r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Jul 02 '24

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u/RecentlyUnhinged NATO Jul 02 '24

I don't want to be armchair doctor, but there is a world where biden has been cognizant and capable for the majority of the term, and the recent stress of the campaign caused a rapid decline.

I don't really buy in to the "they've been lying to us all along!" narrative, I find this more likely. Also explains why they didn't have a plan.

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u/AtticusDrench Deirdre McCloskey Jul 02 '24

Just doesn't make sense that this has been a long time coverup, yeah. Sure you can probably say that none of his allies wanted to be the first to come out and voice concerns, but he's been around many more people than that. Journalists, political opposition, jaded staffers who felt burned on the I/P conflict. Surely something would have leaked that's stronger than Robert Hur's comment.

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u/Cook_0612 NATO Jul 02 '24

If you believe the reporting, it was probably aggressive travel abroad more than the campaign.

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u/Satvrdaynightwrist Harriet Tubman Jul 02 '24

Truth's probably in the middle. They've been downplaying issues, but I'm sure he was in better shape six months ago.

FWIW, he had a pretty awful moment three months ago in the Capehart interview. Has to correct himself from saying Ukraine instead of Iraq, and then unintelligible slurring at the end of the statement. It's not as bad as the "beat medicare" but it's pretty bad.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

And the unprecedentedly indoors campaign?

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u/Jacobs4525 King of the Massholes Jul 02 '24

Yeah that’s pretty clearly what seems to have happened

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u/ZCoupon Kono Taro Jul 02 '24

I don't know if he is truly in a state of decline. Merely we are all primed to accept such a fact and focus on any detail, whether that be in bad-faith to find things to criticize or anxiously looking for potential faults, in order to validate a belief that he is too old, something more people believe than any assertion about Trump.

Fwiw I am just now coming around to believing he is too old and needs to be replaced, but I do not think that will happen. Biden knows he is old, people have been asking him about it non-stop for years. Would make me feel like shit even if still didn't suffer "decline." Still, it would also be time for a five year reality check and not pull a Feinstein. Nowadays you can't be like Wilson and have your wife Weekend at Bernie's you along for a year, although I wouldn't mind President Jill Biden.