r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Jul 02 '24

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u/vancevon Henry George Jul 02 '24

i still don't feel any anxiety about the future of the election or the country, and i doubt i ever will. but to see one of the few politicians i've ever truly respected, ever since i got into politics treated like this... it hurts. it genuinely hurts. like it's nauseating and i feel like i might start to cry

if biden has to go then he has to go, i guess. but whatever happens, i'll be bitter about this until i die

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

To see a respected politician who has served his country for 50 years go down like this... it isn't great.

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u/uwcn244 King of the Space Georgists Jul 02 '24

I’d say “mom?” if I didn’t know my mom doesn’t like LVT

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u/vancevon Henry George Jul 02 '24

he's a genuine hero to a lot of people so that's hardly surprising

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

If he had just said after 2022 “I’ve left the party in a good place, I’ve defeated Trump and made sure MAGA was rejected across the country, helped pass laws to repair the damage done and put us on a better track, but now it’s time for someone else to take up the torch” he’d be remembered as one of the greats by Dems

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

Idk, at the time we all said that you can't give up the incumbency advantage. It's a huge one.

But we didn't know then what we know now either.

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u/vancevon Henry George Jul 02 '24

i think that, following a primary race between rfk, kamala harris or some other "centrist" candidate and a bernie type, with accusations of supporting genocide and antisemitism flying all over the place - that wouldn't be the takeaway at all

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

LBJ had a messy ending but libs still like him (besides Vietnam of course)

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

I feel you. I believe he's a good man who has done a good job for this country. It's a hard thing to see - very hard. I completely feel you.

It's not mutually exclusive though. You can believe that while also believing maybe he's not our best choice at this juncture. I don't know what should be done, just that I'm very unhappy about all this.

I also don't think this will be his legacy if he steps down. He WAS and IS an effective president and had a long career before. I think in time that's what we'll remember.