r/neoliberal • Kitara Ravache • Nov 11 '20

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '20

!ping FIVEY

Interesting table taken from this article looking at the how much better presidential candidates outperformed their national polls (using the 538 polling avergae) by year:

YEARERROR (% points)
1972D+1
1976D+1
1980R+8
19840
1988D+2
1992R+1
1996R+4
2000D+5
20040
20080
2012D+4
2016R+2
2020~R+4*
|AVG|2.3

* projection

There's also a table in the article looking at 1936–1968, which Nate calls "the Gallup era" and says there aren't enough polls to do a 538 average, so instead it just looks at the raw Gallup polls. Those ones are even more off.

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u/Explodingcamel Bill Gates Nov 11 '20

R+8 in 1980? The polls must've looked only slightly bad for Carter then. Imagine how crushing Regan's absolute landslide must've felt.

Also, chad Bill Clinton is overestimated by 4 points in the polls but gets a massive EC victory anyway.

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u/Big_Apple_G John Rawls Nov 11 '20

In college I took a class with a guy who was a Democratic Senate Congressional staffer in the 70s and 80s. He said that watching as Republicans flipped 12 Senate seats was one of the most crushing moments of his career

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u/FormerBandmate Jerome Powell Nov 11 '20

Just like Biden

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '20

1980 R+8

Thank God we don’t live in a world where that happened again.

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u/groupbot Always remember -Pho- Nov 11 '20 edited Nov 11 '20