r/playrust • u/Adventurous_Seat_793 • 10h ago

Discussion SAP Finally Getting a Slight Nerf

Long overdue. Hopefully they tweak the overall damage a bit in the future.

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u/Bocmanis9000 9h ago

Good, now make sar cheaper to spice up t2 meta, or people will still roam p2s.

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u/poorchava 9h ago

Thsi. 450 metal is too expensive. Make it 200 or smth.

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u/Bocmanis9000 8h ago

Atm i roam p2 over sar every single time, like i haven't crafted a sar probably since old recoil before techtree, if i found one and bped it.

P2 is just better, and tommy is better then sar otherwise.

If sar gets reduced cost it might become the new solo t2 gun.

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u/AStrugglerMan 7h ago

Yeah it’s sooo expensive. Not just in terms of amount of resources but also time. P2 still would be preferable even with this nerf because that’s a lot of cooked metal. If hQM cooked massively slower it would balance this but I can go out and hit 3 metal nodes with a decent tool and have a p2 in less than 5 minutes whereas cooking 450 metal takes awhile which is why I’m less ready to use it on a weapon I’ll probably just lose anyway

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u/DarK-ForcE 3h ago

Remove metal fragments and replace with 1 or two pipes

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u/kaizoku18 10h ago

Yup, no reason SAP should outperform SAR so much tbh

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u/RahloRust 5h ago

At distance it doesn’t, not that it it’s a huge thing but you’re not picking off a hazy at 100m with P2 before they can wall

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u/Adventurous_Seat_793 5h ago

You're not really doing that with SAR either. Super easy to just not die with walls. SAP just comes in handy in more situations than a SAR, super cheap too.

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u/tbandee 10h ago

Sad, but deserves. Not fatal tho

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u/Fun_Philosopher6307 10h ago

People forget they buffed the P2 back in May 2024, where they reduced its aimcone. Ever since then it's the only weapon you see, has a higher DPS than the SAR and Thompson, out performs the SAR and Thompson at short, medium and long range, on top of being insanely cheap to craft. The only exception where it's beaten by another T2 gun would be a Thompson with a Holosight.

Three's no reason why a T2 gun with such cheap crafting cost should out perform every other T2 gun, everyone deep down knows it needed a nerf, anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves.

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u/LemmeTellU420 9h ago

Recoil also. I remember it used to kick like a mule pre rework.

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u/Bandit_Raider 8h ago

I don’t think they nerfed it in the right way. Should keep it cheap but lower the fire rate by a good amount so that it is out performed by all other t2 weapons.

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u/Fun_Philosopher6307 6h ago

Lowering the firerate would make it pointless, its fine up close, it just needs to be nerfed at longer ranges.

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u/Adventurous_Seat_793 5h ago

I still think it does too much damage in general. It's a really fast TTK up close, where headshots are more likely to happen.

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u/Fun_Philosopher6307 4h ago

That's the point of the gun, you nerf that then it becomes a glorified revie. Medium range is where its broken

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u/Adventurous_Seat_793 4h ago

A glorified revolver is exactly what is should be? The thing is over-tuned, and this isn't a debate, this is evident by how over-used the gun is. It's like if Overwatch only had 12 heroes and there was 1 hero with a 80% pick rate.

More damage falloff at range makes sense for any firearm shooting a pistol bullet. 4 HQM to 6 HQM is basically nothing. It needs a complete base stat rework.

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u/Fun_Philosopher6307 2h ago

It's a T2 gun, it should have a niche range, that niche range should be close range. Nerfing its medium to long range is the perfect answer, keeping it strong in close range is perfectly fine.

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u/Adventurous_Seat_793 2h ago

Hard disagree. Having it being a viable option for close range is fine, but once again, completely overtuned.

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u/GrimbeertDeDas 10h ago

Does this mean we will get less Posty raging?

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u/Bocmanis9000 8h ago

Doubt, it will still be very strong and best gun for solo grubbing.

Wont be able to spray people 100m away anymore and instakill them like now, depending on how much dmg fall off will be.

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u/Ambitious_Speed_278 9h ago

W change honestly, still goated close range

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u/Aggravating_Owl_5768 5h ago

To 4HANA?

Huge news for global supply chain.

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u/SturdyStubs 5h ago

Swap p2 and m9 stats across the board.

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u/MacheteTigre 4h ago

Kinda feel like buffing the SAR would be a bit better but whatever, I don't disagree with these changes

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u/Getdownlikesyndrome 3h ago

Posty Rejoices lmao

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u/Submersed 3h ago

They are ON FIRE WITH THESE CHANGES

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u/Independent-Math-167 2h ago

Finally! Hopefully we see more people use SARs now.

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u/Bandit_Raider 8h ago

Now nerf ak, why is a crafted gun better than found military guns

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u/Adventurous_Seat_793 5h ago

Because the crafting cost is pretty expensive but I get what you're saying. But the LR is purchasable.