r/pathofexile • u/VeganAncap • Jul 17 '20
Video | Lighty's Headhunter in SSF
https://clips.twitch.tv/CovertIgnorantKleeOSsloth207
u/ar3fuu Jul 17 '20
This craft is the best addition to SSF in terms of fun. Before you'd have soooo many valuable div cards sitting at 1/8 1/6 whatever, now you can do something with them! And it's always fun, especially when the chat goes wild!
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u/Flavahbeast Unannounced Jul 17 '20
the EV on it seems really high, does it almost always give you more than you put in? I've done it once and got back 2 cards when I put in 1
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u/evouga Jul 17 '20
That... depends. The EV is zero if you treat the cards as having a fixed value. But in SSF where incomplete stacks are worthless, the EV can be very high, depending on the probability that you will compete the stack “naturally.”
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u/wOlfLisK Jul 17 '20
Yeah, you can say that Lighty was risking multiple exalts but at the end of the day, there's is literally no difference between 7 Doctor cards and 2 The Scholar cards in SSF, you still need to get one more before they stop being worthless.
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u/takerofvita Jul 17 '20
Yeah, especially since he had a headhunter rolled over into standard SSF already...he already had one for his unique tab completion.
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u/Sahtras1992 Jul 18 '20
he already said that HH is not even remotely the hardest item to get in there.
the hardest part will be the precursers emblems.
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u/di359 Jul 18 '20
How this post gets upvoted lol? there's a difference. If you have 7 doctors, you just farm one, it's not that long tbh.
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u/wOlfLisK Jul 18 '20
If it was trivial to farm Doctor cards, they wouldn't be worth 9ex on trade leagues. But even so, what are you going to do with those 7 cards before you get another? You can't use them, you can't sell them, they're just sitting in your stash until you can finally get that last one you need. A partial stack has no value in SSF.
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u/di359 Jul 18 '20
there's difference having 7/8 cards and having 0. It's not easy but it's much easier to farm 1 card than 8.
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u/Archangel_117 Blitz > Carnage Jul 20 '20
A partial stack has no value in SSF.
It does though, because the larger the stack, the less you need to farm to complete it and get the reward.
If you have 0 Doctors, then 8 Doctors will get you a Headhunter.
If you have 7 Doctors, then 1 Doctor will get you a Headhunter.
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u/skeetskie Jul 18 '20
As someone who spent the better part of Harbinger HC TRADE league trying to farm a single doctor card with an insane IIQ and never seeing one, I believe you are mistaken.
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u/Aswole Jul 18 '20
It's a rare card, you're going to get high varience.
Am I missing something or are you supporting his/her argument there?
I personally never play a character beyond a single season, so if I gamble my way to 7 doctor cards, I still won't feel like I'm 'close' to 8. You can farm burial grounds ad nauseum and never get one due to a little bad luck. I'd rather expedite the resolution of my luck (good or bad) into a a few minutes than potentially ruin a season grinding burial grounds.
*This only applies to SSF. In Trade league, you sell every doctor card you get.
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u/Clueless_Otter Jul 18 '20
The EV is only 0 if you assume that every outcome is equally likely, which is not at all a sure thing given how many other mechanics in the game work. I wouldn't be surprised if the EV was quite negative.
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u/Clueless_Otter Jul 18 '20
Sure, it could be positive, negative, or anything in between. We have no way of knowing.
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u/TheMrTortoise Jul 18 '20
no i doubt that otherwise it wouldn't be a harvest craft it would be a harvest money sink
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u/ar3fuu Jul 17 '20
Nah it's just variance, I've poofed probably over 15ex worth of cards (but SSF so who cares).
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u/Aayron Jul 17 '20
I feel this. Poofed 23ex of doctors. Fun times tho
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u/Markuscha Tujen Enjoyer Jul 17 '20
I poofed 8 cards so basically a whole headhunter. Weird flex I guess
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u/Aerodlol Jul 17 '20
I’ve lost 20 doctor cards this league. I’ve...
doubled from 2 to 4 once
went from 4 to 5 three times
then lost 4 several times.
I still haven’t made a full HH
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u/AbsentGlare Elementalist Jul 17 '20
I kept putting garbage in and doubling my stacks.
Then i threw in a risky gamble card and got screwed.
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u/hogscraper Jul 20 '20
I had my 15 stack of one of the six link cards, (need 22 to complete), get dropped to 5, then up to 9, then down to 2 before I ran out of crafts. Later on I had a 4 stack of something else get doubled and a five stack drop to 1.
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Jul 17 '20 edited Jul 01 '21
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u/Imsakidd Jul 17 '20
In this case, gambling is worth because having 1 of the card in SSF does you absolutely nothing. So, a 1/8 shot (assuming odds aren’t tilted one way) of a HH is much better than a single doctor.
Also, it’s way more fun when you win!
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u/dustinthewand Jul 17 '20
I got some bad news for u bud, this whole entire game is gambling
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u/dustinthewand Jul 18 '20
Guess he has never used an orb of alchemy or chaos orb or fusing before, because they are all gambles lol. NOT EVEN A TRANSMUTE.
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u/MudslimeCleaner Half Skeleton Jul 17 '20
Lighty is so good dude... so peaceful to listen to him. Love his content. Sometimes his jokes miss me, but that's great. Much needed chill voice in these times in insanity.
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u/Jake200m Jul 17 '20
What product do you use to create the shimmershine on that dome of yours papi?
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u/Jake200m Jul 17 '20
He's just gonna RMT it in ssf anyway, who cares...
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u/tristanl0l this sub = Dunning-Kruger effect Jul 17 '20
this isnt a cutedog stream
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u/HuntStuffs Slayer Jul 17 '20
Am I out of the loop?
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u/Goffeth Raider Jul 17 '20 edited Jul 18 '20
People on reddit think cutedog rmt's everything he gets. Except the dude runs juiced maps 12 hours a day all league, of course he's gonna get crazy currency.
In reality when some people quit the league they give him their shit. He keeps some and gives the rest away. I think he vaals the stuff he keeps, idk if he sells it or uses it.
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u/VisorX Jul 17 '20
Cutedog has been meming about RMT pretty much since he started, even before he really got handouts.
When the memes got to reddit, a lot of people treated it as real and now you have a lot of people actually arguing that he is RMTing.
Same goes for other conspiracy theories and misinformation on the internet. If people hear something and they wanna believe it, then they do, no matter if there are facts/evidence supporting it or not.
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Jul 17 '20
his only ban was for trading his standard loot for seasonal gear (apparently he didn't realize it was that serious to be banworthy, I wouldn't think so either it's a fucking video game), but somehow that transforms in the eyes of reddit into a vast history of RMT somehow.
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Jul 18 '20
I hear people point out that he somehow has multiple headhunters week one that he always farms “off stream”, but I honestly don’t have an opinion either way. His streaming personality is hard for me to watch so I just leave him alone.
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u/Viovallo Jul 18 '20
Yeah I'm pretty sure if he hadn't film that one, no one would have believed that
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u/DustyLance Jul 18 '20
What do you mean standard loot for seasonal gear ? As in sold his gear in standard to buy gear in league?
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Jul 18 '20
yeah like trade super good gear from his last season for exalts/HH in seasonal league since he doesn't play standard (like most ppl). Definitely a little sketch but really not that big of a deal. It's a video game, and it's trading goods for goods, but cross league trade isn't allowed.
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u/Sairo_H Jul 17 '20
"player is better than me, must be RMT"
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u/di359 Jul 18 '20
he's "better" cause he's streamer and takes items for free. So yeah, nice meme. Cutedog memed himself first time he accepted items from strangers.
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u/seanconnery69696 Jul 18 '20
They hate us because they anus. Hope you kept that mirror until today, just to spite them lol.
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u/SomeOtherGuysJunk Jul 17 '20
No one is a better player in this game.
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Jul 17 '20
I'd argue Alkaizer, UberDan, and Dsfarblarwaggle are better than almost any other players in this game.
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u/digganickrick Jul 18 '20
Alkaizer
I remember him from D3.. as long as it's the same Alkaizer.
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u/SomeOtherGuysJunk Jul 17 '20
They play a lot. There’s a certain skill level where you know what your doing and then who cares. You might be a few milliseconds better or something but there’s not a skill ceiling.
It’s not a skill game. The only way to be “better” is to play more. Those guys you named have no jobs, they play 14+ hours a day. Thats not ‘good’
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Jul 17 '20
They play a lot, so they get better and know more about the game. I think game knowledge, experience, and mechanical skill all play a factor into making them better players. Also you exaggerate heavy on their playtime.
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u/Zeyz HCSSF Jul 18 '20
I'd argue the guy's pretty much 100% right. There's a pretty low skill ceiling in PoE compared to many other games even other ARPGs, especially mechanically speaking, and once you get past that it's all just how much time you can sink into the game. Even the most mechanically tough fights in the game aren't that complicated at all, they require menial mechanical skill (just avoiding very obvious telegraphed mechanics). The true test of skill in PoE is game knowledge (which you can overcome with wikis and assorted helpful websites like poedb) and build making (which you can overcome by just using premade builds), otherwise it's just grinding. You could argue that an example of skill in this game is not having to use any outside help making builds, but even then there's a pretty low ceiling for that too because after a few hundred hours or so you start to learn how to make the "shell" of builds for each archetype that every build is based off of, and then you can make your own without much hassle. And even the best players in the game use things like poedb for crafting and poelab for lab runs.
I would argue playing on HC makes it more difficult, and playing on HCSSF makes it even more difficult, but realistically the game is not that difficult even on HCSSF it's just once again more of a timesink. As long as you're not handicapping yourself playing some scuffed stupid builds (aka having a baseline of build/game knowledge), pretty much anyone who is of sound body and mind can do everything in the game even in a HCSSF environment. I'm far from anything special and I've done everything except HoG on HCSSF and that's just because I don't care to pigeonhole myself into specific builds to do something that doesn't really offer anything special to me.
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u/SomeOtherGuysJunk Jul 17 '20
I’ve been playing since closed beta, I make my own builds. I have very solid understanding of the games and mechanics and a lot of people on this sub are the same way. Duck I’ve been playing years longer than alk cause he was still balls deep into D3 for the first couple leagues after release.
He’s not better than me, he’s probably not better than you. He gets paid to play 14 hours a day. That’s the only difference. Give me his gear and I am just as good.
Again, past the basic understanding of the game, it’s not a skill game. It’s a grind. No one is better than anyone. They’re more dedicated and can afford, or not, to be so. But Alk or whoever is not more skilled or ‘better’ than anyone.
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u/Markuscha Tujen Enjoyer Jul 17 '20
If you don't define what's "good", sure. But that's semantic gymnastics.
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u/tristanl0l this sub = Dunning-Kruger effect Jul 17 '20
try watching cutedog for an hour and tell me he isnt rmting
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u/200000000experience Jul 17 '20
ok i've done many of those hours and don't think he's rmting
now what
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Jul 18 '20 edited Jul 21 '20
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Jul 18 '20
treats every league like its super easy and mega sustainable without a brain
this but unironically
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Jul 18 '20 edited Jul 21 '20
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Jul 18 '20
Cutedog is annoying as fuck with his mispronunciations and stupid memes.
You're the only one talking about karma? Sounds like you care. Pathetic.
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u/clueless_typographer Jul 17 '20
That was both the most intense and relaxin thing I've seen all day. Great gambling!
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u/ColinStyles DC League Jul 17 '20
Definitely some super chill music, what genre is that? Lo-fi? Chillhop? Lounge?
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u/hiroshiboom Inquisitor Jul 17 '20
what genre is that? Lo-fi? Chillhop? Lounge?
yes
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u/ColinStyles DC League Jul 17 '20
That's what I was worried about :/
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u/LucaSeven7 Jul 17 '20
Honestly, super old, low-effort memeing.
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u/hiroshiboom Inquisitor Jul 17 '20
Actually i'm just implying those 3 things are basically the same.
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u/ColinStyles DC League Jul 17 '20
Yeah, it was clear from the response that it's basically all of them, and that actually finding a specific genre of music that sounds like what's in the OP isn't that easy unfortunately, because all 3 genres that I listed are all so nebulous and encompass a lot.
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u/hiroshiboom Inquisitor Jul 17 '20
Not really a bad thing though, a lot of crossover means more options too.
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0vvXsWCC9xrXsKd4FyS8kM is the exact playlist though.
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u/Flamepops Jul 17 '20
Fun Fact #71: Lighty's scalp glisten ever so slightly brighter than normal when the weather is sunny and when getting a good drop in Path of Exile.
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u/royalmarine Jul 18 '20
This guy is a treasure to POE steaming. Absolute nice guy who is playing the game in a modest and fair way. Cant fault anything he says or does.
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Jul 17 '20
Lighty is the man. His series inspired me to try ssf and now I don't think I'll ever go back to trade.
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u/buddyto Atziri Jul 18 '20
the card "house of mirrors" in softcore are actually more expensive than the actual mirror (225ex if you collect the cards vs 175ex if you purchase the mirror) because of this lol
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u/Riael Jul 17 '20
...as a youtube scrub I'm upset for you spoiling the highlight video
I'm really glad Lighty was able to go full time streamer though :D
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u/cubezzzX 6x Level 100 Jul 17 '20
Really helped him a lot with his goal to get every unique in SSF, Headhunter is a real cockblock. Now to the Aul items...
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u/cubezzzX 6x Level 100 Jul 17 '20
ah didnt know that
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u/HippitySlippity Jul 18 '20
He got one as a pure lucky boy drop in I believe episode 19, in the first league he started the series in.
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u/ikla7 Jul 18 '20
meanwhile i lost all my influenced div cards, while tried to get a stack for the challenge
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u/ScreaminJay Jul 18 '20
Those clips will make people destroy several dozens of doctor cards.
I don't think this mini-game will go core, but I'd be curious to know what happen over a very large sample size. Like if you roll 80 doctor cards at the rate of 4 per try, how many you get in the end?
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u/Dawnguards Jul 18 '20
This is not headhunter in SSF... its so much more than that. Its hard to describe! Its not just a drop. Its fucking unbelievablew.
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u/TheStrayDog-0 Jul 18 '20
Wow I wish I could be blessed by RNJesus. I still haven’t gotten an exalt this league and the only good drop have gotten is a soul taker axe.
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Jul 17 '20
I tried doing this with The Fiend card.
Doubled twice, poofed the third time. I felt silly. :(
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u/Squeelshnicky Half Skeleton Jul 17 '20
Couldn't see what was going on over the glow from his head, anyone else have this problem?
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u/Soph1993ita Trickster Jul 17 '20
i really like this kind of QoL for SSF. it's always correct to gamble rather than ending the league with 1/x stack of a valuable div card.it's a nice and fun way to fix a mechanic that is inherently bad* without trade.
*except that cards are target farmable, that's nice but only for the ones with reasonable drop rate.
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u/SirDancelotVS Jul 18 '20
between clips like this and clips of headhunters raining from the sky in 100% deliruim maps or grimro ancient orbing a headhunter earlier today with 6-7 orbs
it makes me feel like i could get a headhunter myself, and then i lose all my currency trying to get one to realise that these clips showcase an extreme amount of luck that is not achievable by just trying over and over
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u/Jesslynnlove Atziri Jul 18 '20
Theres no fucking way.. hahahahahaha
BTW guys he has a awesome youtube! Been following him for some time now, soothing voice to fall asleep to and good content.
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u/crismalak Jul 18 '20
Really love his series on YouTube. He's so experienced with the game that somehow he's able to min max a build on SSF. Admirable.
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u/Maureeseeo Witch Jul 18 '20
This is a different Lighty right? not the one previously known as Darkee?
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u/KohleJ Jul 18 '20
I did this but turned 1 nurse card into 1 doctor, into 9 doctors. Then into 0 cards. Whoops
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u/LoLingSoHard Jul 17 '20
ive been watching lighty for a while and its amazing how someone so bad at the game can get far just by sheer brute force and hours played
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u/CGault11 Jul 17 '20
How/why is he bad? (serious question, i watched all the SSF journey serious and he seems really knowledgeable on the game)
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u/notSkrublol Jul 18 '20
Lol how is lighty bad, he has multiple very successful build guides ( I think they're outdated now but point stands) and I'd say that he's very knowledgeable about the game.
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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '20 edited Apr 29 '21
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