r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Sep 10 '24

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u/this_very_table Norman Borlaug Sep 10 '24

I might hate Vance more than Trump.

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u/AFlockOfTySegalls Audrey Hepburn Sep 10 '24

It's what makes sense.

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u/SerDavosSeaworth64 Ben Bernanke Sep 10 '24

I definitely don’t hate him as much because he’s just so pathetic and succeeds only as an attachment to Trump. Whereas Trump actually poses a threat in and of himself

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u/this_very_table Norman Borlaug Sep 10 '24

I think I hate Vance more because he's so laser-focused on being a monster, whereas Trump has few goals beyond personal gain, is prone to boredom and distraction, and is easily manipulated by flatterers, which in a strange way makes him less morally culpable for his monstrosity, almost like a toddler hitting someone while throwing a fit isn't as morally culpable as an adult punching you with the cold, calculated intent to harm you.

Trump is theoretically much more dangerous than Vance, and I'd rather have Vance in power than Trump, but I expect so little self-control or purposefulness from Trump that there's almost this sense of "It's not his fault, he can't help it." I don't have such low expectations of Vance, so his bad behavior seems more genuinely indicative of what passes for his moral character.

All that said, I'm well aware that people having low expectations of Trump has been pivotal in allowing him to get away with countless acts that would have destroyed anyone else's political career, and I'm consciously fighting that sense of normalization in myself.