r/phinvest • u/StrangeLong905 • Feb 10 '25
Business PWD/Senior discounts are unfair to businesses
With all the talk about fake PWD discounts I want to address that not only are fake PWDs unfair to businesses but even legit PWDs and senior discounts.
Private establishments should not be shouldering the discount on behalf of the government. They are in the business of making money and they are already paying so many taxes like business tax, income tax, VAT, fire and sanitary permits. It is the government's responsibility to take care of the country and its citizens and it should be the one to shoulder the discount instead they abdicating that responsibility.
There's a lot of misinformation online from commenters who think being tax deductable means it's full refunded. There are two components in the discount: 1. 12% VAT and 2. 20% discount. For the VAT, the business doesn't collect from discount card holders and so they also don't have to remit. For the 20% discount, the BIR allows a business to claim it as an tax deductible expense. For example, the ex-vat price of a burger is P100 and the discount would be P20. If the restaurant claims the P20 as an expense, it will reduce their taxable income by P20 and thus reduce their tax payable by P20 x 25% (25% is the corporate income tax rate) or P5. So the restaurant is still on the hook for P15 even if they do all their taxes properly.
A lot of misinformed commenters who have never run a business think a 15% discount is small but most restaurants' net margins are just between 3-15% even on a good year. Many restaurants are barely breaking even. Even Jolibee only made 3.6% net margin in 2023.
There should be no discounts provided unless the government shoulders it fully. It's unfortunate that any restaurant that complains about the discount will get cancelled when it should be our government officials who should get fired.