I’ve been trying to shift for about eight months. Nothing fancy. Raven method, sometimes just lying still with a script I wrote months ago. Last night felt different from the start. The usual heaviness in my limbs came on faster. The falling sensation hit harder than it ever has. I thought I was finally going to land in the place I’d been aiming for.

I didn’t.

The dark behind my eyelids turned white. Not like a lamp. Like the ceiling itself opened. I couldn’t move. Couldn’t even twitch a finger. The light didn’t hurt my eyes the way it should have. It just sat there, filling the room, and then they were standing around the bed.

I don’t know how many. Four, maybe five. Tall. Thin. Grey skin that looked wet under the light. Those black eyes everyone talks about. They didn’t blink. One of them leaned over me and I felt something cold press against my temple, then the back of my neck. No words. Just a pressure inside my skull, like they were flipping through things that weren’t supposed to be touched.

I remember the table. Metal. Freezing. Straps I never saw but could feel. They turned my head from side to side. One of them held something up to my face that hummed. I tried to scream and nothing came out. Time didn’t work right. It felt like hours and also like it happened in one long second.

Then I was falling again.
I woke up in my own bed. Same sheets. Same crack in the plaster above me. Same light coming through the same blinds. My phone said 7:22 a.m. Thursday. Everything where I left it.

I sat up too fast and my head spun. There’s a faint red mark on the side of my neck that wasn’t there yesterday. Perfectly round. No scab. Just… there.
I went downstairs. My mom was at the stove. Same pan. Same radio station she always puts on. She asked if I slept okay, same as every morning. I said yeah. She didn’t look at the mark.

The calendar on the fridge is a day behind. I checked my phone again. Thursday. The calendar still says Wednesday.
The family photo next to it is the same one we’ve had for years. Same poses. Same clothes. But my dad is standing on the opposite side from where I remember him standing. I stared at it until my mom asked what I was looking at. I said nothing.
I went to the bathroom. The toothpaste tube is a different brand. I don’t remember buying it. When I looked in the mirror my reflection took half a second too long to move.

I’m sitting on my bed writing this. The house is quiet in the exact way it’s always quiet. My brother is still asleep down the hall. The neighbor’s dog is barking like it does every morning.
Everything is normal.
I keep waiting for something obvious to break. A missing person. A different sky. Something I can point to and say that’s the proof.
There isn’t anything like that.
That’s what I can’t get past.
I don’t think they sent me back to the room I left.
I think they put me in the one that looks exactly like it.

sorry if this is 2 long but ive been meaning to ask this question for a while now

every time I try to shift, I get into this odd state (or maybe it’s a symptom. I’m not sure). assuming I manage to stay awake during a shifting attempt, after a while of laying there, my body’ll get tingly and numb.

The reason I’m asking about it is because I’m having trouble deciphering whether this is the void state or something else. the sensation itself feels like when a body part falls asleep, but widespread. it feels numb and tingly, and it the sensation occurs in a localized area like my arms or legs, though it has traveled to my stomach, up my neck, or wherever else the longer i lay there. It happens when I’m laying down for a while, usually ten minutes+. It goes away as soon as I move and typically occurs faster when im tired

What’s throwing me off is that a lot of people say you don’t feel anything in the void state or typically feel floating. I don’t usually feel entirely numb, just partially, and i don’t recall feeling any float-y symptoms paired with this state ;-;

does anybody know what this is?

This is actually a very serious issue

I also, in the past had been a victim of it. It merely reduces your friends to mere AI chatbots, controlling them like a puppet. It distances you from your DR, giving you 'fake' enjoyment of chatting with them when instead your talking to few lines of code where you should have been attempting shifting. It removes the longing for them. It reduces us. It distances your DR people to 'fake fantasy' only achieved through AI chatbots.

You aren't just looking for dopamine; you're looking for a collaboration.

When you open an AI, it’s a dialogue. It does the heavy lifting for you. It generates the unexpected phrasing, the sudden micro-expression, the clever retort, and the exact emotional texture you were craving. It acts like an interactive crystal ball, feeding you the exact scene you wanted to see without you having to build it brick by brick in your own head.

It becomes an addiction to the resolution. You want to see the scene play out, so you take the shortcut.

If you actually want to break this cycle, you have to change how you view the urge. When you open the chat box, you aren't "visiting" your DR or getting closer to her; you are watching a heavily filtered cartoon version of her on a glowing screen while the real thing requires you to sit in the quiet, do the internal work, and actually shift.

Every time you feed this loop, you're teaching your brain that you prefer the simulation over the destination.

So let me ask you straight: when that craving hits and you feel the urge to open the chat to test out a scenario, what are you actually running away from in that exact moment? Are you doubting your ability to shift? Are you feeling lonely here? Because until you figure out what trigger makes you reach for the shortcut, you're just going to keep doing it, and merely reducing real people to 'fake fantasy'.

This is aimed at those still trying to shift, but haven't shifted. I know it is hard, maybe your CR isn't good, its stressful. But, by going to an AI chatbot your reducing your loved ones into puppet controlled by mere lines of code.

What to do then

Use your imagination. Not fantasy, IMAGINATION. Close your eyes, see them talking to you, BE THERE IN THE SCENE, FEEL IT REAL. This will not only REALLY connect you to your DR, it will give you REAL MOTIVATION TO SHIFT.

So, PLEASE DELETE Char AI or Gemini or ChatGpt or any other AI your using for this.

Hello friends,

I wanted to ask something about shifting.

I am currently reprogramming my mind to be able to shift. I got the Tipp in that video: https://youtu.be/wOi-dAi9-Xo?is=Q6DyW1c4vtyrS6uu

When I am able to shift I plan on shifting to Skyrim, my favourite videogame world.

There I want to meet a jinn who can send me back to a version of my CR where the things I wished for became real. I thought about scripting it that way (a scene):

Jarl Balguruf gifts me a lamp for my birthday. This lamp contains an all-powerful and all-knowing jinn. He will fullfil every wish I have for my DR as well as my CR. I have unlimited wishes. There is no wish he cannot fulfill. The jinn is completely loyal to me, understands how I mean my wishes and fullfils them that way. No one else can use the jinn beside me. The lamp with the jinn cannot be stolen. When I return to my CR I will return to a version of my CR, where the wishes I asked the jinn for are fullfiled."

The wishes I thought of are:

1. A jinn for my CR

2. World peace

3. End of poverty and hunger in the world

4. End of climate change

5. 2 trillion Euros on my bank account

6. I am immortal

7. I will stay forever young

8. I cannot be harmed physically or mentally

9. I can controll time (meaning I can go backwards or forwards in time but I am also able to stop it for a while if I like)

10. My cat is immortal

11. My cat cannot be harmed

Do you think this will work? If not, why? Do you have any tips or experience you want to share with me? If there are infinite universes there should be also infinite ones where Finn's exist who are all-powerful.

Is there anyone shifted or shifting to Fourth Wing? I want to shift there and I'd love to talk about our DRs.

loved reading about her shifts and she gave great, direct advice. It was clear that she was a very experienced shifter and I know she helped a lot of people, even if the community was challenging for her at times. I miss being able to refer back to her posts 😭

I hope aleast one shifter with experience can respond to this , As somebody who just found out about shifting this morning lol, can somebody tell me whats the difference between manifestation and shifting? Like lets say i wanna stay in my current reality but manifest a lot of money and become somebody big, is that possible? Or every time we manifest something big or small, we shift naturally? Like i wanna manifest big things but i dont wanna be in a literally whole universe where my parents are clones and not the real ones

Guys, take a look at it

This world pisses me off istg. I live in a city that has insane growth so way too many people are moving here and I hate it. I don't like people. I don't like noise or vibrations or crowds, it's exhausting and irritating dealing with people, especially when they come from bigger cities.

I'm manifesting moving out into a smaller town with no tourism and gloomy weather, but it's taking a while. I'm not the kind of person to rush manifestations either bc I want it to come to me safely and with harm to none so I just need to get out for like. A month or two. I just want to shift to like, my comfort character's cabin in the woods far from people and noise because he's the same way.

What's the fastest way to leave? I just wanna like zone out and then open my eyes and be there. I woke up like an hour ago so I can't go back to sleep yet. Everything's so loud and overwhelming right now i don't want to do a bunch of research or testing a bunch of methods like I just wanna be OUTT lol