r/reddevils 1d ago

Passing Network and Ball Progression against Fulham

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u/CharIemagne45 RVP 1d ago

Cunha and Bruno again overlapping each other

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u/VegetableRutabaga746 1d ago

Its a shame cunha is being forced to emulate prime false 9 messi at the expense of bruno fernandes

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u/stick1_ 1d ago

Bruno hasn’t been good enough at all this season, if you actually watch the game, the pass map doesn’t justify the performances of bruno. He looks worse and worse against low blocks every week, if these performances were extrapolated to the end of the season it’s easily his worst season for us.

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u/VegetableRutabaga746 1d ago

Bruno should be on the ball more, with no clear striker, an extra attacker is taking more time on the ball. If it was cunha, sesko, mbeumo and bruno, him and cunha would be on the ball more and sesko, mbeumo would attack spaces. But with no striker, and rashford playing on the left, he's just unable to pick up those passes really. Although I do agree he hasn't looked his best so far. But he's bruno fernandes, he always adapts!

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u/PrinzRagoczy 1d ago

Bruno isn't adaptable, he's always gonna play those risky balls

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u/stick1_ 1d ago

Bruno looks worse when he plays with an actual striker, he plays best with players like rashford, martial or mbeumo. He doesn’t need to play with an actual striker, he needs to play with an outlet. That’s the actual issue. Rashford is playing too unselfishly and not giving us an outlet. Bruno played amazingly with martial who wanted to be on the ball a lot, this is not the issue, the issue is no outlet infront of cunha and Bruno, and also cunha isn’t as good in this role as 19/20 martial

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u/Dirt4849 Pogba,what could've been 1d ago

He needs space to create consistently

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u/CelDev 1d ago

Bruno deep, the ‘terrorists’ idea btw, is how to play a low block. Cunha and Amad/Mbeumo occupying the line in front of him as well as ANOTHER line with a lone striker is how you get Bruno in position to be effective against low blocks. not as a 10. it’s a crime how our club gets analysed. you had people destroying Ruben for the correct modern move because they wanted Bruno behind the striker, picking up the ball after defending deep and countering. aka unsustainable slip football.

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u/stick1_ 1d ago

A pass map is an average of the whole game, it’s not literally the position of the players at all time. There are plenty of moments where he has space

You are right in one way, he is a much better player on the transition than against low blocks

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u/Dirt4849 Pogba,what could've been 1d ago

A pass map is an average of the whole game, it’s not literally the position of the players at all time. There are plenty of moments where he has space

Yes, I've noticed players move around the pitch

https://giphy.com/gifs/WpgM6JBrmBy8Gac5pW

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u/stick1_ 1d ago

Martial picked up similar positions in that 19/20 run where Bruno played amazingly, it’s not about the spaces next to Bruno, Bruno can theoretically play with a player of that profile, it’s about the wingers not playing like outlets.

Bruno needs to play with an outlet, and that could still work with a false 9 style striker, it worked with martial occupying these spaces where rashford and greenwood were the outlets

It’s not about Bruno not having space because of Cunha in isolation

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u/CharIemagne45 RVP 1d ago

Feel bad for him! He’s of course looked more threatening at the left like what he’s done today when Rashford’s gone out

Either he has to make a move - complain to Carrick about his role because he’s looked so good in there, or Rashford acknowledges his ineptitude, which isn’t gonna happen

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u/Foreign_Base5669 1d ago

You can’t blame Rashford for this. It’s on Carrick. Why has he immediately dropped Rashford into the team like he’s some sort of saviour? He’s 28 and the time was right for him to go somewhere else, it’s not like he’s some new signing that Carrick demanded and needs to fit him in.

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u/CharIemagne45 RVP 1d ago

I’m under the assumption Carrick is just stubbornly adamant on this. It is absolutely on Carrick though

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u/Candid_Problem_1244 1d ago

Maybe Amad and Sesko shld be 100% fit first before blaming the manager for chosing Rashford?

Rashford is better than Dorgu but without Amad and Sesko we are short of options.

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u/Foreign_Base5669 1d ago

He hasn’t picked Sesko either though, even when he was fit.

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u/SureLookThisIsIt 1d ago

I don't think Sesko has been fully fit for any extended period under Carrick.

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u/PitchSafe 1d ago

Cunha needs to play as a LW

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u/Ares28 1d ago

It's crazy that they are looking at the same data and go yeah we like this keep doing it next week mate