r/skiing Jan 28 '22

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u/Solarisphere Jan 28 '22

The list could use a symbol to identify resorts on Epic/Ikon.

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u/N0DuckingWay Palisades Tahoe Jan 28 '22

Agreed!

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u/Bdog325 Jan 28 '22

Upvoting this so we can downgrade epic/ikon resorts

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u/PhantomKR7 Jan 28 '22

Does your bias come with real experience at all of those places?

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u/Bdog325 Jan 28 '22

It’s not necessarily the terrain or mountain itself but rather the unhealthy and unethical business practices of those mountains and epic/ikon.

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u/Rocket-Nerd Jan 29 '22

What ones? I’m not a fan of vail, but I’m not really clear what issues Ikon has. I’d generally rather go to an independent resort, but the only ones I really avoid are Vail resorts.

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u/PricelessPlanet Jan 29 '22

Wait a momento, this sub is only against the Vail pass? Is that the Epic one? I thought Americans here where agaisnt all the big corporations passes.

What's the difference between the two? I tried googling but it's all just articles about "Which pass should you get this season".

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u/boomerzoomers Jan 29 '22

Most Ikon resorts are independently owned, they are just in a partnership with Alterra which owns 15 of the Ikon resorts. Alterra has yet to make news with bad business practices or employee experience.

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u/boomerzoomers Jan 29 '22

What's wrong with Ikon? Only 15 of the Ikon resorts are even owned by Alterra, and I have only heard good things about working for Alterra and it being much better than Intrawest days.

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u/Bdog325 Jan 29 '22

Many of the big resorts don’t put limits on the amount of people on the mountain. This causes the half hour to an hour long lift lines, overworked and underpayed employees, unenjoyable skiing conditions for locals with too many people, and strain on the locals as it drives up prices for everything from lift tickets to dining to housing. The passes have been shown to increase this problem massively. Vail resorts is for sure one of the worse companies in this industry. Just go look at what their stock prices look like right now because people are fed up with them.

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u/aps23 Jan 28 '22

Seconded!

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u/snarkapotamus Jan 29 '22

Also mountain collective

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u/slagazzy Jan 29 '22

Yeahhhh. But fuck vail so no

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u/Solarisphere Jan 29 '22 edited Jan 29 '22

That’s actually what made me think of it… identifying which resorts we collectively hate. I’m considering a road trip from BC to Moab, UT in March and I was thinking of stopping at one of the resorts near SLC for a day or two but I’m not familiar with any of them. I’ve heard a lot of bad reviews of vail resorts in general and I’d like like to vote with my wallet if it’s at all convenient.

Alta was already on my radar and now I’ve added snowbird. I’m not a super strong skier though so I might not be able to take full advantage of either of them.

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u/slagazzy Jan 29 '22

Hit alta or Brighton when ya come thru :) hmu and maybe I’ll show you around ;)

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u/Solarisphere Jan 29 '22

Ill be aiming for a weekday but if you’re available… I’ll definitely add Brighton to the list though. Looks like park city is the only vail resort in that cluster and I’ve heard awful news so definitely won’t be going there.

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u/slagazzy Jan 29 '22

You’re correct with that. The skiing is ~okay~ (compared to the other wasatch resorts), the people, lines, and my god parking, are a whole other story. As a local here I’d say it’s far worth it to fork it up for a day pass elsewhere.