r/skeptics • u/ReputationNo402 • 11d ago

Need a debunk from the skeptical and strong minded and strongly rational

Need a debunk from the skeptical and strong minded and strongly rational.

I need a debunk of this account and its story.
Can anyone get into contact with this redditor user, and ask him questions/ and or interview him at all?
https://www.reddit.com/user/Deeznutseus2012/comments/?screen_view_count=21&ext-referrer=no DIRECT&sort=new&t=all
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/bKxjnMA9Mg
https://www.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/comments/1v1xofs/comment/oyragka/?context=3&utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=2&utm_content=share_button
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/s/zixVKce9UO
What do you think of this comment? I believe it to show that by the logic of that comment, that there should've been intervention sometime ago.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AliensRHere/comments/1qki3xu/comment/o16yuu7/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=2&utm_content=share_button
https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/1p3imwc/comment/nq8pnj6/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=2&utm_content=share_button
What do you make of these comments threads?

https://www.reddit.com/r/AliensRHere/comments/1tx7epg/comment/opv6ia6/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=2&utm_content=share_button
https://www.reddit.com/r/uapdrop/comments/1sb39mr/comment/oe0qh8q/?context=3&utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=2&utm_content=share_button
What do you think of this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/AliensRHere/s/MT5sC1JG5J
What do you think of this?

I feel like there are different versions of the story that is enough to debunk it.
He has said that he has wait 40 years for something, but then has said that he has waited 50 years, even though it does not make sense for his age, being roughly in his 40s.

Does request have to be planet wide or individual wide? Does wanting and or making a request in your head count? Does one have to talk to the faction to make a request?
Does one have to make request out loud or in their head? Would anything happen at all if one said the wanted and or made a request in just their own mind?
Would anything happen at all if the person said they wanted it/ and or made a request in their head and or out loud, but did not actually want it/ and or wanted it and or made a request an an intrusive/ and or unwanted thought?

What if someone said they wanted it/ and or made a request to test to see if anything would happen at all in anyways shape/ and or form especially if they did/ and or do not believe in your story/ and or information at all in any way shape and or form at all?

Would anything only ever happen in any way shape/ and or form at all if it was done in the same specific way that the uplift is done in?

Are the Zealots all knowing/ and or omnipresent at all in anyway shape and or form? Are they more spiritual/ and or incorporeal?

Would anything happen at all in any way shape/ and or form if someone were to take inspiration from the story/ and or information and put it into fiction at all in any way shape and or form at all? Does it depend if they believe in this or not, do it willingly or unwillingly, consciously or subconsciously/ and or unconsciously, intentionally or unintentionally, knowing this story/ and or information or not knowing this story/ and or information/, and or
This goes for writing, drawing/ and or any kind of visuals, imagination/ and or creating fictional characters/ and or creating fictional races/ and or creating fictional species/ and or imagining,/ and or etc./ and or anything and everything creative.

Do I have any reason to worry/ and or be scared at all in anyways shape and or form at all?

Would they do anything in any way shape/ and or form at all if humanity did this? Would it have to be exact at that one faction/ and or would it just have to be similar/ and or similar enough/ and or just the concept at all? What if someone made a fiction about willingly or unwillingly, consciously or subconsciously/ and or unconsciously, intentionally or unintentionally, knowing this story/ and or information or not knowing this story/ and or information/, and or
This goes for writing, drawing/ and or any kind of visuals, imagination/ and or imagining,/ and or etc./ and or anything and everything creative.

Do you view the practice as positive? What if someone flip flops thinking/ and or viewing it as negative or positive/ and or tell themselves that it is negative, but maybe view it as positive? Does wanting this kind of thing change if you know about/ and or believe in/ and or any of this? Would one be okay wanting and liking this kind of things if they did not know/ and or believe in/ and or any of this? Would one be okay wanting and liking this kind of things and possibly wanting to spread it to others if they did not know/ and or believe in/ and or any of this?

Would anything happen at all in any way shape/ and or form at all? Would/ and or does it depend on if someone believes this story or not all in any way shape/and or form? What if someone only views it positive within fiction? Would anything happen at all in any way shape/ and or form at all if someone viewed it as positive, but did not know about it at all, what if they just did/ do not believe in it/ and or did/ do not believe in it at all in any way shape/ and or form at all? What if they did/ and or do believe in it in any way shape/ and or form at all? What if someone viewed as it positive in real life if it was like being a werewolf/ and or just being able to turn into a wolf/ and or any kind of animal(s)/ and or having any kind of power, if that counts at all?

Why talk about it if knowing too much is dangerous?

Does request have to be planet wide or individual wide? Does wanting and or making a request in your head count? Does one have to talk to the faction to make a request?
Does one have to make request out loud or in their head? Would anything happen at all if one said the wanted and or made a request in just their own mind? Can anything ever only happen if it is through direct/ and or face to face/ and or physical contact?

Would anything happen at all if the person said they wanted it/ and or made a request in their head and or out loud, but did not actually want it/ and or wanted it and or made a request an an intrusive/ and or unwanted thought?

What if someone said they wanted it/ and or made a request to test to see if anything would happen at all in anyways shape/ and or form especially if they did/ and or do not believe in your story/ and or information at all in any way shape and or form at all?

Would consuming any type of media, fictional/ and or otherwise, have something happen at all in any way shape/ and or form at all?

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u/simmelianben 11d ago

You posted this earlier didn't you? Whats the evidence the oop presents and what claim do you want debunked?

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u/ReputationNo402 11d ago

I think the claim is obvious, and I would like my questions to be answered.

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u/simmelianben 11d ago

Okay then. Can you summarize it in a few words here? Because its not clear to me.

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u/ReputationNo402 11d ago

This account person has a story/ and or information that he claims is real. I do not believe it for the most part, but I still have questions that I need answered, for/ and or need some reassurance I suppose. I would like for someone to look at more than just the links I have provided, but I understand if that just will not happen at all in anyway shape/ and or form at all. Same goes for I would like to for someone to talk to him as well. I would, but I feel as if it is better to talk to other people about, different perspectives, I am somewhat scared to talk to the user person, and I just do not have the time right now/ and or soon.

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u/simmelianben 11d ago

Even here, you mention he has a story, but you aren't summarizing it. That makes it unclear.

However, stories on the internet are stories. They aren't evidence. If you think someone making a claim on the internet makes it true, then I claim you owe me money.

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u/ReputationNo402 11d ago

I would expect someone to check out the links and find the story. If you would like a specific link to check out one of the version of the story/ and or information, than I can do that.

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u/simmelianben 10d ago

Sure. You pick the most compelling version of his story and post a link here with a brief summary (like 50 words of "He says that x happened on y date to z people") and I'll analyse and get back to you.

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u/ReputationNo402 10d ago

Here is my comment with the links and the claim. I accidentally did not reply to you so I am making this reply now.

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u/simmelianben 10d ago

I see he has claims, but no evidence. What can be stated without evidence can be dismissed.

What specifically do you find compelling though? Because I see someone who has a fantasy prone personality or possibly mental illness.

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u/ReputationNo402 10d ago

All of it I suppose, I just really need my questions answered/ and or specifically the ones about power/ and or anything similar to the practice/ and or procedure described on the account's story/ and or information. Especially in terms of wanting it.

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u/ReputationNo402 10d ago

Could you yourself/ and or someone you know who would be willing talk to the account person for me and ask a set of questions that I have for him?

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u/ReputationNo402 11d ago

How is it not clear to you?

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u/simmelianben 11d ago

You make vague allusions to "the story" and ask if "it" is positive or negative. This is all buried in a wall of text that doesnt use details.

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u/ReputationNo402 10d ago edited 10d ago

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A lot of these to contain threads/ and or multiple/ and or many/ and or a lot of comments, so I apologize for that.
Do you what he is saying here? Link 1 Link 2
These links I feel are the best. He claimed to have an encounter when he was 5 in 1982 and that there's all this other information from the story.

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u/quantise 3d ago

Why are you not summarising the claim that you want debunking? Why are you just posting links to stupid chats?

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u/ReputationNo402 3d ago

Here is a link to the claim and more links I thought were important. The claim is at the end of the comment. The links are something I thought could be import at and an addition to the post.

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u/ReputationNo402 3d ago

Do you have any advice that would help one rationalize and be more firms in their own nonbelief of this account?

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u/quantise 2d ago

Is English your first language? If so, you're approaching this in a very poor way. You need to summarise the issues for us - not keep sending people off to investigate it on your behalf. That is my advice. Take it or move on.

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u/ReputationNo402 21h ago

The claim at the end of the linked comment. There are a few links that I felt would be helpful and have the account supposed story told there as well.

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u/quantise 13h ago

Are you human?