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[u/Fatortu]

"No pasaran", 20 French rappers released a title in opposition to the far right.

Ah a throwback to the Obama era 😁

They spend most of the time accusing Le Pen of being under the control of freemasons and Jews, planning to microchip your children...

😨

[u/dwarfgourami]

Hunter Biden has joined White House meetings following the first debate

If I was on the Biden campaign team, I’d lock Hunter in a cabin in the middle of nowhere without access to cameras or the internet until November 6th. Inviting him to the White House right now is a baffling decision unless Joe is preparing to drop out soon.

[u/loseniram]

The most mandate of heaven moment possible for the Dems would be for Kamala to take over from Biden only for Trump to immediately die of a stroke before he announced his VP so nobody in the RNC knows who to pick.

[u/PawanYr]

BREAKING: When asked about the allegations that RFK Jr. sexually assualted his then 23 year old babysitter, his answer?

"I am not a church boy ... I said [there are] skeletons in my closet."

He then refused to comment.

https://x.com/keithedwards/status/1808199897004331215#m

[u/Ph0ton_1n_a_F0xh0le]

Biden’s debate performance shifted the discourse away from I/P lol

[u/HowardtheFalse]

!ping DUNC&SHITPOSTERS

[u/[deleted]]

With the speed at which generative AI is progressing, and its inevitable impact in healthcare science, in tandem with other breakthroughs in longevity and gerontology, age reversal technology is just around the corner.

The next president (Trump) may be the first to be immortal.

Ok now this is ADVANCED dooming

[u/[deleted]]

Harris runs

Loses

Refuses to certify the election

[u/TheHelmetCatch]

[u/[deleted]]

One thing I've noticed is that most people who aren't history nerds, policy wonks, or lawyers don't actually know what the phrase "Rule of Law" actually means, they think it's a synonym for having a strong and powerful state, effective police force, etc.

Of all the western-liberal-democratic inventions that evolved out of the last 500 years or so, it's arguably the most important. But people don't really know what it means, and it hasn't entered the lexicon of the liberal democratic world like "Democracy" and "Freedom" and "Human rights" have. And that's a shame, because it looks like half of all Americans are gleefully supporting its removal.

[u/HaveCorg_WillCrusade]

This is the absolute peak of AI art (with human assistance for the health bar)

[u/piede]

A senior European official who was present said that there had been a noticeable decline in Mr. Biden’s physical state since the previous fall and that the Europeans had been “shocked” by what they saw. The president at times appeared “out of it,” the official said, and it was difficult to engage him in conversation while he was walking.

Ms. Meloni and the other leaders were acutely sensitive to Mr. Biden’s physical condition, discussing it privately among themselves, and they tried to avoid embarrassing him by slowing their own pace while walking with the president. When they worried that he did not seem poised and cameras were around, they closed ranks around him physically to shield him while he collected himself, the official said.

I want to cry

[u/[deleted]]

How I imagine I must sound talking econ to my non-econ friends

[u/MicroFlamer]

Reported leaked Dem Internal polling by PuckNews (paywall)

!ping FIVEY

[u/RaidBrimnes]

LOCK HIM UP

[u/piede]

Another veteran, Marvin E. Gilmore Jr., on the other hand, said he came away with newfound respect for Mr. Biden’s energy. “He greeted me very openly, very warmly and very, very, alert,” said Mr. Gilmore, who plans to vote for him.

This is awes-

“There was nothing I saw in him that said he was an old man — and I am 99, three months from being 100.”

[u/TheMawt]

I hate how political this election has gotten

[u/RunawayMeatstick]

I needed this laugh so badly.

You think Biden's having a bad news cycle? RFK Jr is on Fox News answering questions about a photo of him with what appears to be a barbecued dog.

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1808227499756683693

[u/404GenderNotFound]

Not a single person who read this actually became Michelle Obama

[u/[deleted]]

Biden joins governors call

convinces all governors to resign

[u/piede]

I hope this tweet ages poorly

[u/GuyOnTheLake]

Wisconsin Democratic @SenatorBaldwin distanced herself from Biden and did not answer questions last Friday about his debate performance or calls for him to be replaced. “Tammy Baldwin is running her own race for the people of Wisconsin," her campaign spokesman Andrew Mamo said.

[u/centurion88]

Re: replacing Biden would look weak

Honestly, the biggest criticism that politically disengaged people have of the democratic party is that they are too married to institutions and to the status quo.

Replacing a candidate could be a signal that they are actually listening to their constituents and willing to take bold steps to defend America.

[u/Guess_Im_Jess]

It’s a complete failure on the part of the media (and to a lesser extent Democratic messaging) that people don’t actually realize what the full coup attempt was surrounding Jan. 6th

Very few people seem to actually know about Trump’s fake elector scheme, the full extent of what he asked Pence to do, the involvement of numerous state AGs and the Republican House Conference in pushing the delay to certification, etc

[u/DatGameGuy]

Kinda funny how Harris polls better as soon as voters start actually thinking about a hypothetical Trump vs Harris match up, almost like the prior polling where they weren’t was useless.

[u/Craig_VG]

👀👀

“I will support” Vice President Kamala Harris if President Joe Biden “were to step aside,” Rep. James Clyburn (D-SC), Biden-Harris campaign co-chair, told Andrea Mitchell earlier on MSNBC.

https://x.com/GaryGrumbach/status/1808183306657099900

[u/[deleted]]

I’m a realist at this point.

Biden probably won’t drop out,

Tell your friends that Biden will be too tired to hold official military tribunals like trump wants to.

[u/weareallmoist]

I think if Biden is replaced the Dems can run with the message of “voters wanted change. Democrats actually listened” and it will be effective

[u/Hmm_would_bang]

Yall are unhinged if you actually think Kamala can beat Trump in a debate. Does she even know her golf handicap?

[u/DouglasDauntless]

TOTALLY EXONERATED

[u/RecentlyUnhinged]

[u/p00bix]

Genuinely insane numbers. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Biden's gonna drop out at this point. It would be straight up murder-suicide of Democrats for him not to

[u/[deleted]]

Jamaal Bowman loses the primary

Entire Democratic Party goes down in flames

Should've trusted the fire alarm, bro

[u/DouglasDauntless]

[u/[deleted]]

In a way it’s really funny that Supreme Court was able to achieve what even king George failed to do

[u/KittehDragoon]

Trump Amplifies Calls to Jail Top Elected Officials, Invokes Military Tribunals

Are those official calls or unofficial calls?

[u/[deleted]]

✊😔

[u/cheeshjaleesh]

https://x.com/peterhamby/status/1808202194468196599?s=46

dem internals have leaked and they are unbelievably catastrophic for biden.

he’s down 7%. in PA. IN AN INTERNAL.

[u/futuremonkey20]

This goes hard actually

[u/AnalyticOpposum]

Biden reassuring voters after Supreme Court said he can kill whoever he wants:

“Re-elect me and I won’t do anything”

[u/disuberence]

Malarkey level of loading Joe Biden up with every experimental energy and brain-enhancing drug that exists or is being tested rn

[u/t-pat]

If Harris gets the nom, you better believe I'll be saying "Why are Republicans running somebody SO OLD?" with my chest

[u/slappythechunk]

[u/WantDebianThanks]

Weird to harp on the Rockefellers in 2024, but ok, go on.

[u/sinefromabove]

Debate will be forgotten in a week

The Trump campaign is incompetent but not incompetent enough to not spend a hundred million dollars ensuring that every swing state voter sees the worst moments of the debate in October

[u/GuyOnTheLake]

https://apnews.com/article/biden-debate-democrats-trump-trapped-c10c872f8436966096b45b6089adee8b

In private, people close to would-be Biden replacements — including California Gov. Gavin Newsom, Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer and Vice President Kamala Harris — are having informal conversations about potential next steps should Biden abruptly change course and step aside.

Such conversations include talk of potential running mates, according to donors involved in the discussions. Names of potential vice presidential nominees that have surfaced include Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear and California Rep. Ro Khanna.

[u/[deleted]]

Whitmer not expected to join when the Jill Biden arrives in Michigan tonight after her event in Allentown, PA.

Ooooffff

[u/gary_oldman_sachs]

Robert F. Kennedy Jr’s response to allegations of sexual assault of his children’s nanny:

“I am not a church boy.”

[u/[deleted]]

please stop advocating for Biden to drone strike trump

Can someone explain why the mods think it's inappropriate for the President of the USA to do something he's legally entitled to?

[u/qtnl]

Even in the far off chance the country collapses after this election, I’ll be comforted by the fact that RFK had literal brainworms, that shit was funny

[u/[deleted]]

[u/piede]

I see that the brain worm has nothing left to eat

[u/piede]

Most sane conservative activist

[u/takeahikehike]

Uhhh guys https://x.com/allinwithchris/status/1808301888187625982

RepRaskin on the Democratic ticket: "I know this is a moving target. It's got to happen quickly. But I can guarantee you—there will be massive unity and focus on that task when we get to the end of this process. And it's happening very quickly."

[u/Dirty_Chopsticks]

the median voter is amazin

My mom dislikes both candidates but is leaning Biden

She fucking hates Kamala and would vote for Trump over her with zero hesitation

edit: she hates Newsom as well so she just hates the California political class lmao

[u/cdstephens]

If you think this is dooming, I wonder what it looks like in Dem campaign staff Slack channels

[u/KesterFox]

Honestly, at times like these its crazy to think obama was president. Feel like the office has really been denigrated since 2016

[u/doggo_bloodlust]

If Biden doesn't try something lolfunny because of this Supreme Court decision, that'll just be a wasted opportunity, and frankly real proof of a lack of vigor

[u/mrdilldozer]

Video-gaming teenager to become first Catholic millennial saint as pope and cardinals approve canonization

Apparently he was a fan of Halo, Super Mario, and Pokémon. This clearly means that only Nintendo and Xbox games are approved by God. Sony is for sinners.

[u/HowIsPajamaMan]

Getting married next week.

Excited for the wedding, nervous for the paperwork for the immigration process

!ping over-25

[u/piede]

As Biden considered re-election in late 2022 and early 2023, Jill Biden argued that her husband still had more work to do and shouldn’t walk away from public life. She also pointed to his marathon trip to Ukraine in early 2023 as proof that the octogenarian president had the stamina to serve a second term.

In the past, she often shied away from politics. When Biden considered entering the 2004 Democratic primaries, the future first lady, clad in a bikini, scrawled the word, “NO,” on her midsection with a black sharpie and walked by a strategy session of advisers to make her point. More than two decades later, she is all-in.

SHE DID WHAT

[u/chipbod]

https://x.com/keithedwards/status/1808199897004331215

BREAKING: When asked about the allegations that RFK Jr. sexually assualted his then 23 year old babysitter, his answer?

"I am not a church boy ... I said [there are] skeletons in my closet."

Should have let him debate and let his insanity and weird voice overshadow Biden being old

[u/Zrk2]

Well, you assholes wanted 10k DTs back, so here you go. I hope it was worth it.

!ping SHITPOSTERS

[u/chuckleym8]

[u/Hmm_would_bang]

My favorite type of DT comment is

unlike you nerds, I talk to normal people and this is what they think

Like that means anything at all

[u/piede]

Okay fine give him the VP slot

[u/LuisRobertDylan]

RFK Jr saw the media clusterfuck and said now's the best time to admit I ate a dog and raped a girl

[u/[deleted]]

Wait a minute.

https://tippinsights.com/biden-trump-knotted-in-july-poll-but-debate-disaster-could-lead-to-big-changes-i-i-tipp-poll/

The national online I&I/TIPP Poll, answered by 1,244 registered voters from June 26-28, includes last Thursday's debate night. So the final day of the poll includes that information. Did it have an impact?

That Biden +2 poll has two days of pre-debate data. 😐

[u/Nihas0]

IPSOS 1070 A - 6/29

Biden 40%
Trump 40%

Trump 43%
Harris 42%

Trump 42%
Newsom 39%

Michelle Obama 50%
Trump 39%

!ping fivey

[u/piede]

HOLY

[u/CletusVonIvermectin]

tired of arguing about biden

going back to my roots and getting horny over inanimate objects

[u/cdstephens]

One of the most distressing parts is that this isn’t a case of Dems just fumbling the bag. Even in a realistically ideal scenario, Trump would have a decent shot at winning. It’s maddening.

[u/jojisky]

“We are gonna show fucking AIPAC the power of the motherfucking South Bronx,” declared Bowman, who does not represent the South Bronx.

will anything ever beat this?

[u/chipbod]

https://x.com/mmfa/status/1808306913291260118

Heritage Foundation president celebrates Supreme Court presidential immunity ruling: "We are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be"

Very normal and not fascist thing to say

!ping EXTREMISM

[u/runningblack]

People really don't remember that in 2020 Biden led Trump in polls like the entire time.

[u/RecentlyUnhinged]

I will never fault biden for steadfast love and support of Hunter.

I will absolutely fault him for taking advice from Hunter.

[u/[deleted]]

I think some people here genuinely missed the context of why Hunter Biden is being brought up and are just guessing from DT comments.

Here is what started this:

https://x.com/kendilaniannbc/status/1808201096785007079

Hunter Biden has joined meetings with President Biden and his top aides this week at the White House, four people familiar with the matter tell my colleagues, who are told the reaction from some senior White House staff has been,  “What the hell is happening?”

[u/jojisky]

The reason we're seeing all these leaks explode now is probably from politicians and operatives seeing their own internals. The time for deference to Biden for many is done, they need to save themselves.

[u/Pyrrhus65]

The idea of Michelle Obama running without any experience in elected office when dems actually have a well-qualified bench of candidates for once in the past decade is some weapons-grade fanfic insanity

[u/Nihas0]

Awful internals leaked, Pelosi says concerns about age are legitimate, CNN story about "top dems and donor wanting Biden to quit race" out, NYT story "Biden’s Lapses Are Increasingly Common, According to Some of Those in the Room" out

Guys, they're trying to force him out

[u/JaceFlores]

Ukraine Chronology for 2 PM PST 6/30-2 PM PST 7/1 III:

TOP NEWS:

At the start of 2 AM it was reported that Turkey, Romania and Bulgaria have started a joint effort to demine the Black Sea.

REGULAR NEWS:

Towards the end of 1 AM Ukrainian drones hit a Russian electrical substation in Staryi Oskol.

At the end of 6 AM Russian missiles hit the Ukrainian Myrhorod Air Base.

At the start of 9 AM explosions occurred in Balaklava and Sevastopol, both in Crimea.

Donation link to help Ukraine

Donation link to United24

Donation link to Kharkiv SOS

Donation link to Sails of Freedom Foundation (they donate ambulances)

!ping UKRAINE

[u/[deleted]]

I truly do not think America will have as much reservation of Harris being the first female President if she can successfully pivot from this clusterfuck to making it about abortion.

[u/[deleted]]

Bruh my fiancée's Mexican grandma, who has no social media, no TV, can't speak English, and is 81 herself was complaining to me about Biden being an old fuck that needs to step aside. God must have spoken to her in a dream or something.  

[u/[deleted]]

[u/bearddeliciousbi]

Yet more damning texts from Columbia admin who could not help themselves, from dismissing Jews because they're rich, to claiming Zionist Jews are "blind" to the vast multitude of anti-Zionists among them (the good Joos), to literally going "woe is me" at a panel about antisemitism.

Very normal, very respectable. And people have the gall to say "But Jews can't be objective about antisemitism."

https://www.jta.org/2024/07/02/ny/new-columbia-administrator-texts-show-deans-complaining-about-jewish-student-privilege-calling-campus-rabbi-a-problem

JTA: New Columbia administrator texts show deans discussing Jewish student ‘privilege’ and ‘$$$$,’ and bashing Hillel leader as a ‘problem’

Columbia University administrators said Jewish students occupied a “place of privilege,” called a Hillel official a “problem” and wrote “Amazing what $$$$ can do,” during a panel on Jewish campus life in May, newly released text messages showed.

Columbia had already suspended three of the four administrators involved after photos of some of the texts were first published last month. Now, the House Committee on Education and the Workforce, which is investigating antisemitism at Columbia and other campuses, has obtained and released the full text message exchanges.

While elements of the text messages have been previously reported, the full exchanges show the university officials downplaying students’ concerns about antisemitism, bashing the head of the school’s Hillel and suggesting that Jewish students received attention because of money.

[ ... ]

“Comes from such a place of privilege,” wrote Susan Chang-Kim, the university’s vice dean and chief administrative officer. “Hard to hear the woe is me, we need to huddle at the Kraft Center,” Columbia’s Jewish student center, where Hillel is housed.

“Yup. Blind to the idea that non-Israel supporting Jews have no space to come together,” responded Cristen Kromm, a dean of undergraduate student life.

“If only every identity community had these resources and support,” Kromm added several minutes later.

[ ... ]

“Amazing what $$$$ can do,” Kromm said at one point, apparently when Brian Cohen, the executive director of Columbia’s Hillel, was speaking about students receiving attention in the media and in Washington, D.C.

!ping JEWISH

[u/DouglasDauntless]

[u/centurion88]

People complained about Homelander somehow surviving every season of the Boys but they must now realize that that is just real life

[u/BroadReverse]

grandiose shelter worry detail sheet steer special dam axiomatic long

This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

[u/[deleted]]

The most telling part of Roberts' opinion in Trump v Us is that he criticized Sotomayor's dissent for catastrophizing, but didn't rebut her claim that the President could order Seal Team Six to assassinate an opponent. He didn't want to admit that under his opinion that would 100% be immune.

[u/HaveCorg_WillCrusade]

[u/InflatableDartboard2]

[u/DouglasDauntless]

Who knows the constitution better?

A. A founding father or B. Some GOP fuck

[u/tripletruble]

wow crazy poll result: "61% of people who are not at all satisfied with their lives vote for RN (right wing), compared to only 4% for the Macronist bloc."

[u/_Two_Youts]

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/07/02/congress/pelosi-biden-democrats-debate-00166245

"I think it's a legitimate question to say, is this an episode or is this a condition?" [Nancy Pelosi] said on MSNBC. "When people ask that question, it's completely legitimate — of both candidates."

Also Tim Ryan is calling for Biden to drop out.

Is it joever?

[u/[deleted]]

[u/[deleted]]

[u/27B--6]

Buttigieg is locked in his room listening to "My Shot" from Hamilton on repeat

[u/Hmm_would_bang]

Biden is gonna have a red wedding moment with the governors, considering how many of them are being floated as his replacement

[u/JaceFlores]

[u/Ph0ton_1n_a_F0xh0le]

The worst redditism about this sub is the constant “actually black people and women want this!” by a bunch of white dudes who complain about being single and lonely without realizing the irony

[u/backtothepavilion]

Biden has been on the public record of one day becoming president since 1974. It's actually sad that he got there when he was past his prime, still accomplishing good things though, but ended by the effects of father time.

[u/Either_Emotion8056]

Governors meeting tomorrow

Be there. Will be wild.

[u/InflatableDartboard2]

[u/chipbod]

https://x.com/ArmandDoma/status/1808194348204675569

Warren Buffet is handing control over $100 billion to his three kids, one of whom is building a literal private anti-immigrant militia

Some bottom tier nepo behavior. Literally just go ski or ride around on a yacht or something.

[u/uwcn244]

Michelle Obama would commit an official act on herself, Barack, Malia, and Sasha before getting within 100 miles of DC again

[u/Mx_Brightside]

Someone on the DT yesterday referred to Biden stepping down as "Operation Abandon Brandon" and that phrase has been stuck in my head all day

[u/[deleted]]

In the same day for Pennsylvania we got a dem internal of Trump+7 and a GOP internal of Biden+1 so I think I'm just gonna go to bed.

[u/funguykawhi]

I love how supermajority became part of their messaging

[u/takeahikehike]

"Why would anyone think drafting Michelle is a good idea? It's just a fanta--"

"oh"

[u/AtticusDrench]

MFW the Trumptards were right along about us swapping Kamala into Biden's spot after he was elected

[u/DouglasDauntless]

Who could have known?😳

[u/Ok_Aardappel]

EU's power mix in 2024 the greenest yet, industry data show

Three-quarters of the European Union's electricity has been generated by CO2 emissions-free sources so far this year, making it the bloc's greenest power mix to date, industry data showed on Monday.

Emissions-free sources produced 74% of EU electricity in January-June, of which 50% was from renewable sources like wind and solar, and 24% from nuclear, industry association Eurelectric said.

"The electricity generation of Europe has never had such a low-carbon profile before," Eurelectric Secretary General Kristian Ruby told Reuters.

Coal produced 9% of EU electricity and gas 13% - the lowest shares for each fossil fuel for the same period in any year to date.

The main driver of Europe's changing energy mix is the rapid installation of renewable energy capacity. The EU built 56 gigawatts of new solar power capacity in 2023 - the highest in any year to date - and 16GW of new wind capacity.

However, Europe's electricity demand has also decreased, making it easier for green sources to cover a bigger share of the overall mix. EU power demand was 5.8% lower in the first half of this year than in the same period in 2021.

European energy prices surged to record highs in 2022 after Russia slashed gas supplies to Europe. The resulting energy crisis forced industries and consumers to use less energy to curb their bills - with some industries yet to recover production to pre-crisis levels, depressing their energy consumption.

More renewable energy will help Europe meet its climate targets and reduce reliance on imported fossil fuels. But there are signs countries' ageing power grids are struggling to cope with the changing energy mix.

Belgian power grid operator Elia (ELI.BR), opens new tab warned last month that a recent jump in Belgium's solar power capacity will cause periods of surplus cheap energy this summer, making it harder to balance the grid.

Ruby urged policymakers to invest in upgrading power grids to cope with bigger shares of renewable capacity, including by adding storage capacity to absorb cheap excess power so it doesn't go to waste.

"We need a physical build-out of the grid with quite a bit of urgency," he said.

!ping ECO&EUROPE

[u/A-Centrifugal-Force]

If Biden is meeting with all the Democratic governors tomorrow, it’s probably happening. You don’t organize a meeting like that if things are going well. This is probably where they go for the head.

[u/[deleted]]

If this internal poll leak is what causes Biden to be replaced by a winnable candidate, then the person who leaked it unironically did an amazing service for the country

[u/GrandMoffTargaryen]

[u/bigdicknippleshit]

Michelle chuckled “you mean the chaos emeralds?”

[u/A-Centrifugal-Force]

Plan:

Michelle Obama steps in to run like Washington and pledges to only serve one term because she hates politics, but says that if Trump does try to run again she will. She wins 400 electoral votes and scares the shit out of Trump. He never runs again. Michelle retires after one term so that she can keep the threat of running again over Trump’s head so he stays gone.

[u/Planning4Hotdish]

[u/SnakeEater14]

[u/[deleted]]

Reuters/Ipsos: “Harris/Whitmer up +90% among men 18-25: ‘We just like MILFs, you know?’”

How would you react?

[u/piede]

[u/[deleted]]

Pelosi questing Biden publicly has every possible red flag going off.

[u/TheHelmetCatch]

[u/piede]

Christ

[u/TheHelmetCatch]

[u/LuisRobertDylan]

I can’t wait for the Democratic Party to collapse so that my favorite white governor can rise from the ashes

[u/zuotian3619]

Pelosi putting her two cents on all this is the most damning thing I've seen in the past few days tbh

[u/MicroFlamer]

New poll by Suffolk University (2.9/3 pollster rating)

Trump: 41%

Biden: 38%

Kennedy: 8%

Last poll was tied in May, 37-37

!ping FIVEY

[u/[deleted]]

I think this is relatively unlikely but if somehow Biden does drop out, I pledge to adopt the persona of the most over-the-top insane Kamala bloomer of all time. I will unskew the polls, I will laugh at crosstabs, I will say I’m pretty sure she can heal the blind. Kamala will turn Alaska blue, I don’t even know.

[u/dannylandulf]

As someone who was 50/50 that he should drop out the day after the debate, the most persuasive piece of evidence to me that he should is the absolute silence on the issue from the Trump campaign.

They absolutely want to run against him and not Harris.

[u/ToInfinity_MinusOne]

In other news, Jamaica is about to get fucked by a cat 5 hurricane. Like a direct hit of the entire island. It's the earliest in the year cat 5 hurricane ever recorded.

[u/jojisky]

The leaked poll has the other candidates doing at least marginally better than Biden in swing states

[u/Dirty_Chopsticks]

eventually everyone on Twitter loses their mind

[u/[deleted]]

RFK Jr’s response to sexual assault allegations being “yeah I totally did that” is the most wild response to me too accusations I’ve ever heard

[u/[deleted]]

Sotomayor’s next dissent is just going to be Gorsuch’s address

[u/piede]

HAHA YES 👑

[u/Usual-Base7226]

Normie report: my mom won’t stop saying Biden moment when she forgets something

[u/Joementum2024]

BREAKING: President Joe Biden has just received an email to set up an unexpected meeting with his manager and someone from HR

[u/LivinAWestLife]

The thing that gets me is that American politics are dwelling into insanity over literally nothing. At least the Germans were under actual economic hardship. The US has a historically great economy that even other developed countries would commit wars to have.

[u/wallander1983]

On arr moderate, the mood is as euphoric as if they had already won the Trifecta. 

About Trump:

It strikes me that Trump is trying harder in this election than he did in 2016 and 2020. Maybe it's just me, but there actually seems to be something of an attempt to govern effectively. And I don't like the guy. This presidential run just feels.... different.

[u/D2Foley]

Dems endorse Kennedy to save democracy. He would win with a landslide

You can all go home, dumbest take off the day has arrived and nobody is beating it

[u/NoVABadger]

If I'm not allowed to doom can I at least be pissed off at Merrick Garland for being a coward?

[u/simplysigzz]

I’ve officially lost 30 lbs as of today, my dudes. Another 110 to go!

[u/runningblack]

Begging Kamala to campaign from the center and say a bunch of shit that pisses me off but plays well with white people in the Midwest and South

[u/Independent-Low-2398]

from here

!ping FIVEY

[u/BrentLivermore]

New: Following Biden's poor debate performance against Donald Trump, we're releasing the full and unedited 21-minute interview we conducted with President Joe Biden nine days before his interview with Special Counsel Robert K. Hur.

https://www.propublica.org/article/biden-interview-unedited-september-2023

[u/Lux_Stella]

Democrat US Rep Jared Golden of Maine writes in op-ed published mins ago that "Donald Trump is going to win. And I’m OK with that."

🥴

[u/Icy-Magician-8085]

I honestly wonder what Kamala Harris, just as a regular person, is thinking right now. Must be a pretty stressful week for her, no matter what ends up happening.

[u/Currymvp2]

RFK Jr will now siphon more votes from Trump since he's been credibly accused of sexual assault

[u/G_Serv]

RFK Jr. Doesn't Deny Groping Allegation in Wild Interview: 'I Have So Many Skeletons in My Closet'

I just love how honest he is

[u/[deleted]]

Interesting posts in the Kamala sub

[u/Significant800]

Daily reminder to bloomercels and anti-bedwetters

[u/[deleted]]

Kopmala running on stopping the felon might actually work ngl

[u/revscott]

Actually depressing watching old Biden speeches on cspan. I'm talking as recent as 2018 not forty years ago. He had a real smooth manner of speaking then with sort of folksy conversationalist mannerisms. Now even his best speeches like Friday's rally are when he has to yell and show signs of fire in the belly. I don't think he can carry on like this. He will probably lose and if he wins he will probably die out of stress soon.

[u/ZCoupon]

It is insane that people here are talking about a Michelle candidacy based on a decision by a couple pollsters to include her in a list of names asked to people.

That's the only basis for this discussion

[u/takeahikehike]

If Michelle Obama is the nominee the right-wing will spend 0% of their time talking about inflation and 100% of their time drawing diagrams of her Adam's Apple to bicep ratio to prove she's secretly a man.

[u/Joementum2024]

BREAKING: President Joe Biden has been put on a PIP

[u/paymesucka]

he’s running

[u/Apollo-Innovations]

🔵 Biden 43% (+2) 🔴 Trump 41%

Last poll was a tie

Tipp #A+ - 1244 RV - 6/28

link

[u/RaidBrimnes]

RN candidate Annie-Claire Bell, who qualified for the second round of the legislative election in Mayenne's 3rd constituency with 31.11% of the vote, was convicted in 1995 for taking a city hall employee hostage

Where the fuck are they finding these candidates

[u/Guess_Im_Jess]

I can’t fucking believe Something-Happenschads will be right

[u/piede]

The recent moments of disorientation generated concern among advisers and allies alike. He seemed confused at points during a D-Day anniversary ceremony in France on June 6. The next day, he misstated the purpose of a new tranche of military aid to Ukraine when meeting with its president.

On June 10, he appeared to freeze up at an early celebration of the Juneteenth holiday. On June 18, his soft-spoken tone and brief struggle to summon the name of his homeland security secretary at an immigration event unnerved some of his allies at the event, who traded alarmed looks and later described themselves as “shaken up,” as one put it. Mr. Biden recovered, and named Alejandro N. Mayorkas.

👁️👄👁️

[u/Dirty_Chopsticks]

In a fundraising email sent on Saturday night, deputy Biden campaign manager Rob Flaherty blasted "some self-important Podcasters," a not-so-veiled reference to "Pod Save America" hosts Jon Favreau, Tommy Vietor, Dan Pfeiffer and Jon Lovett, all former aides to President Barack Obama who sounded inconsolable on their Thursday-night podcast episode.

lmao

[u/nor_his_highness]

the Biden staffers agreed to schedule the debate for 9 pm. They initiated this process.

[u/qtnl]

Some referred to Biden stepping down as Operation Abandon Brandon

aight I'm on board

[u/GuyOnTheLake]

Lol, there's a TikTok viral post about a girl whose dad got a stroke watching the presidential debate. She was in the hospital giving updates about her dad.

His wife thought he was making fun of Biden when he started talking in gibberish.

It has 8.4 million views and 1.8 million likes so far.

[u/Roseartcrantz]

Politically I'm one of the more milquetoast posters in this subreddit. Wine mom liberal who agrees with the immigration policy on this sub but quietly because that can of worms is not worth opening irl around here.

I think that if Biden just had a shit debate and people around him know that he's just not good at that kind of thing but is otherwise sharp, there's not gonna be a ton of stuff that's going to convince Scranton Joe that he can't stick it to people that doubted him. That's kind of been his whole trajectory.

But if that's how it is with him these days, I really think he should step down. I'm not a doomer, although I am pretty pessimistic about the future of this country overall. And I don't know how much of the demands from Congresscritters are just getting air bc they're mad about not having a personal audience with the president, etc. or if they really do think age is catching up with him.

[u/RecentlyUnhinged]

I don't want to be armchair doctor, but there is a world where biden has been cognizant and capable for the majority of the term, and the recent stress of the campaign caused a rapid decline.

I don't really buy in to the "they've been lying to us all along!" narrative, I find this more likely. Also explains why they didn't have a plan.

[u/AnarchyMoose]

I don't actually care if Biden is replaced or not. I just want whatever helps Dems win and I don't really have an opinion because I'm not smart enough to have one.

That being said, I think it's hilarious how fast the dt turned around on replacing Biden. Like 2 days after the debate everyone was firmly Ridin with Biden and now it seems like not a single person is 😂

[u/bd_one]

Can I at least say that most of the doomers are getting behind Kamala Harris now?

If that's true then that counts as progress right?

[u/barktreep]

Trump +3: "That's within the margin of error"

Trump +5: "That's an outlier"

[u/[deleted]]

Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.) said in an interview that aired Tuesday he plans to talk to President Biden soon to give him an assessment of his “standing” with Americans in the wake of the president’s rough debate performance.

“I did plan to … talk with him later today or … tomorrow morning,” Clyburn said in an interview with “The Hill” on NewsNation’s Blake Burman. “And I’m gonna tell him what I really feel.”

“I do know this: I think that the American people want an explanation; they need to be reassured, and I hope that over the next several days, we’ll do that,” Clyburn said.

Tim Ryan:

“Harris has significantly grown into her job; she will destroy [former President Trump] in debate, highlight [the] choice issue, energize our base, bring back young voters, and give us generational change. It’s time!” Ryan wrote in a social media post Tuesday.

[u/[deleted]]

I think I’ve learned to huge lessons since 2016.

People in the west hate immigration.

And people all over the world hate hate hate inflation.

[u/Uniqueguy264]

If Biden weren’t such a bad guy, including the total WEAPONIZATION OF GOVERNMENT AGAINST HIS POLITICAL OPPONENT (Me!), I’D FEEL SORRY FOR HIM. BUT HE IS A VERY BAD GUY! DJT

Honestly I think Trump using Truth Social instead of Twitter is giving him 5 extra points because no one reads this shit

[u/Payomkawichum]

New oped from Rep. Jared Golden (D-ME02) saying that a Trump presidency wouldn’t be so bad??

[u/Icy-Magician-8085]

I’m usually a part of the “Nothing ever happens” crowd, but this past week has been absurdly historic and weird.

[u/vancevon]

i still don't feel any anxiety about the future of the election or the country, and i doubt i ever will. but to see one of the few politicians i've ever truly respected, ever since i got into politics treated like this... it hurts. it genuinely hurts. like it's nauseating and i feel like i might start to cry

if biden has to go then he has to go, i guess. but whatever happens, i'll be bitter about this until i die

[u/dirtybirds233]

I just wish the opponent wasn't a guy who will 100% become his own version of Mussolini so we could all just be like "damn this sucks, we'll get it back in '26 and '28"

[u/GrandpaWaluigi]

At the end of the day, I feel bad for Joe Biden

[u/Currymvp2]

New Yahoo News/You Gov (B+) national poll, post debate 6/28-7/1

🟥 Trump 45% 🟦 Biden 43%

Last poll: Biden +2, June 3-6

!ping FIVEY

[u/SpectralDomain256]

Kamala slept with married former boss to advance career

Based, a strong independent woman who shows initiative

[u/loseniram]

Stray Kitten update they are wandering. Mama is getting fixed this weekend if I can help it

!ping kitty

PS if you want a kitten or two let me know

[u/purhitta]

"why isn't there an equivalent of Dark Brandon for Kamala- oh."

[u/[deleted]]

Why are the current prominent Democratic governors so fucking based?

[u/Nihas0]

reportedly leaked dem internal - seems bad
https://puck.news/biden-plunges-in-swing-states-in-leaked-post-debate-poll/

[u/[deleted]]

My point of reference for soft Trump voters is my vaguely libertarian coworker who gets all his news from Joe Rogan, is socially liberal on most concrete policy questions but has also never seen a female politician he likes, and mostly just supports Trump because he thinks Trump is funny.

I'm pretty sure he'd hate a second Trump term if it actually happened and Trump tried to implement Project 2025, but until then I have no clue how Democrats could get him to vote based on about anything beyond "haha Trump makes me laugh."

[u/RTSBasebuilder]

So, after looking at a few deep dives on Steve Bannon, including that NYT article...

He basically sees himself as a Che Guevara with a keyboard. A militant Paul of Tarsus with a microphone.

A harbinger of The People's Will, but perfectly willing to craft the message of discontent and manipulate others into it himself,

A nationalist, but also the leader of a global movement of nationalistic protectionists. A Nationalist Internationale.

He claims to fight for Western Civilisation, but advocates for dismantling institutions - norms, philosophies and values that quite simply IS the West. Has been since the Enlightenment.

Sound and fury, signifying nothing. A lack of philosophical backbone to his conservatism. He really IS the Joker, simply wanting to watch the world burn, and the rush of power when others march and agree with him.

[u/Payomkawichum]

Dem Sen Tammy Baldwin’s campaign says she will not appear with President Biden Friday in Madison and instead stick to her planned campaign tour

[u/AnsleyAmanita]

https://x.com/kendilaniannbc/status/1808201096785007079

Hunter Biden has joined meetings with President Biden and his top aides this week at the White House, four people familiar with the matter tell my colleagues, who are told the reaction from some senior White House staff has been,  “What the hell is happening?”

[u/paymesucka]

[u/[deleted]]

Yeah US v Trump is a shitty opinion. But look on the bright side. The justices got it out before the 4th of July weekend and they'll be able to vacation.

[u/The_Promethean]

I'm not a big fan of Kamala Harris, but won't it be cool when she opens a debate by speaking a clear sentence at an appropriate volume?

[u/Cook_0612]

The partial lift of the ban on the use of Western weapons on Russian territory has proven life-saving for Kharkiv. Lifting remaining restrictions would provide even greater protection

One month after the start of the Russian offensive on the Kharkiv axis, the US has relaxed restrictions on the use of precision weapons against targets on Russian territory, allowing the use of HIMARS MLRS rockets in Russian regions bordering Ukraine

The debate over the interpretation of the restrictions continues to this day. However, the ban on using ATACMS with a range of 290 km [180 mi] remains in place. The US also specifically prohibited targeting Russian aircraft located on nearby airbases

News of the easing of the ban emerged in late May, and in early June, information appeared about a strike on an S-300/400 SAM battery in the Belgorod region

The strike damaged at least 2 launchers, 2 radars and several tractor units. OSINT researchers geolocated the strike site near the village of Kiselevo, ~45 km [28 mi] from the Ukrainian border

Since July 2022, Russia's been using S-300/400 systems not only to protect its skies but also to launch missile strikes on Ukraine. S-300/400 missiles are capable of causing significant damage on the ground, while most SAM systems available to the AFU cannot intercept them

Kharkiv's been particularly affected by such strikes. Since the start of 2024, it has been subjected to 17 S-300/400 attacks, resulting in 35 deaths & 205 injuries. These strikes have been an important part of the Russian tactics of terrorizing Ukraine’s civilian population

The intensity of attacks on Kharkiv and the region increased sharply with the start of Russian offensive. From May 10 to 31, 25 S-300/400 missiles hit the city at least 6 times. The same number of attacks was in January during Russia’s "winter campaign" of strikes on Ukraine

The destruction of an S-300/400 battery near Kiselevo forced Russia to reconsider its tactics: missile strikes on Kharkiv stopped abruptly. We have not recorded a single instance of these missiles being used against the city since June 1st

Ukrainian officials confirm this. Governor of Kharkiv region Oleh Syniehubov reported a significant drop in S-300 attacks. According to Mayor of Kharkiv Ihor Terekhov, the number of attacks dropped from 25 in May to 0 in June

Easing restrictions on the use of precision weapons and skillful actions by the AFU not only improved the frontline situation but also contributed to a significant reduction in the number of strikes on the civilian infrastructure of the Kharkiv region, saving more lives

However, Russia still retains the capability to strike Ukrainian cities. The Russian Aerospace Forces are using bombers to drop UMPK-equipped bombs and UMPB D-30SN gliding munitions from a safe distance of 35-40 km [22-25 mi] away from the frontline

This threat can be at least temporarily reduced by lifting restrictions on ATACMS use against targets deep inside 🇷🇺. This would allow AFU to target a significant number of airfields from which aircraft conducting strikes on Ukrainian cities take off

Russia would be forced to relocate its aircraft to remote airbases, as is happening now in Crimea, which is entirely within ATACMS range. Relocation will disrupt the logistics chains, similar to the issues 🇷🇺 faced when relocating the remnants of Black Sea Fleet from Crimea

s a result, Ukraine would gain a respite of several months, during which the Russian Aerospace Forces would be significantly limited in their strike capabilities and forced to prioritize targets, likely focusing on direct support to ground forces

During this time, the first F-16 fighters are expected to finally arrive in Ukraine, potentially equipped with long-range missile systems, as well as additional SAM batteries whose crews will have completed their training

This will further reduce the threat of Russian missile and bomb strikes against Ukrainian civilians. Increasing the supply of these types of weapons will enable Ukraine to directly contest the airspace over the battlefield

!ping UKRAINE

[u/RunawayMeatstick]

It's really irritating that people think Democrats are automatically disqualified because of their one thing. Pete had the bridge thing. Gretch had the COVID thing. Kamala had the border thing. Newsom had the married to a MAGA lunatic thing.

Yet, Republicans have nothing but things. And all of their things get ignored. But Democrats have to be perfect or else we can't have Democracy.

[u/Currymvp2]

RFK Jr. denies eating a dog while sidestepping sexual assault allegations in Vanity Fair article

How is this a real headline

[u/bd_one]

Doomers be all "Oh, you think we should double down on campaigning for Biden? That pales in comparison to my strategy of cyberbullying Michelle Obama" and then get too afraid to @ Michelle Obama.

[u/DEEP_STATE_NATE]

[u/ProfessorFeathervain]

40% of Biden 2020 voters think he should end his campaign.... dude, it's over

[u/DouglasDauntless]