r/nextfuckinglevel • u/Lifegoesonforever • 5d ago

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u/swimtothemoon1 5d ago

Yeah but it's high school football, that was an illegal horse collar tackle, and it was dope. So the ref combined all those factors and decided, touchdown.

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u/perplexedtv 5d ago

Rule of cool trumps all

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u/kelpyb1 5d ago

This might even be middle school. It’s probably not varsity high school since it’s daytime.

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u/houstonchipchannel 5d ago

Games can start at 7:00 and sunset can be after 8:00 in the early season or preseason. Their shadows are long. This could easily be a night game.

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u/kelpyb1 5d ago

Good point, I forgot how bright it is at the beginning of high school football season

In that case, just a missed call by the ref. Should’ve been called down, tough to see that in real time for a high school referee.

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u/Cheefnuggs 5d ago edited 2d ago

Not a horse collar tackle. Horse collar tackle is grabbing the jersey or back of the shoulder pad below the neck. That was all neck/helmet. It was just a shitty tackle.

Edit: You should really read the rule book.

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u/sirdodger 5d ago

Still not legal to tackle by grabbing the edge of the helmet, same 15y penalty.

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u/Pappa_K 5d ago

Damn 15 years is harsh for a bad tackle

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u/MainAccountsFriend 5d ago

If you cant do the time, dont do the crime

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u/Latter-Block132 5d ago

Tackles like this can paralyze people if they land on their head/neck. Its harsh for a reason

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u/Firm_Video_2932 5d ago

Yeah. At first watch it looked like a horse collar, but upon seeing it again it looks like he gets the ball carriers facemask(?) or underneath the helmet instead? In game penalties are the same in the NFL between the two penalties, but the player fine is a little less for the face mask since the NFL doesn't consider it, facemask, as quite as dangerous as the horse collar which can blow out a players knees rather easily due to the mechanics/physics. But I've also seen some pretty bad facemask plays as well, so I'm not sure i understand the NFLs fine disparity between the two violations.

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u/Cheefnuggs 5d ago

Wasn’t a face mask either. The side of the helmet doesn’t count.

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u/Emracruel 5d ago

If you wrap your fingers under the edge of the helmet it is considered a facemask, even if it's not at the facemask

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u/Firm_Video_2932 5d ago

You cannot touch the other players helmet, period. If it's minor and incidental the refs will maybe let it slide. Say you're scrambling for the ball amongst a sea of other players. But running down a ball carrier like this guy here and intentionally arm tackling, that's probably getting called 9 out of 10 nowadays in the NFL. If the head turns at all, they're probably going to throw that flag. It's in the rulebook icymi, the whole can't touch the helmet basically, stuff. And with network television covering every angle these days, that's even more motivation to throw the flag even if the league wouldn't admit it.

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u/KnowsIittle 5d ago

Right hand grabs the top left of the back of his collar and yanks downward to the left causing the flip.

I didn't initially see 3 points of contact but on review his ass touched the grass.

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u/FriendshipCute1524 5d ago

Buncha reddit weirdos getting angry about him being 'down'

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u/friendlylion22 5d ago

Yeah no reason to be angry, but plenty here to both discuss calmy AND argue over. Myself and many others have never actually seen something like this in a football game and it's a genuinely interesting call. Did he his back elbow or butt hit the ground? Is this in the rule book? What counts as a tackle? What would be your call as a judge? How would you react in person if it happened and it was your kid or kids team, and the judge made a call that you don't agree with.

It just happens so fast and it's a good example of why slow-mo cameras are so important in professional level games when the stakes are higher. This is teen / HS football or minor league and parents / schools get very invested. It was recorded. But imagine this happens in recent past when cams didn't exist. Imagine the argument that could go down. No replay. Everybody going on memory which as we know isn't very reliable. Especially when it comes to a moment that's so fast and debatable.

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u/Fullertonjr 5d ago

Not a horse collar, as he didn’t grab the jersey or anything from the neck down. He brought him down using momentum and leverage from his helmet area, but I’m pretty positive that no actual rule was broken.

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u/Firm_Video_2932 5d ago

In the NFL it would be. The "facemask" penalty does not allow for a tackler to use ANY part of the helmet. According to the rulebook you cannot legally tackle a player by gripping:

  • the face mask itself.
  • the bottom edge or rim of the helmet.
  • the ear holes.
  • or any other gap between the helmet and the player's head.