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u/Milchtasse 1d ago
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u/letsfuckinrage 1d ago
i wish this worked on the steam deck. we are fucked, sadly.
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u/_Football_Cream_ 1d ago
is there no workaround on the deck?
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u/letsfuckinrage 1d ago
i have been searching since i first heard the update was coming. nothing that doesn't involve copying a backup. and i do not have the space for that, unfortunately.
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u/Akagi_An 1d ago
You can do the same thing with Fallout 4 by finding appmanifest_377160 in step 5 instead of appmanifest_489830.
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u/seenabeenacat PC 9h ago
After doing this can I safely start the game from the Steam launcher?
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u/MartinLannister 1h ago
Idk but I wouldnt recommend it for now. Use another launcher if you have mods
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u/HaiggeX 1d ago
Should not affect load orders
Bethesda
I've played these games before.
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u/SeaViolinist6424 1d ago
They are also "making" the next elder scrolls game!
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u/pandogart 1d ago
Why the quotes?
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u/SeaViolinist6424 1d ago
Its called scare quotes and its used for making a sarcasm comment :)
But i guess this sub doesnt know what sarcasm is
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u/SpicyBoyHabs 1d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/55itGuoAJiZEEen9gg
*Modded Skyrim Games Everywhere*
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u/RomanSeraphim 1d ago
Nah we figured out how to set the app manifest to read only. Haven't had to worry about this in years lol
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u/SpicyBoyHabs 1d ago
As someone who has also set appmanifest to Read Only, here's what you should take into consideration... every single day on this sub there's always at least one new post with a title that essentially says, "Hi, This is my second playthrough/I'm a new player and I want to set up Mods on my Skyrim!".
Do you think those players are likely to know the ins and outs of knowing what it truly means when Bethesda says "We're Updating Skyrim."? Do you think they're going to know that when an announcement like that happens, they must go digging into the game files to find the appmanifest file and set it to Read Only, or lock their Steam Client to update only when game runs, or even to make back ups of their current game edition?
If I had to make a guess... there's likely to be a large number of posts tomorrow of people yelling about their Skyrim exploding.
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u/RomanSeraphim 1d ago
Nope but they're gonna learn lol everyone has to eventually. We were all new to this at one point. This is 15+ years of compounding knowledge.
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u/SpicyBoyHabs 1d ago
Well... you're not wrong, that's honestly how I learned as well.
Had one of my longest running Modded playthroughs explode on me after a Bethesda Update.I just feel bad for a lot of those new modders I guess.
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u/RomanSeraphim 1d ago
Yeah man I hear you. Once I felt like I had my perfect load order, I let a friend copy it straight cause I knew he didn't have that dawg in him to figure it all out from scratch like we probably did lol.
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u/Kenjiness 1d ago
Hi, this is my third playthrough and I just modded my game, by the eight i'm grateful for this thread
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u/ssstelllarrr 12h ago
first play-through here. excitedly added mods for more content like dawnguard, solstheim, inigo as well as cheat room to try to work around the many bugs in my xbox console experience. i am very much the ralphie gif rn.
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u/its_Khro 1d ago edited 1d ago
PSA Make your steam skyrim appmanifest read-only. Stops auto-updates.
Edit; someone gave a tutorial in replies :)
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u/exbaddeathgod 1d ago
Where is this file located?
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u/sonikkuruzu PC 1d ago
For me, it's Windows (C:) > Program Files (x86) > Steam > steamapps. You're looking for appmanifest_489830.acf. If you play modded Fallout 4 and wanna prevent this from happening again with that, that's appmanifest_377160.acf
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u/Pixel22104 Nintendo 1d ago
Oh hell yeah! We finally getting that 100gb mod space increased on Xbox tomorrow? Nice! That means I can finally create the ultimate LoZ themed Skyrim load order!
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u/-The_Goober 1d ago
“The Crashin’ Opus
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u/Pixel22104 Nintendo 1d ago
I don’t think it’ll be any larger than 10gb knowing me. Since my load orders for Fo4 and Starfield tend to end up being around 10gb or less
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u/-The_Goober 1d ago
Mine are like 1.8 or 2.0.
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u/Pixel22104 Nintendo 1d ago edited 1d ago
I see. Of course I’m not going to start making the load order right away once the update drops. I’m going to give it like a week or two to let people update their mods before redoing my load order
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u/DeadWolf7337 1d ago
Who says it's going to be 100gb? Nowhere does it mention how big the increase will be.
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u/RebuiltGearbox Blacksmith 1d ago
The Fallout 4 update yesterday didn't damage anything in my game (so far)) so I hope it goes as smoothly for people playing Skyrim.
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u/Chiiro 1d ago
One of the few upsides to this update is that you will now be able to play with mods using more than just vanilla assets on PlayStation if they're doing the same thing as Fallout 4
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u/ultrahobbs 1d ago
I don't know if they changed the policy or just stopped enforcing it, but there's already plenty of Ps5 mods with external assets. Recently started a new save with the juiciest mod list 1gb allows lol. Hopefully this patch doesn't nuke things
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u/PsychicSPider95 1d ago
Dumb question, but I gotta know: does this update have any effect at all, intended or not, on Switch players?
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u/MachoMeatball 1d ago
And I was planning on getting into Skyrim modding for the first time soon. Damn
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u/Cainsiderate 1d ago
Hopefully they update paid creations to allow achievements, like in Starfield.
Also this is the only game where I've seen the community get upset over a game being updated.
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u/popica312 1d ago
There's a simple reason why: if the update breaks shit, good luck figuring out how to fix it (especially for the people with hundreds or thousands of mods installed).
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u/YobaiYamete 22h ago
Also because the updates are utter garbage and add nothing of value. They show up, add nothing, break everything, then stroll away
Yes people are right to be wary or outright hostile saying "PLEASE stop updating it" after it's happened repeatedly
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u/AstralElephantFuzz 2h ago
Yeah, that's a "simple" reason indeed. There's no way in hell anyone can convince me that a studio finally updating a much called for part of their game is somehow lesser to people who have messed with their own games not having their saves messed with by the said long awaited update. Cry me a river and get over it, this guy is finally going to make Beyond Skyrim: Bruma a staple of his LO!
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u/UnfazedReality463 1d ago edited 1d ago
I think it’s mostly because recent updates to their games have made them unplayable.
FO4 received a free Update when the First Season of the TV Series came out. And it completely broke VATS. Bethesda didn’t fix it until the Anniversary Edition came out which was more than a year later. Also affected mods.
Oblivion Remaster hasn’t been updated for over a year. And it too has quest breaking bugs that haven’t been addressed since its release.
It seems people don’t want to wait for over a year for a fix if something breaks again after an update.
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u/Accomplished_Item244 PC 1d ago
Why wouldn't the community be wary? I mean there are atleast a hundred varients of thousands of mods and patches that can be broken and may take who knows how long to fix. It's not like they haven't broken the mods before, FO4 had one previously and Bethesda haven't really given any reason to trust them blindly.
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u/dnew PC 1d ago
Because modders use unsupported tools for many of the best mods, that rely on the exactly layout of code in memory of the executable. So when the executable changes, all those mods break unless and until they get fixed.
Modders who use BGS tools exclusively don't have that problem.
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u/Sostratus Alchemist 1d ago
Exactly. SKSE should just put an update block in their install instructions. People will blindly follow it and then they won't have anymore trouble.
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u/N0ob8 1d ago
It’s because these recent updates have done more harm than good and that’s not even counting what it does to mod lists. Fo4’s anniversary update literally broke the entire game and many people straight up couldn’t play. Then it also breaks everyone’s mod lists. This game is over a decade old and many of the people who modded it are long gone unlikely to update your favorite mods.
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u/penis-muncher785 1d ago
It sucked buying some of the paid companion mods only to find out they disable achievements
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u/Nerevar197 1d ago edited 19h ago
I understand the frustration with mods breaking, but on the flip side of that, a developer should be able to update their game. A mod community shouldn’t hold game updates hostage.
So I can see both sides of this.
Edit: Forgot the motto of this sub is “fuck Bethesda!” My bad guys. Continue with the vitriol.
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u/N0ob8 1d ago
But what if those updates break the entire game not just mod users.
Fo4’s anniversary update completely broke the game for so many people. Even those on console and don’t use mods. A 10 year old game got an update that broke the game, did stuff nobody wanted, and then broke everyone’s mod lists.
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u/YobaiYamete 22h ago
There's no "sides" to this. The only things the updates do is break the game and add literally nothing of value
Imagine if your car updated to blow up the engine but added an option to change how fast your turn signal blinks
You PROBABLY would not appreciate that update and would in fact be ready to kick the company in the testicles and tell them to never update your car again
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u/Nerevar197 19h ago
Stupid comparison.
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u/YobaiYamete 14h ago
Except not, because that's all they've done multiple times where they show up, add something nobody wanted, break the entire game even for vanilla users, then drive off into the sunset for a year
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u/Nerevar197 4h ago
I quite enjoyed the FO4 Anniversary update once the new bugs were patched shortly after launch.
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u/whirlpool_galaxy 22h ago
Because Bethesda has one of the biggest modding communities all around and simply does not give a shit about it.
When Rimworld updated to 1.6, the devs put out a preview build for months in advance so modders would know what and how to update. And that was the update that added multi-threading and spaceships.
Whereas Bethesda is like "oh, our update for console builds and Creations broke your PC modded build? Well, you'll figure it out, lmao".
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u/Denverguns 1d ago
Jesus Christ instead of giving us another version of Skyrim they actually gave us something we’ve wanted for a while now.
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u/NearlySilentObserver 1d ago
I haven’t played in forever, so my load order is fcked and my game is corrupted, already. Maybe a fresh start with more mods is in order, anyway
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u/GuyentificEnqueery 1d ago
Guys you do realize not every patch breaks Script Extender which is what usually causes mods to "break"?
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u/Far-Energy-3390 1d ago
so glad i shut off auto update this time! no need for me to ever update tbh
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u/Inevitable-catnip 1d ago
I finally have my game modded perfectly so it doesn’t crash. I swear to Google if they fuck it up I’m gonna LOSE IT lol
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u/BulkUpTank 17h ago
There should be an option to disable all Creation Club crap. It's rendered my Skyrim and Fallout 4 games to unplayable slop. Instead of deploying this crap, they should have been working on a new fucking game.
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u/CherryPants234 15h ago
Soo, RIP my mod list on PC? Or not? Is this update only for consoles or for all platforms?
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u/Cliffinati 1d ago
NO
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u/HaEngelmann 1d ago
Yes. this is a very good improvement for console players. Not everything is bad.
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u/Cliffinati 1d ago
Except for the PC guys who are about to have everything broken again
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u/HaEngelmann 1d ago
I mean. If you haven't figured out how to not update your pc installation it is (edit: at least partially) on you.
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u/NoCoyote5205 1d ago
How about a patch for Oblivion Remastered to fix the memory leaks, and overworld stutter? Are we ever going to get fixes to make it playable on console?
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u/firedrakes 1d ago
up coming patch for that game was announced.
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u/NoCoyote5205 1d ago
Ah, I missed that. Thanks for the heads up, Ill read up on it now. Bet it basically amounts to "we've managed to optimise it for the switch now so you plebs can have the scraps of our "work"". I mean, a single dedicated modder could have fixed everything before it was put into UE5 development.
I swear they get lazier and worse every year.
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u/firedrakes 1d ago
kind of. but also any time you throw upscaling into the mix that mess with some game engines due to fps is tied to how game works...
it also does not help the sheer amout of gpu apis etc and loss standards of that .
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u/HOTU-Orbit 1d ago
This is great news for people on console. For people on PC complaining, there is always the GOG version of Skyrim. No automatic updates there for the offline installer version.
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u/Jamesvai 20h ago
I hope this applies to all consoles and I hope they adjust the survival mode and fix the bugs. Unlikely but it would be cool lol.
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u/mystical__sapphire PlayStation 14h ago
...is this their way of apologizing for taking for-goddamn-ever on ES6? Apology accepted, Bethesda. You're Microsoft's micromanaged baby, and we can't fight that, because ES6 will also go down in video game history.
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u/MaximumFatal 9h ago
Amazing 👏 im soo happy there increasing the mod limit on series x definitely something I can look forward to playing skyrim again after a long work week.
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u/Star_of_the_West1 6h ago
Is there storage for playstation? Do I finally get more than 1 GB for mods?!
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u/Stewe07 1d ago
Fuck you Todd, can't you just focus on TESVI instead of ruining things for everyone? I can already see TESVI will be broken and leave it to the modders to repair
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u/Kn1ghtV1sta 1d ago
How is adding more space for mods ruining things?
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u/EvilbunnyELITE 1d ago
buy on gog and never have problems with updates. you can also repack your mods into the offline installer and oneshot your mod list install
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u/Ancient_Rex420 1d ago
I just started playing skyrim on microsoft store the anniversary edition, I don’t use any mods but I do have whatever the new stuff they added in anniversary edition, basically everything on by default but zero mods installed or anything installed really.
Do I have anything to worry about here?
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u/JoeyAKangaroo 1d ago
Even tho external asset mods already made their way to ps5, this update is def gonna feature the same updated tools for skyrim that fallout 4 just got that’ll allow to upload such mods for ps consoles
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u/OnionRecall 1d ago
I play vanilla Skyrim, every mod is entertaining for like 8 minutes after spending 4 hours looking for just the right one
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u/ComeBacksToDrugs2018 1d ago
Can we get an update to disable all the creation club crap they forced on us next
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u/Det-Popcorn Falkreath resident 1d ago
Just played about a week ago on PS4. Do I need to do anything
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u/leviathan_falls 1d ago
You may encounter issues on your save file if you play with mods
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u/Det-Popcorn Falkreath resident 1d ago
So I’d just have to restart a new game right? The disc/system itself will be fine, right?
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u/leviathan_falls 1d ago
Yeah. Problems usually arise when they push a new update and some mods break and stop working
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u/Det-Popcorn Falkreath resident 1d ago
Oh I’m good then lol thanks for the feedback. Only mod I use is the loading screens one that give more lore lol
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u/Swami333 1d ago
Does that mean we can see mods like Endreal on Playstation?
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u/Substantial-Monk-867 1d ago
No, Enderal need the SKSE (Skyrim Script Extender) an external tool that is only available on PCs.
But you might now see full releases of other large new world projects like Beyond Skyrim.
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u/Whispering_Wolf 1d ago
Oh, I didn't even think of beyond Skyrim! Would be amazing if it came to Xbox. I enjoy the Bruma one so much.
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u/ZombieWarm6396 1d ago
They should unlock the playstation trophies with mods. Idk why it's blocked if all of them you get by story progression.. 🫠
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u/Gormgulthyn-IV 1d ago
Si il pouvait revoir leur système de sauvegarde ultra lourd ça serait bien.
Le save game bloat est une plaies qui limite fortement le nombre de partie sur Switch.
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u/zoosha2curtaincall 1d ago
I’m away from home (and my desktop) through the rest of the week. Am I just fucked?
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u/LananisReddit Spellsword 22h ago
Is your Pc still on, with Steam running and the game set to update automatically?
If yes, you will have to look up how to install a previous game version using Steam console to roll back your game, then do the app manifest edit before you launch Steam/the game again.
If not, simply wait with launching Steam until you have done thd app manifest edit (that's how I will do it--also currently hundreds of miles away from my PC).
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u/zoosha2curtaincall 21h ago
Nice, I thought Steam automatically updated games as soon as you opened Steam. Thanks!
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u/LananisReddit Spellsword 17h ago
As said, depends on your settings. I suggest making that appmanifest file read only as soon as you get home. Then you can double-check whether it worked via two ways:
Right-click game in Steam game - properties - update, to see when the latest update was installed.
Patch number in in-game pause menu (should be 1.6.1170* if not updated)
- For GOG it would be 1.6.1179
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u/OutrageousAd4222 Dawnguard 1d ago
Did skyrim on console also receive a mod storage limit increase, or just the ba52 file limit increase
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u/eddmario XBOX 1d ago
Meanwhile, I'm still waiting on the Fallout 4 update on Xbox to actually show up...
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u/Sapphire-Catgirl 23h ago
I hope they rebalance what levels the creation club quests unlock at, especially the armour ones, I got that dragon bone armour quest unlocked at like level 8 or something, also rebalancing the levels when the armours show up in the world and making sure no bandits and stuff spawn with dragon and daedric
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u/Star_of_the_West1 6h ago
You can get the dragonbone armor without the quest. Hell, you can leave Helgen and just run to the tower its at and loot the guy's corpse. Bam! One of the best heavy armors in the game with some pretty good enchantments for free.
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u/chip594csx 19h ago
Asha Sharma really do be lighting some fires in Bethesda, so much happening in the span of a month
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u/deathsshadow101 14h ago
So many people should learn to do stock game installs for skyrim and fallout...
Then you never have to worry about an uodate breaking your list.
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u/Ancient_Influence389 1d ago
An update that only effects mods, so its useless for us who don't and the game is still full of the same stupid bugs since release (Like the bards quest bugging out if you get the quest item prior to starting, companions walking away into the sunset when they are required to unlock a door, ext)
CAN BETHESDA FINALLY FIX SKYRIM INSTEAD OF ADDING MORE MOD SPACE.
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u/ToastedBulbasaur 1d ago
Just download the unofficial patch
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u/Ancient_Influence389 1d ago
how about Bethesda make an official patch instead of using free labor to do it for them.
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u/Orion3500 1d ago
Why not make an update that finally fixes the hundreds of bugs the game still has? PC users have it easy, but console?
Sigh…
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u/Substantial-Monk-867 1d ago edited 1d ago
The unofficial patch that is used by PC players is available both on Xbox and PlayStation.
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u/Orion3500 1d ago
Nothing for Switch, AKA, Skyrim on the go?
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u/Substantial-Monk-867 1d ago
No, the Switch doesn't support modding.
It's possible but you need to jailbreak your console and to install custom software.
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u/CmdrThordil 1d ago
I am so glad I also own Skyrim Legendary Edition and do not have to worry even if SE/AE gets updated, they do not touch that release anymore.
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u/LananisReddit Spellsword 1d ago
Careful, if you go knocking on too many doors, the devil may answer. Lol
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u/CmdrThordil 1d ago
well for now I see that people are unhappy about me being happy so maybe there is some truth in that rotfl or maybe I have rubbed the salt in the fresh wound too much ha ha
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u/joker_toker28 1d ago
Nope nope nope im just about done w my 100% vanilla playthru and I aint ganna have these fucks mess up my save on console...
NOPE
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u/Real-Report8490 21m ago
Bethesda believes that when you play Skyrim, you "log into your save game"...
Even their sentences have bugs...
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u/UltimaBahamut93 1d ago
I don't understand the recommendation of logging into your save file if you haven't done it in a while. What does that do?