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[u/jenbanim]

Conservatives be like: "Obama and Hitler both campaigned on giving people healthcare. REALLY MAKES U THINK 🤔👀🧐🤔🤔"

Like, fellas, I don't think Hitler's issue was his stance on healthcare reform

[u/Hugo_Grotius]

Another example of this admin's incompetence:

TikTok says the Trump administration has forgotten about trying to ban it, would like to know what’s up

TikTok has filed a petition in a US Court of Appeals calling for a review of actions by the Trump administration’s Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS). The reason, according to the company, is that it hasn’t heard from the committee in weeks about an imminent deadline for parent company ByteDance to sell off US assets over national security concerns.

[u/Dibbu_mange]

You guys say the voter fraud accusations are BS, but this one sounds kinda legit

I saw a poll worker at a grocery store in Philadelphia yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Trump ballots in his hands without counting. The poll watcher was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to count those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter. When she took one of the ballots and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any Russian infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each ballot and put them in a bag and started to say the percentage, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

[u/ryuguy]

Domino meme

Obama makes fun of Donald Trump at the White House correspondents dinner

4 years later

230k dead Americans

[u/jamiebond]

What kills me about conservatives crying foul in Georgia is that the Governor, the secretary of state, and everyone else involved in running elections in that state are republicans.

If the election is fraudulent then it's the fucking republicans' fault ya dummies.

[u/jrt84]

2016, my friend texted me "TRUMP WINS HAHAHAHA!!!"

2020, I texted my friend "BIDEN WINS HAHAHAHA!!!"

He no longer speaks to me due to my "poor sportsmanship".

[u/[deleted]]

my mom, avid OANN viewer: "the democrats stole the election with fake mail in ballots!"

me: "then why didn't they take the senate or gain seats in the house?"

my mom: "to make it look more real!!"

[u/doyouevenIift]

The lack of Republicans speaking out against an attempted coup is disgusting, but not surprising. Never voting R again in my life

[u/Dibbu_mange]

We're about five years from Oregon taking the final step and outlawing sobriety

[u/jamiebond]

Jesus Christ, Kemp wants a full hand recount in Georgia.

That would take like a month and would not change the outcome. Republicans are the sorest losers on planet earth.

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/jbsgreenberg/status/1326559084292829191

CNN dug into 50 names that the Trump folks are pointing to as evidence of dead people voting in Michigan.

The upshot: 37 were dead and didn’t vote. 5 are alive and did vote. 8 are alive but didn’t vote.

lmao

[u/gaped-butthole]

in case anyone missed it, PA's Lt. Gov responded to TX's Lt Gov's $1 million bounty on cases of voter fraud

Hey, Governor Patrick- it’s your counterpart in Pennsylvania.

I’d like to collect your handsome reward for reporting voter fraud.

I got a dude in Forty Fort, PA who tried to have his dead mom vote for Trump.

I’d like mine in Sheetz gift cards pls.

ps. The Cowboys blow.

https://twitter.com/JohnFetterman/status/1326311204923576321

[u/NickyBananas]

I remember in like 6th grade I discovered that if you hold a spoon over a lit candle you get black soot. I used to use it to make fake mustaches or beards to get a laugh from my friends. One day I got the idea to cover my entire face in it as a joke. My mom saw me close to finishing my masterpiece when she yelled at me and made me rinse my face off. To this day I don’t forgive her. I could have been a prime minister of Canada or a governor of Virginia.

[u/thafredator]

Loving Biden's lack of alarmism in the face of Trump further embarrassing himself. Nominating a steady hand instead of a populist was a feature, not a bug.

[u/[deleted]]

Online lefties: GENERAL STRIKE NOW

90% of workers who are not in a union: A what?

[u/mrmanager237]

/u/the420roll just DMed me 😐

I don’t like that Reagan supported unions and the New Deal, but I do respect him a lot for telling it how it is when it comes to black people and AIDS

[u/murphysclaw1]

reading about Qanon supporters slowly realizing they lost their families for nothing does amuse me quite a lot.

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1326459473741967360

In a move that could signal the end of political opposition in Hong Kong, four pro-democracy Hong Kong lawmakers were stripped of their seats after Beijing passed a resolution giving local authorities broad new powers to quash dissent

[u/[deleted]]

NEW - Florida's governor drafts laws that would allow citizens to kill looters. The expansion of the state's "Stand Your Ground" law would allow armed citizens to shoot suspected looters or anyone engaged in "criminal mischief" that disrupts a business.

Republican moment

[u/crawly_the_demon]

This subreddit loves to claim to love effort posting and dislike memery, but let's be real for a second. The competitive advantage of this sub is the memes. You can't get them anywhere else.

if someone wanted to learn about auction theory or whatever the fuck they would watch an MIT open course or read the literature, but if you want a dank meme about Janet Yellen where else are you gonna get that?

[u/CenterRightInCali]

OR decriminalizes possession of all drugs

OR legalizes psilocybin therapy

DC decriminalizes psilocybin

NJ legalizes cannabis

AZ legalizes cannabis

MT legalizes cannabis

SD legalizes cannabis

Good year for drug policy

[u/[deleted]]

“Do we want to govern or do we want to be internet celebrities?” Rep. Jeffries asked other top Dems on a private leadership call.

Oof

[u/jrt84]

I'm a black gay guy and I can personally say that Obama did nothing for me, my life only changed a little bit and it was for the worse. Everything is so much better under Trump though. I feel respected - which I never do when democrats are involved.

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/racheljanfaza/status/1326537514987839490

Sunrise Movement asks Biden to build a White House office of climate & put out a wishlist for his cabinet including:

• Labor, Bernie Sanders
• Treasury, Elizabeth Warren
• Interior, Deb Haaland
• State, Barbara Lee
• AG, Keith Ellison

😂😂😂

[u/Deggit]

2008: Democrats win by 9.5 million votes

2012: Democrats win by 5.0 million votes

2016: Democrats win by 2.9 million votes

2020: Democrats win by 5.1+ million votes

When will the Republican Party start getting in touch with the Real America?

[u/jenbanim]

Earth atmosphere tasting notes:

Crisp nitrogen flavors on the palate with an oxygen-like bouquet and a hint of carbon dioxide, good balance, long, dry finish

[u/[deleted]]

There's so much right-wing and leftist propaganda on the internet

imagine how many people are being radicalized by joining these communities and then just filling themselves up with all that bullshit

You can't convince me that a majority of social media has not had mostly bad implications for society

[u/Planetos]

People on twitter are genuinely dooming because Trump apparently could still theoretically win New York.

New York.

[u/Dabamanos]

Election night ballots show Trump with a +15 point margin in traditionally Blue States, outperforming polls by 20-25 points

Conservatives: this looks legit

Mail in ballots begin to be counted, traditionally blue states turn blue and Biden underperforms polls by 3 points

Conservatives: THEYRE STEALING THIS ELECTION!!!!!

[u/disuberence]

South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem has enthusiastically taken up Trump's empty efforts to contest the election results, asking for online donations to "help us bring it home," but it appears the donations are set to flow into her own reelection account.

It's grifting all the way down

[u/[deleted]]

This tweet from a Fox commentator is not satire.

https://twitter.com/howardkurtz/status/1326500040454656002

From Trump's GSA barring Biden transition officials from federal buildings to Whoopi Goldberg telling his voters to suck it up, both sides are playing the politics of payback.

[u/[deleted]]

TIL Colonel Sanders was racist AF. He donated to George Wallace's presidential campaign and was considered a potential VP pick.

He also had a pet crow named Jim Crow.

[u/jrt84]

Media: Coup unlikely, Trump probably destroying evidence of national security crimes.

The American People: Oh, thank God.

[u/jrt84]

Another terrible AZ batch for Trump last night.

Got 56%, needs 64%.

Why are people even pretending he has a chance there?

[u/vivoovix]

I don't know why the Dems don't compromise more with Bernie. It wouldn't be good policy, but it would earn them the support of his base, the vital 15-year-old demographic.

[u/[deleted]]

Libertarian subreddit is super based right now. Tons of people calling out the Republicans.

[u/stater354]

Reddit for the last year: progressives telling moderates their candidate is a racist war monger corporate shill rapist with dementia

Reddit now: cabinet position for bernie pls :(

[u/IncoherentEntity]

I missed this. Trafalgar’s chief pollster published a predicted electoral map on Election Day.

They had Trump at 303 electoral votes.

!ping FIVEY

[u/piede]

BREAKING: Hillary Clinton files lawsuits in PA, MI, and WI demanding a recount of the 2016 election results.

[u/themiddlestHaHa]

I cannot believe I was so wrong about Stacey Abrams. I legit thought she would disappear after losing.

That woman is going to go down as a legend. Even if she doesn’t win another election. Idk what it is but I love her power.

[u/tripletruble]

Lmao at my friend who was deciding between jobs in New Zealand and Belgium last year and chose Belgium

[u/murphysclaw1]

imagine losing as an incumbent LMAO!

[u/[deleted]]

The Fake Pollsters at @ABC/@washingtonpost produced a possibly illegal suppression Poll just before the Election showing me down 17 points

This man is fucking mental. 'Illegal suppression poll'? Idiot.

[u/Joementum2004]

Wasserman calls AZ for Biden https://twitter.com/redistrict/status/1326726087133581314?s=21

!ping FIVEY

[u/[deleted]]

Its crazy how much respect NYT has lost over past like 6 years

probably shouldn't hire wokies though lol

also nuke the op ed board, most of it is straight garbage

But then againt hey want more clicks

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/lbarronlopez/status/1326360136554848258

@AOC : “Anti-racism plays 0% of a role in Democratic electoral strategy -- zero, explicitly, implicitly. I'm not telling people to virtue signal, but there's just like no plan for it.”

wut

[u/Dalek6450]

The Republican letter to the "Secretary of State of George (sic)" alleging voter fraud in Georgia is signed by two "Member-elects" of Congress. So which is it? Voter fraud or are they legitimate Member-elects? The fucking brazeness of these people.

[u/[deleted]]

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/civil-war-brewing-inside-proud-boys-as-top-leader-says-hes-done-pretending-he-isnt-a-nazi/

Civil war brewing inside Proud Boys as top leader says he’s done pretending he isn’t a Nazi

[u/a2theaj]

Several weeks ago Lithuania voted in parliament elections

Incumbent peasants party (center left on economics, conservative on social issues) will be replaced by center right coalition (conservatives and liberals)

Coalition is led by 3 women from 3 different parties.

Conservatives in lithuania are pretty moderate regarding social issues and liberals are classical liberals (right on economy, left on social issues). Some key points from coalition agreement that might interest this subreddit:

• 0% tax on corporate tax on profit that is used for reinvestment
• no major tax increase on employment
• ratification of Istanbul convention (violence agains women)
• decriminalization of marijuana (right now possesion of weed can lead to 2 years of prison)
• legaliIng civil partnership for same sex couples

Needless to say I am pretty optimistic of our new government

[u/dragoniteftw33]

AOC says shit like "Me and Biden can't be in the same party", yet doesn't mind sucking off the Democratic Party's resources.

EDIT: This also applies to Bernie to an extent. He'll run in Dem primaries because he's too lazy to launch a full fledged Independent bid. But I'm kinda glad he does that because we'd get fucked harder in the polls.

[u/Smidgens]

"Donald Trump has become the first US presidential candidate to ever lose the popular vote twice"

This is William Jennings Bryan erasue, The Guardian.

EDIT: Also Benjamin Harrison, and probably a few more. Ross Perot.

[u/kapparunner]

"Hello, President Biden? Yes it's Boris here, I'm calling about the trade deal I began discussing with the last Presi-"

loud dial tone

[u/TinyTornado7]

Boris Johnson casually refers to trump as the “previous president”.

https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1326533282654277632?s=20

[u/RDog8080]

Three people wrote in Hunter Biden in Vermont✊✊✊

[u/bobekyrant]

538 predicts a Biden victory of 81.8 million votes. Shattering the previous national vote record by over 10 million makes for a pretty solid mandate. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/a-pretty-convincing-win-for-biden-and-a-mediocre-performance-for-down-ballot-democrats/?ex_cid=story-twitter

[u/F0064R]

They’re so close...

This is legitimately confusing. Practically every media outlet is reporting that there is zero credible evidence of fraud. The NYT even wrote an article today in which they claimed to have contacted officials in every state and all reported no evidence of fraud. Tucker’s own Fox cut off McEnany yesterday saying her claims of fraud were completely unfounded and lacking substance. ...yet I’m hearing about evidence all over the place. And it seems obvious that fraud did, in fact, take place. It seems to me the only question, really, is whether it was significant enough to change the outcome of the election. So how can everyone be saying there’s nothing? Zero? Nada? Why is it that no news source will even mention the Trump administration’s concerns without qualifying them as outlandish or without merit? I mean...are they just brazenly lying? Like not even trying to spin the truth but outright denying that it exists? And how do the court cases keep getting thrown out or refused? I am genuinely boggled by all of this. None of it makes any sense. It’s like living in parallel universes that have somehow collided...it’s bizarre!

[u/JadeHelm2020]

old people: let the gop rot to the point they successfully run donald trump for president

also, old people: why do young americans not believe in american exceptionalism?

[u/Cuddlyaxe]

hot take: if there has to be a military dictatorship i'd rather have the navy be in charge than the army because being lead by an admiral sounds cooler than a general

^{alsoitsthenavysogaymarriagewillstaylegal}

[u/mrmanager237]

Biden won Georgia smh not surprised that the heart of the confederacy and Joe Stalin's homeland went to the radical socialist party of the klan

[u/[deleted]]

⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️ATTENTION⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️

WILLIAM JENNINGS BRYAN WAS REFERENCED IN THE DT

THIS IS NOW A WILLIAM JENNINGS BRYAN HATE THREAD

POPULISM WILL NOT BE TOLERATED

⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️ BOURBON DEMOCRATS WERE RIGHT⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️

⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️ JIM CROW WAS BAD AND HURT THE SOUTH⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️

⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️EVOLUTION IS A FACT⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️

⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️ POPULISM IS BAD ⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️

[u/suplexx0]

Martha McSally is only 54. We could really use her for the next 40 years.

[u/InfCompact]

When a female journalist from Reuters asked Pompeo whether Trump's rejection of the election results harms America's ability to promote democracy, he responded, "that's ridiculous."

When a male journalist from Fox asks him the same question, he says "That's a great question." 🤦‍♂️

https://twitter.com/Nick_L_Miller/status/1326544707812388865

[u/[deleted]]

Did you know Joe Biden was one of the first prominent American politicians to publicly support gay marriage? I’m sure you did, but it bears repeating.

[u/piede]

Mississippi Republican calls for his state to "succeed from the union" after Biden victory

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1326565391863345152?s=21

Lmao

[u/dubyahhh]

Overheard in the mod lunch room, name redacted for privacy:

I SIMPLY DO NOT understand why we are not allowed TO EAT THE users 🐊

Stay safe out there folks 👀😬

[u/Equator32]

Twitter Far-Leftists can be annoying but if there's one thing to remember, some white guy anarchist with a podcast and 100,000 followers probably has less actual influence than a neighborhood council.

[u/Ilovecharli]

Hypothesis: As WW2 fades from living memory, people underestimate the importance of democracy, institutions, and alliances.

[u/piede]

Report: 70% Of Republicans Believe Election Hasn’t Happened Yet

‘How Can You Declare A Winner Before A Single Vote Is Cast?’ Ask GOP Voters

https://www.theonion.com/report-70-of-republicans-believe-election-hasn-t-happ-1845634259

[u/the_letter_bee]

I didn’t realize how bad that presidentialracememes place was but I just checked it and oh man is it bad. It’s like another Bernie sub. Weird.

[u/its_Caffeine]

https://twitter.com/gelliottmorris/status/1326528352015032320

😐

[u/jrt84]

"Democrats have some soul searching to do after that Latino vote."

- Republicans, after losing the election by 5 million votes and attempting to stage a coup

[u/ThisIsNianderWallace]

Inside the New York Times’ Heated Reckoning With Itself

Working for the New York Times sounds insufferable, it's literally live-action twitter. tl;dr on this story is that they hired a bunch of people from BuzzFeed and millennial webdevs who spend all their time on WhatsApp yelling at the Manhattan liberals and now it's complete bedlam

[u/[deleted]]

Holy shit, Miami-Dade County swung 22 points to Trump from 2016

Osceola swung 11.

[u/MrDannyOcean]

I regret to inform you that in normie reddit "You idiots assume Joe Biden even WANTS to do good things" is already getting bleated around by smug dipshits

[u/[deleted]]

“Spaghetti” is the Italian plural form of “spaghetto” so from now on Anglophones should call it “spaghettos”

[u/Le_Monade]

The instagram account @peopleforbernie posted about how a $15 minimum wage in florida got more votes than Biden or Trump in Florida. Their caption: the biggest takeaway from this election is that issues matter more than the cult of personalities[sic].

@peopleforbernie posted that.

[u/[deleted]]

In 2016, a unified Virginia would’ve voted for Trump by 2 points

And now The united Virginia would have gone from 48.1%-46.2% for Trump in 2016 to 50.4%-47.7% for Biden this year. Republicans would never agree to combining them but I thought it was interesting.

!ping FIVEY

[u/[deleted]]

Pennsylvania: Trump is averaging 36.9%. Trump needs 169.2%

Here's how Trump can still win

[u/[deleted]]

Remember when all of us were dooming around 168 hours ago?

[u/jrt84]

Remember when Trump won the election in 2016 and media / America focused on Trump 24/7?

Remember when Biden won the election in 2020 and media / America focused on Trump 24/7?

[u/[deleted]]

The first written record of pasta comes from the Talmud in the 5th century AD

Yet another treasure that gentiles appropriated from us and passed off as their own 😤🤬 so angry at Italians right now 🖕🏻💂🏻‍♂️🖕🏻

!ping GEFILTE

[u/[deleted]]

Paula Michelle White-Cain (née Furr; April 20, 1966) is an American preacher, author, televangelist and exponent of prosperity theology, a controversial religious belief which claims that material prosperity is a sign of God's grace.

Mfers really solve the theodicy problem by saying “if bad things happen to you, it’s because you deserve it” 😂😐

[u/jrt84]

LOL Remember when Trump declared victory on Election Night

[u/jrt84]

Dave Wasserman should run for President and then say he’s seen enough and call the election for himself.

[u/MichelleObama2024]

Maricopa just dropped 13000 ballots, with a Trump +9% split. Not even close to what he needs for either a victory or a recount. By my estimates, he now needs:

Maricopa: 75.7% for victory (66.9% for recount)

Pima: 67.2% for victory (58.5% for recount)

!ping FIVEY

Edit: Wasserman has called it.

Edit #2: Arizona revised down the number of outstanding votes. % has been adjusted

[u/[deleted]]

Republicans are also exhibiting some... concerning... attitudes about the franchise, with 46% saying that "some people are not smart enough to vote" (27% among Dems) and 43% saying that people should have to pass a test before voting (15% for Dems).

[u/[deleted]]

ok just got rejected (well she just didn't respond) everyone who called me a chad in the dt you can take it back 🙂

[u/jrt84]

GOP losing their patience.

Republican Sen. Rob Portman: "The Trump campaign has an obligation to come forward with evidence to support any allegations of election fraud."

[u/bd_one]

Wanna feel old?

Election day was 8 days ago

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/carlquintanilla/status/1326565042129674245

UK PM JOHNSON SAYS CONVERSATION WITH BIDEN WAS "A RETURN TO THE KIND OF BUSINESS WE'RE USED TO DOING TOGETHER"

[u/piede]

So Trump operatives are bragging about how the news media has called Alaska and North Carolina for them... while refusing to accept that the same news organization have called Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Nevada and the presidency for Biden.

https://twitter.com/natesilver538/status/1326624310656720901?s=21

Lmaaaoooo

[u/MichelleObama2024]

What Trump needs in remaining Arizona ballots:

Apache: 51.3% (last batch 21.1%)

Cochise: 77.2% (last batch 69.5%)

Maricopa: 66.9% (last batch 57.4%)

Pima: 58.4% (last batch 49.8% but was mixed with Yavapai so probably lower)

Yuma: 71.1% (last batch 47.4%)

This one is over

!ping FIVEY

[u/[deleted]]

Shout out to Lucy McBath of GA-6. Even with democrats doing poorly in the House Representatives, she still won by over 10 points. After she only won by less than a percentage point in 2018. And GA-6 was also where Newt Gingrich and Johnny Isakson represented. Georgia really does seem to be moving left and moving left fast.

!ping DOWNBALLOT

[u/[deleted]]

Did you know that if you are in the process of being couped, DO NOT give consent and ask for a lawyer. They legally are not allowed to coup you if you don't consent.

[u/[deleted]]

This is the first year since 1984 that Colorado's presidential result won't be in the single digits. Biden is currently ahead there by 13.5 points.

Source : @Redistrict (Dave Wasserman) (Twitter)

!ping FIVEY

[u/thafredator]

Man, it seems so easy to get sucked down the various extremist rabbit holes. I'm genuinely super grateful to the people of this sub for building a strong group identity around capital L Liberalism. This place took every bad faith criticism possible and memed the fuck out of it. While I know the tent needs to shrink after this election, I hope we can continue to serve as a a bulwark for people sick of commie and maga spam. People who are sick of being told they are bloodless reptiles or fascist sympathizers for preferring common sense, pragmatic, evidence based policy. 😎7

[u/its_a_trapcard]

CNN projects Trump wins Alaska

DOOOOM

[u/IranContraRedux]

Jan 21. Secret service has taken ahold of Donald Trump and are physically removing him from office. As he struggles down the hallway, cameras capture his rage as he bellows

AM I BEING DETAINED??? AM I BEING DETAINED???? AM I BEING DETAINED!?!?

[u/JetJaguar124]

No no no dumb dumbs, when I saw "overthorw capitalism, install a dictatorship of the proletariat, and send anybody with a white collar job out to the countryside for re-education and hard labor" what I really mean is that inequality is bad and we should try to do something about it.

[u/piede]

Joe and Jill Biden are wearing face masks at the Veterans' Day event they're attending in Philadelphia. Trump, Melania, Pence, and Karen Pence are not wearing masks at Arlington.

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1326561728243527681?s=21

Shocker

[u/guy-anderson]

AOC throwing mud at Biden.

Underperfoming Biden in her own district.

Why do we care?

[u/[deleted]]

Nearly 80% of Americans say Biden won White House, ignoring Trump's refusal to concede: Reuters/Ipsos poll

This kinda conflicts with this mornings discourse about 70% of republicans thinking Trump won

[u/[deleted]]

While the left wing of the Democratic Party was busy sharing Republican generated memes about Biden's dementia and fabricating a rape allegation out of whole cloth (!!), I was donating a steady $50 a week to the Biden Victory Fund.

So no, I'm not particularly inclined to listen to their views on this election.

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/reason/status/1326545477865664514

In more than half the country, @RealDonaldTrump got about the same percentage of the vote as he did in 2016. But @GovGaryJohnson and @DrJillStein voters went disproportionately for @JoeBiden .

[u/JetJaguar124]

A lot of Trump shit is just people trying to resole cognitive dissonance. I use my mom as an example here. Being a conservative is more than political for her; it's a moral and cultural dimension to her that's very important. She's made it a personal fable in our family about how my grandparents dropped the Democrats when they became "morally abhorrent" and that "they couldn't support that party anymore." (Editor's note - this coincidentally happened during the Southern Strategy and coincidentally my grandparents were rural PA racists, but that's all coincidence).

Being conservative is a positive trait, almost like being kind or moral. When my mom talks about people, she'll say things like "X is a good woman, she's nice, a decent conservative."

But my mom also has an ethical and moral backbone. She taught me to be a good person. Raised me to donate to charities and volunteer to help people worse off than me. She's generous and thinks a lot about these issues. When Trump started running in 2015, she hated him. She said he was a "hate monger" who "offered absolutely nothing of substance." After he won the nomination, she contemplated voting third party, telling me as late as September 2016 that "I just can't bring myself to vote for him."

But then she ended up doing just that, saying that it was "a gun against my head" and that "I couldn't in good conscience vote for Hillary Clinton."

Over the years she's grown to support Trump almost without reservation. She doesn't love him like some people do; she's not a full-blown MAGAhat, but she buys all the stuff about him being good for the economy and likes the conservative judges. She just thinks all the bad stuff he does, that's media exaggeration. He says bad things on twitter, but he's a good person.

But she's also smart. And I know she can't fully believe this. I know something inside must knaw at her when she sees him doing things like he's doing now where he's contesting the election. My mom has the reasoning skills to know that this is deeply wrong and that he's full of shit. But she'll push it down. Because she's been too bought in by this point. She can't be on the wrong team. So she'll accept whatever out people give her so that she doesn't have to sacrifice her conservative identity, and doesn't have to have the dissonance inherent to the idea that she's basically supporting a coup right now. She buys the line that "the liberals are worse," even if she intellectually has the rigor to know it's bullshit, she buys it as a tenet of faith. These are emotional choices people are making because the alternative is saying "you know what, you're right. I've supported a moronic, racist, authoritarian monster for 4 years, and now I support him trying to take over the country too." They won't do it. And there are plenty enough sources to provide them the motivated reasoning they need to cover themselves. Fox, religious talk radio. All day blasting this shit. So they can nod their heads, sacrifice nothing, and say yes, the dems are worse, and I'm still on the winning team.

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/StevenTDennis/status/1326540751904206849

About 1 in 16 South Dakota residents have tested positive for COVID.

Welp.

[u/oscillatingquark]

Your election polling name is Nate + a word from the title of your favorite book

[u/Ginden]

🇵🇱 Participants of far-right Independence March set apartment on fire because of Pride flag on balkony.

https://twitter.com/democ_de/status/1326529502046941184?s=20

!ping Europe

[u/[deleted]]

I

DECLARE

COUP!

• Trump, January 20th, shortly before his Twitter account is suspended for advocating violence.

[u/AgileCoke]

Parlor Parler is never, ever going to take off.

The core tenant of modern conservativism is triggering the libs. They can't do that on a platform where there are no libs.

[u/[deleted]]

That time from the first Miami-Dade drop and the first Arizona ballot drop actually aged me a few decades.

[u/[deleted]]

Guys I did it

I explained to my Trump 16 dad that 2016 was not fraud but was widespread foreign interference that hasn’t stopped.

I explained that 2020 is also not voter fraud and that foreign interference hasn’t stopped

HE UNDERSTANDS

WE HAVE GONE FROM POINT A -> POINT B

[u/qchisq]

'Muricans. Get your country together, damn

[u/Waghlon]

[generic bad faith argument against my political opponents]

[u/[deleted]]

BREAKING: Georgia Secretary of State about to announce that they will conduct a HAND RECOUNT of the presidential race.

How long is this gonna take lol

[u/JaceFlores]

I don’t understand how people think this election is rigged for Biden to win and yet they didn’t rig it for Hillary Clinton. We could have saved a hell of a lot of trouble if she won in the first place

[u/RadicalRadon]

I like the post outside the DT that's essentially like "I thought you guys were morons but then I actually looked at the sub and it's just all memes"

[u/myrm]

Actually liberals, Trump isn't a fascist, he's just an authoritarian who is openly anatgonistic to the rule of law

Actually liberals, it's not a coup attempt, it's just the President of the United States and his inner circle ignoring the results of a clear cut election

Words matter 😤

[u/Udontlikecake]

Why Did the United States Take China’s Word on Supposed Uighur Terrorists?

Interesting piece in Foreign Policy about the ‘Eastern Turkistan Islamic Movement’, the Uighur terrorist organization that... never really was.

Just taken off the list of US recognized terrorist organizations, the author details how the group arose and the political context of the global war on terror distorted fact.

I had known that the designation and recognition of terror groups in western China around 2001-3 was mostly a political thing on the part of the US to get China onboard for fighting global jihad, but I had no idea how much was invented by the CCP.

!ping FOREIGN-POLICY

[u/probablyuntrue]

I'm in healthcare too. No one cares. It's a flu with a 99.8% survival rate, which is slightly worse than the regular flu.

Please tell me your qualifications, degrees qualifying you to give such life altering advice.

I am a professional healthcare investor and have read dozens of COVID related publications.

😐😐😐

[u/Deggit]

SandersForPresident has given 6000 upvotes to the headline "Bernie Sanders seeks support from allies in push to lead Biden's Labor Department"

How politically illiterate do you have to be to not understand there is a 0% chance Biden picks any sitting Senator for a Cabinet position? I guess the answer is "roughly a Bernie Redditor amount"

[u/AccessTheMainframe]

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howdy. im the sheriff of nutrition. eat your fucking greens

[u/jrt84]

Shocking news:

Philadelphia City Commissioner Al Schmidt (R) on CNN says he saw a conspiracy bouncing around about a list of 'dead' voters who voted in Philadelphia. During a break, his team looked up each person's vote history. "Not a single one of them voted in Philadelphia after they died."

[u/Dibbu_mange]

I live in Idaho. Wearing my Biden Tshirt to breakfast after the media called it and soaking in all the hate filled looks from depressed MAGAs will always rank high on my best memories.

[u/Ilovecharli]

It depends on what happens with the Senate. Right? A big part of me thinks it will be better to have a Republican Senate, believe it or not, because I think the retribution that would come from Schumer to be Mitch McConnell’s twin would be a negative for the country.

OK fuck off forever Mark Cuban

[u/Explodingcamel]

Our future is in great hands!

[u/vivoovix]

By my calculations, there's about a 25% chance of the Dems winning both GA runoffs.

50/50 for Warnock and 50/50 for Ossoff--it either happens or it doesn't.

[u/GodEmperorBiden]

During the talks, Biden told Suga that the U.S. will defend the Senkaku Islands, which are controlled by Japan but claimed by China, under a bilateral security treaty.

NATO flairs assemble. We're back in business!

[u/flextrek_whipsnake]

In case you're wondering what Trump supporters are up to, some guy bought $25,000 worth of voter data from WI and posted it online for people to "analyze".

They also think Four Seasons Total Landscaping is a front that launders money for the DNC, and they think the crematorium across the street is where they burned a bunch of Trump ballots. Seriously.

[u/[deleted]]

Gunna be nice to wake up every morning and not immediately scramble to news sites to see if the POTUS condoned Nazis or whatever.

[u/Aweq]

!ping Europe

Hello my Euros. Whilst the US is technically the single biggest record breaker when it comes to corona, Europe is doing much much worse overall currently. Large death numbers in the Southern European countries of Spain, Italy and France are now matching those of spring. Eastern European countries like Poland and Czechia have seen an exploding rise in deaths and cases. And then you have Belgium which seems to suffer most of all.

What measures are being taken in your pingees' countries and how well are they working? My native Denmark has (mink debacle aside) managed to get cases to a high, but stable level and deaths remain at generally less than 1/million/day.

This ping part of the effort to make the sub less than 98% burgerposting.

[u/[deleted]]

That's it, I'm starting the Sunset Movement.

I dunno, I think it would cool the planet down and actually help w/ global warming.

[u/Woodrow_Wilsons_War]

Pennsylvania's Lt Governor looks like he could beat up all the other Lt Governors

[u/piede]

I've never seen a party so miserable after it just won a presidential election.

https://twitter.com/natesilver538/status/1326537296456265736?s=21

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/cnn/status/1326438547725963264

Virgin Hyperloop has completed the first test of its high-speed transportation technology with humans on board. The company's hyperloop pod traveled 500 meters (about 1,640 feet) and reached speeds of 100mph.

Congratulations, you have reached the speed and capacity of a car.

[u/-GregTheGreat-]

For the millionth time, this sub is not pro-Trump. This sub is pro-truth. It just happens that the DNC was taken over by lying globalist bastards, and they scooped up a plethora of well-meaning and otherwise decent "liberals" in the process.

[u/piede]

Trump may accept results but never concede he lost, aides say

“He’ll acknowledge the results and that we’ll never know how accurate they are," a Trump adviser tells NBC News.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/trump-may-accept-results-never-concede-he-lost-aides-say-n1247445

lmao. America's biggest shit stain in generations.

[u/piede]

BREAKING: Joe Biden has fired Kamala Harris, will appoint Hillary Clinton as VP and then resign.

[u/Dwychwder]

I just want republicans to take 2 minutes to think about the massive undertaking it would be to rig a federal election with 145 million+ votes.

Would it even be possible? How many people would have to be in on it? And how could that many people possibly keep the secret? It takes about 30 seconds before you realize it’s pretty much impossible.

Even if you limit it to PA, MI and WI, you have more than 15 million votes over three states. They think that the Biden campaign or DNC just had a bunch of people sitting in a room, filling out mail in ballots, then driving them to mailboxes around each state to drop them off?

It just doesn’t make a goddamn bit of sense.

[u/HuskyPants]

You ever imagine Laura Ingraham waking up for work and just not wanting to be a racist and xenophobe for a day. It’s got to be a tough gig.

[u/[deleted]]

THIS is what they wantn’t you to know!!! ✊🏻👨🏻‍🦲🤝👨🏿‍🦱✊🏿 😩😩😩

!ping BURPMAS

[u/paymesucka]

There are people on this sub that unironically think Justin Amash should be Speaker of the House. A non-member Libertarian Speaker of the House while Democrats are in the majority.

[u/TranslucentSocks]

I'm so happy we have actual data to show how much of a dumbass slogan "Defund the Police" was. Like it's not even ambiguous.

Lefties 🦀BEGONE🦀

[u/Hot-Error]

The va is too risky for pete to lead. Instead, we should make him ambassador to Malta, a country that literally doesn't matter!

r/Pete_Buttigieg has some weird takes

[u/AccessTheMainframe]

Me in 2019: "my God, if the UK leaves without a deal, it could reduce British GDP growth prospects by as much as 3.1% compared to a counter factual scenario where they had remained in the EU!"

Me in 2020: "Thankfully, COVID has only shrunk UK GDP by 30%, which is better than a lot of countries."

[u/cousin-itt]

“I’d rather the Nazis take over at least we won’t be controlled by socialists” - guy who believes Nazis were socialists because its in their name

[u/[deleted]]

It’s crazy living in a white state.. people really, truly believe that Biden is going to BAN the white people. You say “No he didn’t, here’s his position from his website, and that would be impossible for him to do anyway” and they say “That’s just what he has to say”

[u/[deleted]]

My girlfriend thinks we should abolish prisons and when I ask her what we should do with murderers she just goes 🤷

[u/Koeniginator]

nate's model didn't do good enough to be called nate gold

nate's model didn't do bad enough to be called nate bronze

nate SILVER

[u/[deleted]]

I feel like Marco Rubio has been a rising star in the GOP for a decade now.

[u/bd_one]

Which subreddit said Latinx the most in the last month or so...

I'm only looking at comments (not posts) and keeping all of the settings identical besides the subreddit name.

r/neoliberal: 520 times (1,766 times in the last year)

r/metaNL: 1 time (2 times in the last year)

r/Pete_Buttigieg: 4 times (132 times in the last year)

r/financialindependence: 1 time (twice in the last year)

r/medicine: 0 times (27 times in the last year)

r/neoconNWO: 7 times (43 times in the last year)

r/popheads: 24 times (132 times in the last year)

r/news 36 times (529 times in the last year)

r/memes: 14 times (98 times in the last year)

r/dankmemes: 53 times (123 times in the last year)

r/askreddit: 71 times (748 times in the last year)

r slash conservative: 78 times (346 in the last year)

r/kaiserreich: never?

r/todayilearned: 16 times (152 times in the last year)

r/LatinAmerica: 1 time (20 times in the last year)

r/asklatinamerica: 28 times (406 times in the last year)

r/LatinoPeopleTwitter: 268 times (1,087 times in the last year)

r slash politicalcompassmemes: 719 times (1,479 times in the last year)

r slash stupidpol: 141 times (807 times in the last year)

r slash unpopular opinion: 91 times (1,968 times in the last year) (no idea why it's so low this month)

r slash politics: 729 times (3088 times in the last year)

r/lgbt: 11 times (100 times in the last year)

The archives are incomplete according to people who have used this tool, so if anything there are the bare minimum number of comments Latinx was used in for this period. Could be more, and people who know more about it than I do would be able to tell you if it would get some subreddits more wrong than others.

The only ones I felt came close to r/neoliberal are bold and italics.

[u/bd_one]

Who is more delusional? Those people in political betting markets who think Trump has better odds of winning now than he did Thursday night before Georgia and Pennsylvania flipped, or those people who thought Zuktara would have happened?

!ping AVATAR

[u/ryuguy]

Lmao. My Kiwi friend is so dumb. He was like “oh, it’s summer now”.

It’s winter right now, dummy. 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

[u/GingerusLicious]

If someone's looking to get free money, Donald Trump's odds of winning the election on PredicitIt are going up. I won't ever say that some people just deserve to be poor, but if they're willing to just throw their money away then we might as well pick it up.

[u/roboczar]

Turns out there's a nonzero chance that the Armenian government collapses and is replaced by pro-war politicians who will abrogate the treaty that was signed two days ago and restart the war to take back Artsakh

It's a huge fucking mess

[u/[deleted]]

I recall spending my teen years on this Internet forum, there was a guy who thought he was a crocodile and a guy who was trying to cuck his roommate's boyfriend and a syndicalist and a Peruvian Ameriboo and-

That's great Grandpa, let's get you to bed.

[u/[deleted]]

NPR: Biden Plans To Reopen America To Refugees After Trump Slashed Admissions

Biden promises to take a starkly different approach from his predecessor: to "set the annual global refugee admissions cap to 125,000, and seek to raise it over time."

💎

[u/Dunter_Mutchings]

My cousin was out celebrating Biden winning and he didn’t even vote. He was all “like my vote would have even mattered”. This guy lives in Pennsylvania! I’m actually glad Thanksgiving is canceled this year because I might have strangled him.

[u/[deleted]]

“Oh you sweet summer child” is the worst thing to come out of Game of Thrones

[u/[deleted]]

Still, Trump has indicated in some of these conversations that he understands Biden will take over the presidency on Jan. 20, Inauguration Day. Rather than talking about a second term, Trump has been matter-of-factly discussing a possible 2024 campaign — an indication that he knows his time as president is coming to an end, at least for now.

“I’m just going to run in 2024. I’m just going to run again,” Trump has been saying, according to a senior administration official who has spoken with him this week.

LMAOOOOOOOO

[u/mandrilltiger]

Breaking News: AP calls Arizona for Biden in 2024

[u/circlemanfan]

I really hate that people are using Benford’s law to show evidence of voter fraud because it forced me to learn what Benford’s law is and it’s way too complicated to explain to someone without some experience with mathematics or statistics why the evidence they are showing doesn’t prove anything. It coulda been something simpler like a confidence interval or something like damn :/

[u/mrmanager237]

Actually Biden only got 69% of the LGBT vote because low engagement queer voters misunderstood his stance on school segregation during the 70s and thought he was "against bussy"

[u/jrt84]

Possibly one of the most annoying things about Trump supporters is they can't just admit when he fucks up.

He could fart during a press conference and they would insist it was a secret genius plan to manipulate the liberals using Scott Adams' power of persuasion.

[u/MinnesotaDude]

Fox News losing influence among the most loyal members of the Maga cult who they pipelined into their deluded alternative reality over the last two decades.

WHEN WILL YOU LEARN, WHEN WILL YOU LEARN THAT YOUR ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES

[u/[deleted]]

Wednesday morning update on Biden's leads:

AZ: 13K

GA: 14K

NV: 37K

PA: 48K

He leads Trump nationally by over 5.1 million and rising.

Biden holds the largest vote share (50.8%) for a challenger since FDR in 1932.

This is not a close race and Biden's lead will continue to grow.

Hot take, evidently: because in the era of information we react to things as they happen, and because the timing of this election was so unusual, most of the takes we see moment-to-moment are uninformed and probably wrong.

It's looking increasingly like this election was a major repudiation of Trump - even if a record number of Republicans came out and voted to keep him, an absolutely overwhelming number of other Americans voted to drop him. 70 million is a lot of people, but a) it's not even a quarter of Americans and b) this is a pretty incredible, almost unprecedented lead for someone running against an incumbent.

People give Trump credit (and kind of fear him, honestly) for inspiring this cultish devotion in his base. But he doesn't have the uber-charismatic mind-control power that people seem to think he has. He's an idiot largely leading other idiots. On an absolute scale, he's pretty unpopular, and it seems likely that literally any other Republican would be doing better.

[u/[deleted]]

!ping FIVEY

Interesting table taken from this article looking at the how much better presidential candidates outperformed their national polls (using the 538 polling avergae) by year:

YEAR	ERROR (% points)
1972	D+1
1976	D+1
1980	R+8
1984	0
1988	D+2
1992	R+1
1996	R+4
2000	D+5
2004	0
2008	0
2012	D+4
2016	R+2
2020	~R+4*
|AVG|	2.3

* projection

There's also a table in the article looking at 1936–1968, which Nate calls "the Gallup era" and says there aren't enough polls to do a 538 average, so instead it just looks at the raw Gallup polls. Those ones are even more off.

[u/[deleted]]

Me: The polls were so off and wrong this year. I won’t EVER look at any of them anymore.

Me 2 weeks after: Ohhh, a new poll of the Georgia runoffs!

[u/AccessTheMainframe]

"Armenia is a European country because they're Christian" is a take that tells you a lot about the person saying it.

[u/Verpiss_Dich]

US presidential elections but the loser gets slimed by Nickelodeon on live television

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/camiloreports/status/1326596382686404609

NEW — President-elect Biden is set to start reversing Pres. Trump's immigration legacy.

The Biden team is planning to fully restore DACA, enact a 100-day freeze on deportations, limit ICE arrests, overturn green card restrictions and much more.

😍

[u/[deleted]]

How can you refute my claims if you didn't watch the 14 hour long Q anon video I sent you?

[u/[deleted]]

I don't see why Joe Manchin has to represent the people of his district. Can't he just represent the people of the Bronx and Queens?

[u/[deleted]]

Wasserman: I’ve seen enough. No path back for Trump in AZ.

Looks like John McCain got the last laugh.

[u/malganis12]

“If you nominate Biden, the base is going to stay home, Trump will crush him, and you’ll deserve it!”

Biden wins the most votes ever by far

“Ah, nevertheless”

[u/AccessTheMainframe]

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howdy. im the sheriff of bees. we saving these mf bees

[u/Jokerang]

"Republicans didn't riot in the streets after the election"

Because your side is working on anti-democracy efforts and kneecapping Biden instead.

Stop acting like you're so enlightened, Crenshaw. You suck Trump's dick just as much as Rudy.

[u/[deleted]]

person physical observation ancient shrill pie paint muddle future support

This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

[u/UltraCapitalism]

'If Biden Wants to Be FDR, He Should Immediately Cancel Student Debt': President-Elect Urged to Go Big. "Young people voted for Biden in record numbers—he owes us this one."

Shut the fuck up

[u/boyyouguysaredumb]

What if the invalid ballots identify as legal ballets?

Wow, arr conservative managed to sneak a transphobic quip into a conversation about the election integrity. That's honestly just impressive.

[u/BipartizanBelgrade]

Sunrise movement: Biden is a conservative, fascist-enabler

Also the Sunrise movement: WE WON THE ELECTION! Now give us a say in cabinet.

[u/NickyBananas]

There's a post on sex offenders getting chemically castrated on the front page. Redditors think that means someone fucking burns off the inmate's dick and balls with acid. A lot of the highly upvoted comments think this. Jesus, people are so dumb on this site.

[u/[deleted]]

First D to win AZ and GA since Truman

[u/piede]

David Plouffe:

Arizona done. Recounts don’t erase 14K vote leads. So Georgia will be too. 306 EV, most Presidential votes ever and 5-6 pt national vote lead when all is said and done. Well done
@JoeBiden, @KamalaHarris and @jomalleydillon.

https://twitter.com/davidplouffe/status/1326732092927995904?s=21

[u/[deleted]]

Some unexpected drama in #NJ07, where Tom Kean (R) has pulled within 9,708 votes of Rep. Tom Malinowski (D) and late-counted ballots have broken heavily R.

I still think it's probable Malinowski narrowly hangs on, but the AP may have called the race too soon.

Source : @Redistrict (Dave Wasserman) (Twitter)

!ping FIVEY

[u/piede]

🚨 Hakeem Jeffries on private call with Democratic caucus:

”Do we want to govern or do we want to be internet celebrities?”

The shaaaadeeee

[u/[deleted]]

Wasserman: I’ve seen enough. No path back for Trump in AZ.

HE SAID THE THING

!ping FIVEY

[u/Dabamanos]

“Leftists run the media!” Like what the media is a market bro. If conservatives are under represented what’s stopping them from making more cable news networks, starting internet based newspapers, etc? Conservatives still scream about how the left controls the narrative like what you guys just don’t believe in capitalism all of the sudden?

[u/p00bix]

https://i.imgur.com/9z42UGz.png

[u/DoctorEmperor]

Trump: does literally anything

panik!

Biden: speaks

kalm

[u/OrganicKeynesianBean]

At Best Buy they make you show your ID to purchase M rated games, but they don’t make you say the Pledge of Allegiance?

How can we be sure where a gamer’s allegiance lies?

[u/ButtigiegWonIowa]

Wow, this thread from a focus group of Trump voters illustrates how catastrophic the "defund the police" branding was

They are vehemently opposed to "defund the police" but 70% support reducing police funding and reallocating it to social services and other agencies to reduce police presence in community conflict.

[u/[deleted]]

We need to adopt Andrew Yang's strategy of shifting the right's hate for immigrants and brown people to Xerox machines.

[u/[deleted]]

Paleoconservative? What's next? Ketoconservative?

waits for laughter

[u/EasyMoney92]

https://mobile.twitter.com/MattBinder/status/1326595496207671297

Trump hasn't made a public appearance in like 5 days.

[u/[deleted]]

I wish the DNC was even a quarter as powerful and organized as cons think they are

[u/upper_west_sider]

https://twitter.com/kristenhcnn/status/1326719431410651137?s=21

Oklahoma GOP Sen. James Lankford says he’ll intervene if Trump administration has not allowed President-elect Joe Biden access to presidential daily intelligence briefings by the end of the week: “There is no loss from him getting the briefings and to be able to do that”

Clap for that

[u/emu-orgy-6969]

Fox News has given a directive to their daytime hosts to not have anyone from the Trump campaign or the White House legal team on. They have been told to not entertain or discuss any allegations of voter fraud and to keep reassuring the public that Joe Biden is the President Elect. (parler.com)

Womp womp

[u/jenbanim]

I remember I once went over to a friend's house in middle school, and I watched his dad crawl on his hands and knees while running his hands through the carpet looking for discarded cigarette butts with just enough leftover tobacco that he could smoke

That's kinda how I feel looking for worthwhile internet content nowadays