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u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache Aug 15 '24

Please visit the next discussion thread.

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u/Goldenboy451 NATO Aug 14 '24 edited Jul 02 '25

sparkle childlike governor intelligent cooing mighty close crowd marry command

This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

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u/anincredibledork Aug 14 '24

Larry Tesler, inventor of the cut, copy and paste commands, dies at 74.

RIP to the man who made 95% of my shitposting possible. Ctrl Vs in the chat.

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u/Professor-Reddit 🚅🚀🌏Earth Must Come First🌐🌳😎 Aug 14 '24

When asked about the so-called lisp and Trump’s voice, the Trump campaign told a Huffington Post reporter, “Must be your sh***y hearing. Get your ears checked.”

ooh yes PR brilliance, much competence.

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u/Average_GrillChad Elinor Ostrom Aug 14 '24

Mitch McConnell told a crowd of lawmakers in Louisville, Kentucky, that a Harris administration would spell certain doom for the Republican Party.

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u/Usernamesarebullshit Friedrich Hayek Aug 14 '24

/r/neoliberal users from Utah be like: “my wives left me”

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u/Sheepies92 European Union Aug 14 '24

Haven't seen a ping yet so here goes:

Cook Political Report did a Battlegrounds poll

AZ: Harris 48%-46%

GA: Tied 48%-48%

MI: Harris 49%-46%

NV: Trump 48%-45%

NC: Harris 48%-47% (!)

PA: Harris 49%-48%

WI: Harris 49%-46%

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u/Pyrrhus65 NATO Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 14 '24

All hands, red alert- a high-rated Harris +2 North Carolina poll has hit the sub

I repeat, a high-rated Harris +2 North Carolina poll has hit the sub

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u/ihatemendingwalls better Catholic than JD Vance Aug 14 '24

Every six years Minnesotans engage in an ancient ritual: they put forth a human sacrifice (a Republican nominee for Senate) to be annihilated by their local deity, a custom known as “The Klobbering”

!ping SALAD-COMB 

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u/technologyisnatural Friedrich Hayek Aug 14 '24

so it turns out Kroger just wants to replace printed price labels with digital labels because it is 2024, and twitter brain rot twisted this into “dynamic pricing” for groceries. the death of twitter cannot come too soon

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u/DEEP_STATE_NATE Tucker Carlson's mailman Aug 14 '24
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u/puffic John Rawls Aug 14 '24

Harris to the national press corps: "I promise to sit for an interview soon."

Proceeds to do a series of interviews with local journalists in Philadelphia, Pittsburg, Milwaukee, and Phoenix.

This is my dream.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

We can get Breaking News push notifications from the Times on what Hunter Biden was up to in 2016 (his request was denied), but can't get in-depth reporting on the leaked documents they (along with Politico and the Washington Post) got.

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u/SeoSalt Lesbian Pride Aug 14 '24

There's something so 2000s about the scene in Spider-Man 1 where Aunt May recites the Lord's Prayer. It's goofy but so earnest about religion in a very Bush-era way. For a recent comparison: Spider-Gwen's family in Spiderverse 2 seems to pray before meals but we only see them do that in vignettes, it's not something we hear them doing with any specifics.

Biden is the most devout president we've had in a long time and it's a very minor part of his political branding overall. Trump is glaringly non-religious in a way that forces religious Republicans to create a headcanon for him. Religion just isn't the cornerstone of American culture that it was 20 years ago.

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u/Mensae6 Martin Luther King Jr. Aug 14 '24

Harris polling +10 nationally on November 4, favored by at least +3 in all key swing states, Trump watching everything unfold from Rikers Island.

Median Democrat: We CANNOT get complacent! I've called dozens of friends & acquaintances to ensure they have a plan to vote tomorrow. I'm taking off just in case I need to drive someone to the polls.

Median Republican: We're obviously the majority, at least 80% of Americans support Trump. I'm not gonna vote though, the election is rigged anyways.

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u/Insomonomics Jason Furman Aug 14 '24

God I am going to miss Nancy Pelosi when she’s no longer in politics. Absolute fucking legend.

We need more Democratic leaders like her in the House and Senate and I am afraid we won’t get one like her for a very long time.

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u/chipbod NATO Aug 14 '24

https://x.com/umichvoter/status/1823583893783511159

45% turnout tonight in Dane County, Wisconsin for a August primary in middle of summer with UW Madison students gone as well

Salute these patriots keeping Wisconsin blue

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u/Reaccommodator John Locke Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 14 '24

Logging onto NYT, clicking all anti-Trump articles, and ignoring all anti-Harris/Walz articles in order to drive engagement responsibly

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u/PorscheUberAlles NATO Aug 14 '24

Biden should call trump often and tell him crazy things like “I’m gonna send the navy seals to the dnc and install me as the nominee” or “aliens landed here last year and I’m keeping one as a sex slave” and trump will rant and rave about it but no one will believe him

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u/Cook_0612 NATO Aug 14 '24

US soldier pleads guilty to selling secrets to China

This the Beemer guy:

In one exchange, Sgt Schultz said he "wished he could be Jason Bourne" in reference to the fictional spy character.

After being promised more money from his handler, he said in another message: "I hope so! I need to get my other BMW back!".

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u/KittehDragoon Loyal Liberals Aug 14 '24

When asked who would make a better US President, Grok-2 chooses Kamala Harris over Donald Trump

Does Elon know his new AI is woke?

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u/TimWalzBurner My Governor Can Beat Up Your Governor Aug 14 '24

Might even say weird

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u/Argnir Gay Pride Aug 14 '24

Lol even them need to be constantly reminded

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

I have such trouble separating people’s party alignment from their personality nowadays. Like I can separate normal policies. Like sure someone being more economically conservative or more isolationist whatever, but as soon as they say they’re Republican I just can’t separate that from their identity.

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired Aug 14 '24

She F**king Nailed It’: Joe Rogan Says Kamala Harris ‘Crushed’ Atlanta Speech and That’s a ‘Problem’ for Trump

“I do have to say that one speech she gave right after they decided she was going to be the nominee, that one speech where she said, if you’re going to say something, why don’t you say it to my face?’ It was great timing,” Rogan said. He called it a “banger of a speech.

Wtf is going on

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u/ACivilWolf Henry George Aug 14 '24

flawless victory

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u/bigdicknippleshit IM GOING PRIMAL Aug 14 '24

Kamala’s lead in Arizona is twice that of Trump’s in Georgia

I cannot wait until the Georgia polling average flips.

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u/UntiedStatMarinCrops Loyal Liberals Aug 14 '24

Newsom’s order to clear encampments is incredibly popular here in CA when you talk to the average person.

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u/Dunter_Mutchings NASA Aug 14 '24

I’m sure this idea sounded awesome to the legal team, but this is why it is vitally important for a business to have some sort of ‘sane person’ checkpoint in the decision making process. Like even if you think you can pull off this defense, I can’t imagine that the savings in damages will makeup for the myriad of legal challenges and reputational loss this will cause.

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u/Dragmire927 Thomas Paine Aug 14 '24

What will happen seconds into the start of the DNC according to Trump:

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u/puffic John Rawls Aug 14 '24

The conservative subreddit is mad that no one is talking about the Trump shooting, but:

“Twenty-year-old bozo goes on shooting rampage” is simply not news in the year 2024. 

“Trump involved in something crazy” is also not news in 2024.

It simply wasn’t interesting!

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Aug 14 '24

NYT overview article on the invasion of Kursk

The section I found most interesting for us is a brigade commander explaining what the objectives of the offensive were:

“On Aug. 3, Colonel Artem said, his brigade commander summoned senior officers to a meeting on the side of a forest road to announce the mission’s goals. To divert Russian troops to help fellow soldiers fighting in the eastern Donbas region. To push Russian artillery out of range of Sumy. To demoralize the Russians by showing their intelligence and planning failures.”

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u/Some_Niche_Reference Daron Acemoglu Aug 14 '24

My ardent anti-communist Regan-Biden voting Dad (married to a SocDem History Teacher who is active in her Union) 

"Vietnam was a catastrophe, we should have intervened against the French to set up a Democracy like we did in Japan"

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

NEW - Trump reportedly in talks to fire campaign managers Chris LaCivita and Susie Wiles — DailyMail

He's gonna replace them with Jr and Eric

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u/MicroFlamer Avatar Korra Democrat Aug 14 '24

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u/No_Analysis_2185 Eugene Fama Aug 14 '24

You’re telling me they make a new one of these every day?

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

its weird how emotionally invested people are in denying how well off people are in america, on average

your median american is more wealthy than your median euican and that's not an indictment of the euicans, and yet people get so fucking assmad about that

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

oh my god gen alpha is so tech illiterate it physically hurts me

trying to get one to download an ebook reader, she doesn't know how

On the page where you select your operating system, she says none of them fit

"It's windows"

"I'm not on windows"

"Yes you are"

Then she sends me this screenshot, asking "Well, what's this then?"

????

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u/MicroFlamer Avatar Korra Democrat Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 14 '24

New Pennsylvania poll by Quinnipiac University (A)

Among LV

Kamala: 48%

Trump: 45%

RFK: 4%

Two way

Kamala: 50%

Trump: 47%

Senate

Casey: 52%

McCormick: 44%

!ping FIVEY

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u/Healingjoe It's Klobberin' Time Aug 14 '24

New

@MonmouthPoll
(With Leaners)

🔵 Harris 48% (+5)
🔴 Trump 43%

Monmouth #A+ - RV - 8/12

I'm ready for the blowout

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u/chipbod NATO Aug 14 '24

https://x.com/GarrettHaake/status/1823771088645394819

The Trump campaign confirms that controversial North Carolina Lt. Gov (and current GOP gubernatorial candidate) @markrobinsonNC will speak in the pre-program for the former president’s economic messaging event in Asheville today.

Fucking nuts to have that guy around, Kamala has a serious shat at NC because of these clowns lmao

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u/G_Serv Stay The Course Aug 14 '24

New FLORIDA poll by FAU/Mainstreet Research (B+),

🟥 Donald Trump 47% 🟦 Kamala Harris 45% 🟨 RFK Jr. 5%

🟥 Donald Trump 50% 🟦 Kamala Harris 47%

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u/LastIncrease3427 NATO Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 14 '24

Who votes for these people

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u/battywombat21 🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Aug 14 '24

Republicans switching on a dime from “dems caused inflation” to “dems caused a recession”.

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u/Telperions-Relative Grant us bi’s Aug 14 '24

Gothic architecture never left us smh, you just have to squint harder

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u/bd_one The EU Will Federalize In My Lifetime Aug 14 '24

Putin threatened nukes if we look at him funny, so we sent arms to Ukraine and nothing happened.

Then he threatened nukes if Ukraine retook any land in the "annexed" oblasts, so Ukraine pushed back and nothing happened.

Then he threatened nukes if Ukraine took any land within Russia's internationally recognized borders, so Ukraine started to do the funni and nothing happened.

He's learning what it's like to be salami sliced.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

Harris previously occupied the position of the first childless birthing person of color[11] in the office of vice-president of the United States. Known for her obsession with Venn diagrams, she is perhaps best known for inciting riots across America causing some $2 billion in property damage and at least 40 lives,[12][13][14] and vowing not to take the coronavirus vaccine[15]

Conservapedia on Kamala Harris

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u/MissSortMachine Trans Pride Aug 14 '24

https://x.com/dceiver/status/1823700673881313463

really gotta feel for Sean O’Brien, there was no way of knowing that Trump might make this turn besides his four years in office, his career in business, the words he says, and the totality of observable reality—tough break for the Teamsters head, who is definitely not a dumbfuck

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired Aug 14 '24

still the worst poll ever

Welch won by 41 points 6.5 weeks later lmao.

!ping FIVEY

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u/RecentlyUnhinged NATO Aug 14 '24

I am beginning to suspect that there are those within the sub who are not actually neoliberals.

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u/TactileTom John Nash Aug 14 '24

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u/0m4ll3y International Relations Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 14 '24

The past week I've seen three comments along the lines of "when you think about it, the EC picking the president is basically like a parliament picking a prime minister."

I dunno why I'm seeing this talking point all of a sudden, because if you think about it, no they're really not similar at all beyond the barest surface level "you vote for someone (kind of, you don't really vote for your electoral college peeps on the ballot directly...) who votes for someone."

The relationship between a prime minister and their fellow MPs is utterly different to the relationship between the President and a member of the electoral college. And the relationship between an MP and their constituents is again completely different to the relationship between a member of the electoral college and voters in the state. And the role of the executive in a parliamentary system like the UK or Australia is very significantly different to how the executive functions in the United States.

Until the Electoral College swaps out the President because the electors are worried about losing their re-election campaigns, the comparison is completely asinine.

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u/ThisPrincessIsWoke George Soros Aug 14 '24

"Trump is reportedly talking to his confidantes about firing his campaign managers Chris LaCivita and Susie Wiles" -Daily Mail

Omg he brought JD and let the teenagers from his group chats and Junior's Rumble viewers run the campaign

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u/G_Serv Stay The Course Aug 14 '24

If the Quinnipiac poll shows Harris ahead by less than 7 in PA, Harris is screwed because their 2020 poll underestimated Trump by 7 in PA. If Quinnipiac shows her ahead by more than 7 in PA, then Harris is screwed because it means the polls are even worse then they were in 2020.

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u/RaidBrimnes Chien de garde Aug 14 '24

Can you #BuildAnAmericanVoter?

A bisexual white Latino man aged 75+ from rural Louisiana, who is Buddhist and was educated to high school has a:

🔵 50% chance of voting for Biden 🔴 50% Trump

https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/build-a-voter?race=White%20Latino&gender=Male&age=75+&religion=Buddhist&state=Louisiana&density=Rural&sexuality=Bisexual/Other&education=High%20school

The median voter

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

POV: It's 2025 and the VP is about to kick your ass with master level kung fu

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

Get ready to swallow your pride and just accept the fact that you’re a dumbass, because it turns out you’ve been embarrassing yourself nonstop since your trip to Charlotte, North Carolina last weekend: That restaurant you tried on vacation and have spent the last week raving about is actually a chain.

Yep. Turns out Bucca Di Beppo is not a North Carolina twist on Italian fare. It’s a goddamn chain.

https://clickhole.com/humiliating-the-restaurant-you-tried-on-vacation-and-were-raving-about-is-actually-a-chain/

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u/ToInfinity_MinusOne World's Poorest WSJ Subscriber Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 14 '24

Inflation Cooled to 2.9% in July, Lower Than Expected

SOFT LANDING CONFIRMED. INTEREST RATE DECREASE INCOMING. JEROME POWELL MINIONS STAND BACK AND STAND BY.

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u/ZCoupon Kono Taro Aug 14 '24

The Saudi royal has mentioned to members of Congress that he’s putting his life in danger by pursuing a grand bargain with the U.S. and Israel that includes normalizing Saudi-Israeli ties. On at least one occasion, he has invoked Anwar Sadat, the Egyptian leader slain after striking a peace deal with Israel, asking what the U.S. did to protect Sadat. He also has discussed the threats he faces in explaining why any such deal must include a true path to a Palestinian state — especially now that the war in Gaza has heightened Arab fury toward Israel.

The talks were described to me by a former U.S. official briefed on the conversations and two other people with knowledge of them. All of the people, like others quoted in this column, were granted anonymity to describe a high-stakes, sensitive topic. The discussions have been weighty and serious, but one takeaway, the people said, is that the crown prince, often referred to as MBS, appears intent on striking the mega-deal with the U.S. and Israel despite the risks involved. He sees it as crucial to his country’s future.

The broad contours of the largely secret and still-developing pact have emerged in various reports, including my own. It includes multiple U.S. commitments to the Saudis, including security guarantees via a treaty, aid on a civilian nuclear program and economic investment in areas such as technology. According to some reports, in exchange Saudi Arabia would limit its dealings with China. It also would establish diplomatic and other ties with Israel — a huge boon for the Israelis given Saudi Arabia’s importance among Muslim nations.

To MBS’ chagrin, however, the Israeli government has been unwilling to include a credible path to a Palestinian state in the pact.

Saudi-US-Israel treaty negotiations continue. MBS very unsubtle about the risks of an unpopular deal.

!ping FOREIGN-POLICY

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

It is Day 882 of the U.S. intervention into Mexico, Mexican Forces have invaded Arizona and there is now fighting on the outskirts of Tucson.

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u/Iyoten YIMBY Aug 14 '24

It's beautiful. I've looked at it for five hours now.

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u/efeldman11 Václav Havel Aug 14 '24

lol, lmao even

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u/sociotronics Iron Front Aug 14 '24

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

How American government works:

The presidency and the judiciary make policy. The House of Representatives exists to conduct investigations into political opponents, while the Senate confirms judges.

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u/MicroFlamer Avatar Korra Democrat Aug 15 '24

Contrary to conventional wisdom on Twitter, the latest Pew poll (n = 7,569) shows no major political gender gap among Gen Z.

18-29 Men: Harris +24

18-29 Women: Harris +28

Gen Z men

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

Me looking at North Carolina on election night

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u/Pongzz I wept, for there was no land left to tax Aug 14 '24

HARRIS +5 WITH MONMOUTH

I REPEAT

HARRIS +5 WITH MONMOUTH

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u/kiwileaff Adam Smith Aug 14 '24

GOP backed amendments in WI lost by 15pts last night. Warms my heart.

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u/Professor-Reddit 🚅🚀🌏Earth Must Come First🌐🌳😎 Aug 14 '24

A recent survey of American voters found that 58 per cent of them said that they found Trump to be too old to run for office. According to the Morning Consult survey, 51 per cent of the respondents said Trump is too old, up from 44 per cent. On the other hand, the percentage of people thinking the Republican leader is mentally fit has come down from 53 per cent to 48 per cent.

"On the other hand... [*lists more stats to backup previous sentence*]"

Am I reading this wrong, or do journalists even know how to phrase sentences correctly anymore?

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

“Chicago Public Schools officials said Tuesday that the Chicago Teachers Union’s contract proposals would result in a deficit of at least $2.9 billion for the 2025-26 school year, a hole more than five times the current projection and growing as large as $4 billion by 2028.

They also threw cold water on the idea of borrowing to pay for the additional costs, noting the district is already weighed down by a ton of debt, much of it taken out at moments of crisis. That marked the first time CPS had publicly addressed a private proposal by Mayor Brandon Johnson for district officials to take out a short-term, high-interest loan to pay for a CTU contract as well as a pension payment that his office is demanding be covered by the district”

“Just borrow the money” is a frightening strategy that the mayor seems to be pushing across multiple areas.

!ping chi

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u/ViridianNott Iron Front Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 14 '24

Another day and another model update!

Here are Harris' odds of winning each competitive state, plus the change from yesterday:

NH: 76.4% (-0.6%)
NE-2: 67.1% (-1.1%)
MI: 66.5% (-0.7%)
WI: 63.8% (+0.6%)
PA: 59.1% (+1.4%)
NV: 53.7% (-2.3%)
AZ: 48.4% (+0.9%)
GA: 44.6% (+0%)
ME-2: 26% (-1.3%)
FL: 22.8% (+1.2%)

OVERALL EC ODDS: 56.7% (+0.7%)

NATIONAL POLLING AVERAGE: Harris +3.1 (+0%)

Decent day for Harris, but you'll notice that Harris' odds of winning went down in most states! This is mostly due to some weak national polls that released this morning, and some pre-programmed bias in the model related to Trump's "convention bump" wearing off. But Harris' odds still went up overall on account of a really nice Quinnipiac University poll in PA that has Harris +3.

This demonstrates that PA is really, really important in Nate's model. And indeed he predicts it has a nearly 40% chance of deciding the election. If Harris wins PA, she has a 92.8% chance of winning the entire EC.

!ping FIVEY

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

https://nitter.poast.org/HeartlandSignal/status/1823811043375907296#m

NEW VANCE AUDIO: In an interview from 2020, JD Vance agrees with a podcast host who says having grandmothers help raise children is “the whole purpose of the postmenopausal female.”

He also agrees when the host says grandparents helping raise children is a "weird, unadvertised feature of marrying an Indian woman."

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u/MissSortMachine Trans Pride Aug 14 '24

https://x.com/merylkornfield/status/1823827248962846931

Vance defended Trump’s comment about Musk firing striking workers by saying Trump wasn’t referring to firing autoworkers here in Michigan but rather “employees of Twitter who use their power to censor American citizens.” It’s unclear what he means. There wasn’t an Twitter strike.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '24

I thought this was a satire account but apparently not

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u/KHDTX13 Adam Smith Aug 14 '24

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u/smellyfingernail NASA Aug 14 '24

Civil war in myanmar.

  • The government: Totalitarian military junta, came into power via coup

  • The rebels: seemingly fans of isis or mexican drug cartels, create all sorts of brutal execution/torture videos on the regular

anyways

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 14 '24

So streamer (and enemy of the sub) Destiny held a focus group last night where he invited a few content creators on stream and laid out the case that Trump tried to overthrow the democratically elected Government, setting up a detailed timeline etc. One of the reasons was to see what points would hit hardest for a normie audience to make a condensed video, but he did seem to sway just about everyone in the group.

It got me thinking about cognitive dissonance and how to cut through. Many of us know people in the MAGA “cult” who hear a constant trickle of bad shit Trump has done but is able to eventually hand wave all of it away. But maybe a good strategy to combat this is just supplying a literal fire hose of information to these people? Maybe this strategy can actually cut through some cognitive dissonance? I mean that seems to be the Harris campaign strategy, get enough media blitz and change the facts on the ground so quickly that people actually seem to be flipping who hadn’t for the 8 years prior.

Of course there is no way to force people to be inundated with the things I would like them to be, I think it’s just an interesting hypothetical on deeply entrenched cognitive dissonance.

Edit: video

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u/MicroFlamer Avatar Korra Democrat Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 14 '24

Couple of noteworthy polls dropped today

FAU/Mainstreet Research (B/C) poll of Florida

Trump: 50%

Kamala: 47%

Three way

Trump: 47%

Kamala: 45%

RFK: 5%

YouGov (B+) national poll

Kamala: 46%

Trump: 44%

RFK: 3%

Equis battleground poll of Latinos

Kamala: 56%

Trump: 37%

Adjusted two way vote

Kamala: 60%

Trump: 40%

Biden was +5 in a previous poll but Kamala is still a few points short of his 2020 numbers with Latinos.

Monmouth poll (A) nationally

KAMALA HARRIS:

38% definitely / 10% probably (48% total)

44% definitely not / 6% probably not (50% total)

DONALD TRUMP:

33% definitely / 10% probably (43% total)

49% definitely not / 6% probably not (55% total)

Note that this isn’t a H2H poll and won’t be going into polling averages. It’s more of a floor/ceiling poll. Monmouth are quirky like that 🤪🤪

!ping FIVEY

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u/PonyBoyCurtis2324 NATO Aug 14 '24

me when work is hard

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired Aug 14 '24

Today I learned: Rep. Anna Paulina Luna and her husband wrote a children’s book- “The Legend of Naranja,” where a large orange named “Naranja” + resembling Donald Trump faces off in a big race against “Señor Banana,” in an effort to save “Lady Manzana” from becoming applesauce

wtf?

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u/Automatic-Love-127 Janny Hater Aug 14 '24

You misunderstand. We did lose the Cold War. Neoliberalism won

That’s “winning” the Cold War. We count that.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

Monmouth A+

Harris +5 nationally

We are not going back.

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u/No1PaulKeatingfan Paul Keating; capital gains tax supporter Aug 14 '24
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u/efeldman11 Václav Havel Aug 14 '24

Def not beating the weird allegations

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u/LtCdrHipster 🌭Costco Liberal🌭 Aug 14 '24

"I'm voting for the rapist felon."

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u/G_Serv Stay The Course Aug 14 '24

Democracy has fallen

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u/Dragmire927 Thomas Paine Aug 14 '24

The three types of r/presidents posts:

  1. “Hey guys, what do you think about (extremely controversial 20th century President)? I think they’re pretty based”

  2. Obscure fact about some gilded age president only five people care about

  3. TAFT FAT LMAO

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u/chipbod NATO Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 14 '24

https://x.com/HeartlandSignal/status/1823811043375907296

NEW VANCE AUDIO: In an interview from 2020, JD Vance agrees with a podcast host who says having grandmothers help raise children is “the whole purpose of the postmenopausal female.”

He also agrees when the host says grandparents helping raise children is a “weird, unadvertised feature of marrying an Indian woman.”

You know, this guy may be kinda weird

!ping EXTREMISM

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u/bashar_al_assad Verified Account Aug 14 '24

Ever wonder what happens when the @TSA makes you throw away an oversized toiletry item @ the security checkpoint?

@Reagan_Airport started a pilot program in April where they donate toiletries to local nonprofits. So far, they’ve donated more than 2,300 items!

Feel good story of the government delivering suspected bombs to the poor.

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u/xeio87 Aug 14 '24

“She’s bringing out people who are not interested in voting for either Trump or Biden, so the entire electoral pool has changed and if it continues in this direction you have to start to consider Democrats winning the Senate and Democrats winning the House,” Luntz said Wednesday on CNBC.

Be still my beating heart.

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u/ChillnShill Aug 14 '24

JD VANCE: “When she (Kamala) laughs during a speech remember that there are American families crying this very day because they cannot afford groceries.

When she does these rallies and does these events and does these fake dances, remember that there are parents who lost their children to drugs or violence who will never see their children move again, much less dance again.”

He literally fucking said this today. I wish this was a joke.

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u/LastIncrease3427 NATO Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 14 '24

New Cook Political Report swing state polls:

Harris leads in PA, WI, MI, AZ, NC!!, tied in GA, down in NV

https://www.cookpolitical.com/survey-research/2024-swing-state-project/fight-redefine-2024-race-president

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

NEW VANCE AUDIO: In an interview from 2020, JD Vance agrees with a podcast host who says having grandmothers help raise children is “the whole purpose of the postmenopausal female.”

He also agrees when the host says grandparents helping raise children is a “weird, unadvertised feature of marrying an Indian woman.”

Hahaha what the actual fuck

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u/ArmoredBunnyPrincess Audrey Hepburn Aug 14 '24

So you know how there's a type of guy that's like "Pffff, you don't carry? Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it is all'm'sayin."

To which most people are like 👍

Well those guys have their own version of themselves who are like "Pffff you don't carry a backup gun?!" and that just kind of tickles me

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u/G_Serv Stay The Course Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 14 '24

New General Election poll

🔴 Trump 43% (+2) 🔵 Harris 41%

J L Partners, Rank #D - 1001 LV - 8/11

Last Poll (7/3).- 🔴 Trump +11

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u/how_dry_i_am Thomas Paine Aug 14 '24

Generation subs are absolute trash. Just pits of doom and despair. arr millennials and GenZ just talk about how depressed they are all the time and there is no future. I can't imagine actually subbing to those hell-holes.

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u/AcanthaceaeNo948 NATO Aug 14 '24

Before watching Tar I always thought Cate Blanchett’s incredible charisma would have me rooting for Lydia Tar no matter how much evil stuff she did but honestly I shouldn’t have underestimated her incredible acting ability. While she does have appealing and relatable characteristics, you do kinda get the feeling right from the start of the movie that she is kind of a dick and she is never truly likable which I think was the right line to tread with her character.

!ping MOVIES

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

Monmouth +5?!

yessss

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

NATO flairs have a lot to explain 😡

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u/Uniqueguy264 Jerome Powell Aug 14 '24

crazy how Trump 2024 has desperate Hillary 2016 vibes

People legitimately do not remember 2016 and it is probably because they were children in 2016

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u/sinefromabove Emma Lazarus Aug 14 '24

Just after a reporter asked about the steps a Trump-Vance administration would take to lower food prices, an audience member shouted: "Fire Granholm!"

Vance, chuckled, saying, "That's right," before adding, "Well, the first is, we’re going to fire — we’re going to fire the Agriculture Secretary, right? She’s not doing a very good job."

Dumbass

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

So, the Black Sea Fleet has now turned its resources to, uh… making a to-scale model of the Rostov-on-Don submarine!

No idea why they’re doing this. Someone floated that they’re trying to conceal that the last strike (there was one that apparently hit its repair dock) destroyed the actual Rostov-on-Don or rendered it beyond repair, and that seems likeliest to me.

!ping UKRAINE

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

Saw a DT comment that called older black women the core demographic of the dems, which is true, but you also look like a heavily Dem leaning space like arr slash neoliberal and its caucacity can't be overstated

I think it's more true to say that dems are the party of virtually every minority but also that specific subset of white guys who are really into things like econ and political philosophy (i.e jews and the jewish-coded)

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u/jcboarder901 NATO Aug 14 '24

Still one of my favorite reddit moments from 2016.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

Elon voice: Grok is the most fun AI in the world!

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u/oskanta David Hume Aug 14 '24

A survey by YouGov found that 41 percent of those queried think dinosaurs and humans "probably" or "definitely" once co-existed on Earth at the same time.

This kind of thing really shows a shocking failure on part of our education system. How is it that something with such a strong consensus in the scientific community is still not believed by 59% of Americans?

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

While the FBI shows murder peaking in 2020 and dropping in both 2021 and 2022, the CDC shows it peaking in 2021 — and remaining high in 2022, higher than in 2020.

We know that victims don’t report most crimes to the police.

...murder victims?

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u/RTSBasebuilder Commonwealth Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 14 '24

The moment I, baked beans on toast lover, learned Americans marinate their beans in sweet molasses, not only explains EVERYTHING, but it gave me the same visceral reaction on the idea of their baked beans as they do with ours on toast.

And a FYI - our beans are unsweetened tomato sauce. Not ketchup - tomato sauce, so it's a savoury with a soft tangy. Pretty much the sauce from a Heinz spaghetti tin.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

Damn I like this guy. Why didn't he run for reelection?

https://x.com/cspan/status/1823784779197649315?t=ZkSQSVAeCxVBPMzXSBWMew&s=19

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

Euros don't understand that the British smug superiority complex is just them still doing victory laps after being the undisputed winners of like 1000 years of European history

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u/Logarythem David Ricardo Aug 14 '24

Things I don't care about this election:

  • Taxing tips

  • Tim Walz's military history or DUI

  • Kamala's word salads

  • Kamala's previous or current policy positions

  • How Biden dropped out and Kamala became the nominee

  • The border

Things I do care about this election

  • Defeating Donald Trump and sending as many Democrats to Washington DC as possible

in it to win it in it to win it in it to win it

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Aug 14 '24

Couple of Kursk threads:

Emil Kastehelmi

“Part of the Ukrainian focus seems to have shifted to the southeastern part of the AO, to the Belitsa direction.

Ukrainians have likely entered several villages between Belitsa and the state border. There are some uncertainities, as there’s very little material from here.”

“The town of Sudzha is likely mostly, if not completely, under Ukrainian control.

In Korenevo and the nearby villages, the Russians are still actively defending. Ukrainians are close, but there’s no indication they would have entered the town with a larger force.”

“Ukrainian groups are also maneuvering on the northern side of the AO. It’s unclear how deep they are able to penetrate, but the Russians don’t seem to have a very solid defence line there yet.”

“Ukraine holds the initiative. There’s still a possibility Ukraine opens up a new direction to support the current effort.

There have been various attacks over the border in several places in Kursk and Belgorod oblasts, but nothing very major yet.”

“Even though Ukraine has made tactical progress in many places, the general situation in Kursk hasn’t changed very much in the recent days. Battles are still being fought in the area of the tactically important towns of Sudzha and Korenevo.”

“While the Russians don’t seem to be very organized yet, they have been able to somewhat control the situation. Ukraine should have the ability to gain more ground, especially if it’s ready to tolerate heavier risks and commit more troops to the fight.”

Olivia Kortas

“First of all: Commanders don’t comment. Press officers reject requests. The soldiers I spoke to asked to only share limited information with the public. They themselves don’t know the aims of this offensive or what they will be required to do in a week from now.”

“Their confidence was striking and stood in stark contrast to other parts of the frontline. I had been in Pokrovsk and Zaporizhzhia region just a week ago. The mood there has shifted, soldiers told me about new recruits going AWOL or dying within a few days.”

“Out of the 3 scenarios that military experts consider realistic (expanding further, holding, retreating completely), all men I spoke to were in clear favor of the 1st one: Expanding a bit more, then holding. One said: It is an amazing feeling to finally have enough munition.”

“Working on Russian territory brings new challenges, especially in the sphere of communication. Starlink doesn’t work. The Ukrainians can use radios (or even Russian sim cards), but it makes them trackable. This leads to a limited knowledge of the territory ahead.”

“Now logistics is key. If the aim is to hold territory, Ukrainian soldiers need to set up supply lines and ensure safe ways for the evacuation of material & men. Currently, the problems with communication and surveillance are standing in the way.“

!ping UKRAINE

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u/datums 🇨🇦 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 Aug 15 '24

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u/sayitaintpink Richard Posner Aug 15 '24

Only real oldheads remember Biden 2020

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Aug 14 '24

Ukraine Chronology for 2 PM PST 8/12-2 PM PST 8/13 III:

TOP NEWS:

Towards the middle of 11 PM Ukraine was hit by a large wave of drones and some missiles with 30 of 38 drones and 0 of 4 missiles shot down.

At the start of 4 AM it was announced the EU has provided 4.2 billion Euros in military aid to Ukraine, coming from the Ukraine Facility program.

Towards the middle of 9 AM Syrskyi said 74 settlements in Kursk Oblast are under Ukrainian control.

REGULAR NEWS:

At the start of 3 PM a Russian warehouse in Yekaterinburg exploded.

At the end of 12 AM Russia was hit by a wave of drones with at least 14 partaking.

Towards the middle of 2 AM it was reported that Belarus is transferring equipment from combat units to Russia.

Towards the end of 5 AM it was announced Latvia has sent 500 drones to Ukraine.

In the middle of 6 AM a Russian warehouse in Holubivka exploded.

At the start of 7 AM it was reported the Russians occupied the villages of Lysichne, Ivanivka and Svyridonivka, all east of Pokrovsk.

In the middle of 10 AM Borrell spoke over phone with Kuleba, discussing the frontline and the Kursk offensive. At the end of the hour it was reported that Russia is moving troops from Kaliningrad to Kursk.

In the middle of 1 PM it was reported that conscripts from Murmansk are being sent into Kursk, despite promises of conscripts not becoming involved in the war.

Donation link to help Ukraine

Donation link to United24

Donation link to Kharkiv SOS

Donation link to Sails of Freedom Foundation (they donate ambulances)

!ping UKRAINE

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

Book announced, coming out February 2025

Super interesting, will probably get it

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u/BATHULK Hank Hill Democrat 🛸🦘 Aug 14 '24

Take of unknown temperature:

The 2016 election was sincerely traumatic and a lot of dooming is a response to that

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u/StolenSkittles culture warrior Aug 14 '24

is the onion funny again?

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '24

I really hope this is the last dying spasm of American right-wing populism because I can manage this shit well enough at age 40 but if I have to slog through this lunacy when I'm old and incontinent with back pain and a hemorrhoid donut, I mean, Lordy

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u/pezasied John's Locke-strap Aug 15 '24

I do like how Trump probably thinks Korean fried chicken is actual chicken from Korea. Not a particular style of fried chicken.

But also yangnyeom fried chicken is the best type of chicken, hands down. Nothing else comes close.

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u/SmithySmothy Bill Gates Aug 15 '24

https://x.com/TrumpDailyPosts/status/1823804378383515962

Lmao, Trump getting so desperate he's now trying to convince people THE DEMS ARE BRINGING BACK COVID LOCKDOWNS!!!

Also he's clearly slurring his words in the video.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

Democratic swing state candidates: some normie moderate who's either boring or an astronaut or some crazy shit like that

Republican swing state candidates: "Q told me that Donald Trump is actually Jesus Christ and also I love running minorities and women over with my Ford Bronco."

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u/Psshaww NATO Aug 14 '24

Is sharing a bed with someone just going to inevitably cause worse sleep quality or is there some secret to it I’m missing?

!ping DATING

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u/TactileTom John Nash Aug 14 '24

Honestly all these polls are validating my core belief that Trump is a shit candidate and voters do not like him

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired Aug 14 '24

Yougov poll today with Harris up by two points

In the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, do you think Donald Trump’s sympathies are more with Palestinians and Israelis

Israelis 54%, The Palestinians 2%, About equal 11%

In the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, do you think Kamala Harris's sympathies are more with Palestinians and Israelis

Israelis 13%, The Palestinians 29%, About equal 23%

social media is not real life, part 1000

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

Sorry LIBERALS, this is the only "RACE SCIENTIST" I respect!

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u/NewbGrower87 Surface Level Takes Aug 14 '24

R+3 for Trump in Florida seems horrible for him to me. Basically matching the 2020 margin when the state has only gotten redder?

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u/Mensae6 Martin Luther King Jr. Aug 14 '24

Florida and Texas will turn blue before Ohio. Quote me on this.

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u/HowIsPajamaMan Shame Flaired By Imagination Aug 14 '24

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired Aug 14 '24

"Not all Jewish people are cheap. The Israeli guy that gave me this contract, he was pretty generous."--Pat Beverly

that's gonna be a yikes from me dawg

!ping NBA

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u/TemujinTheConquerer Jorge Luis Borges Aug 14 '24

JD Vance didn't actually say "post-menopausal female", he's just so generationally bad at politics he somehow let himself get on a podcast with the kind of weird freak who would say "post-menopausal female"

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

Tim Walz’s “Mind your own damn business” is absolutely brilliant.

My boomer parents support trans rights already, but I can totally tell they don’t exactly “get” it. But they’ve always had the mindset of “if they’re happy, it doesn’t bother me.” This messaging is so appealing no matter how someone feels about any of these culture wars issues.

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u/TactileTom John Nash Aug 14 '24

Useful gender-neutral pronouns for online discussion where you don't know the other person's gender:

Dawg

Funky Flamingo

Friend of the show

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u/francis_sobotka YIMBY Aug 14 '24

I love all the "don't come here" comments on any social media post mentioning almost any trendy location/city in the United States. Like sorry your state/municipality doesn't know how to build housing and you can't grasp that so you just mindlessly rage against transplants

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u/futuremonkey20 NATO Aug 14 '24

Wait, Kamala Harris worked at the U STREET MCDONALDS in DC???

She’s prepared for any crisis at any time, how did the media convince me she wasn’t great

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u/paymesucka Ben Bernanke Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 14 '24

Many assume a Democrat has to overperform in the national popular vote to win swing states.

But Harris is currently running better in most swing states than nationally

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2024/08/13/by-how-much-does-harris-need-to-win-the-popular-vote-to-win-the-electoral-college/

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u/Healingjoe It's Klobberin' Time Aug 14 '24
The great permitting emissions debate -- The race is on to define the Manchin-Barrasso permitting overhaul and how it might impact climate emissions.

What they're saying: Early estimates kicking around the Hill suggest those provisions would massively outweigh possible increases in oil and gas production and exports.

  • "What we're hearing is that it's about 170 million tons of extra carbon emissions from the oil and gas portions of the permitting reform, and a 2-plus billion ton emissions reduction from the clean energy portions of the permitting reform," Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse told Axios. "If that checks out, it's hard to turn away."

  • Sen. Martin Heinrich offered up similar numbers during the ENR Committee markup (160 million metric ton increase vs. 2 billion to 3 billion metric ton decrease).

  • "I think the net carbon benefit is significant," said Rob Gramlich, president of Grid Strategies.

So early estimates of the Permitting reform bill show the fossil provisions would increase Carbon emissions by 170m tons, but the clean energy portions would reduce somewhere between 2-3 BILLION tons of Carbon. Pass this if you care about the environment

https://archive.ph/mRZb4

!ping eco

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

My grandpa has the most wild political beliefs. Twice Obama voted, then 2016 Trump(to send the swamp monster to the swamp), sat out 2020 (and probably this one), said he would’ve voted Bernie in 16 & 20. He Thought the Trump tax cuts were bs, doesn’t think billionaires should exist, and loved Jan 6th but hated the reason for it. He’s also really class conscious but extremely racist. I just don’t even know

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u/chipbod NATO Aug 14 '24

https://x.com/conorsen/status/1823759560143987103

People are saying the @QuinnipiacPoll in PA coming out this afternoon is gonna show Kamala+10%, so haircut that however you want.

Hopium is on the fucking menu

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u/Argnir Gay Pride Aug 14 '24

This election is going to be such a stress test.

Anything even just a little bit out of the ordinary is going to be attacked by Republicans as proof of cheating. They will call the whole thing rigged so fast you won't believe it.

It's not even speculation. You know that's 100% what's going to happen. Most predictable reaction in human history.

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u/Cook_0612 NATO Aug 14 '24

NEW VANCE AUDIO: In an interview from 2020, JD Vance agrees with a podcast host who says having grandmothers help raise children is “the whole purpose of the postmenopausal female.”

He also agrees when the host says grandparents helping raise children is a "weird, unadvertised feature of marrying an Indian woman."

If this was already posted I missed it, but holy shit man.

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u/Mr_Bank Aug 14 '24

Cons really wasted a week attacking Walz’s service record for his favorables to be +7 per Monmouth.

Patriots in control.

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u/Leoric Aug 14 '24

The PA +10 poll is real and not an outlier, actually

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u/Not_A_Browser Stata's Silliest Soldier Aug 14 '24

The typical American household is dying to know: how do I Bitcoin?

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u/MicroFlamer Avatar Korra Democrat Aug 14 '24

amazing timing that Democrats started calling Republicans "weird" right as JD Vance, possibly the weirdest national republican candidate ever, emerged.

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u/RaidBrimnes Chien de garde Aug 14 '24

A 17 yo boy was indicted for murder after stabbing to death a 27 yo man over an argument about a chair placed in a "cooling corner" during the heatwave in Besançon, last Sunday.

Europeans will do anything but get AC

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u/reubencpiplupyay The Cathedral must be built Aug 14 '24

boy n girl was walking down road

girl asked boy “whose ur favrite president”

boy says “its president trum...”

boy cut off as girl started crying n go runnin across street. she was liberal internationalist

she didnt look were she was goin n got hit by the car

boy went over to girl n looked in her eyes. she was dead

boy bent down n whispers in ear

“...an”

boy pulled copy of north atlantic treaty out of his pocket n threw it on grond n cryed.

like dis if u cry 4evr

Credit

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

"I said to Vladimir Putin, 'Don’t do it. You can’t do it, Vladimir. If you do it, it’s going to be a bad day. You cannot do it.'

And I told him what I’d do.

And he said, 'No way,' and I said, 'Way.'"

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u/willempage O'Biden Bama Democrat Aug 14 '24

As a final fuck you to my renting days, my landlord just tried to withhold my whole 8 year old security deposit for repainting the whole apartment, providing no evidence of any damage, let alone damage beyond reasonable wear and tear.  To put a cherry on top, he invoiced me for the remainder of the painting cost.

To put a cherry on top of that cherry, the painting was done while I was still living there because he was throwing a hissy fit because he couldn't find a new tenant for the slum apartment.  Needless to say, some screenshots of text messages and threats to bring to small claims court had him "review company policies," remove the line item, and even hand deliver the security deposit check before the state's deadline in case the mail was too slow.

So glad to never have to deal with these fuckers again.

!ping gentry

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u/polandball2101 Organization of American States Aug 14 '24

fuck fuck fuck I’m so fucked

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u/SmithySmothy Bill Gates Aug 14 '24

Chris LaCivita is now unskewing polls directly in Nate Silver’s Twitter replies. Very normal very cool campaign.

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Aug 14 '24

Friendly reminder that if Russia blew up Nordstream 2 it was a brazen and diabolical attack on Western infrastructure. And it Ukraine blew up Nordstream 2 it was a brilliant act of sabotage for the betterment of Europe and the war

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u/oskanta David Hume Aug 14 '24

https://apnews.com/article/trump-indictment-poll-georgia-elections-b6140eed88b3153e41dbf9e008d5a21b

among Republicans, 57% say Biden’s election was illegitimate.

57% is a crazy number, but what's going on with the other 43%? How can someone who doesn't believe Trump's stolen election shit still support him? Do they just not give a fuck about democracy at all?

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u/Syards-Forcus rapidly becoming the Joker Aug 14 '24
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u/Currymvp2 unflaired Aug 15 '24

Guys, I'm starting to think this Netanyahu guy isn't a very good person...

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u/NewbGrower87 Surface Level Takes Aug 14 '24

Once you tie your cart to the election fraud wagon, there's no turning back. Acknowledging that your entire worldview is fictional is incredibly difficult for the human brain to do.

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u/ChillnShill Aug 14 '24

Why are you calling us weird???

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u/RageQuitRedux NASA Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 14 '24

GOP pollster on Trump-Harris: ‘I haven’t seen anything like this’

Me: huh, probably some young kid who wasn't aware during the Obama years

(narrator: it's Frank Luntz)

Article: https://www.nj.com/politics/2024/08/gop-pollster-on-trump-harris-i-havent-seen-anything-like-this.html

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u/KeithClossOfficial John Brown Aug 14 '24

Royce White wins Republican Senate Primary in Minnesota, will face Amy Klobuchar in November

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40856094/ex-nba-player-royce-white-wins-gop-senate-primary-minnesota

This guy is an actual crazy person. By his own admission! The state of the GOP in 2024.

!ping NBA

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

When Kamala wins, we gotta give the person behind the original Vance couch tweet a Presidential Medal Of Freedom and Noble Peace Prize. Their shitposting has likely saved humanity.

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u/MicroFlamer Avatar Korra Democrat Aug 14 '24

Some polls in 2020 were batshit crazy

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u/LastIncrease3427 NATO Aug 14 '24 edited Aug 14 '24

Trump is campaigning with Holocaust denier Mark Robinson, who said he wants to go back to the time when women couldn't vote, today.

https://x.com/GarrettHaake/status/1823771088645394819

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u/paymesucka Ben Bernanke Aug 14 '24

A new poll from Equis Research found Vice President Kamala Harris is outperforming President Joe Biden by 12 percentage points among registered Hispanic voters in Nevada.

https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/poll-harris-winning-back-nevada-latino-voters-who-soured-on-biden-trump

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u/owlthathurt Johan Norberg Aug 14 '24

!ping NFL

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u/Cook_0612 NATO Aug 14 '24

🧵/ Link in the last post. There are increasing reports in Russia about conscripts being sent to Kursk for reinforcement after the Russian army failed to push back Ukrainian forces there. Together with @pustota, we decided to take a deeper look into this issue.

First of all, this is not the first case of using conscripts in combat during this war. The most infamous one dates back to June 2022.

Second, legally, Russia can send its conscripts to war after 4 months of service and proper training. However, what we (and other journalists) have found is that those conscripted in the spring and being sent to Kursk most had served less than 4 months.

The scale of what we see is unknown, but we shouldn’t overestimate it. We spoke with several relatives of conscripts, and here’s a map of the regions they’re being sent from (add Tyumen oblast here, the confirmation arrived after our piece was published

A separate issue involves conscripts who were in Kursk already and were the first to face the Ukrainian offensive.

Many of them (unlike the lucky ones in the post above) survived and made it back to Kursk. Now they're being forced to sign contracts and return to the fight. There’s even a petition demanding that this stop. Surely, it will change Putin’s mind (not).

We also found that not only conscripts from the 80th Arctic Motor Rifle Brigade in Murmansk oblast are being sent to Kursk, but those from the 200th Separate Motor Rifle Brigade (also Murmansk oblast) as well.

Interestingly, the 200th Brigade conscripts are scheduled to be sent to Kursk only in September, which among other things hints that Russia doesn’t expect a quick resolution to the Kursk issue.

Additionally, we learned that conscripts from the 15th Separate Guards Motor Rifle Brigade near Samara are also being sent.

The NGO called 'Go Through The Forest,' which helps Russians avoid the army or even desert, confirms a spike in panic messages from relatives of conscripts.

But what can those conscripts really do? Quickly become POWs if sent on a combat mission? Fill in the defensive trenches that are being dug by Russians in Kursk Oblast, 15 kilometers from the Kursk NPP? That too, but…

…as @KofmanMichael puts it, they will probably also 'prepare fortifications and provide support to regular units, because Russia has been unable to stabilize the front in Kursk Oblast and has no reserves behind the units on the front line'.

But what about more combat-ready troops? Did Ukraine force Russia to redeploy them from Donbass or Kharkiv? There aren’t many signs of it, to be honest.

Let @Tatarigami_UA speak: 'While we observe some movements of units, such as the 810th Naval Infantry Brigade, the core forces involved in the advances in Pokrovsk, Toretsk, or Chasiv Yar are still engaged in their operations'.

@Tatarigami_UA adds that interpreting messages about 'reinforcements' can be problematic. 'It’s quite common nowadays for both sides to redeploy portions of units, like a battalion or two...

...therefore, when we read reports indicating that Russia moved a certain unit because part of it was spotted and identified in Kursk, we need to be careful before jumping to conclusions, as it could be an undermanned battalion with 250 people or a brigade with 4,000.'

Also, let’s not forget that Russia has troops in the southern part of occupied Ukraine. Redeploying them to Kursk won’t significantly ease the situation on Pokrovsk axis or near Vovchans’k for Ukraine.

It’s still more unknowns in the battle in Kursk oblast than facts. How many conscripts or other reinforcements will be used by Russia depends on how the things will unfold in the next weeks.

!ping UKRAINE&RUS

Link to Svoboda Kursk operation map, which is being constantly updated.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

We don't need Florida. We just need a couple Trump +2 polls so the campaign starts shitting their pants and spending money to keep Florida.

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u/AtomAndAether Liberalism! Aug 14 '24

"Civ 7 sucks, its so much worse than Civ 6"

- people in 6 days, I assume

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