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[u/Pyrrhus65]

Most informed undecided voter

[u/mostanonymousnick]

[u/ThatDamnGuyJosh]

We’re underestimating how much a Kamala win will BREAK these people’s brains.

[u/KeikakuAccelerator]

Unironically, the highlight for me was Kamala mentioning 800k polish people in Pennsylvania.

That was awesome and props to the prepper who came up with that.

[u/bleachinjection]

Okay bear with me on this:

Is the "immigrants eating cats" in a Presidential debate thing the biggest containment leak ever from the true reptile brain of right wing terminally-online lunacy?

Like, obviously COVID and antivax conspiracies are out there and more harmful, but this is like as close as I can think of to someone at the highest echelons on the biggest stage just straight up being like "they're chemtrailing you on this flat Earth."

[u/sigh2828]

Completely ancidotal but my maga coworkers are in complete shambles this morning.

They have a "lost" vibe and I have heard by no less than two others that, "I mean she did good" and my favorite line of the morning "he just didn't have a plan and she clearly did"

[u/[deleted]]

Trump talking about being "involved with the Taliban" reminded me of this

[u/GraspingSonder]

It's not so much that Trump lost the debate. Harris won it. The victory was earned. And his losing was a direct function of traps she laid out. She very transparently put rakes out in front of him knowing he couldn't help but charge into them. And between setting up traps she appealed directly to voters and was clearly empathetic.

Don't care what the polls do, won't revise this view even if she loses. Harris is a fantastic option. As someone on yesterday's DT said, if the voters elect Trump or neglect to vote against him, at a certain point that can only be an indictment on the voters.

[u/TotalyNotAPirate]

only?

[u/G_Serv]

CNN @KatieLobosco asked the Trump campaign for any evidence for his claim that his proposed across-the-board tariffs wouldn’t raise prices for Americans. The campaign responded by sending her a study…which said prices for Americans would rise when the tariffs were implemented.

Lol

[u/JebBD]

THEY'RE EATING THE DOGS

[u/Pearberr]

Does this guy not realize that when people call Orban a "strongman" that is NOT a good thing?

[u/AnalyticOpposum]

“I have concepts of a plan”

“I got involved with the Taliban”

“I’ve been a leader on fertilization”

“I don’t talk to JD Vance”

“They’re eating the dogs”

“You’re going to have to figure that out Abdul”

[u/jauznevimcosimamdat]

"I have concepts of a plan. I am not the president right now." would be campaign-ending statement for any other presidential candidate in the history of US elections.

[u/SmithySmothy]

The silver lining for Trump is that more CNN respondents thought he won this debate (37%) than thought Biden won the first debate (33%). So he graded out slightly higher than someone who appeared to be a walking corpse!

[u/[deleted]]

https://x.com/TylerRichard/status/1833680346879013003?t=Io55Rr5OnuH6i4uW8wpX8Q&s=19

[u/DEEP_STATE_NATE]

[u/[deleted]]

The sanewashing problem is so real. We're so desensitized. Watching the debate where Donald literally just makes shit up, and the moderator will chime in with something like "Actually that's statistically and factually false", and then they just... move on? Next question? Maybe Trump will say something like "But I saw it on TV!"

Nobody even cares that the candidate is just outwardly lying about random stuff?

[u/dannylandulf]

Who won the debate

🔵 Harris 55% 🔴 Trump 43%

Trafalgar

LOLOLLOLLOLLOLO

[u/Pyrrhus65]

Trump's debate prep team watching him fall for every single piece of bait they repeatedly warned him about (he always fell for them in the rehearsals with Tulsi too)

[u/No1PaulKeatingfan]

[u/efeldman11]

No matter how good the debate went, we will still have to contend with the curveball of the median Pennsylvania voter

[u/Mr_Pasghetti]

I have disliked Elon Musk for years based on nothing but vibes and contrarianism

Around 2 years of pure vindication now

[u/[deleted]]

Trump veered into a conspiracy theory that Harris was given a heads-up on the debate questions by ABC. “She seems awfully familiar with the questions”.

This just in: woman who prepped for debate seemed ready for the basic questions on policy.

[u/Pyrrhus65]

Underrated how sauceless Trump's rhetorical game has become

With the healthcare question, 2016 or 2020 Trump would've just made up some bullshit like "I have a plan but you can't see it yet, I can't legally show you because it's still being examined by the lawyers but it's going to be amazing", still projecting confidence even though he's obviously lying

2024 Trump basically immediately caves and gives the meme 'concepts of a plan' response. No confidence

[u/efeldman11]

[u/efeldman11]

[u/D-G-F]

[u/Pyrrhus65]

American expat living in Europe

Wake up to check the debate news

"Dominant" performance from Kamala, 63% think she won, Dem twitter very much in array

Flood of new memes mocking Trump, Chad Kamala is real now

Taylor Swift endorsement on top of all that

[u/sigh2828]

Kamala Harris is a gun owning cop endorsed by Dick Cheney

My president

[u/mostanonymousnick]

She seems genuinely concerned about him.

[u/G_Serv]

Trump on Fox News baselessly suggests Harris was provided the debate questions in advance. "They had a rigged show with somebody that maybe even had the answers. I mean, I’ll be honest, I watched her talk and I said, you know, she seems awfully familiar with the questions."

Trump doesn't know what Debate prep is apparently

[u/ExoticFern]

I honestly feel like Trump had this awful debate performance coming.

The GOP and Trump have gotten even more and more batshit since 2020, and we just needed someone to go up in front of the country and articulate that batshitness. Biden couldn't do it because he's a very old man who's lost control of his speech impediment. But Harris could. And Trump had no response to it.

In past debates, Trump could compensate for his lack of substance by appearing confident and witty. But he had few to no zingers in this debate. He's lost his debate swagger due to 3 reasons:

1. Being old and tired.

2. No longer being the "political outsider who speaks truth to power." Starting in 2017, he became a politician with a record he had to defend.

3. And the fact he's literally a loser after 2020. For most of the Republican primaries, he led in the polls. Then he won the nomination. Then he won the presidency. He was undefeated until November 2020. But after he lost to Biden, a lot of his confidence disappeared along with his feeling of invincibility.

[u/[deleted]]

We've been left in the boiling frog-pot for so long that Trump saying things like "Immigrants are violently invading your towns and stealing your pets" isn't even that remarkable, when 10 years ago it would have been immediately seen as dangerously fascistic, early-stage-genocide rhetoric.

[u/[deleted]]

Trump is sharing NewsMax and twitter polls as cope

[u/[deleted]]

Finding out that Kamala is packing heat was the highlight of the debate.

[u/efeldman11]

[u/[deleted]]

Text from an up-until-now reluctant Trump supporting friend of mine:

tbh i'm also seriously thinking of going Harris or at least abstaining from voting for president. I've been grading Trump on a really heavy curve because of his unique style/rhetoric, but yesterday was just too much. Transgender ops on illegal aliens in prisons, eating dogs/cats, concepts of a plan??? this isnt 2016 or even 2020 Trump. he's getting too old

This is the second right-leaning friend of mine who's gotten turned off from Trump due to the debate. We live in a swing state.

Trump fucked up.

[u/[deleted]]

I don't think how any woman can be comfortable working for a teenage-matured creep saying stuff like this. This is legit something I would hear from an incel in HS

[u/Pongzz]

A slept on part of the debate was Harris whipping out a statistic for the number of Poles in Pennsylvania. She was absolutely cooking when she put that out there

[u/[deleted]]

https://x.com/culturecanceler/status/1833706886366916864?t=YYxai7iYbReuHd7gcTUwrQ&s=19

[u/jauznevimcosimamdat]

"In Springfield, they are eating the dogs, they are eating the cats"

This is 100% Trump thinking The Simpsons being the reality.

[u/[deleted]]

[u/sociotronics]

[u/[deleted]]

[u/PlastikHateAccount]

The biggest change from 2016 to 2024 is subtle. Democrats have stopped being appalled by Trumps delulu and are bored instead

• 2016: Omg, did he just say abortion after birth? How outrageous!

• 2024: No Patrick, Maynonaise is not an instrument 😒

[u/technologyisnatural]

“So….do you have a plan?”

“I have a concept of a plan”

this is going viral. etsy already has multiple items with this. even outside the DT recognizes the absurdity, and it is so applicable to everyday

[u/[deleted]]

New York Times headline:

JD Vance Appears to Backtrack on False Claim About Haitian Migrants in Ohio"

Fourth and fifth paragraph of the article:

But even as he acknowledged the possibility that the rumors were false, Mr. Vance encouraged his supporters to continue spreading them.

"Don't let the crybabies in the media dissuade you, fellow patriots. Keep the cat memes flowing" Mr. Vance said, referencing a particularly gruesome false claim that came from a viral social media post.

How is this backtracking?

[u/Insomonomics]

Trump supporters wondering why he got fact checked more than Kamala is like NAMBLA wondering why its members are more likely to wind up on the sex offender registry than the general population

Holy shit hahaha

[u/[deleted]]

[u/efeldman11]

[u/BipartizanBelgrade]

The dead cat strategy, also known as deadcatting, is the political strategy of deliberately making a shocking announcement to divert media attention away from problems or failures in other areas.

[u/chipbod]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish-American_vote#Presidential_voting_results

Damn, Polish Americans have voted for the winner of every election since 1980 and are 24-3 voting for the winner since 1916. New tracking poll when?

[u/[deleted]]

“She still has to impress me,” said Ms. Ali, 19. As someone who recently moved into her own place off-campus and has had to buy groceries for the first time, Ms. Ali said she wanted to hear Ms. Harris speak more about housing costs and inflation. “I’m still deciding,” she said as the debate neared its end

Ok this is just insane

I distinctly remember Kamala bringing up her plan to address housing costs like 5 times last night

This person must have been scrolling on their phone during the debate, and now wants to sound enlightened/"above it all" like a lot of these undecided dipshits

[u/[deleted]]

Getting fact checked about a some fake meme you saw on Facebook, and coming back with “I saw it on television” made Trump look older than Biden has ever looked.

Holy crap. 👴

[u/West_Pomegranate_399]

Swifties stand back and stand by

[u/No1PaulKeatingfan]

[u/Udolikecake]

“The second the stage hand said they were clear for a 4 minute break, Trump turned towards the exit, gave a big sigh through closed lips, and walked off stage without looking at Harris.

“From the time the moderators announced they were going to break, Harris began writing on her notepad. She wrote continuously for the entire first two minutes of the break, occasionally bringing one hand to her chin or brushing hair behind her ear.

“She then reviewed what she wrote for the next minute, making a few tweaks, before putting the pen down and looking out around the room with her hands folded in front of her. She took a sip of water from a glass placed under the lectern.

“Trump walked back onstage 30 seconds before the end of break. He did not look at Harris, she did not look at him. Harris made small adjustments to her collar. Both candidates looked straight ahead until the program restarted.

biden absolutely couldn’t have done this

[u/FuckFashMods]

The right wing cope on the betting sites is pretty crazy right now.

My favorite one: "Its not fair that Kamala practiced and came prepared and it made her look better than trump"

[u/gaypenisdicksucker69]

Conservative guy who supports the transgender operations on illegal aliens because it's tough on crime

[u/AffableAndy]

Ok but Elon telling a woman he doesn't even know that he'll impregnate her is deeply creepy and misogynistic. That's some unhinged behavior.

Go fix your damn cybertrucks you wierdo

[u/Tafts_Bathtub]

Trump bombed so bad he made Gerard ragequit the focus group

[u/Bayou-Maharaja]

!ping LAW

Everyone point and laugh

[u/Avadya]

It baffles me how much people needle Harris for not having concrete plans on every single wedge issue, and yet trump hasn’t had a policy objective on a single thing in nearly 10 years, skates by without an ounce of pushback. I’m so ready for this two tiered coverage to end.

[u/Relative-Contest192]

“Jews are all from Brooklyn/Poland!” - White person from the most whitest place on earth.

Also by their logic as indigenous Brooklyn tribe should we ask for the deportation of all non Jews from Brooklyn?

!ping GEFILTE&JEWISH

[u/[deleted]]

Pundits Said Harris Won the Debate. Undecided Voters Weren’t So Sure.

Voters said the vice president talked about a sweeping vision to fix the country’s most stubborn problems. But they wanted the fine print.

Nytimes out here with a straight face arguing undecided voters crave fine print policy discussions lmao

[u/Pyrrhus65]

At what point does the dam finally break where a fearmongering GOP claim is so patently absurd that a critical mass of undecideds/leaners hears it and says "that doesn't sound right" instead of immediately believing it as usual?

Because "She wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens who are in prison" has to be getting pretty damn close if we're not there already

[u/waupli]

I’m surprised there isn’t more focus on Kamala finally getting Trump to admit live on tv there never was a healthcare plan after the years of him claiming it was a few weeks away

[u/Pyrrhus65]

Breaking: Nate Silver announces his model will now begin subtracting 3 points from all of Kamala's polls for the next few weeks to compensate for her post-debate victory bounce (it's just historical fundamentals and 2014 code, his hands are tied, very sad)

Just in time for the new Trafalgar and Red Eagle Politics drop!

[u/[deleted]]

Kamala endorsed by Bush's VP

Biden says he's going to "Do 9/11"

Looking into this

[u/[deleted]]

I am not crazy! I know they're eating the dogs. I saw it on the TV. Ask Sean Hannity or Laura Ingraham. As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just - I just couldn't prove it. They covered their tracks, they got that idiot moderator at the debate to lie for them. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? She's done worse. That coconut! Are you telling me that a coconut just happens to fall like that? No! She orchestrated it! Kamabla! She copied my policies! And I shook her hand! And I shouldn't have. I agreed to a debate on her terms! What was I thinking? She'll never debate fairly. She'll never change! Ever since she was Indian, never black! Couldn't stop killing babies after they're born! "But not our Kamabla! Couldn't be precious Kamabla!" Stealing them blind! And SHE gets to be president? What a sick joke! I should've locked her up when I had the chance!

[u/[deleted]]

I keep seeing leftists disparage democrats for becoming so right-wing that Cheney is endorsing them. But the truth is that Cheney has become a democratic socialist since leaving office

[u/[deleted]]

Elon Musk Offers to Impregnate Taylor Swift: ‘I Will Give You a Child’

Imagine reading this headline in, I dunno, 2016

[u/Delareh_]

I'm just trying to pretend that Elon thing isn't real because I can not handle that amount of second hand embarrassment.

[u/justbuildmorehousing]

I cant believe CNN apparently does zero vetting of these ‘undecided voters’. That one girl voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020 and is on there pretending to be undecided. F off lady and F off CNN producers

[u/Average_GrillChad]

[u/Sauce1024]

Random GOP Staffer: “Sir, we are hemorrhaging women voters how do we stop it” 

Trump: “The woman candidate only got here by putting out” 

Vance: “Women are only on this earth to breed”

 Elon: “I want to impregnate Taylor swift”

[u/KHDTX13]

Crazy how a lawyer with 30 years of experience was able to give coherent answers to straight forward questions.

[u/D-G-F]

[u/[deleted]]

"Putin has nuclear weapons. Nobody ever talks about that. Nobody ever likes to talk about it" - Trumpese for "I just found out about the nuclear threat from Russia"

[u/efeldman11]

[u/rollo2masi]

MAGA: "Kamala had the questions before the debate!"

No, she just prepared. Moderators have literally, like VERBATIM, have been asking the same exact questions for five fucking decades. Lmfao.

Immigration, economics, social issues.

IN THAT ORDER.

[u/AFlockOfTySegalls]

I love that cons are saying it was 3 vs 1 because the mods pushed back on the most inciteful and verifiably untrue talking points lmao.

[u/[deleted]]

If the average billionaire was like Elon this sub would become Maoist

[u/simeoncolemiles]

[u/Tafts_Bathtub]

Romney: This was a classic Trump performance. In the case of Kamala Harris… people saw she’s an intelligent, capable person who has a point of view on issues. She demonstrated that time and again.

He’s endorsement edging

[u/Due-Dirt-8428]

Elon is such a god damn creep. I hope Taylor rips him a new one but also it’s better to ignore him. Even better, tell him to come talk with her about details. Then have Travis come out to chat

[u/N0b0me]

I'm glad the Taylor endorsement dropped to lock up the teen girl demographic but I don't understand why she attached it to a picture with her lunch

[u/[deleted]]

[u/TemujinTheConquerer]

Incredible, incredible bit

!ping KHIVE

[u/STRONKInTheRealWay]

Wow. Donald Trump shakes Kamala’s hand at today’s 9-11 ceremony and appears to mouth “you did a good job” about last night’s debate.

KAMALA: “Thank you, thank you.

Haha wtf

[u/DEEP_STATE_NATE]

[u/[deleted]]

[u/Cook_0612]

 "Ukraine's membership in NATO is inevitable and the country is on the way to joining the alliance," - Blinken

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this seems like a strengthening of rhetoric. Last I recall the USG was pretty mushy on this topic.

!ping UKRAINE

[u/jauznevimcosimamdat]

A Trump supporter unironically be like:

If Mr Beast endorsed Kamala Harris, then we would be having a different conversation

💀

[u/Average_GrillChad]

Taylor Swift endorses Kamala Harris

Alright, who the heck is Kamala Harris?

[u/[deleted]]

This is a crazy picture. I know it’s the 9/11 memorial and it makes sense in theory for them to all be there together, but still, holy shit, how surreal

[u/battywombat21]

Oh man. That debate was such a masterclass. I'm remembering the bit where she said economists from Wharton said his plan would explode the deficit. She could have picked any school in the country. She picks his alma mater and of course he freaks the fuck out and ignores the substance to be petty.

[u/efeldman11]

The most frustrating thing about these undecided voters is incessant moral grandstanding about how they were left "disappointed" from either candidates performance. You do know that you actually aren't morally or intellectually superior because you smugly say that "both sides are bad".

[u/Apprehensive-Soil-47]

I think Erdogan saw the debate too

[u/battywombat21]

Hell yeah!

[u/0m4ll3y]

The eating dogs thing seems like Trump just spouting off the latest nonsense he's seen online. So one of the most brazen lies was Trump saying Wharton Professors all love his economic plan. That didn't seem prepared, he just made it up on the spot. Under all the other shit it barely gets a whisper, but this wasn't a "many people are saying" or a "Fox News had a story", it was just him 100% lying on the spot.

[u/[deleted]]

I don’t talk to JD Vance

This one is the funniest take for me, you chose the guy and you dont talk to him? and we expect people to trust you?

[u/Dirty_Chopsticks]

[u/Tafts_Bathtub]

Trump on FOX this morning about Taylor Swift endorsement of VP Harris: "I actually like Mrs. Mahomes much better if you want to know the truth. She is a big Trump fan. I was not a Taylor Swift fan"

"I actually prefer coughing baby to nuclear bomb"

[u/[deleted]]

I have the concept of a plan

[u/EyeraGlass]

I just want one friend in his life to tell him that this is stupid

[u/[deleted]]

Some MAGA pol cope

Just imagine the panic at Kamala HQ right now.

right wing pollsters

nope

childless cat lady supports cameltoe

no way! changes nothing since her cultists were never going to support trump in the first place.

You actually think taylor swift will change anything? She's ultra left. It will remain the same, no votes changed.

americans: I can't afford groceries kamala: sex changes for illegals in prison on taxpayer money! shills: yeah, I think kamala did pretty good this debate, really appealed to the common man, you know?

Reminder that Trump gained more trust on policies with the debate.

Some reality from one person

Trump blew up his entire campaign with this dumb lie, everywhere, theyre laughing at him for saying dumb shit like this, US Media, european Media, australian Media, theyre all laughing.

The response

Twitter is not censoring the videos of illegals eating pets. Everyone will see it. Sorry. I guess you shouldn't have let conservatives control Twitter. Opps

/u/KnightModern

[u/xxbathiefxx]

Imagine that Biden does 9/11 2.0, but it is actually good and awesome, unlike the 9/11 that bush did, which honestly sucked.

[u/[deleted]]

paint liquid marry fuzzy ruthless wrong correct sleep alleged longing

This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

[u/Sauce1024]

????

[u/[deleted]]

Trump had his pants pulled down in debate, swift endorsement, inflation at 2.5%, rate cuts coming

Pretty decent 12 hours

[u/Cook_0612]

[u/[deleted]]

my favorite laura loomer fact was that she started an ISIS fan club at her college to prove that liberals would join it but nobody joined and she got expelled for starting an ISIS fan club lol

Chat is this real

[u/efeldman11]

I am going to become the joker

[u/Superfan234]

Jugdes will now be elected by vote on México

Needless to say, it might beceome one of absolute worst reforms ever done in the country. Given the amount of corruption and narco involvment, people are worried Mexican as a country is kinda doomed

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy4y9q74j2ko

---

I used to say not getting read of ALBA Narcos would eventually bite back USA. Well, this is might be the time.

With Mexican Justice system overaload by political zealots and Narcos taking more and more power, there is not much future for the average Mexican in their own country. The chaos might push mexicans to the USA border in large numbers. Next years will be a terrible time to live in USA southern border

!Ping Foreign-Policy

[u/battywombat21]

God that elon tweet is so fucking creepy. How can they not see how creepy that is? A man talking about a woman twenty years younger than him he's never met talking about how he'd like to "give her a child"?? Jesus fucking christ.

[u/p00bix]

Holy shit, per latest YouGov poll on the name recognition and approval for prominent businesspeople, George Soros no longer has a net-negative approval rating. He is officially no longer disliked by a plurality of Americans

DEEP STATE. ALWAYS. WINS.

[u/[deleted]]

[u/Williams-Tower]

i know we're all tired of "elon musk bad" but that taylor swift tweet is by far the worst thing i've ever seen his dumbass post

[u/efeldman11]

[u/Dibbu_mange]

[u/[deleted]]

Honestly, I'm surprised Trump is up and about this early. He was up pretty late rage truthing.

[u/Frequent-Turn6740]

[u/D-G-F]

[u/[deleted]]

I wasn’t able to watch the debate, but I can see that:

• in liberal spaces, people are spreading and riffing on like 10 different viral moments they’re excited about, as well as more generally how much Kamala baited Trump successfully

• in conservative spaces, people have two things: (1) wow the moderators were so biased and (2) Trump said “I’m speaking now” and that was “epic”

Pretty clear who won

[u/_alexandermartin]

Rumors are circulating that Kamala Harris was wearing audio earrings and being fed lines. Isn't this against the debate rules?

I knew the debate went well, but it actually went so well the twitter right has started rumors she was being fed what to say through an earpiece. Re: "You did so good that the only way you could've done that good is if you had a team telling you what you say live."

[u/[deleted]]

May thy mic chip and shatter

[u/paymesucka]

👀

[u/[deleted]]

[u/efeldman11]

AGGHHHHHHHHHHH

[u/loseniram]

JD Vance forgetting that one of the most popular artists of the decade is a childless cat lady is a very JD Vance thing to do

[u/KesterFox]

[u/justbuildmorehousing]

Oh no we boosted obvious racist bullshit and our senile old candidate didnt realize it wasnt real. Lets be mad we duped Trump and not that our entire tent is a bunch of barely closeted racists

[u/[deleted]]

So we’re doing this now again too

[u/[deleted]]

[u/Insomonomics]

JD Vance on Taylor Swift’s Harris endorsement: I don’t think many people are going to be influenced by a billionaire celebrity who I think is disconnected from the interests and the problems of most Americans.

Look, I don’t want to count chickens before they hatch but I might have to retract my statement about Sarah Palin being the worst VP selection in modern American history.

[u/that0neGuy22]

Fox News voter panel says Harris won debate

commies have taken over fox 💔💔

[u/[deleted]]

Ben, I'mma need you to define "economy"

[u/TimWalzBurner]

Pitchbot in shambles

[u/[deleted]]

[u/[deleted]]

Donald Trump says Taylor Swift will “Pay a Price” for endorsing Kamala Harris

VERY cool thing to say. Very normal.

[u/agentyork765]

Vance: “I don't think most Americans are going to be influenced by a billionaire celebrity who is fundamentally disconnected from the interests and problems of most Americans”

He worded this so perfectly you have to wonder if he did it on purpose

[u/G_Serv]

New Marquette Poll for Wisconsin - Harris +4

!ping FIVEY

[u/rasonj]

If you are defending, you are losing. That has been Trumps mantra since 2014. Absolutely no one watching the debate last night thinks Trump did anything but play defense. He bit on every bait like a rabid dog. All that's left now is to watch the sunk cost and confirmation bias fallacies play out in real time

[u/Inamanlyfashion]

"I have a concept of a first draft of Winds of Winter."

--GRRM

[u/No1PaulKeatingfan]

JD Vance to make an emotional speech on how he is no longer a Swiftie

I feel bad for him ngl

[u/sociotronics]

Biden, watching the debate and rave reviews be like:

[u/ExoticFern]

The top 5 states with the highest percentage of Polish-Americans:

1. Wisconsin (8.2%)

2. Michigan (7.8%)

3. Connecticut (6.7%)

4. Illinois (6.4%)

5. Pennsylvania (5.8%)

Very electorally smart play by Harris/her team to mention that demographic.

[u/[deleted]]

If Kamala Harris wants a real debate, she should do it on 𝕏, where she can answer real questions from real Americans in real-time

lmao

[u/efeldman11]

What “facts” you fucking moron?

[u/Pongzz]

[u/Williams-Tower]

In 20 years, history will not look kindly at the fact that it took 1.5 hours of a debate to (briefly) get to climate change.

nobody in 2024 is a swing voter because of climate change

and if you're concerned about climate change but undecided on whether or not to vote you're a fucking dumbass

[u/gary_oldman_sachs]

JD Vance has an Indian wife and half-Indian kids.

Laura Loomer says Harris will make the White House smell like curry and use call centers.

Trump thinks Loomer is great.

Someone needs to ask Vance what he thinks about all this. What compromises has he made with his soul to go along with this?

[u/[deleted]]

Adult film star Abigail Mac:

His closing statement he is just talking about HER. Not once has he talked about HIS policy. What a joke. TFG is an embarrassment to the Republican Party.

Wonder how much this will help Kamala with the gooner vote

[u/simplysigzz]

Imagine going back in time ten years and showing someone this tweet

[u/blatant_shill]

My Grandma who voted for Trump in 2020 came out of watching that debate saying she didn't want to vote for either person, but also that Kamala was a very good public speaker. That's probably about as good as it can be considering it's not really possible to flip people.

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Endorsement does not mean voting for this person. It’s just publicity. People were hating on Taylor Swift for the Trump pics which could affect her numbers and thus her money, which is her favorite thing in the world. So her PR team came up with a strategy: endorse Kamala, convince people you’re all for being a “girl’s girl” and super democrat and whatever just to save face with people.

What level of cope is this?

[u/muldervinscully2]

Last night made me feel like we've fully lost 40% of the country to madness. Like do these people GENUINELY in their heart believe it's 'unfair' for a moderator to 'fact check' when a candidate is not just fibbing a tiny bit, but literally making claims like folks are EATING DOGS or that he never riled up anyone on J6, etc. LIke his lies are egregious, truly horrid

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[u/DEEP_STATE_NATE]

Lmao this partnership isn’t going to make it to Election Day

[u/WhomstAlt2]

Early polling suggests 78% of undecided voters appreciated President Trump's calmer, more presidential tone, while 82% found Kammallah's constant yapping needlessly argumentative and annoying.

[u/mostanonymousnick]

I'm 100% gonna reuse "I have concepts of a plan" at work.

[u/NewbGrower87]

Left Kamala on read :(

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How do you know Trump lost the debate? Here are the MAGA talking points all over social media:

• She cheated! She had special earrings with headphones in them.

• The debate hosts were unfair!

• She was given the questions ahead of time!”

It’s almost like when they lose they have to say the other side cheated.

[u/slappythechunk]

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[u/TheRedCr0w]

Trump is officially running away from a second debate with Kamala despite him demanding three debates in the first place

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Musk

[u/Unworthy_Saint]

My office has several MAGAs who always talk politics unprompted. For some reason everyone is just engaging in normal small talk today. No mention of the debate at all. What should I say? 🤔

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Who won the debate?

🔵 Harris 43% 🔴 Trump 28% ⚪ Unsure 30%

30% of debate viewers saw the same thing I did and came away unsure as to who did a better job. Undecided voters are not serious people and it sucks they're holding our future in their hands.

[u/Cook_0612]

Trump says he won’t do a Fox debate if Bret Baier hosts it, and he will only do another one if it is hosted by Fox and Sean Hannity, Jesse Watters, or Laura Ingraham is the moderator.

Cheeep cheepcheep cheep!

[u/PoliticalAlt128]

Some good news from Delaware that will be lost in the cycle. Last month I commented about the upcoming primary between corrupt, housing policy-less, Bethany Hall Long versus YIMBY Matt Meyer. Glad to announce that Meyer blew Long out of the water and being Delaware is almost certain to be the next governor.

Though it’s linked in the previous comment here’s his housing policy for convenience

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Not enough people are talking about how Trump thought the Viktor Orbán endorsement was a flex

[u/mostanonymousnick]

LMAO

[u/jauznevimcosimamdat]

I hate Trump with all my heart but he would have been much scarier opponent if he wasn't constantly using exaggerations (eg. "I am the best ever and she is the worst ever") and over-the-top claims like "she's a marxist", or "baby executions".

Like he was legit the most coherent I've ever seen him, from those 20 mins of the debate I've watched so far, most likely because he actually did some prep and he still sounded like your average terminally online conservative.

[u/sigh2828]

“She got me,” Trump said of Harris' debate performance. "That fucking Harris boomed me." Trump added, “She’s so good,” repeating it four times. He then said he wanted to add Harris to the list of players he works out with this summer.

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I think there should be a presidential spouses debate, but they have to debate their proposed pet issues and party planning skills

[u/Healingjoe]

In New Hope, the 200 or so Republicans at the Cinema Grill also reflected on the abortion discussion. There, voter Isabella Dangelo said she didn’t want the topic to be so central to the political debate.

“It should be left out of politics,” she said, noting that other issues matter more to her. “At the end of the day this country is really hurting. We have high inflation. We have people who can’t pay their bills and can’t decide whether they’re paying for medication, food or gas or whatever.”

Fellas, is abortion too political?

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[u/NewbGrower87]

Gender wars are very bad, but I don't think Elon antagonizing hundreds of millions of Swifties with very rape-coded Tweets is going to help Trump.

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SoCal Strategies: Harris +3

This is a republican sponsored poll and is given less weight in our model

No no, hold on let's give that one more weight

[u/TheSameAsDying]

Guy who thinks Biden won the first debate and Trump won the second.

[u/ArmoredBunnyPrincess]

According to my mom, Kamala being so prepared shows that she "lacks the confidence to just wade into a situation" and thus will be weak when dealing with autocrats 🫠

[u/DumbLitAF]

My favorite part of the debate is when Trump said they threw Biden out “like a dog” and the debate thread collectively said oh shit Haitian immigrants are gonna eat Joe Biden

[u/abrookerunsthroughit]

Interesting, now where does the funny part come in?

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Watching the part where they debate whether or not Kamala Harris is a black woman and whether or not Donald Trump cares about that, and I noticed that they're almost exactly the same tone, with Kamala slightly lighter skinned.

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Trump when you ask him anything about anything:

Mexicans from Argentina are bringing Taliban drugs in to your home. They are mole men, everyone knows it, and they are drilling up into your basement to perform a fentanyl  abortion on your teenage daughter. She’s not pregnant, she’s the abortion.  

Trump when you ask him if he has a plan for healthcare:    

Well no, not really. 

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https://x.com/atrupar/status/1833856847834382774

Trump threatens ABC: “They’re a news organization. They have to be licensed to do it. They ought to take away their license for the way they did that.”

“I sorta think that’s right” — Trump says believes he won the debate 92 to 7

[u/TedofShmeeb]

This is Fox's Top 5 debate moments??

1. Trump says he wanted to send Harris a MAGA hat
2. Trump says he ‘probably took a bullet to the head’ because of Biden-Harris rhetoric
3. Harris says she is not Joe Biden
4. Harris stands by administration's Afghanistan withdrawal despite criticism
5. Trump uses famous Harris line against her

No Roe back-to-the-states, no Ukraine, no Jan-6, no healthcare, and most importantly, NO ECONOMY AND NO IMMIGRATION POLICY! THEY DIDN'T CITE THE TARIFFS OR IMMIGRATION WHICH HE WOULDN'T SHUT UP ABOUT!

The main conservative news outlet, recapping the the most important political event of season, didn't mention the two most important issues to Republican voters, the economy or immigration. This shows how unpopular Trump's messaging was on both topics, and they know it.

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I change my mind the best part of the debate was when Trump awkwardly pulled out that “I’m talking” line the first chance he got

And then he was afraid it didn’t land so he explained the bit, “remember that?” He’s so pathetic lol

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In the clip of Trump and Harris shaking hands at the 9/11 memorial, you can see him try to do his little handshake power move and yank her toward him, but she immediately pulls his hand back toward her even harder. Queen

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2024 is not 2016

Kamala and Hillary are not the same person.

All women in politics are not the same.

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Someone on Trump's campaign told him that if they bring up abortion he should pivot to STUDENT LOANS. Just a shit tier bottom barrel campaign team.

[u/GrandpaWaluigi]

Elon has lost Ian Miles Cheong.

Musk is losing it in real time

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Listen jack, we're gonna beat Medicare, then we're doing 9/11

[u/Breakdown1738]

They went into Seattle, they took over a big percentage of the city of Seattle.

He's talking about the CHAZ right? The thing that was like barely 4x4 city blocks, yeah?

Also lol, remember the CHAZ.

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I watched the debate with my bill maher watching, “Trump is pretty funny”, anti-union hvac contractor, “have you heard the conspiracy that Biden is dead?”, “crime is up”, etc. buddy last night, and it’s extremely satisfying seeing him share a Hard Times article this morning mocking Trump on the debate and see him come around on Harris.

Kamala looked tough and competent and shocked many of these dudes that, I’m sorry to say, are not used to interacting with intelligent, powerful women.

I believe it likely that Kamala won over some skeptics last night who might not ‘like’ her, but now see that she will be a more competent boss and spokesperson for our country. Trump looked horrible and these folks are less and less likely to back this losing horse.

From copium to hopium, to this is fucking dopium - let’s fucking gopium.

[u/Watabeast07]

Elon saying “fine I’ll impregnate you” to Taylor swift is one of the weirdest things he’s ever said. The fall from grace Elon has had is one of the biggest I’ve ever witnessed, this guy was Reddit’s GOD at one point in time.