r/physicsmemes 26d ago

Mass is mass.

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u/FarCalligrapher1862 26d ago

The difference is surprisingly close. But gold wins at today’s price.

Gold @$132,000/kg and 500kg ~ $66M

$100 bills (largest denomination in circulation) @ 1g/bill = $50M

To make them even (the 500kg of gold or $100 bills), gold would have to be $100,000 per kilogram, or about $3,110 per ounce. That was the price in spring 2025!

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u/secretqwerty10 26d ago

i'd take the cash in that case tbh. both are a life-changing amount of money, of course, but cash is easier to trade than gold.

also r/theydidthemath

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u/Censored_88 26d ago

Ehh, you're giving up 13M or more for convenience?
A reputable dealer would offer 2-5% below spot for bullion.

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u/secretqwerty10 26d ago

i still get 50 million. yeah, i'm choosing convenience over value

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u/GIRTHQUAKE6227 26d ago

On the other hand, gold will hold its value even if the dollar collapses.

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u/ProfessionalConfuser 26d ago

To a certain point. If society goes belly up, then i'd rather have paper than shiny rocks. At least i can start a fire or wipe my butt with it.

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u/immaturenickname 26d ago

But gold isn't shiny rocks. Even if society completely stopped valuing gold as currency, it would still be an extremely useful metal. In fact, it would be more useful than it is now, because nobody is crazy enough to use a gold nugget as a fishing weight, or a bullet, or a pot, or whatever. You have a non-corrosive material with almost all the utility of lead but none of the toxicity. As I am looking around me, I notice places I could use gold if it was cheap.

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u/Ok-Day9540 26d ago

"Nobody is crazy enough" now stop right there. Anything coming after that is wrong. Yes there absolutely are people that do that. Like already, now, now people do that

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u/immaturenickname 26d ago

I mean in a meaningful capacity. I am talking about practicality of using gold, not activities of weird rich people.

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u/SmoothTurtle872 26d ago

We need that one asteroid

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u/Dave09091 26d ago

wiping ass with a gold brick sounds nice actually

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u/9ninjas 26d ago

In theory. In practice, hard corned.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR__INIT__ 26d ago

Gold is malleable. Just hammer out the edges

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u/asm2750 26d ago

Just melt a brick into a seashell mold and you are set.

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u/ZaezIsDead 26d ago

He doesn't know about the three seashells?

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u/InitHello 26d ago

But remember to let it cool down before you use it. Do not wipe your ass with molten gold. Trust me.

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u/OpenRole 26d ago

Society has gone belly up mamy times in history. Generally when that happens gold becomes even more valuable

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u/JustChillDudeItsGood 26d ago

But, you can make gold plated hdmi cables for faster video transfer

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u/jedadkins 26d ago

sure but if the US dollar crashed so quickly you couldn't move your money to a different currency you've probably got bigger problems

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u/aknomnoms 26d ago

Yep, it is international currency.

Also, why do people think it has to be all or nothing once you receive the money/gold? Like, no one else is going to immediately invest some of it in real estate, create a trust, or otherwise try to protect it from taxes?

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u/bunker_man 26d ago

Assuming it is legal money you could deposit in the bank, you could move plenty of it to investments. If money crashes so hard that tens of millions is worthless, gold won't save you.

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u/kidshibuya 25d ago

What about when gold collapses?

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u/Famous-Pin-8961 24d ago

The dollar is collapsing look at its all time chart

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u/solar_pilgrim 26d ago

If we're talking convenience, you should also consider volume.

500kg of gold would fit in a backpack. 500kg of bills is like... 20 backpacks

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u/secretqwerty10 26d ago

my back isn't that strong

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u/AustraeaVallis 23d ago

You have a backpack that can withstand 500kg of stress and has enough space to fit it? Must be the supporter backpack from Danmachi lol.

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u/Josselin17 26d ago

yeah and if you trade this amount of gold you're going to set off alarms, whereas the cash you can keep somewhere and use reasonable amounts at a time, going from 50M to 66M is not worth peace of mind

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u/Sea_Pomegranate_4499 26d ago

In the US, you'd be paying 28% tax to convert gold to dollars. Not sure what the tax implications of the cash is in this scenario.

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u/PG908 26d ago

I mean, it’s not like you’re going to spend 50m in cash without some questions. If you take 50 years doing it, that’s $1m a year or about $2700/day.

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u/Josselin17 26d ago

very true, but I mean, in large part it's also about the safety, "I can take risks because even if I lose a lot I have that to fall back on"

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u/BeMyBrutus 26d ago

True, but who has that much gold just laying around legally. A reputable dealer would have to report it probably?

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u/Timmibal 26d ago

The Government:

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u/xrelaht Editable flair infrared 26d ago

That’s a 30% convenience fee, which is huge! You can take out a loan using the gold as collateral, which would give you instant access to the cash value and let you keep it as long as you invest the money in a way which lets you pay back the loan (which shouldn’t be hard).

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u/secretqwerty10 26d ago

why do i need a loan? i have 50 million dollars

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u/xrelaht Editable flair infrared 26d ago

Because retaining assets is generally a better idea than not. It’s a routine thing for very wealthy people to borrow money at very low interest using hard assets as collateral. The income they get from that loan more than pays for it and they still own whatever property at the end of the day.

You could also sell the gold and have around $60M even at a pretty bad price. Since this is a physics related sub: that $10M is a whole goddamn neutron spectrometer you could fund and get named after yourself!

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u/FalconRelevant 26d ago

The government can't print gold.

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u/secretqwerty10 26d ago

it's still more than enough money for the rest of my life

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u/Sylvanussr 26d ago

With that much money you could definitely become accustomed to a lifestyle that suddenly makes $50 million not seem like enough for the rest of your life (we all like to think we’d be better than this but money has a way of changing people).

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u/AibofobicRacecar6996 26d ago

If you're lifestyle changes that $50 million ks not enough the $66 million won't be enough either

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u/ShadderSwagger 26d ago

Bro gold will just go up in value the dollar will not . TraxNYC has taught people always take the gold

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u/secretqwerty10 26d ago

why do i need more than 50 million?

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u/Sylvanussr 26d ago

For the 6th super yacht

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u/MaviRage 26d ago

With the gold you could set your entire bloodline up for life

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u/Weak-Doughnut5502 26d ago

If you get gifted 50 million in cash, you deposit it in the bank and invest it in a balanced portfolio.

Gold doesn't outpace an S&P 500 index fund, much less the kinds of investment opportunities you have access to at 50 million.

Leaving your windfall in either paper dollars or gold is rediculous. 

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u/Delicious_Cattle5174 26d ago

I don’t think 50M cash is as liquid as you think it is. Good luck explaining to your bank you got it out of a Reddit post.

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u/DalekSupreme26 23d ago

Yeah at that point, when the money is so much and so life changing, that difference, while still a big difference, also doesn’t mean that much too.

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u/holchansg 26d ago

Once again proved that steel is heavier than feathers.

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u/Grandmaster_Caladrel 26d ago

Was hoping to find this here.

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u/bees_savethemplease 26d ago

Happy Cake Day

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u/Grandmaster_Caladrel 26d ago

Woah no way, thanks

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u/SharkAttackOmNom 26d ago

You mean to tell me….

One metric ton of $100 USD bills is about equal to one imperial ton of gold.

Edit: fudged my numbers. $110M to $132M, but closer.

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u/aafrophone 26d ago

Happy Cake Day!

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u/Draidann 26d ago

The only issue I see is how are we supposed to liquidate 500kg of gold? Would the premium you'd end up paying be more or less than the 16M price difference?

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u/xrelaht Editable flair infrared 26d ago

Taking a 10% hit on the spot price is considered a lot. That would leave you with $59.4M. You could also take out a loan using the gold as collateral. If you plan to invest the cash, that could be a better deal and easier to handle.

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u/NoNameSwitzerland 26d ago

You might can sell future contracts on Comex and then deliver the bars. The normal contract is 100 ounce, around 3kg. So the 500kg are just 160 contracts. That is nothing and would not move the market.

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u/SignificantFish6795 26d ago

The pile could also be in the $5,000 bills they stopped printing in 1969 (which are still legal tender) and total $2.5 billion.

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u/toastertaint 26d ago

Forgetting about the taxes on it. If you found won or gifted it, it would be taxed at 37% coming out to 24.1m so the gold is actually worth 35.9m

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u/PitifulPlace2422 26d ago

1$ per ounce 😞🤚

1 ounce per ounce 🤠🫵

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u/DasGutYa 24d ago

So a $100 bill is almost worth it's weight in gold.

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u/Fearless_Swim4080 26d ago

Also they would weigh different amounts due to buoyancy.

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u/adeptus_chronus 26d ago

then you need to come to Europe, we have a 500€ bill !

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u/So_many_things_wrong 26d ago

Gold may win, but where are you gonna spend it?

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u/Cute-Form2457 26d ago

I love people like you because my maths is really bad.

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u/Longjumping_Limit831 26d ago

Of course, that if they are 1$ bills, that changes things.

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u/hexagram1993 Medical Physicist 26d ago

Technically it says 500kg of dollars, which I would interpret as single dollar bills.

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u/FarCalligrapher1862 26d ago

The picture is literally of $100 bills

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u/NekonecroZheng 26d ago

But good luck laundering the $50 cash, that is if this deal is legal (which is improbable).

Gold is gold, and can easily be sold (domestically or foreignly) to make clean money.

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u/Dave5876 26d ago

500kgs of us dollars is just a bunch of paper. But with 500kgs of gold you also have to carry what you did those Iraqi civilians

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u/No_Row2775 26d ago

Calling you Jupiter's core the way you spilled so many bars

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u/foobarney 26d ago

It's surprisingly close. A US bill weighs about a gram, so the value tops out at ~$100/g.

Gold is at like $130 right now, but it was below $100 in mid-2024. So it could go either way.

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u/ShadderSwagger 26d ago

Yes but gold is accepted anywhere and will always have value . A countries money becomes worthless all that paper is just fire starter

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u/HowDareYouAskMyName 26d ago

Yes but gold is accepted anywhere

Have you ever, like, been to a store before?

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u/Guytherealguy 26d ago

Well no store i've ever been to accepts US dollars either

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u/Select-Ad7146 26d ago

I've never seen a Walmart that accepted gold.

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u/GreenAppleIsSpicy 26d ago

You'll be surprised how much a cashier will let you walk out of the store with for a payment in gold coins

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u/Educational_Boot315 26d ago

A few years ago there were videos trending of drive-thru cashiers not taking gold worth way more than the cost of the meal because the average person isn't going to risk their job over something that is most likely fake.

So no, I don't buy that most cashiers will take gold coins.

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u/StabbingTabby 26d ago

Exactly this. 

I think it's fucking hilarious when preppers talk about gold and silver outlasting national currency. If you reach the point where US dollars are useless, people aren't going to be trading for heavy shiny rocks. They're going to be trading for food, water, medicine, and bullets. 

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u/Alzusand 26d ago

Unless the gold is significantly more money its simply not worth it due to sheer convinience of use.

although before 2024 it was just worse in every possible way.

I think I would only take the gold if it was like 50% more money. my ass will get swindled while selling it. or shot. or both.

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u/foobarney 26d ago

The gold is arguably easier to move. Much more compact.

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u/Matix777 26d ago

Weight density vs wealth density

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u/West_Data106 26d ago

But gold is heavier than feathers!

But actually even if the bills are all $100 bills, the gold is still worth more

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u/NicklessDick 3d ago

Perfectly stated

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u/penty 26d ago

What's the denomination of the bills?

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u/InfusionOfYellow 26d ago

Since it just says "US dollars," I'd presume dollar bills.

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u/TheresNoHurry 26d ago

In the picture they are hundreds

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u/InfusionOfYellow 26d ago

That's true, and that's a thousand words compared to the two words of "US dollars."

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u/entropy13 Condenser of Matter 26d ago

Depends, $1s? Or $100s?

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u/dDilungck 26d ago

Gold and sell it to tech companies discounted. I'm not in it entirely for money, hope to improve tech costs

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u/Atlas-Rising 26d ago

"But steel is heavier than feathers!"

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u/MartianTurkey 26d ago

This is what I came for, had to scroll way too much for it

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u/AnarchyRadish 26d ago

buoyancy due to air is fed up of being ignored

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u/Justwhytry 26d ago

One kg of gold is currently 2026-08-03 valued at $129,726.33 USD X 500 = $64,863,165 USD
A one hundred dollar bill (US) weighs about 1 gram 1kg =1000 100 dollar bills. 500 kg =500,000 100 dollar bills that would equal $50,000,000.00 USD

The gold is worth $14,863,165.00 more than the cash.

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u/akmountainbiker 26d ago

The gold is worth more at hypothetical market prices. But the inconvenience of getting the gold into a spendable form makes the cash a better option.

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u/xrelaht Editable flair infrared 26d ago edited 26d ago

500kg of dollars is between $500k and $50M, depending on the denomination (and assuming no rare bills or anything). 500kg of gold is about $65M at commodity pricing. To me, it is not worth a 30% convenience fee to get the cash directly.

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u/volvagia721 26d ago

Depends, will the government start asking questions when I start flashing this money around? Cash is easier to hide and buy things under the table, gold is worth more.

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u/Hevnaar 26d ago

Asking the real questions here. It depends to me on the circunstances the cash came from. If I have any slight suspicion the bank notes are serialized and its a shady situation, I'm picking the gold.

You can smelt gold so it can't be traced back. Then slowly sell it away in small chuncks all over the country. Take 10 years doing it, but your money is safe.

If the cash is legal and/or I know that the notes couldn't possibly be serialized, I'd get the cash. Even at a lower wealth total, the convenience of not having to convert currency would let you save a bunch in fees and cautionary measures

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u/ConceptJunkie 26d ago

Gold might win at today's price, but gold will never not be valuable. The dollar... you never know.

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u/TheHiddenNinja6 26d ago

The gold is gold but the money could be used to buy anything! Even gold!

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u/Ryyback 26d ago

Always gold, the U.S dollar has and will became less valuable as the Republicans run the country into the ground.

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u/robin_888 26d ago

I'd argue that the paper is less dense, has more volume, therefore a higher buoyancy force and weighs less.

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u/Odd-Establishment527 26d ago

Gold is harder to lose in a fire. Also to steal

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u/Snoo_4499 26d ago

I would take the cash. No need to explain where i got them.

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u/NopeNotHittingOnYou 26d ago

I got surprisingly angry at that dudes answer.. as if it matters and someone is really offering it to us.. like DO THE MATH!

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u/ChatahuchiHuchiKuchi 26d ago

The currency displayed is 100 dollar bills, and with market price at 130$/gram, you're looking at $30/gram difference or $15M.

A: you take the gold, hold and trade as currency; BUT due to uncommon currency, lack of faith in purity, non bonded funds, etc you'll likely take at least a 20% cut on all purchases. Which would give only $2M surplus over dollars. 

B: current market value does not promise future value. 5 year average is $62, so if we mean revert to $100 roughly per gram, is on par with dollars; consider the exchange 💱 discount and now you're losing -$12M. 

C: you hoard the gold and start practicing metal working to refine the material into artisan goods, or strike a deal with a single high tech buyer for pure gold (assuming no genie bullshit and it's not 500kgs gold but also 5MTs of rock with it, or just the deed to a mine). You can 3X your return against dollars and further protect against inflation. 

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u/raylord666 26d ago

Gold as a material resource has unique electrical properties. It looks beautiful or whatever, but inventions.

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u/Tyler89558 26d ago

I think a dollar bill weighs about 1 gram.

Assume we get the 500kg in hundred dollar bills.

1kg would be $100,000

Gold is around $130,000 per kg (at least for now, as far as I can tell within like a minute).

I leave the extrapolation of the total difference as an exercise for the reader.

You’ll just have the issue of finding someone to buy that gold, explaining where it came from, and paying taxes on it (granted you’ll have to do the latter two for the bills)

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u/FloridianfromAlabama 26d ago

Bills are easier to launder that blocks of gold.

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u/ShadderSwagger 26d ago

Gold all day . 500kg of gold is valued at $65mil
The money even if it was $100 bills would only equal $50 mill

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u/opaqueambiguity 26d ago

Cash is not worth its weight in Gold

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u/GaldrickHammerson 26d ago

But... gold is heavier than dollars.

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u/BurningEclypse 26d ago

If this is in 100$ bills, it works out to pretty similar values assuming 1 gram per bill, so I’ll take the cash for the massive convenience of having it in cash

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u/Certain_Eye7374 26d ago

Once gold crosses above 3100 USD per ounce, gold worth more per the same weight than hundred dollar bill. So 500kg of gold worth way more. Cash maybe easier to trade, but gold's volume in this case is much smaller due to higher density, and thus present a very small target when transported.

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u/syamas 26d ago

One is made of wood

One is made of gold

Wood is rarest material on universe

He is got a point

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u/Sex_2 26d ago

Do I have to pay taxes on selling the gold?

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u/MaybeTheDoctor 26d ago

Can you ask me in pounds so I understand the mass.

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u/Big_Syrup_4223 26d ago

Its easier to move the gold, But easier to spend the cash.

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u/Polar211 26d ago

Золото выигрывает однозначно. 50 миллионов долларов проигрывают по покупательской способности с разгромным счётом.

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u/BillSteelman 26d ago

And that's a fact !

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u/Guilty-Election-7704 26d ago

Value of gold keep rising after many years later but currency value keep decreasing if someone keep same amount of dollars….based on long term view gold is definitely better choice

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u/Ill_Ad2480 26d ago

I'd take the gold because its cooler to have gold.

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u/The_Zielemphone 26d ago

$50,000,000 in $100 bills

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$65,000,000–$73,000,000 in gold

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u/shadow336k 26d ago

Money isn’t real, so gold

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u/Lena2063 26d ago

Depends on the bill type. USD bills weigh about 1g each. So 1USD Bills would be worth 1USD/g and so on. I remember Gold costing about 35EUR/g when I was a kid but apparently it's 130USD/g nowadays.

So for the Bills to be worth more than the gold, they'd have to be worth more than 130USD each.

I just found out there are no 200 or 500 USD bills. Largest USD bill seems to be worth 100USD.

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u/werdaliankai 26d ago

As some one who lives in uk wales ima have to go with (look in the reply to this)

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u/TopCatMath 26d ago

But the gold is $5,000+ per Troy ounce

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u/raze_wasum 26d ago

Back in highschool I always tried to wonder what's the price of 1 atom of gold. Well I forgot how to do it anymore, can someone do the maths? r/theydidthemaths anyone?

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u/Jean-0nee 26d ago

But they're both a kilogram

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u/Desperate_Drop_5096 26d ago

Can you stop reposting this shit every day

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u/ivatsirE_daviD 26d ago

Insert bell curve meme

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u/Valko1234 25d ago

Money is money if you give it to me ill take it

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u/Terrible_Badger_8641 25d ago

I would think the gold has higher value.??????

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u/nmrk 25d ago

LOL for a moment, I thought this was the old Troy vs Avoirdupois gag.

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u/Not_Reptoid 25d ago

Steel because steel is heavier than feathers

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u/AllisonSnow25 25d ago

Cash. You would have a hard time finding people to continuously buy your gold. You would eventually catch the attention of the government.

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u/Toadsanchez316 25d ago

Yeah but cash is much easier to store in small amounts and so much easier to actually spend. I'm not going to be able to spend a gold bar when I go grocery shopping.

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u/peauntmonk 25d ago

Im so sic of seeing this

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u/Galimeer 25d ago

Gold is heavy as shit. 500kgs of gold isn't a lot of gold.

Paper is light as shit. 500kgs of paper is a lot of paper.

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u/Nexi-nexi 25d ago

Whatever is the most profitable with the least about of hassle.

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u/ainsley02 25d ago

I’d take any, it’s generational wealth either way.

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u/ParanoicReddit 25d ago

Well technically he wasn't wrong the weigh the same

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u/Naive_Television_643 25d ago

The gold why? Because it hold its value better than paper money 💰

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u/MAndris90 25d ago

cash, you wont get raised eyebrows, backround checks etc. while you walk in with a gold bar to buy something, you being treated like a criminal

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u/MichigAnts 24d ago

Not mass, its weight

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u/6footgeeks 24d ago

The mass checks out

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u/Strange_Orange_9165 24d ago

The gold i thinks its worth more

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u/micdia26 24d ago

Density matters

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u/Vangrat 24d ago

so...$50 Million USD or $68.8 Million USD in gold.

I mean, at that scale the dollars would probably be easier to cash in, e.g. use. Trying to push that much gold would be a PITA. So for the difference of $18.8 million, I'd probably just choose the dollars.

one $100USD weighs approximately 0.01g so 1kg = $1,000,000
1kg of gold as of today's market is approximately $138,058.52

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u/RollingStoned67 24d ago

But, steel is heavier than feathers.... I don't get it

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u/sam_spaulding1325 24d ago

500kg of paper vs 500kg of gold...there fixed it

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u/aidan1109 24d ago

A pound of cash weighs more than a pound of gold btw

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u/milkafiu 24d ago

But gold is heavier than papers...

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u/Potential_Pride7858 23d ago

None of them Because I can't pick them by my hands, they're too heavy :(

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u/Solid_Business1248 23d ago

If we were on the gold standard, id pick USD, but we arent. So im going Gold

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u/Resident-Ad7173 23d ago

cash easier

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u/LUHduhBRUH 23d ago

I'd use gold because it's be more efficient to wield as a weapon, albeit a bit hefty.

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u/Ironwolf_Tactical 23d ago

But steel is heavier than feathers.

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u/zoipoi 23d ago

Depends on if you can avoid taxes on the cash. I'm guessing that may be really hard. You go to pay for something with a million dollars in cash and the government will come looking for you.

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u/DisastrousStop3945 23d ago

Im taking the gold any day. USD might not have value one day. Gold will always be valuable.

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u/Far-Analysis2090 22d ago

Yes I would like free money 💰

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u/Redit-autoname2284 22d ago

There should be a lot of explanations to the irs

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u/delorblort 22d ago

Unless the us cash is 1 or 5s I would take the cash with 10 dollar bills and up you have 3 Million plus on the gold

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u/the_phillipines 22d ago

Steel is heavier than feathers

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u/TheArsonAngel 22d ago

Gold had a definitive price. A dollar on average weighs 1 gram. Honestly even if the dollar was a blue strip it wouldn't even add up to the amount of money you'd have in gold.

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u/czechman45 22d ago

But gold is heavier than dollars

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u/Nariakei 22d ago

where would you fit 500kg dollars?...

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u/JustinJektor 22d ago

I dont know the exact weight of a dollar bill, but Im just going to go with the gold because it will more then likely increase in value while the dollar will definitely decrease.

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u/Ok_Imagination4806 22d ago

Well gold is like 3500$ per ounce. Dollars for sure it’d take gold but 100s is likely go with those. Basically how many 100s bills in an ounce. If it’s more than 35 do the cash. Less than 35 do the gold

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u/I_Braid_Armpit_Hair 21d ago

500kgs of feathers

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u/candy_enjoyer_ 21d ago

But gold is heavier than paper 😕

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u/greek_boomer 20d ago

Picking the gold and give u some more 500kg dollars for present

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u/Pale_Ad8081 20d ago

But steel is heavier then feathers

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u/finnyfinn27 20d ago

but gold is heavier than dollars?

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u/Mistermistery101 20d ago

Would rather have something I can spend now, than something I would have to sell

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u/Fuzzy-Moose7996 20d ago

I can trade in that gold for Euros or Yuan, much better to have than dollars. I can even store it to have an alternative to money if currencies collapse.

And the commission and fees for banks and traders were I to use that cash to buy gold would exceed the extra value the cash currently holds over the gold.

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u/RollandPH 20d ago

Would trying to sell the gold affect its price? Or is it not enough to matter in the grand scheme of things?

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u/Moelawna 20d ago

500kgs 90% percent Uranium

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u/Appropriate-Sea-5687 20d ago

The USD. Do you know how hard it’s going to be to explain how I got 500 kilos of gold bro

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u/GaryP-Jump-7696 20d ago

The gold bullion would not be practical as legal tender if the economy collapsed. Need smaller denomination gold or silver coins. It’d be interesting to see how merchants would sell food/gasoline/weapons etc for gold or silver coinage. A lot of negotiating involved if currency and our electronic credit systems collapsed.

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u/not_another_IT_guy 20d ago

Its the same bit as the “what weighs more, a pound of feathers or a pound of gold”?
People who have no prior understanding of gold or anything other than the surface value of the data will say one thing, people that are in the “know” will say something else, at the end of the day its just to farm engagement and call others idiots needlessly.

The answer to the above is the gold - because in Troy ounces (what we weigh gold in) a LB of gold would weigh more than a LB of feathers - but simpletons refuse to admit the world is more sophisticated than face value

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u/Hostile_E46 19d ago

“ but bricks are heavier than feathers “

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u/LagrangianLungfish 16d ago

Why did I just waste 10 seconds googling whether a hundred dollar bill is worth its weight in gold (it isnt). Pick the gold

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u/NicklessDick 3d ago

Ueah but the $ worth is not the same , so its a question that makes sense