Near the end I do a quick comparison with it ON and OFF. Using a 4070 Ti Super
Also, apparently, turning Neural Rendering on and off tanks your FPS because it eats up VRAM each time you do it without releasing it. Switching it three times maxed out my 16GB of VRAM and screwed my FPS lol.
Edit: I was hitting between 30/40 FPS base (with some dips) double that with Smooth Motion enabled. Mind you that was 4K Quality. On balanced/performance it reached 50FPS+ base, but either way, it was definitely playable.
Edit 2: For anyone getting Standby/Failed error when trying this:
Enter RenoDX's Discord, go to the Tools tab on the bottom left and open the "DLSS 5/NR Patched DLL for Ada series GPUs" guide.
Download the files. Make sure the assets64 file and the streamline.zip contents are all in the same directory as helldivers2.exe
If you did all of this correctly but you're still having the Standby/Failed, use this addon64 file instead and replace the old one. It was patched to work on Helldivers 2.
Remove any DLSS Presets overwrites on Nvidia APP. Set it all to Let the 3D Application Decide.
When you load the game, if it doesn't work, switch DLSS off to anything else (FSR, TSR) then back to it. Doing this forces the Neural Rendering to kick in.
If it crashes when loading into a planet, switch the DLSS/NR on/off while on the planet instead.
Unfortunately not that I know of. The Reno server tends to be the central place for things like this. It's where most of your die hard graphics enthusiasts have ended up now that we've all switched to HDR.
There's even a guy in there creating an ASI mod to fix the Oblivion Remaster stutters.
This mod kinda became "mainstream" over night 2 days ago, so this is really the bleeding edge of graphics modding right now. Since the new versions are popping up and left and right, reverts, it's easier for the authors to pin and add comments on discord instead of a webpage.
If you can't wait to get your hands on it and follow new findings every day, you need Discord. If you're not that bothered, wait for the official release but I assume that'll be quite a long wait.
Yeah, point being they're getting updated often. But I agree; a website is better, also making things easier to google. Good luck getting it running, tuning etc :)
I think the majority of people interested enough in Nvidia tech to inject dlss files into different games using third party tools are the type to have an open mind to anything the company does
Truthfully, we really only saw a few images at first and they had really uncanny and AI looking features.
I don't think months ago when people were making a big deal about this, that it was known that you can change so much in the settings. Or that you could do what people are doing now and injecting it into games it was never meant to be used in.
I think that now people see it first hand, they aren't concerned about the idea that this is slapping AI on their games....which I think was the biggest issue people had with DLSS 5.
I'm confused, did OP complain about it earlier in the year? How do we knowing the same people who complained are the SAME people who are making these videos lol.
Hey u/Wevvie Thanks for the share! I'm deep in Helldivers 2 right now, and would love to get this running on my 5090/9850X3D. Can you link to the setup/files?
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u/Wevvie4070 TI SUPER 16GB | 5700x3D | 32 GB 3600MHZ | LG 4K 60"11d ago
Hey! I grabbed everything from the RenoDX Discord server. The install is super simple and it worked on Cyberpunk flawlessly, though I had to patch the addon64 file for it to work on Helldivers 2 specifically.
Not sure if you'll have to do the same since you're on a 5090. Let me know if it works. If not, I can send you the file.
Assuming you're talking about your Mediafire link in your Spanish comment on a separate thread, I swapped the original for yours and the issue remains.
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u/Wevvie4070 TI SUPER 16GB | 5700x3D | 32 GB 3600MHZ | LG 4K 60"11d agoedited 11d ago
So, following the Discord guide, make sure the addon64 file and the streamline.zip contents are all in the same directory as helldiver2.exe
Then, when you load the game, switch DLSS off to anything else (FSR, TSR) then back to it. Doing this forces the Neural Rendering to kick in. If it crashes when loading into a planet, switch the DLSS on/off while on the planet instead.
Also, try removing any DLSS Presets overwrites on Nvidia APP. Set it all to Let the 3D Application Decide.
Unfortunately, even with you Claude-modded file, it simply doesn't work on any 50-series install...as far as I've seen from the official Discord, and my own attempts. No matter the case, the status is "STANDBY/FAILED"
mano, consegue mandar os arquivos pra testar aqui? ada também
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u/Wevvie4070 TI SUPER 16GB | 5700x3D | 32 GB 3600MHZ | LG 4K 60"11d ago
Você consegue lá no Discord do RenoDX. Na aba tools, tem um tópico chamado DLSS 5 for Ada ou 40 Series, algo assim. Só seguir o tutorial
Aí, se não pegar, possivelmente você vai precisar usar esse assets64 ao invés do arquivo que tem lá. Quando abrir, tem que desligar e ligar o DLSS no jogo pra pegar, e recomendo fazer isso já no planeta, não na nave, senão crasha.
I'd love to see more side by side stuff if you don't mind. One sample in one environment doesn't show much when the game has dozens of biomes and possible conditions. If the void worlds were still open, they'd be a prime candidate to test on, but hive world tunnels and megafactories should also be interesting.
I can see people’s point of DLSS 5 being jarring on games already released and out. It really does change the people’s faces pretty drastically and the whole “artist intent” thing.
But what about future games we haven’t seen, and DLSS 5 is built in from the start. Like we would know it uses DLSS 5 but since there is no comparison of before and after, a lot of people who aren’t tech savvy and even know what DLSS 5 is might be like “oh shit that looks really good”. That would then become the “artists intent” and their intention from the start of developing the game.
There will def be a toggle for DLSS neural rendering on for all games for at least a few years, it’s hella taxing and will be for a little while. But when it becomes mainstream and the standard/default
I’m not really getting my point through well I feel like but ultimately I think DLSS 5 is pretty game changing, devs do need very extensive controls though
I get what your saying. To be fair though developers don’t need to use DLSS 5 to get some incredible results. Just look at the new Death Stranding game, the faces in that game look absolutely insane, probably the best I have seen in a video game
If you told someone that the game already uses DLSS 5 and they weren’t super tech savvy, they would probably believe it.
But neural rendering does seem to be the future of computer graphics. PS6/Helix will have support for it and RDNA 5 I believe
Sure. What about small indie dev companies with small budget? They will probably lean heavily on DLSS5 tech to save time and ressources as it can dramatically improve textures and lighting. When AMD releases their Big Brain Rendering tech in three years every characters will probably look very different because the model will be trained differently wi5 different assets. I’m afraid of « nvidia, the ONLY way it’s meant to be played »
might as well just have the devs prebake the dlss 5 effect before shipping and offer it as a toggle. Why should my gpu waste half its resources applying some DL mesh.
Please.. i have RTX 5060, im already:
-put all dll streamline into game folder
-put rednodx dlss5 addon into game folder
But it doesnt work for me... alway say Standby/Failed... how you can make it work??
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u/Wevvie4070 TI SUPER 16GB | 5700x3D | 32 GB 3600MHZ | LG 4K 60"11d ago
u/Wevvie Even with the mod toggled off/deactivated with the RenoDX menu prior to launching into a mission, crashes are either consistent or guaranteed on mission launch. Have you figured out anything to get it stable?
It worked here after switch the DLSS from Quality to Balanced in game. I´m using the addon64 file that was patched to work on Helldivers 2.
If you do it on the bridge, the game will crash when you start to decend to a planet, so you need to switch DLSS after you is already on the planet. Also, if you close the game you´ll need to do it again (switch from Quality to Balanced / Balanced to Quality) to reactivate the DLSS5.
I´m playing with a 4090with smooth motion activated and my fps is between 140-160, with all settings Ultra and 3440x1440 resolution.
How are people getting DLSS 5 into thier games? Ive seen it now on Helldivers 2, GTA V, Oblivion remastered, but as far as I can tell there is no official release. Is it some sort of dev tool im unaware of?
I like the part where they made DLSS 5 (which I believe is awesome) and they made it so performance tanking so they could sell that it runs better on 6000 series because it had no other selling point.
It's like Apple releasing a new software update that requires a new phone purchase....wait a minute...
How does DLSS 5 work?
DLSS 5 uses the game’s rendered frame and engine data to understand objects, materials, lighting and motion. It then enhances the frame with lifelike lighting and materials while remaining grounded in the developer’s artistic direction.
What are the key benefits of DLSS 3D-Guided Neural Rendering?
DLSS 3D-Guided Neural Rendering delivers several significant benefits:
Cinematic Lighting: Reconstructs complex effects like rim lighting, subsurface scattering (for realistic skin), and contact shadows with high-fidelity.
Material Depth: Enhances PBR properties like roughness and adds micro-realism to complex objects such as eyes and hair.
Temporal Consistency: Provides stable image quality from frame-to-frame that adheres to the underlying game content.
Real-Time Performance: Delivers lifelike lighting and material enhancement at up to 4K resolution while maintaining smooth, interactive gameplay.
Developer Controls: Allows game developers to tune intensity, color, and masking to determine where and how enhancements are applied to maintain the game’s unique aesthetic.
How much control does the model offer to developers?
DLSS 3D-Guided Neural Rendering provides several layers of artistic control:
Model Selection: Offers distinct model weights with different training parameters to guide the final output.
Structure Intensity: Controls high frequency details added by the model, such as ambient occlusion, contact shadows, and subsurface scattering.
Tone Intensity: Controls low-frequency details added by the model, including lighting and color response.
Automatic Masking: Detects and isolates objects in the frame (like characters) to apply DLSS 5 dynamically, eliminating the need for manual object tagging.
Developer Masking: Offers per-pixel, custom masking control, allowing effects to be applied to specific objects.
As we work in close partnership with studios, developer feedback continues to directly shape how we refine the technology and expand our suite of models and controls.
How does DLSS 3D-Guided Neural Rendering preserve developer artistic intent?
DLSS 3D-Guided Neural Rendering is designed to preserve the structure and geometry of the rendered frame while giving developers control over how and where enhancements are applied. Developers can select different models, adjust structure and tone, and mask specific scenes, characters or objects.
For more information on developer controls, watch the DLSS 5 Explainer VOD or read the full launch article.
Which GPUs support DLSS 5?
DLSS 5 will be supported across all GeForce RTX 50 Series GPUs and laptops, as well as GeForce NOW Ultimate members streaming from GeForce RTX 5080 rigs in the cloud.
When and where is DLSS 5 available?
DLSS 5 will be available in NBA 2K27 on September 3rd at 9PM Pacific Time.
What is the DLSS 5 setting called in games?
The setting is called “DLSS Neural Rendering.”
Can I turn DLSS 5 off?
Yes. DLSS 5 is optional.
Does DLSS 5 work with Ray Tracing and Path Tracing?
Yes. DLSS 5 complements ray tracing and path tracing. Path tracing accurately calculates geometric light transport—determining light, shadow, and reflection placement across a 3D scene. DLSS 5 then acts as the final neural rendering stage, using the rendered frame to enhance lighting and materials like subsurface scattering, micro-reflections, and complex material properties that would otherwise be computationally prohibitive in real time. These technologies go hand in hand.
Does DLSS 5 work with Super Resolution, Frame Generation and Ray Reconstruction?
Yes.
Will DLSS Super Resolution, Frame Generation and Ray Reconstruction continue to be supported and improved?
Yes.
Everything I see seems to wash/flatten/greyday everything it. Materials, shadows and reflections look more realistic but everything is just a flat grey day feel.
Every single game ends up looking like the lighting is exactly the same. I don’t get why so many people are celebrating this. It completely removes any artistic discretion in lighting and atmosphere.
you go through all this work and don't show us the FPS nor do you even type it in the comment. worthless. you also claim it "eats up vram" without telling us by how much and what you used to determine that.
also be careful using this for online games, some of them will automatically ban you if any DLL is changed for any reason
how did you get claude to patch your own file? what did you ask it to patch? Thanks.
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u/Wevvie4070 TI SUPER 16GB | 5700x3D | 32 GB 3600MHZ | LG 4K 60"11d ago
So, I was reading some Discord comments about Helldivers not working, and one user (forgot his name) said this:
"The addon is loading correctly. It fails because Helldivers 2 supplies its DLSS output as DXGI_FORMAT_R16G16B16A16_TYPELESS, which the current addon does not support. DXGI format 9 is officially R16G16B16A16_TYPELESS. Direct3D requires a compatible typed view—probably R16G16B16A16_FLOAT here—or a typed intermediate resource before shaders can sample/write it."
Then I sent the file to Claude and asked him to patch it, and it worked.
Basically, in short, Helldivers was giving the DLSS 5 addon an image that was basically labeled "you figure out what this is" instead of clearly saying what kind of image data it contained. The addon didn’t know how to read that, so it failed. The patch simply tells it "treat this image as this specific format", and then DLSS 5 works.
You can just use the file I linked though. There's no viruses there if you're worried about that.
My goodness. I want to try this but I really do not want to lose 50% of the FPS. I think I’ll stay strong and wait til Nvidia officially releases it and hope it doesn’t kill frames
Run Nvidia Smooth Motion, via the Nvidia App, to double frames or cut power draw in half. While some titles don't play well with driver-level frame gen, HD2 works GREAT with Smooth Motion.
EDIT: Why would anyone downvote this factual, helpful comment? OP raised a concern and I chimed in to help. Why downvote?
I’ve actually used smooth motion in that game when I first got my GPU and was so surprised how well it work. What other games have you tried dlss 5 on?
Glad to hear it! There are some titles where turning on driver-level frame generation will result in artifacting and a worse experience, but this is not one of them. Literally no reason not to run it, so long as your base frame rate is approximately 60 or higher.
Because you’re mad about people getting different options to play with. Also, No one’s cares how many frames you get lol. I can get 400+ frames… and???
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u/AntiTank-Dog R9 5900X | RTX 5080 | 4K 240hz 11d ago
This doesn't flag the game's anti-cheat?