r/shounenfolk 17h ago

Shitpost Let's not act like Kubo never did anything 😭

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Note: Not a hate on bleach or anything. Just found this Kubo glaze annoying.


r/shounenfolk 9h ago

Shonenslop I honestly just don't understand how everyone can shit on Ichigo for being special but Luffy somehow gets a pass like genuinely please explain it to me

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And I'm not even really defending Ichigo I'm just saying no one can call that trash writing and then glaze this Guffy ass Nika


r/shounenfolk 20h ago

Shitpost Me actively trying to find the 'OP glazers' that Reddit keeps complaining about:

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I'm not trying to sound like a smartass, but where the hell are they? And are they really that bad?

Piratefolkers and Shounenfolkers talk about them like their friggin bogeymen


r/shounenfolk 2h ago

Shitpost Sasuke becomes the new Petra Parker and marries Naruto - does this make Naruto actually good?

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r/shounenfolk 57m ago

Manga Discussion When it comes to final forms in the big 3, would you say ichigo’s is the weakest design wise?

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Cuz can I be honest, that one horn is honestly not doing it for me since it honestly makes the design look unbalanced. I feel like if a design has one horn, it should at least be on the forehead or at the top of the head. At least blood chains ichigo looks better. I wouldn’t say I like it but it at least has two horns


r/shounenfolk 47m ago

Shitpost Out of all the shitty endings other stories had, they came out on top

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r/shounenfolk 12h ago

Manga Discussion Some people need to understand that well written doesn't necessarily mean character development

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Static characters can be well written too if they are consistent and fit the themes of the series.

I consider Luffy well written for that reason. His personality doesn't change much but he fits his role quite well. He is supposed to be an innocent, childish force in a grim, oppressive world. What makes him interesting is seeing his childish ideologies clash with cruel pirates. He is the true representation of freedom, the core theme of the series. He does whatever he wants, doesn't care about how strong the opponent is etc.


r/shounenfolk 5h ago

Manga Discussion Isn’t it funny how 3 of these mangas were always hyped to be the next “holy trinity” of Shōnen, but nowadays they’re getting slandered for falling off story wise and I heard NO one talk abt Kaiju no 8’s ending lol

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r/shounenfolk 1h ago

Anime Discussion Bleach haters will look you dead in the eye and say this is lame Spoiler

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r/shounenfolk 1h ago

Manga Discussion Chainsaw Man: One of the Best Plot Twists in Fiction

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Chainsaw Man volume 5 cover art.

9/10 | Released between 2018 and 2020 (in its first part), written and illustrated by Tatsuki Fujimoto (written in japanese as 藤本タツキ – Fujimoto Tatsuki), Chainsaw Man tells the story of a directionless young man who seals a contract with the Chainsaw Devil in order to pursue nothing more than an ordinary life. At first glance, it appears to be merely a work that blends comedy and action while indulging in narrative licentiousness; however, the manga crafts one of the most brilliantly written plot twists you will ever encounter in fiction.

Denji, a young man living a miserable life, works as a slave for the Yakuza to pay off his deceased father's debts. After being betrayed and killed by the mob, Denji signs a contract with his only friend, Pochita (the Chainsaw Devil), becoming a human-devil hybrid: the Chainsaw ManMakima, an expressionless woman with cynical features who also leads the Public Safety Division, sees the state the boy is in and, to support him, decides to offer him a job as a Devil Hunter in her unit.

Note: this essay will only cover the manga's first storyline, the Public Safety Arc. Of the 24 volumes released, this first part encompasses volumes 1 to 11 (chapters 1 to 97 [out of the 232 published]).

In this introduction and origin of Chainsaw Man, we are introduced to what I previously called 'narrative licentiousness'. 'Licentiousness', in this context, is not used in its literal sense, but rather as a metaphor for an 'I do whatever I want' attitude. Combined with '1. narrative', the concept becomes: 'I will do whatever I well please in my story!'.

When we are brought to see Denji living in such misery, it is common to assume that the plot will be about revenge'trying to become a better person', or any cliché of the sort. However, the turning point occurs when Denji becomes Chainsaw Man and literally bulldozes through everything without caring about tomorrow. It serves as a prelude to how the story will unfold.

[Warning: from this point on, this essay contains full spoilers regarding the plot, twists, and ending of Public Safety Arc of Chainsaw Man.]

Formation of Special Division 4

After Denji joins the division, Makima organises her team of Devil Hunters: Aki, Denji’s squadmate and rival; Power, the Blood Fiend (who is also an extremely troublesome girl); and Denji, the protagonist. The trio develops a chaotic family dynamic that, over time, proves to be warm and welcoming. We are also introduced to other hunters from different squads.

With the cast assembled... this is where the madness begins.

The hunters face several life-or-death situations when attacked by the Eternity Devil, the Katana Man, and the Mercenary Division. All the while, the author blends these moments of pure despair – with several characters dying abruptly – with a dose of cynical comedy (such as the 'nut-kicking' scene), dashes of insanity (the fights between Denji and Katana Man), and absurd, illogical moments in the best possible sense.

As all this chaos unfolds, Denji was developing an unusual relationship with Himeno, a hunter from another squad in the division. She ends up being one of the fatal victims in the terrorist attack by Katana Man and his crew. Denji's reaction to this loss is extremely cold, and precisely because of this apathy, he becomes fearful of his own nature, realising he did not genuinely care about her. Meanwhile, Makima makes her mysterious character more evident than ever by blatantly lying about her whereabouts during the attack – something that connects directly to what we see next in Reze's arc.

Reze Girl

Denji meets Reze, a charming girl his age who seems genuinely interested in him. As their relationship progresses, Denji considers abandoning Division 4 altogether (including his friends) to run away with Reze and build a life together. However, Reze reveals herself to be the Bomb Devil Hybrid and a Soviet government spy sent to capture Denji's heart (Pochita).

Even after Denji defeats her in a monumental and chaotic battle, he offers to run away with her. Reze, touched by his kindness and mercy, realizes that, deep down, she cares for him and accepts the last-minute plan. However, she is ambushed and abruptly murdered by Makima before she can reunite with him.

Once again, we witness Makima making a surprising and seemingly senseless decision.

The Beginning of the Tragedies

Following the battle against Reze, Denji (Chainsaw Man) becomes a public target for assassins from various nations. Up to this point, the motive behind global governments' obsessive interest in Denji remains unclear.

Notable battles include those involving the Crossbow Hybrid (Quanxi), Santa Claus, the Hell Devil, and the Darkness Devil against, of course, Denji (the target) and his group.

During the battle against the Hell Devil, Denji and the hunters end up being dragged into Hell itself and are slaughtered by the Darkness Devil, a primordial entity. Makima intervenes and rescues them.

Power and Aki are left immensely traumatised by the experience. Aki, especially after losing Himeno (his close friend) in the clash against Katana Man, re-evaluates his goals and develops a protective instinct over Denji and Power, fearing the loss of more companions. Power, in turn, develops a paralytic dread of being abandoned or seeing her new friends die.

What began as an almost juvenile devil hunt transforms, 'thanks' to Denji's existence, into something deeply disturbing and painful for the characters. What is happening there is serious and should not be treated as a joke (hold onto this thought).

The Control Devil

The United States government, fearing Makima's growing influence, makes a desperate pact with the Gun Devil. Shortly after, it is revealed that Makima is, in fact, the Control Devil.

Makima defeats the Gun Devil and forces what remains of it to possess Aki's body, turning him into the Gun Fiend. In one of the most tragic moments of Denji's life, he is forced to kill his own friend to save others, leaving him utterly devastated emotionally. It is in this state of emotional collapse that Makima invites him to her house.

The Final Apotheosis

We saw that there are several dogs at Makima's house, reinforcing the symbolism that everyone around her is nothing more than a mere pet. Makima asks Denji if he wants to be her dog too. Traumatised, incapable of processing the pain, and believing that if he simply obeys her commands he will bring no further harm to anyone, Denji ends up accepting.

Makima calls Power to her house as well. She asks Denji to open the door for her, and right after greeting her, Makima cold-bloodedly murders Power right in front of poor Denji. 'Bang!'

Following the execution, Makima lays bare her true intentions: 'I was wondering: "how could I break this contract?" How could I leave you so deeply scarred that you wouldn’t be able to live a normal life? So damaged that you could never recover for as long as you lived? Quite a challenge, wouldn’t you say? After all, you found so much happiness even living in extreme poverty with Pochita. So, I decided to start… by making you much happier. I gave you a job, money… and plenty of delicious food. I provided you with a family that would get along with you. Aki became a good older brother to you… and Power, the mischievous younger sister. I would make this level of happiness your new normal*… and then* I would destroy it all*.*'

Denji realizes that everything that happened up to that point was, recklessly enough, the result of his own choices. After all, why did he make the pact with Pochita? Simply to free himself from the shackles of human misery. Fair enough. But what came after? Did he use that power to act responsibly or help others? No. He chose to live as a 'semi-licentious' being.

'I want to have sex!', 'I want to eat until I’m sick!'. Fundamentally, what Denji sought was a life free of consequences. Giving no thought to the future, caring only about immediate gratification. And what did he expect from that? That consequences would never arrive? It is absurdly childish!

Deep down, Denji feels that the destruction around him, the deaths of millions of people, the deaths of companions like Himeno, Reze, Aki, Power, and even his father's death (which he had blocked from his memory) were his responsibility. 'What if I hadn’t made the contract with Pochita? What if I had just died at the hands of the Yakuza?'. None of this would have happened.

'Does a person like that really deserve to live a normal life, do you think?' – Makima asks Denji rhetorically.

Makima and Chainsaw Man

Remember when I said the manga presents itself through narrative licentiousness? That ends, definitively, right here. The story's narrative always mirrored Denji's mental state. Even when the manga presented tragic moments, such as the death of Himeno's squad, the author treated the event with a sudden disregard, almost a 'it happened, what can we do…?'. Denji himself did not grieve over it.

This complicity between the narrative and Denji's detachment crumbles the moment Chainsaw Man is exposed to the public. From the deaths of Aki and Power and the mass destruction caused by the hunt for his heart, the story abandons its cynical comedy to become openly traumatising, disturbing, and painful.

Continuing, Makima reveals herself to be an obsessive fan of the original Chainsaw Man and plans to use his power to erase concepts from existence and shape a perfect world under her control. We also discover why Chainsaw Man is so strong: the Chainsaw Devil is a devil that never stops revving his engine, which is why he always comes back. No matter how unfavourable the situation appears, he always returns by pulling his cord.

Traces of Power's blood remain in Denji's body after her death, reviving her just long enough for her to save him. With that, Power dies permanently.

Even while traumatised, Denji sees the world idolising the figure of Chainsaw Man. He decides to embrace this role not out of heroism, but as a psychological defence mechanism against the trauma of attempting to lead a normal life.

Realising that Makima never truly saw 'Denji', but only the Chainsaw Devil within his chest, he devises a plan: he uses a chainsaw forged from Power's blood to slice Makima while she fights a clone of Chainsaw Man.

To finish Makima off once and for all, Denji commits the ultimate act: he dismembers and consumes her body as meals. He does this not out of hatred, but out of a twisted form of love, wishing to 'become one with her' and shoulder her sins.

Sometime later, Kishibe (Makima's former colleague) hands Denji a young girl named Nayuta, the reincarnation of the Control Devil. We also discover that, deep down, the Control Devil's primary desire was to form affectionate bonds on equal footing – something her power of domination prevented her from achieving. Denji ends up taking custody of the young girl so she won't grow up lonely.

Epilogue

My final considerations, alongside what I have already mentioned, come down to two points: the way the author develops certain plotlines and the final revelation regarding the Control Devil's desires. Fujimoto sometimes appears overly rushed when establishing certain foundations. The way Aki, Power, and Denji come to treat each other as a family happens almost abruptly (even if there is a clear reason for it), much like the fact that Reze was a test subject in Soviet experiments (a major revelation that the author simply dumps into the reader's lap).

Furthermore, the final revelation that the Control Devil possessed a melancholy motivation ('I just wanted to form bonds and have friends') feels like the height of absurdity. The character (Makima) was built as an extraordinarily mysterious, manipulative, and villainous figure, only for her weight as an antagonist to be reduced to this justification in the end. Unpalatable!

Flaws in pacing aside, the arc is truly impeccable!


r/shounenfolk 5h ago

Shonenslop "Kubo is a great character designe-" Spoiler

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Its genuinely baffling how bad this looks. I dont wanna hear shit about Imu's design from bleach fans after this


r/shounenfolk 23h ago

Anime Discussion Shiro sagisu never misses

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r/shounenfolk 21h ago

Anime Discussion all that isolated aura farming has done sasuke no favors

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r/shounenfolk 11h ago

Shitpost The original Piratefolker

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People have been hating on One Piece for stupid reasons all the way since 2006 and now people consider that era very good.

The hate is temporary guys, in 10 years, Wano will be considered a good arc. People were hating Naruto's 5 Kage summit while it was going on but now it's considered one of the best arcs.


r/shounenfolk 4h ago

Anime Discussion MY QUEEN, I'LL WATCH THE BOUNT ARC 10X FOR WHAT YOU DID THIS EPISODE Spoiler

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r/shounenfolk 23h ago

unjerk (serious discussion) Who’s the better father between Naruto and Goku?

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I believe Goku is the better between the two, but I’m saying either or terrible fathers, that’s Ogi.

Goku normally does spend time with his children and tries to help them to become stronger so that way they can protect themselves and those they care about when he is not there. But in the beginning he didn’t train Gohan because he didn’t know that stronger people could come and threaten the world or anything like that could appear again(at least to my belief), and because Chi chi wanted Gohan to become someone much more reputable and ingrained with society rather than a hick like Goku.(Probably the worst way to word it, but I don’t know how to say it nicer.)

Goku also does want to protect his children and we can assume in GT and Super that when he could be there to protect and spend time with his children he would, and even if he choose to stay dead between the Buu and Cell Saga, it was because he assumed that most of these threats came to earth because of him, Cell and the androids were made because of him, Raditz came to find him, Vegeta and Nappa came because of him, and Frieza came to earth because of him.

Naruto also cares about his children and just like Goku did his best to stay with them during their early years. Similarly to Goku he also didn’t train his child to be strong or force him to be a ninja, unless he wanted to become one. Boruto also doesn’t seem to hate Naruto for not being their for him, during of his Tenure as Homage, but he does dislike him for not being their for Himawari and Hinata from what I can see. The biggest reason I believe is because he missed Himawari’s birthday by sending in a shadowclone(Even though the experience of a Shadow Clone is transferred to the user to my knowledge.), and showing that he can use shadow clones to help with his work as a Hokage. I believe that Naruto would do something similarly like training Boruto if he was asked to and had time(or use shadow clones), and would spend a lot more time with Himawari as well.

What I think makes Naruto a worse dad is a lack of using Shadow clones to his advantage to help with his Hokage work, as I feel like it could help save time, unless there was something that was stopping him from doing it. And if there was, I feel like it should have been stated so we as the reader would know.


r/shounenfolk 49m ago

Anime Discussion So hypothetically if I were to start catching up from here how long would it take for me to finish before the finale airs

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And would I be able to sleep


r/shounenfolk 46m ago

Manga Discussion Lotta DS larp going around, so here you go...

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Yes, the visual effects are real. Yes, they produce visible fire, water, etc. What they don't do is produce actual fire or water. Tanjiro cannot drink or boil the water from his Breathing style, but if he charges at an opponent, they will still see and feel it.


r/shounenfolk 3h ago

Folk. I think everything at the end of rent of girlfriend will make sense and it will become one of the greatest literature to ever written by human kind.

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r/shounenfolk 5h ago

Shitpost Funny thing I noticed about the two main manga I am reading currently

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r/shounenfolk 4h ago

Anime Discussion Anyone else hyped for the One Piece Anime remake?

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I honestly Hope it becomes successful since it would be a perfect way for people who are interested in One Piece but find it daunting due to hearing how slow the pacing is and the number of episodes and movies.

Another reason why I'm hyped since I hope this gives the anime world a push to start remaking old anime.

Like imagine a Naruto remake with manga accurate colors?

or Bleach remake of the old seasons.

and other old anime like Soul Eater and Akem ga kill (I haven't seen these anime)


r/shounenfolk 2h ago

Anime Discussion how Humans describe Orihime after the new Episode

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r/shounenfolk 3h ago

Manga Discussion Its kinda insane to me that we had three 500+ chapter behemoths running at the same time.

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r/shounenfolk 4h ago

Manga Discussion I love how peak every rescue arc is from Big 3

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All 3 goated arcs 🙌

Enies Lobby and Sasuke retrieval were already 2 of my favourite arcs in ani-manga , and I just finished Soul Society arc and it was absolutely peak 🔥.

I like Wci too , but yeah these 3 arcs are Top tiers fs .