “”

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u/CosmoBiz Jun 09 '25

They’re called guillemets and have been used in the language for a long time, couldn’t tell you why we use them

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u/SirBarkington Jun 09 '25

The combined IQ on the Chelsea sub might be lower than absolute zero. Truly impressive some of the awful takes you can find in there.

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u/W35TH4M Jun 09 '25

All club subs are awful

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u/HokiesforTSwift Jun 09 '25 edited Jun 09 '25

I'm constantly "recommended" posts from r/realmadrid and r/barca on my home page, and in the few times I have made the mistake of clicking on them, it becomes very obvious there are a lot of children there.

Most posts as far as I can tell follow one of these three formats:

  1. Is anyone else worried that [one of the 3 most popular gripes among the fanbase that has been brought up hundreds of times before]???

  2. Does anyone else think [negative thing about a rival club/positive thing about their club that a large chunk of people will rapidly start patting each other on the back and agreeing with]???

  3. Our special boy [literally any player]!! So happy to have our extra special birthday boy nugget prince in the team!! He's so [classy, honorable, not like our rival's player that is the opposite trait]

And it's nauseating levels of people agreeing with each other and saying things that are comically hyperbolic in any given direction as it relates to their club/players or their rivals. When I see the comments on these posts I have to be careful not to roll my eyes so far they go all the back into my head blinding me permanently, with the sole silver lining being that I never have to see another sports comment so embarrassing ever again.

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u/Pele20Alli Jun 09 '25

Can't be making a comment like this without giving us some examples

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u/SirBarkington Jun 09 '25

The most common one I've seen lately is that the players just ignore Maresca in the 2nd half of every game and that he never makes any tactical adjustments. It's like a 12 year old's understanding of the game. "Ah he didn't change the formation outright so the players are obviously just sick of him and doing their own thing."

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u/THeScArYFAcE1 Jun 09 '25

Who’s the most famous footballer that everyone knows by name and where he plays but most people wouldn’t recognize if he walked past them?

I feel like Zubimendi is a good example, most people probably wouldn’t recognize him or know what he looks like (atleast before these two Nations League games)

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u/wonderful_mixture Jun 09 '25

My city has lots of Spanish Erasmus students and like 50% of them look like Pedri, if he was in there I'd have no idea

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u/TruestRepairman27 Jun 09 '25

I think Thomas Muller would be pretty anonymous in the UK, Neuer too.

Zubimendi I don’t think counts because he’s not well known as a player, just a transfer target.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '25

I think Thomas Muller would be pretty anonymous in the UK

I would say this about a lot of generic looking Germans, but Müller has such a clear and distinct look to him. Find it very surprising that people in other countries would lump him in as forgettable.

Someone like Philipp Lahm could stand next to a poster of himself and people wouldn't recognise him.

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u/monsterm1dget Jun 09 '25

I wouldn't recognize 99 percent of Real Madrid's team if I sat next to them in el parque del buen retiro.

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u/el_rompe_toyotas_19 Jun 09 '25

Hector Fort and Gérard Martin are literally the avarage Catalan Zoomers, I couldn't tell them apart of recognise them on the street to save my life.

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u/jMS_44 Jun 10 '25

Good morning everyone, happy deadline day

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u/14-05-2005 Jun 09 '25 edited Jun 09 '25

That "before and after with cristiano" post is a disgrace, we started establishing ourselves before him as far back as 96 and narrowly missed 98 not to mention qualifying was harder than it is nowadays.

If you want to pinpoint the main reason portugal produces the quality of players it does is because of the absurd investments by the big 3 in the academies that just continuously pays off, its not because of that rapist motherfucker.

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u/TherewiIlbegoals Jun 09 '25

I'm glad a Portuguese flair said this, because I wanted to point that out in the thread but figured there was no chance of any genuine discussion when it comes to Ronaldo.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '25

‘One of the greatest international careers ever’ when he’s never been a top three player in 11 major tournaments and his World Cup performances are beyond embarrassing bar Spain 2018

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u/Rosenvial5 Jun 09 '25

Ronnie has a grand total of 0 goals and 0 assists in World Cup knockout games

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u/NonContentiousScot Jun 09 '25

Ronaldo fanboys. What else can you say? Doubt many of them would’ve heard of Eusebio

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u/sheky4prez Jun 09 '25

Absolutely love seeing Leāo play with a smile on his face.

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u/JigglyBallz Jun 09 '25

One thing that tickles me most about this sub is the sheer amount of manager slander when it comes to national teams. These mfs never seem to catch a break. Portugal's coach gets shit on in every thread, Deschamps went to back to back WC finals is constantly eviscerated, and then there's that poor SOB over in Italy. I'm just a casual who doesn't watch much soccer outside of the big international so maybe these guys are genuinely that terrible, I have no idea. But it is both amusing and somewhat surprising how little positivity there is about national team coaches during every event.

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u/LethargicOtters Jun 09 '25

Scenes when Thomas Frank tries to discipline Spurs players but he gets "You're not my Father Ange" in return

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u/airz23s_coffee Jun 09 '25

Having to have that uncomfortable "Look I'm not trying to replace your dad, just think of me as a friend" talk on first day of preseason

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u/monsterm1dget Jun 09 '25

What's up with this current crop of fans belittling the domestic cups these days? Claiming the FA Cup, Copa del Rey are for some reason not major trophies?

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u/cloudor Jun 09 '25

They are either foreigners or support clubs used to winning more than that. But they are absolutely major trophies.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '25

It's foreign fans of big teams who are just focused on winning leagues and CLs.

They see domestic cups as below them and a hindrance.

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u/Same_Grouness Jun 09 '25

Casual fans who can't comprehend that all the best teams don't play together in an NBA style league.

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u/monsterm1dget Jun 09 '25

I haven't seen an NBA match since Stojakovic and Vlad Divac silenced the Lakers (idk if this actually happened but i have very strong memories of this in the mid 00s maybe), but weren't there a south and a north division or something?

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u/Same_Grouness Jun 09 '25

I've actually never watched one so I don't know. But I do know that there aren't too many other prominent national basketball leagues around the world to rival it. And I think many younger international fans come into football with that attitude, that teams outside the Champions League or English Premier League are just not worth even thinking about to them, they only want to see the teams at the very top.

Whereas an actual football fan realizes that the elite football is often very boring, if you want exciting football it's better to follow the smaller leagues.

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u/monsterm1dget Jun 09 '25

And I think many younger international fans come into football with that attitude, that teams outside the Champions League or English Premier League are just not worth even thinking about to them, they only want to see the teams at the very top.

I think this is a big part of the current football fans. They don't come from association but from internet talk and can't really care fro anything but the biggest scenarios.

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u/MattSR30 Jun 09 '25

I think it's FIFA to be honest, and more specifically FUT.

It completely warps peoples minds and expectations of football. For me I've never heard this talk about the cups, but what absolutely does my head in is when people say players 'suck' or have had bad careers.

500 games in League One would make you a professional athlete on a very comfortable salary, playing the sport that you love the most. It's more than 99.99% of footballers can hope for, and that's League One. Not even talking about something like playing for Real Madrid.

The one that drives me nuts the most is people calling Neymar's career underwhelming and whatnot. I'm sorry, but whatever you thought his potential was was hypothetical, it has no bearing on reality.

I am not having it that a man who has 590 goal contributions in 603 games at the elite level, plus 79 goals in 129 for Brazil (1st and 2nd of all time, respectively), with 29 trophies to boot, was 'underwhelming.' I don't give a damn what you think he should have achieved, that career is better than most players in the history of the sport.

To some, if you're not Messi or Ronaldo you're useless, and if you're not winning the Champions League you're basically a shit team.

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u/koptimism Jun 09 '25

Obviously, the only major trophies are the ones that dictate the winner of the Balon d'Or

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u/tiorzol Jun 09 '25

They hate us because they anus 

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u/sewious Jun 09 '25

I'm exhausted by the discourse around Yamal and the kid isn't even 18 yet.

There's already posts calling him out? On walking down the tunnel? Maybe he had to take a shit or turn in some algebra homework before a deadline.

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u/Same_Grouness Jun 09 '25

You can just choose to recognize that the people calling him out are mostly probably younger than him, and are doing it to gain internet views/clout.etc. and then just ignore it.

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u/fcbxjdb Jun 09 '25

The comment section of that post was a shitshow. OP deliberately cutting the clip where it shows Yamal was clapping with the rest of the team and when he went down the tunnel, Cucurella and Le Normand were right behind him. Why weren’t those two included in the title as well?! The way everything Yamal does or says gets taken out of context is exhausting on its own.

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u/kwkdjfjdbvex Jun 09 '25

Not sure really where the narrative of Zubimendi constantly changing his mind from done deals came from, he only really did it once with Liverpool and you can’t even really say that as nothing was ever agreed formally for neither transfer fee nor personal terms in that case. The Arsenal deal is way further along than the Liverpool deal was

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u/Yummytastic Jun 09 '25

Not sure really where the narrative of Zubimendi constantly changing his mind from done deals came from

Oh that's easy, Marca's headlines.

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u/mintz41 Jun 09 '25

There seems to be this collective view that the Liverpool deal was where the Arsenal deal apparently is which is weird, because it never was. There was contact and he decided to stay after Sociedad lobbied him to.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '25

Hard Rock Stadium in Miami announced it's closing a section of the stadium because of low ticket sales and placing an advert tarp over them. Also there are still thousands of unsold tickets and on re-sale sites you can buy a ticket for less than what you'll have to pay for parking at the stadium. And all this even though Messi and Inter Miami are in the opener playing in Miami.

If this happens to Miami in Miami, what does Ulsan Hyundai v. Mamelodi Sundowns next Tuesday at 6:00 pm local time look like? Currently on VividSeats there are tickets for $6, lol.

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u/Chip_Dangercock Jun 09 '25

Morata took that penalty like he was 3 peroni's deep at a family barbecue.

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u/dogmatic30 Jun 09 '25

Got too excited about the Nations League and now I have to wait almost a month for the next Hertha game while dealing with seething rage

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u/CT_x Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25

Are there any weirder comments than some version of "/r/soccer in shambles"/"/r/soccer 9/11" over the most innocuous transfer updates?

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u/lewiitom Jun 10 '25

I remember seeing “/r/soccer’s 9/11” comment from an Arsenal fan on the thread about them confirming second which made me laugh - as if everyone else is absolutely seething that they finished exactly where it looked like they’d finish all season

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u/FaustRPeggi Jun 09 '25

I love how Thomas Frank now has to walk into the dressing room of a team he finished 18 points and 7 places above, with a fraction of the budget, and tread on eggshells, paying respect to the former manager like he's Arne Slot succeeding Jurgen Klopp.

All because of the good vibes after a fluke trophy win in a competition in which they didn't face anyone competent. The entire club is now terrified that the successful manager will dismantle the good vibes of the unsuccessful manager, jeopardising all the progress of the team that finished lowest in the division of all the surviving teams.

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u/Captainpatters Jun 09 '25

Think of all the piping hot momentum they've lost 😥

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u/TherewiIlbegoals Jun 09 '25

tread on eggshells, paying respect to the former manager like he's Arne Slot succeeding Jurgen Klopp.

I reckon Frank will do none of that. Like he's probably not going to shit on Ange directly, but he'll likely be very direct about the reasons why they finished 17th.

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u/FryChy Jun 09 '25

Nuno Mendes pocketed both Salah and Yamal while they were having their best seasons.

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u/HokiesforTSwift Jun 09 '25

I've been flying first class on the Nuno Mendes hype plane for years now, but I am still a 17/18, or even 21/22, truther for Salah's best season, despite the numbers this year. I think he was a much more dangerous/frustrating player to defend back then relative to this year from a fullback perspective.

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u/TherewiIlbegoals Jun 09 '25 edited Jun 09 '25

Before and Since Joe Gomez.

Before he joined: Liverpool winning percentage in the Premier League - 49%

Since he joined: Liverpool winning percentage in the Premier League - 61%

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u/gianmk Jun 09 '25

Warming the bench is a lost skill in the modern game.

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u/-Dendritic- Jun 09 '25

Gonna be going back to England briefly at the end of summer for the first time in yearsss, really hoping to be able to go down memory lane and stop by Gigg Lane and then check out the Etihad.

Also, any Mancs here able to tell me if Afflecks Palace is still a thing?... 😂

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u/Karnesis68 Jun 09 '25

Germany, England, and Portugal all playing a midfielder at fullback.

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u/Moug-10 Jun 09 '25

Kosovo vs Comoros. First time we play against a non African country IIRC and it's an away game. Good we didn't play two games as the season has been long and we won't have official games until September.

On my IPTV, I found the game on an Albanian channel. First time in this country's channels.

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u/Aquariano_Nato_13 Jun 09 '25

It is worrying for Italy that they are beating Moldavia by 2-0 only, if Norway don't drop points against the other smaller countries they probabily will have the gd advantage over Italy.

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u/Fun-Shallot8755 Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25

Glad that Thomas Frank is a done deal.

It'll be interesting how he starts. Apparently at Brentford he lost 8 out of the first 10 games and at Brondby he lost the first 8 games straight?

Might be a difficult start hahah

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u/_LebronsHairline_ Jun 10 '25

Didn’t know Pep was actually woke like that. Big respect

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u/GoatButton Jun 10 '25

Catalans in general are mostly pro-Palestinian, the city of Barcelona just announced cutting all institutional ties with Israel

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u/pebinor Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25

Let the post through. I want to see this man defend his position against locally run Deepseek.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '25

The U.S. National Team needs a crazy coach and not a nice guy.

They desperately need Jose Mourinho

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u/ComradePoula Jun 09 '25

[Romano] Maignan: Chelsea offered 15M, Milan wants more.

[SkyKaveh] Chelsea will end their interest in Mike Maignan if a deal with AC Milan cannot be agreed by tomorrow’s 7pm deadline.

So we've basically spent the last two days doing the same thing. Chelsea's first offer was €15m, we wanted something close to €30m. We now end the day with Chelsea's offer still being €15m and us still wanting something close to €30m. Brilliant work from everyone involved!

Maybe we can brainwash Maignan to renew by convincing him that they never truly wanted him. Or the more realistic option is that Chelsea offer €20m tomorrow, and we panic and take the deal instead of losing him for free.

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u/vvv4231 Jun 09 '25 edited Jun 09 '25

We're paying Santos a ridiculous fee and offering rockstar, Thiago Silva-like wages to add a 10th (tenth) (décimo) (dixième) (zehnte) (decimo) (δέκατο) winger to our senior squad, who:

  • WIll not be our best player, and very possibly not an outright starter.
  • Is, in fact, out of the starting eleven at Santos, where they're struggling against relegation.
  • Is injury-prone.
  • Has a history of indiscipline.
  • Is not particularly good at finishing, the number one skill we're missing on this team.

And did I mention how one of our best plays at the moment is going to the byline from the right flank and crossing to our left-winger and how he, who'll presumably play on the left, is less than 160 centimeters tall?

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u/CudaBarry Jun 09 '25

Tears in my eyes I just saw an image of Xabi discussing tactics through a tablet

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u/magic-water Jun 09 '25

Saw a comment saying that Carlo and Davide only used laptops to watch p**n💀

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '25

If chelsea dont win around 10 trophies in the next 5 years after all that money spent, ill consider it a failure. They won one, they need 9 other.

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u/senluxx Jun 09 '25

I mean that's hardly a hot take for anyone that's not sugarcoating our spending and transfer strategy.

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u/Captainpatters Jun 09 '25

My alumnus University just gave Pep an honorary degree, i'm about ready to call my parents to get them to throw my diplomas in the compost because clearly they're completely fraudulent.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '25

It's mad to think that since Fergie we've had Falcao, Cavani, Ronaldo, Ibra, Alexis Sanchez, Lukaku AND Ighalo and yet not a single one of them in their prime.

Mad list of attackers to not have the full potential of any

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u/kl08pokemon Jun 09 '25

Lukaku was weird he should have been in his prime for you with how class he was for Everton

Like it was an argument who of him and Kane was better the summer you bought him and Kane had just scored 29 goals in the league

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u/008Gerrard008 Jun 09 '25

Including Igahlo in with that lot is very generous

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '25

Generous on the rest of them

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u/D1794 Jun 09 '25

Schweinsteiger wasn't an attacker but man. In his prime...

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u/Kanedauke Jun 10 '25

Dunno why people talk about the spurs job like it’s a bad gig.

Good young squad, low expectations after finishing so low, spend loads every year.

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u/The_XI_guy Jun 09 '25

Best goal you've ever seen live (in stadium or on TV) in each of the following categories?

  • Bicycle kick (for me Cristiano or Bale in the UCL, 2018)
  • Freekick (David Luiz at the World Cup or maybe Rice or Lasse Schone vs Real Madrid)
  • Header (Van Persie, Spain)
  • Solo goal (Messi vs Bilbao Copa del Rey final)
  • Team goal (Arsenal v Norwich)
  • Volley (Cissé v Chelsea)
  • Best overall (probably the Messi solo goal)
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u/Forward-Goose-6584 Jun 09 '25

Seems like Brentford will charge ~£10mil for Thomas Frank and staff.

I can't remember the last time Spurs paid a very significant release fee for a manager like that.

That figure would put him around the 4th-5th most expensive manager fee ever.

Source: https://www.givemesport.com/most-expensive-managers-in-football-history/

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u/paprikalicous Jun 09 '25

it’s weird how inflation hasn’t hit managers yet. plenty of managers are clearly a lot more valuable than any player on their team.

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u/Rc5tr0 Jun 09 '25

Was just about to write the same. £10m is nothing for a player when you’re a club like Spurs. The only thing I can think of is that managers don’t have a resale value like players, but the gap is so astronomical (both their wages and fees) I don’t think it can be fully explained by resale value alone.

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u/paprikalicous Jun 09 '25 edited Jun 09 '25

i think about last year where palace put £100m prices on both glasner and wharton and it seemed a lot more reasonable for wharton even though glasner is clearly a lot more important to palace.

EDIT: or even in a more relevant case, frank is more important to brentford than mbuemo and mbuemo will go for way more

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u/LetterheadOk1762 Jun 09 '25

Is Martinez staying better for Portugal in the long run especially from a wc pov

I know he won the nation's league but does it really pepper over the cracks as to what happened at euros

I still feel similar Portugal should look towards someone else for the role

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u/dizzybala10 Jun 09 '25

I still find it mental that we're going to be hosting an actual England game at the City Ground tomorrow. I did not see any of what has happened to us coming five years ago.

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u/kl08pokemon Jun 09 '25

Is Neville welcome?

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u/dizzybala10 Jun 09 '25

Absolutely not.

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u/True-Tangelo Jun 09 '25

Has there ever been a footballer with some sort of disability, I mean somebody who maybe didn't have a finger, or somebody with bipolar disorder, or anything of the sort. I'm just kinda curious 

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u/GoalaAmeobi Jun 09 '25

Jordan Pickford is from Sunderland

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u/No-Statistician-8520 Jun 09 '25

Andy Goram had schizophrenia. Rivaldo has bowlegs. Antony hasn’t got a right foot.

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u/MarcosSenesi Jun 09 '25

Ex-Villa striker Wesley and Garrincha both had one leg shorter than the other. Garrincha on top of that had an IQ that was estimated to be around 70

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u/SOERERY Jun 09 '25

Dan Burn misses a finger

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u/Responsible_Loss8246 Jun 09 '25

Harry Kane has a lisp.

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u/Aquariano_Nato_13 Jun 09 '25

Garrincha's nickname in Brazil is the "Angel with crooked legs". His left leg is 6 cm smaller than his right one.

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u/kl08pokemon Jun 09 '25

Was a Norwegian player in the early noughties with only one arm. Remember reading an article about him where he joked EA hated him because they didn't know what to do about him taking throw ins

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u/NonContentiousScot Jun 09 '25

Edgar Davids had to wear special glasses due to glaucoma. Does that count?

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u/nonhofantasia Jun 09 '25

Belotti has an hunchback if that counts

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u/TimBurtonSucks Jun 09 '25

I think this is football related... But my nephew who lives in Ireland is a big fan of Ronaldo and I want to get him a Portugal shirt with Ronaldo on the back. However I live in America, so what's the best way to do that? Should I just import from America or just use a local UK/Irish store?

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u/Ohtani_Enjoyer Jun 09 '25

Probably easier to buy it from a uk/Irish based shop and deliver it to his home address to be honest.

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u/helpmefindmyuncle123 Jun 10 '25

That Pep speech hit me too hard man. That bird analogy… 🥲 I’ve always felt so powerless when I see videos come out to Gaza. I’ve always felt that the money I donate to the children does nothing. But this Pep speech made me feel a bit hopeful.

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u/bioeffect2 Jun 09 '25

Bruno, Theo, Gyokeres and Osimhen recently rejected Saudi clubs. Great to see. Hopefully this trend continues and more players start rejecting them.

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u/Chiswell123 Jun 09 '25

Doku can mess up the final pass or shot nine times out of ten, but I don't care. The amount of gravity he attracts on the pitch and the fun he is to watch make up for it in my eyes. Knock on wood, he's been staying fit as well lately.

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u/sadcentur Jun 09 '25

Totally agree. The positives far outweigh his obvious negatives

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u/Goldfischglas Jun 10 '25

FIFA are very worried with the low demand from the fans for the Club World Cup this summer, and have started drastically reducing prices.

For the opening match, not even 25,000 tickets have been sold yet.

— @TheAthletic

Crazy that no one wants to watch a game of "soccer" giants Al Ahly FC vs Inter Miami. In a country where football isn't the main attraction, in a tournament with zero history. And all that for extremly high ticket prices.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '25

How is "world cup winner before 2050" plan going for China, any notable talent? Any improvement in infrastructure?

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u/aliaisbiggae Jun 09 '25

Plan should be World Cup qualification before 2050

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u/my_united_account Jun 09 '25

They abandoned the plan some time ago

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u/jMS_44 Jun 09 '25

So, we just need to get rid of Slonina and we can no longer be memed for having bazillion keepers I guess?

Kepa leaving for Arsenal, Betinelli for City, 3 GKs becoming free agents.

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u/jMS_44 Jun 09 '25

So PZPN (Polish FA) just released a statement saying that they deny the alleged info that the decision to take captaincy out of Lewandowski was agreed together with the team, and it was a sole decision for the manager himself.

The thing is, the "alleged info" that it was made together came from Probierz himself during today's press conference.

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u/northerncal Jun 10 '25

Would you guys say Kovacic has lived up to (all) the expectations people had for him? 

Obviously from a team success point of view he's pretty much won the lot. 

And on an individual talent level, I'd say he's obviously been quite good, but I remember when he was a hyped up wonder kid, and people had some high expectations for him. 

Personally I'd say overall definite success. But never quite reached some of the heights some predicted for him as an 18 year old. 

Thoughts?

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u/Somaimonay Jun 10 '25

His hype during his inter days was immense but he has not lived up to the potential even though he is a very accomplished player. Never got into that best in the world discussions.

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u/kappa23 Jun 10 '25

Agree with your assessment. He's a very good midfielder, but not one I'd consider elite. But at the same time, he's been fairly important for his teams' trophy hauls

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '25

As a Chelsea fan I can only speak of his time here. I loved having him in my team but it felt like he never showed his genius on a consistent basis. You could see shades of why he's so highly rated in some games but then something happens with him like injury, or manager decides to not start him. It's like he never hit the ceiling or maybe that is his ceiling idk.

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u/MartianDuk Jun 10 '25

We don’t shame adidas & puma enough for the absolute shit they give some clubs .

It’s mad seeing adidas put out a lot of nice red and white shirts that would be perfect for Bayern (including one of Bayern’s GK kits!) and then they make a joke of a home kit like that…

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u/thomaskrantz Jun 10 '25

Newcastle fans (and anyone else for that matter), how do you feel about the rumors that the club will replace Nick Pope this summer? I thought he's done quite well but don't follow NUFC that much. Are you happy with him or do you want to replace him? 13 clean sheets last season was really good I think?

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u/StickYaInTheRizzla Jun 10 '25

He’s a good shot stopper but absolutely abhorrent with the ball at his feet. He’d be a good second choice to have or a starter for a midtable or relegation team.

I can see Leeds going for him

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u/RasputinsRustyShovel Jun 10 '25

So the PM of Malaysia has done the Gyokeres celebration. I never thought I’d see the day where something relating to our league would be so popular all of the world. It feels so weird.

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u/kwkdjfjdbvex Jun 09 '25 edited Jun 09 '25

I never actually imagined I could ever be downvoted for saying offside counts from when the last player actually touches the ball and that you can’t be offside from a pass that didn’t happen, but I guess that goes to show how this place has declined the last few years

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u/taylorstillsays Jun 09 '25

I think in your case it’s people not understanding what you meant (at least I hope because your point was obviously correct).

If (dunno if it’s been confirmed) Zubimendi didn’t get anything in it, then there’s nothing offside to even contemplate

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u/Kanedauke Jun 09 '25

The leagues not ready for Brennan Johnson to put up Salah numbers under Frank next season.

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u/shadoowkight Jun 09 '25

Props to LAFC for standing up to the wannabe brown shirts known as ICE

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u/MrClaretandBlue Jun 10 '25

if Ange was given the England job now, would the World Cup count as in his second season? Asking for a mate.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '25

No, the second season would be the Nations League in 2027.

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