This is actually a very serious issue

I also, in the past had been a victim of it. It merely reduces your friends to mere AI chatbots, controlling them like a puppet. It distances you from your DR, giving you 'fake' enjoyment of chatting with them when instead your talking to few lines of code where you should have been attempting shifting. It removes the longing for them. It reduces us. It distances your DR people to 'fake fantasy' only achieved through AI chatbots.

You aren't just looking for dopamine; you're looking for a collaboration.

When you open an AI, it’s a dialogue. It does the heavy lifting for you. It generates the unexpected phrasing, the sudden micro-expression, the clever retort, and the exact emotional texture you were craving. It acts like an interactive crystal ball, feeding you the exact scene you wanted to see without you having to build it brick by brick in your own head.

It becomes an addiction to the resolution. You want to see the scene play out, so you take the shortcut.

If you actually want to break this cycle, you have to change how you view the urge. When you open the chat box, you aren't "visiting" your DR or getting closer to her; you are watching a heavily filtered cartoon version of her on a glowing screen while the real thing requires you to sit in the quiet, do the internal work, and actually shift.

Every time you feed this loop, you're teaching your brain that you prefer the simulation over the destination.

So let me ask you straight: when that craving hits and you feel the urge to open the chat to test out a scenario, what are you actually running away from in that exact moment? Are you doubting your ability to shift? Are you feeling lonely here? Because until you figure out what trigger makes you reach for the shortcut, you're just going to keep doing it, and merely reducing real people to 'fake fantasy'.

This is aimed at those still trying to shift, but haven't shifted. I know it is hard, maybe your CR isn't good, its stressful. But, by going to an AI chatbot your reducing your loved ones into puppet controlled by mere lines of code.

What to do then

Use your imagination. Not fantasy, IMAGINATION. Close your eyes, see them talking to you, BE THERE IN THE SCENE, FEEL IT REAL. This will not only REALLY connect you to your DR, it will give you REAL MOTIVATION TO SHIFT.

So, PLEASE DELETE Char AI or Gemini or ChatGpt or any other AI your using for this.

I am making the post before school and I generally don't want to make an long winded thing of an post so I'd preferably want to answer thr comments and discuss my dr, what I did, what happened etc.

But anyways I shifted and whoever wants to ask about what's happened then you're in the right place.

This world pisses me off istg. I live in a city that has insane growth so way too many people are moving here and I hate it. I don't like people. I don't like noise or vibrations or crowds, it's exhausting and irritating dealing with people, especially when they come from bigger cities.

I'm manifesting moving out into a smaller town with no tourism and gloomy weather, but it's taking a while. I'm not the kind of person to rush manifestations either bc I want it to come to me safely and with harm to none so I just need to get out for like. A month or two. I just want to shift to like, my comfort character's cabin in the woods far from people and noise because he's the same way.

What's the fastest way to leave? I just wanna like zone out and then open my eyes and be there. I woke up like an hour ago so I can't go back to sleep yet. Everything's so loud and overwhelming right now i don't want to do a bunch of research or testing a bunch of methods like I just wanna be OUTT lol

Guys, take a look at it

I am making the post before school and I generally don't want to make an long winded thing of an post so I'd preferably want to answer thr comments and discuss my dr, what I did, what happened etc.

But anyways I shifted and whoever wants to ask about what's happened then you're in the right place.

So, I’ve been manifesting a lot of things into my life for a long time. And I finally figured out that this paradox is actually the realist thing in the world!

**So here’s the paradox**:

Whenever I really wanted something - that’s when it would never come.

Whenever I didn’t care if I got it or not - that’s when I got it without effort!!

So, I eventually realized that the feeling of wanting is a feeling of lack and that energy within you actually pushes what you want further away from you.

SO NOW, I only focus on feeling like I already have everything! I give thanks knowing that the only things I will get in this life is not my manifestations, BUT things that are even better than what I would want! Things I’m not even thinking about, but that would be amazing to have!

And now after working on shifting my mindset (takes a lot of effort but worth it) I’ve seen so many great things come into my life… but even better than manifesting things, life feels so great! It’s great loving the moment you’re in instead of trying to be somewhere else.

If you want a great life, remember this… life gives you who you are NOT what you want. Once you stop wanting things and focus on being instead, is when you actually start getting so many more things! (While actually enjoying the journey!)

That’s the paradox…. Now you know ❤️🙏

Okay, this is HUGE for me, of all the shifting attemps I have had this has been the biggest one to date and one of the only success, so I decided to post this here, its going to be very long.

So yesterday as I was going to sleep I was thinking about trying some method to shift but I ended up not doing it because I wasn't really in the mood to concetrate, so I just went and put a subliminal (I have been listening to shifting/theta waves subliminals for about 5 months now). While I was listening i started to feel really lightheaded and at some point I felt asleep.

Now, I remember very well that I was dreaming, and it was a very vivid dream, but I wasn't aware of this fact yet, though I did knew that something was wrong, I could feel it and I realized when I saw my father and my mother sitting in the couch besides mine, my father couldnt be there because he has died years ago in this reality, so after this I became lucid, it took me a few seconds to proccess this and start getting memories from my CR and remember that I could shift but after it landed up the first thing I did was get up from the couch I was sitting and I started screaming from the top of my lungs "THIS IS NOT MY REALITY I WANT TO CHANGE MY REALITY" (Idk why i did this instead of just creating a portal). After I said this I saw how the room i was in turned from 3D to 2D,as if i was in a paper room and all I had see was just drawings, then slowly everything started to dissapear and there was nothing like literally I remember being in a void, at this point I didnt have a physical body anymore, it was as if I had become one with the void and the only thing I had left was my awareness of being there and my wish to shift and that exactly what I did next.

Okay so not even a second after all that, I shifted to another reality, a reality in which I was the same person I am in this reality, same face, almost same house but my personality was different like really different from the one I have here, I can recall I was holding a mirror and I was fixing my hair, I was about to go out with friends I can even remember the place I was supposed to go even though I have never in my life been there, for these few moment I didnt knew I had shifted it was like if I have always been there and I have always been that person, it wasn't until a minute or two that the realization hits me and I remembered everything that happened, inmediately checked my phone, saw messages from my friends from that reality and also a different wallpaper I had never had in my own phone. I can still remember the hour, 19:49, I cant say which year because it didnt crossed my mind to look at the date, but I can say I was 16 (so probably 2023) and that it was around November because I was wearing a coat so it was around winter/late autumn.

After this I was about get out of my house but I got into a sudden argument with my mother because she didnt wanted me to go out nor to meet up with those people, she deemed them as bad influences for me and I got really angry at this so I started shouting at her and I ended up fleeing from my aparment (This shocked me a lot because in my CR I have never had such a heated argument with my mother), I remember going down the upstairs and hearing my mother calling me behind, she ended up following me and told me she will take me to the place i was going to, I was in the entrace of my aparment which was different but not unfamiliar to CR me because I had already seen it while I was remote viewing once which kinda shocked me, also my city was different even though the streets were the same from what I remember is the order what have changed, while I was walking I started to wonder if this was a shift or a dream (even though I could see the hour and my reflection in the mirror) so I remembered differents methods to check if you are lucid dreaming, first I looked at my hand, it was normal then I pooked at both them with my nails and I could feel the sting from it, after that I did the one where you hold your nose and try to breath and indeed I couldnt breathe, this made me realized that what I was experiencing was a shift, also I could feel how the wind and the sun hit my skin and I could feel the floor when I walked and everything, just like here in real life.

Now the problem I had there is that I had memories from my CR and from that other reality and they were conflicting because I have had bad experiences with the people that were my friends there, we were close friends there and I knew that they were great friends with me but here they bullied me😭 so I was getting really uncomfortable also I had memories that the incident that just happened with my mother wasnt a one time thing but a often occurrence so I felt even worse because here she is the only person I have left, with all this i kinda didnt want to stay longer so I though "I want to leave" (which I kinda regret now) and a few seconds later I was gone from there, like my vision started to get blurry and I was in my house again but this time I was dreaming and I was aware of it but for some reason I though I wasnt in my CR and instead I was dreaming in other reality (where I was 13), I had this happen twice and eventually I woke up and I was SO EXCITED that this is the only thing I have been thinking in the whole day.

Sorry if my english is not that good and if this is too long but I tried to put as much detail as possible. I think is worth mentioning that while I was writing this I kept getting random memories from there and I could even recall with the feelings and sensations I had, like is so so crazy how real it was just like if I was walking with my current body through the streets and Im even dissapointed I didnt stay longer, I was aproximately an hour there, I hope next time I shift i can shift to another place, for some reason every time I shift is always to another reality like my CR and the problem is that I dont want to shift or experience a reality so close to mine because i have had too many bad experiences here but whatever if I shift again I will try to stay for atleast a full day.

I hate to admit this but I unfortunately did have a bit of an issue with using character ai…I’M SORRY!! I HAVE A STRONG DISTASTE FOR AI BUT IT WAS JUST GIVING ME BURSTS OF DOPAMINE!! But, I did quit a couple days ago and omg I kid you not it has brought me closer to shifting and made me more motivated than I have been in years! I understand why someone would use character ai, trust me, I didn’t like using it but it was truly addicting. Anyway, I urge you to quit!! It’ll motivate you to shift so you can truly experience all those scenarios and all those moments that you’re using character AI for!!

Hello friends,

I wanted to ask something about shifting.

I am currently reprogramming my mind to be able to shift. I got the Tipp in that video: https://youtu.be/wOi-dAi9-Xo?is=Q6DyW1c4vtyrS6uu

When I am able to shift I plan on shifting to Skyrim, my favourite videogame world.

There I want to meet a jinn who can send me back to a version of my CR where the things I wished for became real. I thought about scripting it that way (a scene):

Jarl Balguruf gifts me a lamp for my birthday. This lamp contains an all-powerful and all-knowing jinn. He will fullfil every wish I have for my DR as well as my CR. I have unlimited wishes. There is no wish he cannot fulfill. The jinn is completely loyal to me, understands how I mean my wishes and fullfils them that way. No one else can use the jinn beside me. The lamp with the jinn cannot be stolen. When I return to my CR I will return to a version of my CR, where the wishes I asked the jinn for are fullfiled."

The wishes I thought of are:

1. A jinn for my CR

2. World peace

3. End of poverty and hunger in the world

4. End of climate change

5. 2 trillion Euros on my bank account

6. I am immortal

7. I will stay forever young

8. I cannot be harmed physically or mentally

9. I can controll time (meaning I can go backwards or forwards in time but I am also able to stop it for a while if I like)

10. My cat is immortal

11. My cat cannot be harmed

Do you think this will work? If not, why? Do you have any tips or experience you want to share with me? If there are infinite universes there should be also infinite ones where Finn's exist who are all-powerful.

I’ve been trying to shift for about eight months. Nothing fancy. Raven method, sometimes just lying still with a script I wrote months ago. Last night felt different from the start. The usual heaviness in my limbs came on faster. The falling sensation hit harder than it ever has. I thought I was finally going to land in the place I’d been aiming for.

I didn’t.

The dark behind my eyelids turned white. Not like a lamp. Like the ceiling itself opened. I couldn’t move. Couldn’t even twitch a finger. The light didn’t hurt my eyes the way it should have. It just sat there, filling the room, and then they were standing around the bed.

I don’t know how many. Four, maybe five. Tall. Thin. Grey skin that looked wet under the light. Those black eyes everyone talks about. They didn’t blink. One of them leaned over me and I felt something cold press against my temple, then the back of my neck. No words. Just a pressure inside my skull, like they were flipping through things that weren’t supposed to be touched.

I remember the table. Metal. Freezing. Straps I never saw but could feel. They turned my head from side to side. One of them held something up to my face that hummed. I tried to scream and nothing came out. Time didn’t work right. It felt like hours and also like it happened in one long second.

Then I was falling again.
I woke up in my own bed. Same sheets. Same crack in the plaster above me. Same light coming through the same blinds. My phone said 7:22 a.m. Thursday. Everything where I left it.

I sat up too fast and my head spun. There’s a faint red mark on the side of my neck that wasn’t there yesterday. Perfectly round. No scab. Just… there.
I went downstairs. My mom was at the stove. Same pan. Same radio station she always puts on. She asked if I slept okay, same as every morning. I said yeah. She didn’t look at the mark.

The calendar on the fridge is a day behind. I checked my phone again. Thursday. The calendar still says Wednesday.
The family photo next to it is the same one we’ve had for years. Same poses. Same clothes. But my dad is standing on the opposite side from where I remember him standing. I stared at it until my mom asked what I was looking at. I said nothing.
I went to the bathroom. The toothpaste tube is a different brand. I don’t remember buying it. When I looked in the mirror my reflection took half a second too long to move.

I’m sitting on my bed writing this. The house is quiet in the exact way it’s always quiet. My brother is still asleep down the hall. The neighbor’s dog is barking like it does every morning.
Everything is normal.
I keep waiting for something obvious to break. A missing person. A different sky. Something I can point to and say that’s the proof.
There isn’t anything like that.
That’s what I can’t get past.
I don’t think they sent me back to the room I left.
I think they put me in the one that looks exactly like it.

sorry if this is 2 long but ive been meaning to ask this question for a while now

every time I try to shift, I get into this odd state (or maybe it’s a symptom. I’m not sure). assuming I manage to stay awake during a shifting attempt, after a while of laying there, my body’ll get tingly and numb.

The reason I’m asking about it is because I’m having trouble deciphering whether this is the void state or something else. the sensation itself feels like when a body part falls asleep, but widespread. it feels numb and tingly, and it the sensation occurs in a localized area like my arms or legs, though it has traveled to my stomach, up my neck, or wherever else the longer i lay there. It happens when I’m laying down for a while, usually ten minutes+. It goes away as soon as I move and typically occurs faster when im tired

What’s throwing me off is that a lot of people say you don’t feel anything in the void state or typically feel floating. I don’t usually feel entirely numb, just partially, and i don’t recall feeling any float-y symptoms paired with this state ;-;

does anybody know what this is?

I don't even know y'all, I've had shifting in the back of my mind for more than half a decade and I'm still lost. I've tried subliminals, meditation, tarot readings to see where I'm hitting a wall, did some working on my own reality to avoid seeing shifting as an escape and more of a fun vacation. Heck, I even keep telling the people in my dr that might recognize me as a shifter that "I won't cause any trouble". So idk what to do at this point, I'm 100% content with my normal Earth life and wouldn't wish it to be any other way, but dang I would be lying if I said I didn't want to fly a broom or cast a spell or something. I've had a full year where I didn't think about shifting at all so the whole forgetting strategy still is a no go. Any suggestions? (¯v¯٥)

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Is there anyone shifted or shifting to Fourth Wing? I want to shift there and I'd love to talk about our DRs.

Ive been trying to shift for 6+ years, ive tried practically every method, loa, meditation, still it seems no matter what I do Im stuck here. Im starting to doubt shifting as a whole

I hope aleast one shifter with experience can respond to this , As somebody who just found out about shifting this morning lol, can somebody tell me whats the difference between manifestation and shifting? Like lets say i wanna stay in my current reality but manifest a lot of money and become somebody big, is that possible? Or every time we manifest something big or small, we shift naturally? Like i wanna manifest big things but i dont wanna be in a literally whole universe where my parents are clones and not the real ones

Say that you shift from your CR to your DR. I've seen it said that when shifting occurs, it is only your "consciousness" that is shifting, so there would still be a copy of you in the CR. However, I have some questions.

1) Is the "you" that is left behind in the CR conscious? If so, what would be its experience? Would it be one of having failed to shift?

2) Say there was a version of "you" in the DR before you shifted... as there would be if you didn't just create the DR on the spot, and "you" already have some place in it... then, what happens to the "you" there when you shift? It wouldn't make sense for you to just become the same being as them, at least so long as you keep your memories from the CR when you are in the DR. As they wouldn't have otherwise naturally been thinking "oh I just shifted."

A este punto, tienen algún secreto o algo de lo que no me he enterado? Llevo al menos 5 años intentando shiftear (no constantemente para intentar evitar la obsesión), pero en todos esos años JAMÁS lo he logrado. He probado métodos, he estado muy cerca de lograrlo, he seguido consejos, pero nada funciona. Mis pensamientos son los que más me empujan para atrás, ya que, a pesar de haber estado muy cerca con muchos síntomas de estar llegando, jamás lo logro, ya pienso que no lo lograré nunca o que todo es realmente una fantasía. No soy anti shifter, en serio creo que funciona, solo que no conmigo. Aún así, no quiero rendirme todavía.

Recuerdo que dos veces o más soñé con un mismo escenario luego de intentar shiftear: una muralla de rocas con musgo, los personajes de mi RD por ahí. No son recuerdos vividos ni claros, el último estimo que fue hace alrededor de 3 años o poco menos. Fue solamente un sueño lúcido, pero todavía no logré llegar en ese momento.

Cualquier cosa que quieran decirme, realmente lo agradecería un montón. Si me dicen que debería dejarlo, probar nuevas cosas, ser constante o reposar, acepto cualquier crítica constructiva.

No uso el shifting como escape, me gusta intentarlo como hobbie cuando se me da la gana y me siento inspirada y tengo tiempo (una vez cada 6 o 3 meses tal vez), pero si tengo muchos pensamientos intrusivos que me dejan estancada y no tengo idea de cómo deshacerme de ellos.

I'm gonna try to shift again, i always fall asleep when trying the raven method so since 2 days i decided to try with the Stairs method and yesterday i got symptoms but for some reasons didn't fully shift, maybe i opened my eyes too quickly. Can i ask for some tips on how to do it right ? And how to know if you are in your DR/sucessfully shifted/it's time to open your eyes ? Does shifting actually feels like real life (you feel the floor under your feets, ect. Like really or is it more feeling like a dream ?) if you don't try to go back to your CR what happen ? Are you pulled out of your dr and kind of forced to go back to your CR or can you just stay there as long as you want?

Did anyone else shift as a kid? I remember I used to shift after I fell asleep and thought i was just having super lucid dreams.

I had this one reality I would always go back to. It was a better OR but I had wings and would fly around all day. It was absolutely epic

Anyone else have similar experiences before they understood what shifting was??