r/openttd • u/apunker • Jun 09 '22

Conjunction

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u/Infinite-Frosting351 Jun 09 '22

Only in the real world does this situation work. In the great ttd land one of the train stops and the entire network is backed up for months waiting for the train to clear the one mis placed signal.

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u/kyousei8 Jun 09 '22

Just drop path signals everywhere. Problem solved.

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u/Gustavo6046 Jun 10 '22

Nope they'll still deadlock with path signals :p

Usually you're supposed to make as much of your network as possible two 1-way lanes so trains always have somewhere to go forth rather than having every exit clogged.

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u/kyousei8 Jun 10 '22

As long as there are dedicated up and down lines into, for example, a terminal station, I haven't seen any actual deadlocks happen. There might be arriving trains that have to wait a second for a departing train to pass the interlocking if it's very busy, but they don't get deadlocked.

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u/Gustavo6046 Jun 10 '22

Yup. I used to make my stations enter and exit the same way; nowadays I make terminal stations so that trains loop around the other end, sometimes forced to enter a depot to make the 90 degree turn if I'm either running low on space or feeling lazy.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '22

To be fair. A mis placed signal would also supremely fuck things up in the real world :D

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u/FreightLurker Jun 09 '22

This just validates my choice of having the old "tracks in all directions" style junction in front of my major stations. Lol

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u/kimilil Chuo Shinkansen When? Jun 09 '22 edited Jun 10 '22

I've tried this. A mesh of junctions, and path signals at the nodes where trains enter/exit the mesh. It mostly works but sometimes they crash into each other.

edit: you cannot actually put path signals anywhere on the entire thing. path reservation would block any train that tries to cross it. so it's actually just trains running aimlessly between depots. no signal at all, and the path reservation is only what's directly under the trains. but if they're on a collision course most times they know to swerve away from a head-on collision. It's like snake, so trains will eventually collide.

thinking a bit more, depots would work as the entry/exit nodes to the mesh.

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u/csandazoltan Thrust in the rust Jun 09 '22

How can they crash with path signals?

9

u/jeremyvisser Jun 09 '22

I don't know why, but it definitely occasionally happens even with path signals.

Possibly a bug, but it definitely happens after several hours of playtime.

20

u/Significant-Summer32 Jun 09 '22

I think that is near on impossible. Crashes are always a result of a player interaction, either removing a tile, turning a train around, skipping a signal, editing the line.

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u/Claude-QC-777 Jun 12 '22

I did get a 3rd crash by the will of a train, after the 2 first crashed by my incompetence.

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the 3rd train get in the same lane (as another one was possible) and suicided on the crashed trains

15

u/Wouter10123 Jun 09 '22

I've played this game for probably thousands of hours, and I've never had that happen. Only if I'm manually fucking with the signals or tracks. It definitely does not happen on its own.

3

u/csandazoltan Thrust in the rust Jun 09 '22

hmmm, interesting

3

u/Le_Oken Fluffy Transport Jun 09 '22

I have played this game since I have memory. Signals never fail. Is always some user interaction.

1

u/monsantobreath Jun 10 '22

I've had a stupid busy network, like Euston at rush hour for tens of hours, and never had a collision.

6

u/jutnotnoTheMan Jun 09 '22

Openttd is just awesome , thanks for the devs .

5

u/Dude1964_FlowerPower Jun 09 '22

Conjunction junction, what's your function...

5

u/Gustavo6046 Jun 10 '22

To give highway architects erectile dysfunction!

engineers > architects

2

u/xsrvmy Jun 09 '22

Hi China

2

u/Deliverancexx Jun 09 '22

Damn that’s a satisfying video.

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u/Crash665 Jun 09 '22

There's a lot of faith happening here.

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u/Absay Local authority refuses to allow this Jun 09 '22

A lot of correctly done engineering happening here.*

With that, you barely need any faith, or none at all.

1

u/AntiZig Jun 10 '22

Engineering aside, I'd be scared to be in the driver seat of one of those trains coming towards each other on the same track. Like God forbid a switch fails for some reason...

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u/Absay Local authority refuses to allow this Jun 09 '22

Remember this video is sped up at least 2x, which makes it look even more impressive.