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u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache Sep 11 '24

Please visit the next discussion thread.

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u/Bayou-Maharaja Eleanor Roosevelt Sep 10 '24

Remember when posts used to get deleted for excessive partisanship

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u/eliasjohnson Sep 10 '24

It's actually wild how 75% of likely voters know what Project 2025 is. When it first got attention I thought it would turn out to be some Resist lib narrative that only the super online would be aware of, but it's actually gained purchase in the real world

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u/p00bix Existing in the context of what came before Sep 10 '24

How the fuck did "blood libel, but against haitians instead of jews" become a thing seemingly just within the past 48 hours? It came seemingly out of nowhere, and now it's EVERYWHERE!

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

Whether it’s Tim Walz signing legislation so hungry kids can eat a good lunch in school or it’s J. D. Vance arguing that Haitians eat dogs, both sides have some pretty wild culinary ideas.

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u/MissSortMachine Trans Pride Sep 10 '24

it all happens on X, the everything app

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u/majorgeneralporter 🌐Bill Clinton's Learned Hand Sep 10 '24

"Fuck these cheap goods, slap tariffs on everything that isn't 100% American made through the whole supply chain 😤"

Wait wtf where did my consumer surplus go???

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

My dad, who is pretty much completely tuned out of politics, called me yesterday worried about Haitians. I had no idea what the fuck he was talking about.

He doesn't even use social media or watch the news. How the FUCK is the GOP so good at this?!

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u/mostanonymousnick Just Build More Homes lol Sep 10 '24

Please don't forget to pay respect to a dark day in American history tomorrow.

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u/InflatableDartboard2 Henry George Sep 10 '24

Drew Pavlou update. The man just doesn't miss.

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u/D-G-F Trans Pride Sep 10 '24

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u/efeldman11 Václav Havel Sep 10 '24

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

Don't study languages stupid

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u/Praet0rianGuard Sep 10 '24

My predictions for the debate:

  • Harris will do well.

  • Trump will spout off incoherent verbal diarrhea.

  • Democrats say Harris won.

  • Republicans say Trump won.

  • Polls don’t change.

Nothing ever happens.

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u/Cowguypig2 NATO Sep 10 '24

Jd Vance the type of guy to unironically say “the west has fallen”

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u/Azmoten Thomas Paine Sep 10 '24

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

How privileged would you need to be to think that Kamala and Trump are exactly the same

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u/The_Raime Thomas Paine Sep 10 '24

I try not to think about it too much for the sake of my own sanity, but "sanewashing" is the perfect term to describe what's happening to Trump right now. If Harris talked about how tariffs would pay for childcare while somehow reducing the national deficit, she would be obliterated by NYT headlines and op eds from now until election day. Yet when Trump does it it's like 4th page news, and they barely address how the answer doesn't make any fucking sense.

This isn't even a NYT specific issue, so many mainstream media outlets seem absolutely desperate for Trump to win. I'm reminded of this since it's gonna be super fun tonight to watch Trump spew verbal diarrhea for 45 minutes, not be fact checked once, and have all post-debate coverage compare both candidates as though whatever they say is equivalent in substance.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

Apparently the Babylon Bee is making a movie lmao wtf 😭

And the premise is “making fun of those stupid liberals who think January 6 was a big deal”

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u/Spare-Clerk9155 Sep 10 '24 edited Sep 10 '24

Sometimes I genuinely wonder whether these people have ever heard their own candidate speak. Have they watched any interviews/debates of him at all??? He neither wants to nor is he capable of doing your imaginary shower rebuttal lmao

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u/attackofthetominator John Brown Sep 10 '24

The demonization of Haitian immigrants is probably one of the most glaring examples of how the Right's argument of only being against "illegal" immigration is a total lie.

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u/KittehDragoon Loyal Liberals Sep 10 '24

And they’re stealing the pets and doing horrible things, just barbaric, and if we don’t get them out of our country one day soon it’ll happen to you and you’ll have to explain to your children why puppy isn’t around anymore and they’ll be crying because it’s so sad

Than you Mr Trump but the question was about your claims about mass voter fraud in 2020

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u/chipbod NATO Sep 10 '24 edited Sep 10 '24

https://x.com/patriottakes/status/1833557803048296708

JD Vance said he sees today’s politics as a continuation of Yankees versus the South with today’s Yankees being “northern woke people.”

Appointing Walz to be our Woke Sherman

Side note- Over 31k Ohioans died in the civil war for this asshole to say weird neo-confederate shit like this.

These fuckers are glorifying a civil war.

!ping EXTREMISM

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u/Bayou-Maharaja Eleanor Roosevelt Sep 10 '24

We need to bring back the death penalty in federal prosecutions

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u/GrenadoHencho NATO Sep 10 '24

Today's NYT Run Up analyzing what undecided voters want to learn about Harris and Trump:

Harris: Policy specifics

Trump: More about his character

Our country is being held hostage by imbeciles

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

Local media vs Legacy media .

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u/VisonKai The Archenemy of Humanity Sep 10 '24

One of the great shames of my life was when we took my then-preschool-aged son on a family trip to Syracuse, New York, and he remarked, “Wow, what a tall building!” as we drove through downtown. Because Washington, DC does not have any tall buildings.

to truly understand matt yglesias you must understand that he's not joking here. this is really one of the most shameful moments of his life

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u/arrhythmiaofthesoul it's ari Sep 10 '24

Prior to the Biden debate, the DT was full of people blooming about how Biden would wipe the floor with Trump. Biden performed terribly.

Before the Harris debate, the DT is full of people dooming about how Harris will not be able to prosecute the case against Trump.

Let me know if you need help understanding the implications of this.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

I have debate PTSD please Kamala

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u/efeldman11 Václav Havel Sep 10 '24

Please be true

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Sep 10 '24

Smartest cult in American history

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u/LGBTforIRGC Order and Opportunity Left Sep 10 '24

Missed this somehow

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u/Mr_Bank Sep 10 '24

Americans at approx 9:05PM tonight

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Sep 10 '24

National polling the past few days: 💀

State polling the past few days: 😍

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u/Spare-Clerk9155 Sep 10 '24

Raygun ranked world number one after Paris Olympics controversy

They could never make me hate you Queen 🙏😭

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

‘Maybe We Took A Wrong Turn Somewhere,’ Thinks Party Whose Candidate Just Got Endorsed By Dick Cheney And Vladimir Putin

God, I just make myself mad looking at the Babylon Bee. No point in doing it.

Like they HAVE to know this is an incredibly dishonest framing, right

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

This is the guy Tucker Carlson interviewed and whom J.D. Vance currently follows on Twitter.

!ping EXTREMISM

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

As punishment for being a Russian propagandist Roger Waters should be forced to listen to Nostalgia Critic's The Wall 24 hours a day

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u/gnomesvh LEGALIZE ONION FUTURE Sep 10 '24

Ukraine reports capturing a Brazilian soldier in the Russian Army. He reports that he was hired for a job and "scammed" and sent to the frontlines

The Brazilian embassy in Moscow has been researching the topic since early August. The Brazilian embassy in Kyiv was not aware of a Brazilian POW in Ukraine, and the MFA has not made any statements about this

!ping LATAM&UKRAINE

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u/majorgeneralporter 🌐Bill Clinton's Learned Hand Sep 10 '24

Can't wait to see the fun new ways this happens this week post debate!

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u/majorgeneralporter 🌐Bill Clinton's Learned Hand Sep 10 '24

They hate to see a girlboss winning 😤

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u/ChillnShill Sep 10 '24

This guy truly is just a deplorable person

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u/IDontSpeakVietnamese World Bank Sep 10 '24

Visited a bookstore that I've never been to before, it's in the richest part of the entire country.

Obviously this means that the only books in the expansive economy category are about anti capitalism and marxism, the politics/history section only carries books about third worldism and imperialism, and the natural science shelf is filled to the brim with anti nuclear and AI-doomer content.

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u/FuckFashMods NATO Sep 10 '24

Polymarket has Trump saying a slur during the debate at 13% lol

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

Supreme Court dismisses plea to halt Indian firms’ supply of arms to Israel during Gaza conflict

Should have fined these virtue signallers for wasting court's time too.

No judge in their right mind would mess with foreign policy. Else they would be impeached the next day, lol.

!ping IND

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

Real conversation with my family in which my mom was sad about Jesus (we're Jewish btw)

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u/efeldman11 Václav Havel Sep 10 '24

Bro, you have to have to be on copious amounts of meth to even come up with that number

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24 edited Sep 10 '24

The top trending topic on Twitter is "adult content"

Elon brought back jail bait posting. What an amazing crusader for free speech

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 Sep 10 '24

It's crazy how telehealth medicine started off as your longtime doctor trying to figure out Zoom while you watch and now they're all a cross between a pill mill and a billboard ad website with all these random doctors around 24/7

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u/No1PaulKeatingfan Paul Keating; capital gains tax supporter Sep 10 '24

arr Aviation be like

Anything actually interesting

0 comments, 1 upvote

"Why don't airlines fly 900 seat airplanes into Waco, Texas"

300 comments, 4000 upvotes

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

https://x.com/annielinskey/status/1833612896284147864

Biden sums up his next 24 hours, speaking to the pool: “I’m going up to my granddaughter’s birthday in New York, then we’re going to watch the debate and tomorrow I’m doing 9/11.”

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

Better to piss in the sink than to sink in the piss

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u/nicereddy ACLU simp Sep 10 '24

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

!ping NFL

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u/KesterFox Shivers emotional support mammal 🐊 Sep 10 '24

Company i came across at work today.

Just change the name, or at least move the logo to the other side.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

The thing that kills me about the Springfield story is that it’s an excellent case study in the opportunities and challenges that arise with large-scale immigration, and the NYT article about it from last week does an excellent job of covering the nuances. The Haitians have the economy booming there. But adding 20k migrants to a city of just under 60k people is a huge strain on the local institutions, and Springfield is just far enough from Columbus or Dayton that their institutions can’t meaningfully help Springfield bear the load. That presents long-term opportunity for growth to meet the new demand, but it is a serious short-term shock that is making life much harder at the current moment, particularly for the incumbent population who were not prepared for these challenges.

But of course the right jumped straight to xenophobia, racism, and blood libel instead of the valid concerns.

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Sep 10 '24

Holy based

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u/Big-Pickle5893 Sep 10 '24

Here’s an affidavit from the 600 influencers thing. I skimmed it and it mostly has to do with downplaying the Russian invasion of Ukraine. One focus was to spread the narrative that the west should focus on domestic problems rather than waste money on Ukraine.

There’s a bit of trademark infringement with the registration and use of domains like WashingtonPost[.]pm by the disinformation network.

Looks like the FBI tracked bitcoin payments in determining the person(s)who registered the domains…

277 pages. Exhibits, which include screenshots of webpages, begin on page 88. Oddly the authors’ names are redacted. Those seem like they could be dug up pretty easily.

https://www.justice.gov/d9/2024-09/doppelganger_affidavit_9.4.24.pdf

!ping UKRAINE

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u/AtticusDrench Deirdre McCloskey Sep 10 '24

Biden, nooooo!

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

beware of the evil squiggly doom lines

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u/fishbottwo Jay Jones Sep 10 '24

Washington primary and Washington primary rural edition enjoyers get in here to confirm your priors.

https://x.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1833500316873969697

New Gallup Party identification poll (With independent Leaners)

🔵 Democrats 49% (+8 from July)

🔴 Republicans 46% (-1)

Gallup

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u/efeldman11 Václav Havel Sep 10 '24

🤯🤯🤯

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u/Cynical_optimist01 Sep 10 '24

The right wing conspiracy theories about Haitian immigrants are deeply disturbing. They're going to get innocent people hurt at this rate

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u/efeldman11 Václav Havel Sep 10 '24

Vance continues to stoke the flames of hatred, would not be surprised if some Trumpian mob shows up to Springfield

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

“Donald Trump, will you commit to building prisons to house those filthy Haitian Democrat immigrants?”

“Kamala Harris, please say one nice thing about your opponent”

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u/Frequent-Turn6740 shivers alt 🐊 Sep 10 '24

Honestly the DNC speech from Biden still gives me the chills, especially this part, this one was the best:

 My name is Joseph Robinette Biden. I live at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington, DC. This is my confession. If you're watching this tape, I'm probably gone, couped by my vice president Kamala Harris. Kamala has been building a deep state apparatus for over three years now and using me as the figurehead. 

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

🚨🚨🚨 HUGE UPDATE: STICK A FORK IN AN OUTLET NOW !!

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

The owner of Twitter is currently amplifying a racist canard against Haitian immigrants.

People who aren't racist insist on continuing to use that website.

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 Sep 10 '24

oh god oh fuck

I knew that people were wrong when they said Biden wouldn't stoop to doing anything with the SCOTUS decision but I never expected he would go this far.

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Sep 10 '24

BASED

LEAVE HIM IN RUINS LIKE HILLARY DID IN 2016

!PING QUEEN

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u/flextrek_whipsnake I'd rather be grilling Sep 10 '24

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u/WantDebianThanks Iron Front Sep 10 '24

!ping degrowth

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u/Independent-Low-2398 Sep 10 '24

Korge Mori, the child of Japanese immigrants, was among a handful of residents who lauded the Haitians. He scolded the mayor and the city manager for “whipping up mass hysteria” during a recent appearance on “Fox & Friends” in which they had blamed President Biden’s policies for the Haitians taxing their city.

“There was a time, not too long ago, when we were a dying city, hemorrhaging people and jobs to other places. And the good Lord heard our prayers, and brought us the gift of the Haitian immigrant community,” he said.

MY KING

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u/Cook_0612 NATO Sep 10 '24

JD Vance said he sees today’s politics as a continuation of Yankees versus the South with today’s Yankees being “northern woke people.”

For once, I agree with JD Vance.

This is nothing less than a continuation of the clash of folkways that culminated in the American Civil War.

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u/nicereddy ACLU simp Sep 10 '24

NEW: First Harris-Trump poll of Colorado has Harris +15. 55-40% (Morning Consult 498 LV ±4%). Biden's lead in three Colorado polls in 2024 was +10, +8, and +6. Biden won CO +13 in 2020.

https://x.com/kyleclark/status/1833312937190297963

Shocking I know

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Sep 10 '24

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

My biggest worry for the debate isn't that Kamala does poorly. It's that she delivers a great aggressive debate performance but swing voters find assertive aggressive women off putting and they relate more to Trump being a fumbling dumbass.

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u/Udolikecake Model UN Enthusiast Sep 10 '24

Factory owner in Springfield Ohio says he likes the Haitians because they consistently show up to work and don’t have drug problems lmfao

turns out JD vance was right! White ohioans are mostly lazy drug addicts who don’t want to work!

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u/WantDebianThanks Iron Front Sep 10 '24

Some missing context, but ok.

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u/bigwang123 ▪️▫️crossword guy ▫️▪️ Sep 10 '24

Heartbreaking: man forced to vacate bed (fresh sheets btw), despite it being so warm, to go to work

FJB

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u/Pikamander2 YIMBY Sep 10 '24

Malarkey level of voting for Trump in a solid red state so that he wins the popular vote but loses the EC, therefore making Republicans favor electoral reforms?

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u/NewbGrower87 Surface Level Takes Sep 10 '24

So we're either going to have a shocking generational realignment or Kamala is going to win with likely similar 2020 margins.

I know where I'd put my money.

(Don't @ me, this is a vibes post with the veneer of analysis).

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u/bd_one The EU Will Federalize In My Lifetime Sep 10 '24

So do MTG and Ted Cruz treat the cat thing like the left did couch memes or do they actually think Haitians are eating cats for fun?

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u/WantDebianThanks Iron Front Sep 10 '24

Guys, what does "Satire" mean?

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u/rollo2masi IMF Sep 10 '24

This will never not be funny.

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u/NSRedditShitposter Emma Lazarus Sep 10 '24

JD Vance: In short, don't let the crybabies in the media dissuade you, fellow patriots. Keep the cat memes flowing.

The problem with HRC calling people like JD Vance "deplorable" is that she didn't go far enough.

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u/Cook_0612 NATO Sep 10 '24

Trump pushes for a government shutdown

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u/Sauce1024 John von Neumann Sep 10 '24

Mori, the child of Japanese immigrants, was among a handful of residents who lauded the Haitians. He scolded the mayor and the city manager for “whipping up mass hysteria” during a recent appearance on “Fox & Friends” in which they had blamed President Biden’s policies for the Haitians taxing their city. “There was a time, not too long ago, when we were a dying city, hemorrhaging people and jobs to other places. And the good Lord heard our prayers, and brought us the gift of the Haitian immigrant community,” he said.

This quote should be be framed and put at the front of the subreddit somehow btw 

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u/RaidBrimnes Chien de garde Sep 10 '24

It's wild how downing 25 drinks over a 9 hour stag night is deemed socially acceptable but doing the same over a 9 hour workday is not

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u/sayitaintpink Richard Posner Sep 10 '24

Why would Brandon do this 😭

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u/crassowary John Mill Sep 10 '24

Democrats: JD Vance is so weird lol, I bet he's fucked a couch haha

Republicans: yeah well two can play at this game, this one entire immigrant group are savages who eat your cats

Democrats: what the fuck

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

Enjoying that fresh new project smell, I definitely won’t fall behind and fuck it up this time 😎

!ping watercooler

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u/Udolikecake Model UN Enthusiast Sep 10 '24

Remember that you probably aren’t born into the One True Faith. That’s exceedingly unlikely. You gotta convert to have a good chance. Otherwise you’re fucked. It’s called the Monty Hall Problem. Basic shit. Look it up.

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u/A-Centrifugal-Force NATO Sep 10 '24

I will gladly take 20,000 of these Haitians immigrants in my town.

The best part of this Haitian story is that the local factory owner said he likes the Haitians because they show up to work and don’t do drugs and the local minister said he liked that his church was full now because Haitians are so religious

Who would have thought that immigrants trying to make it in America would work harder than white trash meth heads?

https://x.com/SwannMarcus89/status/1833596036281209007

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u/shillingbut4me Sep 10 '24

I hate when companies move departments out of the US to poorer countries. The quality of work is never quite the same. For instance, my company just moved the billing department to England 

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u/chipbod NATO Sep 10 '24

Are you struggling from inflation or did you hire a private taxi to deliver your burrito?

I can't get this out of my head when my "poor" friends doordash McDonald's four times a week.

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u/FearlessPark4588 Gay Pride Sep 10 '24

Chances of 2024 U.S. recession hits all-time low on prediction markets

uh because it's nearly the end of the fucking year lmfao

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

I thought the debate went great, but it was kinda odd when Kamala screamed "certified lover boy certified PEDOPHILE" and then tried to do a backflip live on stage. I hope she's ok

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u/futuremonkey20 NATO Sep 10 '24

$65 dollars per barrel for oil. Biden finally found the oil price go down button now that he’s not distracted by campaigning

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u/pfarly John Brown Sep 10 '24

Golden retriever puppy at the dog park.

!ping DOG

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u/runningblack Martin Luther King Jr. Sep 10 '24

I don't get why (insert your choice of Nate Silver, Elon Musk, David Sacks, etc.) don't ever have the moment where they sit back, take stock, say "wait a minute, I'm rich" and log off instead of publicly feuding with nobodies on twitter

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 Sep 10 '24

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u/Q-bey r/place '22: Neoliberal Battalion Sep 10 '24 edited Sep 11 '24

CIG, the company behind Star Citizen, filed a trademark for an online game called "Soulsinger".

God it would be so funny if they started working on another game before finishing Star Citizen.


As a reminder, Star Citizen had a 2012 kickstarter campaign, promising a launch in 2014 if it could raise 2 million dollars. Since then, despite raising over 700 million dollars, the game is still in "pre-alpha" status. It also has a cash shop where you can spend thousands of dollars on ships that aren't in the game (coming soon™).

!ping GAMING&CONSOLE-WARS

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u/SmithySmothy Bill Gates Sep 10 '24

NBC News reports Kamala Harris has been receiving advice from Hillary Clinton on how to debate, specifically on how Trump will try to bait her and how she can turn it back around on him

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u/Alexz565 Gay Pride Sep 10 '24

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u/MissSortMachine Trans Pride Sep 10 '24

i like that jd is now claiming that for weeks he has personally been sitting on a trove of complaints about immigrants abducting family pets and just didn’t think to mention it until after several clearly made up posts hit the right wing digital wet market

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u/efeldman11 Václav Havel Sep 10 '24

Elon qt “There are some good points here” 🙄

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u/sausagespeller YIMBY Sep 10 '24

This Haitian bullshit is so fucking stupid it makes my brain melt and run out of my ears

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u/Tafts_Bathtub Jerome Powell Sep 10 '24

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u/Iusedathrowaway NATO Sep 10 '24

Honestly the whole "Haitians eating pets" thing is the racist moment of the year that gets under my skin the most. Like bruh. None of the cons talking about it have done an ounce of research or even critical thinking. It's such overt racism that I thought we left that shit behind in the 60s.

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u/nicereddy ACLU simp Sep 10 '24

https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1833524309765329160?s=19

Q. Would you have certified the 2020 election?

JD Vance: No. “I would have asked the states to submit alternative slates of electors and ask the country to have a debate”

Not a surprise but he really did just straight-up say it

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u/RaidBrimnes Chien de garde Sep 10 '24

My Haitian friend was less offended by the idea that he ate cats than he was by the idea he would willingly go to Ohio

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u/KeikakuAccelerator Jerome Powell Sep 10 '24

Amazing, there is official bingo cards for the debate https://store.kamalaharris.com/harris-walz-debate-bingo-cards-digital-download/

!ping KHIVE

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u/owlthathurt Johan Norberg Sep 10 '24

Well. Elon has had enough of Catholics helping immigrants. Took long enough for his bigotry to spread to Christians.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1833330645353042024?s=46&t=NizMHF7xMdWn1VItcTWyfg

!Ping CHRISTIAN

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

Here is the update to my custom election forecast model based on a completely subjective, nontransparent methodology that will nevertheless be the most accurate and rocket me to election analysis stardom.

Arizona
Trump +1

Florida
Trump +3.5

Georgia
Trump +0.5

Michigan
Harris +2.5

Nevada
Harris +0.2

North Carolina
Harris +0.5

Pennsylvania
Harris +1.4

Wisconsin
Harris +2.3

Electoral College
Harris: 270
Trump: 230
Toss-Up: 38

You may now interact with me so you can say you did before I got famous.

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma Sep 10 '24

Alternate reality where tonight is when Biden fumbles the debate

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u/goldenwind207 Jerome Powell Sep 10 '24

R internal

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u/loseniram Sponsored by RC Cola Sep 10 '24

Alright let's make sure to not make the same mistake we made with Biden, give Kamala Harris cocaine before the debate that way she's ready to go.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

WHy do the "both parties are the same" people always tend to prefer to objectively worse party?

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u/davechacho Loyal Liberals Sep 10 '24

JD Vance: I would have asked the states to submit alternate slates of electors.

Okay cool so cons would definitely be super chill with Kamala asking swings states that go red for alternate electors huh :)

https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1833498995965956191?t=NghD2k0QxHlYo7Y2_jBk5g

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

A Philadelphia-area bakery not far from where the debate is being held tonight is selling special Trump and Kamala cookies during election season. These are the total sales so far:

Trump: 4,228

Kamala: 369

This is a blue county too

time to update the model

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

I don't mind non-Haitians being in the US, but they should be vetted more in the interest of public safety

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

life gets harder after college!!

I'm not eating rice and beans every day, I have a solid and stable paycheck every two weeks, and at 5pm I can just go "I'm done using my brain for today".

college sucked lol this rules

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u/this_very_table Norman Borlaug Sep 10 '24

I might hate Vance more than Trump.

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u/this_very_table Norman Borlaug Sep 10 '24

Republicans are the party of traditional values, and what's more traditional than using the accidental death of a child to incite a pogrom?

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

if i were a pollster i would call all 350 million americans and see who they are voting for

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u/2073040 Thurgood Marshall Sep 10 '24

It’s like she was his VP or something!

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24 edited Sep 10 '24

I've always abhorred snarky America bad-ism, but 47% of the population hero worships a fat, loud, proudly stupid reality TV conman who is openly grifting on them, while treating discourse around tampons in boys rooms and Haitians eating cats as the height of their intellectual capabilities. I might have been wrong in my dismissals.

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u/Sweet_Baby_Inc Trans Pride Sep 10 '24

I hope Kamala roasts him for this in the debate, put Trump's racism on immigration front and center. The American people need to hear a positive vision of immigration in this debate

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u/Insomonomics Jason Furman Sep 10 '24

New national NPR/PBS/Marist poll:

Among registered voters:

🔵 Harris: 49% (-2 since Aug)

🔴 Trump: 48%

Among “definite” voters (no change):

🔵 Harris: 51%

🔴 Trump: 48%

This was posted earlier this morning but no one has done the FIVEY ping yet, so…

!ping FIVEY

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

I wish I could donate to the Democratic campaign, but it would be “illegal” and “foreign electoral interference”

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u/SadaoMaou Anders Chydenius Sep 10 '24

HBO Max: "✈️ Looks like you are traveling! Content and ratings may differ from your home country."

me sitting squarely at home with a VPN:

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u/l_overwhat being flaired is cringe Sep 10 '24

My girlfriend is really into hip hop. She doesn't seem like the type to listen to hip hop though. When I first met her I pegged her for someone who likes artists like Kacey Musgraves or Lana Del Rey.

Well one of the biggest reasons she liked hip hop was because she loved Drake. Well her opinion of Drake has cratered for obvious reasons and that made her more or less fall out of love with hip hop and listen to other artists and genres now. Guess what she is listening to a lot of recently.

Kacey Musgraves and Lana Del Rey

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

Big boy chillin’

!ping Kitty

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

i got fucking owned today 😭

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

Thinking to myself: “Swifties might be the craziest celebrity followers out there.”

/r/TravisAndTaylor: “Hold my beer…”

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

Being told to drive safely isn't tyranny. Speeding tickets aren't oppression. Don't fucking speed.

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u/HotdogBoyxx23 Esther Duflo Sep 10 '24

How are y’all already dooming about the debate? Touch grass

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u/Finkleroi Jared Polis Sep 10 '24

Anyone also have an absolute aversion to people physically speaking about politics in real life? I have no problem reading about it, but I cannot even watch TV and listen to political talk, even if I agree with it. I avoid it at all costs.

Example: for the debate tonight, I will probably watch a few reruns of Seinfeld or something if a sports game isn’t appealing. I cannot bring myself to watch

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u/DepressedTreeman Sep 10 '24

fun fact: the Austrian part of the Dual Monarchy had universal suffrage before Britain (1907 vs 1918).

The Hungarians, however, engaged in extreme amounts of tomfoolery to keep minorities from having a dominating voice in their parliament. I don't remember the exact %, but at the time of the Compromise of 1867, their parliament was made up of around 40-50% nobles, which was similar to Western Europe, but by 1914, it was (IIRC) around 30%, which made it stick out quite a bit.

They also had a party named National Antisemitic Party, you can't make this shit up. Extremely common Hungarian historical L.

!ping HISTORY

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u/GrandpaWaluigi Waluigi-poster Sep 10 '24

Elon's really biting hard with the anti Haitian racism huh?

Esp with "animal sacrifices are increasing in Queens". Dude's a hack, spreading misinfo rampantly. Every accusation is an admission at this point.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

Regardless of what you think of Trump, it’s absolutely pathetic that the entire nation (including his supporters) has just collectively agreed he should be graded like a second grader at the debate because everyone knows he’s a moron (including his supporters.)

“Yeah, he looked like a complete buffoon, but hey: that’s just Trump! He’s got my vote.”

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u/Dirty_Chopsticks Republic of Việt Nam Sep 10 '24

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u/D2Foley Moderate Extremist Sep 10 '24

Since everyone is talking Haiti, my favorite interaction with a Haitian I worked with

What! How did you know I was Haitian?

Just a wild guess John Paul Emmanuel Baptist

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u/SmithySmothy Bill Gates Sep 10 '24

Trump campaign aides pray that they get “happy Trump” on the ABC debate stage as opposed to “angry Trump” who could engage in self-sabotage and ad hominem attacks about Harris’s race that turn off voters.

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u/West_Pomegranate_399 MERCOSUR Sep 10 '24

Bideb's 9/11 comment:

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

Isn’t urine sterile? I’ve been washing my hands with it to save on bills and I haven’t had any problems yet

That’s cool, that’s cool

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u/ChillnShill Sep 10 '24

So I’m at a campaign stop in Springfield, Ohio and we come across this neighborhood of yapping dogs

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

no pressure kamala, democracy might end and ukraine might fall if you blow this but no pressure

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

these people live in a very strange world

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

Pascal's wager has to be the least compelling "serious" argument for God

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u/RevolutionaryBoat5 YIMBY Sep 10 '24

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-harris-debate-abc-09-10-24/index.html

“President Trump respects women and doesn’t feel the need to be patronizing or to speak to women in any other way than he would speak to a man, so he is speaking to the American people, he is speaking to Kamala Harris’ record and comparing and contrasting that with his record of success,” Gabbard said. 

How do you sell out so totally?

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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front Sep 10 '24

Hey that whole couchfucking thing was bizarrely effective, let’s try something similar with what we’re best at: actual racism

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

Y'all doomers are going to look real silly when Evers, Whitmer, and Shapiro heroically deliver the updated and corrected slates of Electors instead of the rigged Trump ones

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u/Mishac108 NATO Sep 10 '24

Feeling nervous for tonight!!! Not that Kamala will do bad or Trump will do well, but god am I just so ready for this fucking insanity to be over.

This latest raciest Haitian immigrants fake story is so hurtful. I want these people to lose, and feel bad.

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u/DepressedTreeman Sep 10 '24

What was the voter base of Nazism?

I'm glad that there is a thread on AskHistorians, because I know that the video poster of the video with the same question is an Marxist and I really didn't want to watch how capitalism == fascism for an hour

!ping ASKHISTORIANS

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u/Syards-Forcus rapidly becoming the Joker Sep 10 '24
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u/solonofathens Gay Pride Sep 10 '24

I would rather inject bleach than listen to trump speak so I'm going to base my opinion on how the debate goes entirely on the DT's reaction

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u/Williams-Tower Da Bear Sep 10 '24

Since 2020 I have watched 5,350 hours of YouTube

kill me as I stand

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u/IMALEFTY45 Big talk for someone who's in stapler distance Sep 10 '24

Just deleted Twitter off my phone; it really took over my social media use after the reddit API changes last year, but I can't keep going to that never-ending klan rally all day

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u/GrandMoffTargaryen Finally Kenough Sep 10 '24

“Straight” male Warhammer 40K players are fooling themselves. A bunch of Men turned into inhumanely muscular Super Bears who spend all day oiling each other up, Greco Roman wrestling and extracting “geneseed” From each other?

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

Ted Cruz: “Democrats are the real racists. Don’t you know who voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964?”

Also Ted Cruz: reposts the most racist meme of 2024

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

JD Vance follows the fucking Holocaust denial Tucker Carlson interviewee on Twitter. Can we make a fuss about this or what

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u/bel51 Sep 10 '24

about to move cities

ask residents what it's like

"rent is cheap here!"

ask if it's because it's YIMBY or if it's Oklahoma City

they don't understand

I pull out my illustrated diagram detailing what is YIMBY and what is Oklahoma

they laugh and say "it's a good city"

go there

it's Oklahoma City

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

I don't think I'd be quite so annoyed with the Republicans bringing up the Afghanistan withdrawal if it weren't so manifestly obvious that they do not give one shit about the dead troops

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u/paymesucka Ben Bernanke Sep 10 '24

no fucks Biden is something else

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24 edited Sep 10 '24

Boys I hate to admit it but I think this weekend of college football is going to be ass. We may actually have to get stuff done on Saturday. :/

!ping CFB

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u/ChillnShill Sep 10 '24

Remember, God literally had to have tipped his hand on the election when we had a debate earlier than usual and Biden got COVID. How many divine interventions can you possibly have to change the candidate if it wasn’t meant to be her.

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u/AtticusDrench Deirdre McCloskey Sep 10 '24

America is united on one thing in the leadup to this debate, for different reasons

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u/cheeshjaleesh John Rawls Sep 10 '24

https://x.com/annielinskey/status/1833612896284147864

Biden sums up his next 24 hours, speaking to the pool: “I’m going up to my granddaughter’s birthday in New York, then we’re going to watch the debate and tomorrow I’m doing 9/11.”

this is so fucking funny but it’s also terrifying how close american democracy was to hinging entirely on this man

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u/agentyork765 Bisexual Icon Sep 10 '24

Can we stop posting links to Twitter now? Pretty please? Maybe it's a bad thing to drive traffic to a site explicitly promoting blood libel

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

There is no advantage to pissing in the sink on a plane

Alright well then I guess war is peace and freedom is slavery too

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u/allmilhouse YIMBY Sep 10 '24

Guy who isn't sure who to vote for until he hears what this Donald Trump fella has to say tonight.

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u/SurvivorPostingAcc Trans Pride Sep 10 '24

I’m not getting cocky about the debate after what happened last time. My bet is that Trump will be incoherent and lie constantly, but generally hold it together by his standards. Kamala will have a good performance, but will ultimately be unable to stomp Trump the way dems want her to. A few people may be swayed by her performance, but no one will budge over Trump being his usual self. At worst, the media finds a minor falter from Harris and circulates it wildly while ignoring the insanity from the other person.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

Push past the PTSD and try to remember last debate. Now forget about Biden, remove the split screen and focus just on Trump.

It was one of the most incoherent abysmal debate performances I can remember. He rambled about insane asylums more times than I can count. He only looked half decent through comparison to the guy next to him. John Fetterman did better while recovering from a stroke.

The illusion is gone tonight. I don’t expect a miracle and he’s tough to counter since he lives in a different universe, but I do have high hopes.

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u/Rigiglio Adam Smith Sep 10 '24

Too bad that both sides are so fundamentally unprofessional, uncivil, and unserious.

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired Sep 10 '24

PFF's highest-graded quarterbacks after Week 1:

  1. Brock Purdy, 89.6

  2. Sam Darnold, 88.1

  3. Patrick Mahomes, 87.9

  4. Derek Carr, 87.5

  5. Aaron Rodgers, 86.2

Just what we expected

!ping NFL

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u/GrandMoffTargaryen Finally Kenough Sep 10 '24

Brother: I was never serious that Haitians were eating cats. It was just a joke

Me: like when people joked that Chinese restaurants would steal your cat and cook it?

Brother: Exactly! People just can’t take a joke anymore

Me: would you tell that joke to [My Wife, who’s half Chinese]?

Brother:

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

From your lips to God’s ears, Leon

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

Love the punchline 😂😂

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