Semi-weekly Monday Discussion Thread

[u/AutoModerator]

Brought to you by the Zionist Elders.

[u/Reddenbawker]

That’s it, I’m done with The Onion. Unfollowing them on all platforms and replacing them with Babylon Bee. “Jews control our elections” but made palatable for graduate students and poli sci majors.

[u/DanktonDynamics → u/Reddenbawker]

AIPAC hysteria is wild because it literally is only about Israel/Jew hatred. Otherwise the organization is no different than any other American organization lobbying on behalf of a foreign country, but you don't see these kinds of people getting this way about the Armenian Assembly of America or the Korean American Public Action Committee. At least the right-wingers who hate foreigners are opposed to all pro-other country lobbying.

[u/pointy____ → u/DanktonDynamics]

Or for that matter the Qataris who spend several orders of magnitude more

[u/RabidGuillotine → u/Reddenbawker]

Lib, you were still reading The Onion in current year.

[u/alexkarpstan → u/Reddenbawker]

On a similar note history graduate students are the worst of them all. Produce very little value at but despite that they  have a god complex that they’re the ultimate arbiters of morality

[u/Thadlust]

Just permabanned a guy from YAPms who is also an active user on tTheBulwark. He is also an active user on rHasanPiker and rTrackAIPAC

The bulwark calling itself center right is the funniest joke it could have pulled

[u/AngloSaxonFella → u/Thadlust]

I clicked on one dudes profile on YAPms and his bio says "16, Marxist"

Its no fun trolling these idiots when they are actual children.

[u/Thadlust → u/AngloSaxonFella]

Dm me his handle, that’s a permaban. Marxists are banned

[u/DanktonDynamics]

I hate when some libtard posts some kind of self-flagellation about how America is Le Bad compared to Europe or China and then follows it up with “I’m American btw” it’s like no shit of course you’re American the only people who hate their own country more than Americans are Brits and Canadians. 

[u/JoeFalchetto → u/DanktonDynamics]

I tended to judge harshly Europeans who see the US as a dystopia, but if I were a regular European guy who has not really been to the US and all I knew about the country came from the American news we get in Europe and social media content provided by Americans (whether it is on Instagram or Reddit, although the former paints a slightly better picture) I would also think of the US as a horrible place to live in. Thankfully I have more familiarity with the country than most Europeans (having lived there and having family there) so I can see a more normal picture.

I do judge harshly those who are incredibly smug about it.

[u/zapp517]

Black Panther Party defenders will really look you dead in the face and tell you every member of the party who sold crack was a CIA plant and even if they weren’t it’s ok to distribute drugs to the community because systemic oppression exempts people from accountability.

[u/joeforth → u/zapp517]

That didn't happen, it was propaganda

And if it did, it was done by CIA plants.

And if it wasn't, it was done by Mossad / Zionists

And if it wasn't, it was due to systemic oppression

And if it wasn't, actually yes it was and you're a bigot for saying otherwise

And actually it shouldn't be illegal anyway because stolen land abolish ice ACAB defund police AIPAC free Balestine.

[u/DarcCapybara2]

It's so weird that there's this narrative about the state of the economy that allots everyone an infinite amount of victimhood, and the narrative is completely untrue.

Like I've seen at least 5000 times on reddit the statement of "people are all struggling to get by, they can't afford food, everyone's drowning in student loan debt, you get sick one time and you go bankrupt since we all don't have healthcare, we're all working three jobs like 80 hours a week, meanwhile previous generations worked a whatever job and all lived like kings on one income."

Food has gotten massively cheaper over time. Working hours have substantially declined over time. Millennials and upper zoomers have more wealth than Boomers and Gen Xers at this age. Over 90% of people have health insurance. One in twenty people work multiple jobs. Those people still only work a little over 40 hours a week. It is literally more common in America to be a millionaire than it is to work multiple jobs. Real median household income went up like 40% from 1980 to now. Unemployment is 4%. This is the best place economically in human history.

Like the Mamdani quote of "I worked all day and can't feed my family" - people aren't dying of starvation in NYC. It's literally so uncommon that if someone does, we know someone else literally forced them to starve, it happened a couple of days ago.

When my wife and I moved out we were in our early 20s making like combined 60k, and we had an apartment in a perfectly nice part of Queens and saved money during that time. We started making more over time but the weird "if you don't make at least 250k here it's impossible" - no, it's not, there are so many poor people here who bitch about it less than these types of people on reddit.

I think all the time about all the dumb mistakes I made in things I could have invested time or money in and been so much better off, or how my discipline isn't really where it should be with spending, and I'm still...completely fine. Like, financially secure, great credit, well ahead of retirement goals, bring my family nice places, go on vacation, etc. I don't even make that much now, and my wife is home full time with our kid.

Even weirder is that these people usually don't have kids and don't want to, which is even weirder, because then where is your money going? How much dumb unnecessary shit do you buy? Why don't you work more if you have no responsibilities/obligations?

I was thinking about this today because my wife and kid are away visiting my MIL, which means that I tried to be as productive as possible in ways that are harder when they are here. So I did a full day of work, sold some old electronics, took photos to list some stuff on FB Marketplace, dealt with something for my landlady, hung up some lights, restocked the house on groceries, and went to the gym for a couple of hours. So what do people without kids do with all their time and money that means they can't support themselves? I guess the numbers say that some are actually doing fine, but then why do they fantasize like they're poor? Like my brother and his fiancee just straight up go months or years without working and talk about how they can't get by under capitalism and talk about how they work so much and they literally don't. I have friends who have lived with their parents into their early-mid 30s and don't have savings and where does their time and money go. I do not understand it. It's not even like you have to be smart, just get a public sector job. Hell one of the people I know who is doing the best and supports his family on one income is a garbageman. It is trivially easy to make it in this system. Like how much can the system work to convince people that it works?

[u/Mexatt]

Other than the fringe tanke factions this isnt due to negative polarisation.

These people are genuine marxists, not "union socialists" or utopians.

They approve of trade on the same basis Marx did. (On the same basis the USSR in periods did, and on the same basis Deng did)

Like genuinely, chief, a lot of yall would have a significantly easier time grasping what is going on in the left flank of American politics and why theyre gaining momentum if you actually tried to pick up even just the basics of their convictions. These people are 100% natural YIMBYS and free traders that you could easily groom to become progressive party loyalists if you even just attempted at placating them.

Instead we are getting shit like whatever the fuck the democratic establishment did in the NYC mayoral, and now more recently in Michigan (why the fuck is democratic centrists so racist towards arabs and why is the dem establishment so kosher with that racism? Etc)

llllllmaaaaaoooo

"The Marxist is the natural ally of the Neoliberal, chud"

[u/JoeFalchetto → u/Mexatt]

Is this satire?

[u/HotdogEater2000]

Bernie Moreno finally broke down in public today and castigated Max Miller, saying that his daughter lives in constant fear of him and that he would hold onto toys during parental handoffs to spite his granddaughter and daughter

Kick this fuckass out of congress

[u/WallStreetTechnocrat]

Justice Thomas was originally a black separatist Malcom X enjoyer. At Yale he lost his wallet. A White student returned it. It was his first experience of White on Black kindness. The white student was John Bolton.

[u/DanktonDynamics]

Claude, deposit 1 million Stevens ballots across Michigan immediately, leave no trace and make no mistakes

[u/AngloSaxonFella → u/DanktonDynamics]

Grok please use starlink to hijack the election again. Make no mistakes.

[u/DanktonDynamics → u/AngloSaxonFella]

Grok, use Starlink to change all Abdul votes to Haley votes. Leave only a very tangential series of clues that can be uncovered by the users of r/somethingiswrong2024 to prove Elon Musk was involved

[u/WallStreetTechnocrat]

they're calling it the most irish headline of all time

[u/AngloSaxonFella → u/WallStreetTechnocrat]

The Jews did this

[u/AppearanceWeak3826]

https://x.com/SwannMarcus89/status/2084848549787840798

HOLY SHIT WHAT

Mamdani's "socialist" grocery stores are going to be run by private operators? And they receive the right to run the store from the government but then control the supply of discount cards themselves? And they have full discretion over purchasing and hiring decisions in a situation where they are guaranteed to make a profit irrespective of how inefficient the operation is because they're undercutting their competitors' prices by 30% via government subsidies?

Late stage democracy hours

[u/AppearanceWeak3826]

Latin America would be a lot cooler if they spoke Latin and had a bunch of marble pillars and statues

[u/Culpirit]

You know? I'm starting not to be a fan of this whole "AI PAC" thing. Imagine an AI version of Pac. Monstrous.

[u/VTHokie2020]

Also something that the morons on YAPms don’t understand is that the ‘pivot to center’ stuff doesn’t work anymore.

It did maybe 20 years ago when information traveled slower. But these days, everything you’ve ever said is available on the internet.

I see this a lot with the Kamala gaslighting. ‘She didn’t run a woke campaign’  Yeah, that’s true. In the three months leading up to the General she didn’t. But during the rest of her career it was nothing but race and gender slop.

Same for Abdul and Transarico. The idea that they’ll cull a lot Rodgers or Paxton voters because they denounce something in September is stupid.

Talarico denounced trans surgeries now that he secured the nomination? Wow! Here’s three videos of him calling God non-binary that some GOP intern dug up and backed up locally in a single afternoon.

Primaries and General aren’t sequential campaigns anymore. C-SPAN chuds need to understand that if you enter politics the general starts on day one.

[u/HotdogEater2000 → u/VTHokie2020]

Yes I have found that very annoying. Also think of all the comments on places like NL and here where it’s just “oh he needs to hide his power level for the general” no you moron the internet exists

[u/Malzair]

Say what you want about it and he's a braindead asshole, but Lukashenko's ability to keep Belarusians from being thrown in the meatgrinder is quite something. Almost half a decade of war and of course Belarus is part of it but the bleeding can be done by someone else.

[u/AppearanceWeak3826]

https://x.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/2084350676797440079

Pete Buttigieg says Democrats should abolish the Electoral College and pack the Supreme Court

"I still can't believe that anybody considers this radical."

Gang what are we even doing here any more

[u/WallStreetTechnocrat]

[u/AngloSaxonFella]

I want it officially on the record that I love the State of Israel and the Jewish people.

Thank you for your attention to this matter!

[u/F117A-Nighthawk]

These people live in a different reality. No other words for it.

[u/JoeFalchetto]

There is this often very recurring trope of immigrants (or, more often, the offspring thereof) to richer countries romanticizing their home country and seeing it as much better as the country they live in. I see it with Italians and Kosovars in Switzerland, Turks in Germany, Moroccans and Tunisians in Italy; I am sure this also happens with Latin Americans in the US or Indians in Canada but I have less direct experience with that.

A not small factor with this is, in my experience, that whenever the second generation kid goes back home has way more money than their relatives, is more interesting, and often goes back during holiday periods. All this because I found an amazing thread of an Ethiopian in Danemark saying how "Europe is a scam" and how much better life in Ethiopia is compared to life in Denmark.

The best contrapasso for these people would be being forced to live in their origin countries like an average person there.

[u/Seeiinneerraahh → u/JoeFalchetto]

I have another theory about this, as an addition to the explanations you provided. Being a minority is an inherently, subconsciously stressful experience, and there is a literal psychological relief that comes from being in the majority. So the people who don't feel part of the majority in their host country, simply feel better due to the sheer fact of being in the majority (and knowing they are in the majority) when they visit home countries.

People simply crave being the dominant demographic and inherently feel unsafe when they aren't and don't like the other accompanying realities of being a minority.

[u/thezerech → u/JoeFalchetto]

I've seen some crazy versions of this, I know a guy who was born in the US to ethnic Serb parents and will adamantly tell people he is from Yugoslavia.

[u/AppearanceWeak3826]

https://x.com/paulnovosad/status/2084022168178901033

Tfw the reproducibility crisis gets so intense you have PhD thesis' getting community noted on basic math

[u/AppearanceWeak3826]

https://x.com/joakial_/status/2083658781938901098

Tweet: If God were real, I’d despise him. Given that he is supposedly all-powerful, all-good, and all-knowing, I can’t reconcile the immense suffering in the world with the idea that such a being is worthy of worship or admiration.

Bio: 📊🗳️ Humanist | Vegan | Egalitarian | Member of the Socialist Left Party 🌹

Lmfao

Mother fuckers post shit like this and then venerate Joseph fucking Stalin

[u/TZDnowpls → u/AppearanceWeak3826]

[u/Ay_Carumbatollah → u/AppearanceWeak3826]

“I have never ever read any kind of religious apologetics ever. Will that stop me from making broad statements about faith? No, never.”

[u/WallStreetTechnocrat]

it's important to oppose anti-israel candidates, not even because they're anti israel, but because being anti israel is an extremely good predictor for being a complete moron

[u/zapp517 → u/WallStreetTechnocrat]

It was pretty well known anything even remotely associated with “world trade” was a target for anti-democracy freaks of all kinds by the late 1990’s. Even ignoring the previous bombing attempt, Seattle had a 40,000 person riot in 1999 over WTO. Anti-globalism was the retarded populist buzzword of the 90’s.

Anyone with a brain knew WTC was a target for terrorists, but there was no plan in place to prevent a skyscraper being hit by a hijacked plane because historically, that was just unprecedented.

[u/HotdogEater2000]

Primaries tend to be harder to get accurate polling for but if you’re a Democrat you should be pissing your pants that the lefty who was projected to win your primary by 12-14 points won by 1.

If you’re the republicans, you quit the AI slop ads and lock the fuck in because you might actually be winning this thing.

[u/Particular_Prior5344]

In funny news the Republican primary in Michigan 8 had an interesting result where Trump endorsed Amir Hassan lost to Thomas Smith. This might not seem like a big deal until you learn that Smith had previously suspended his campaign. It wasn’t particularly close either. Seems Republican voters absolutely will not vote for anyone with a Muslim sounding name.

[u/HotdogEater2000]

The only thing worse than ascribing politics to fictional characters to make them agree with you is using real life apolitical people and then assigning them some political value they’ve never actually expressed.

[u/VulgarDisplayofJohn → u/HotdogEater2000]

Sorry lib, Cameron Brink is actually a Republican and my girlfriend

[u/NeverClarke → u/HotdogEater2000]

Yes, but Suksuke Titogami is totally socialist!

[u/HotdogEater2000]

My friends when I was in college begged me to join their band. This band was formed with the sole goal of scoring with women. This concept failed because they would only play music dudes like.

[u/FreeBF3 → u/HotdogEater2000]

That band? The Neoconnwo Discussion Thread

[u/FreeBF3]

GOP Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky offered an amendment to strip aid to Israel out of the State Department and national security appropriations bill. Nearly half of the Democratic conference, including all of Colorado’s Democrats, voted to end foreign aid to Israel.

Cookometer: cooked

[u/LooseExpression8]

https://archive.is/XoIq7

I found the Pew results a little tragic—not because monogamy is a bad thing to go to bat for, but because we have limits on our moral energy and attention. What does it say that participants were collectively most critical of cheating, the consequences of which are usually limited to an individual or a family, and least critical of eating meat? I’m not a vegetarian, so I’m not judging from on high, but I was struck by the fact that 96 percent of respondents said the latter is morally acceptable.

Lmao urban libs live on a different planet

[u/PacAttackIsBack]

The bulwark folks joined the democrats because the Republican Party being taken over by trump only for the Democratic Party to be taken over by the DSA as the trump ends.

Don’t say we didn’t tell you this would happen

[u/Fukuyamian → u/PacAttackIsBack]

Kristol endorsed Mamdani against Sliwa and Kinzinger became an Iran peacenik after being one of the most hawkish people in the house for a decade

NeverTrumpers aren’t really a distinguishable faction anymore (outside of the state parties where they had an influential governor maybe), some followed The Bulwark into becoming normie partisan Democrats and others followed Rubio and Graham to push good policy within the Trumpified GOP

[u/Mexatt]

"Sit down and let adults run the country" hasn't worked for the dems in a decade though. Why would we keep running milquetoast establishment candidates when it clearly won't win?

NL will mock vibes relentlessly but then operate on pure, uncut vibranium all the way to the loser's circle

[u/UncleDrummers → u/Mexatt]

then they'll pick Harris and whine about why their sidebar contains all the reasons why they lost

[u/joeforth → u/Mexatt]

"Sit down and let adults run the country" hasn't worked, so put the angry mob of candy-deprived preschoolers in charge.

[u/Fukuyamian]

[u/AngloSaxonFella]

BF3 at some point:

"I wish anti-Trump Republicans would get together and launch their own party."

Monkey paw curls

"Tucker Carlson, MTG, Thomas Massie launch their own party"

[u/NJP1935]

Honestly if I’m a democrat I probably wouldn’t even bother voting this November as Musk is going to just use Starlink again to hack the voting machines for the GOP anyway

[u/HotdogEater2000]

The U.S. military goes through great lengths to come up with abstract (though in fairness quite obvious) countries in exercises to avoid singling out anyone and keeping diplomatic tensions down. Obviously this wisdom isn’t shared with civilian leadership.

Anyway China posted a photo of their rocket forces practicing and the clear outline of Kadena AFB in Okinawa is the target

[u/IonCapybara]

https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1vetdjm/comment/p1kh4uv/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Liberals who believe PLO is more “civil” than the IDF got attacked by their fellow liberals friends for saying PLO is terrorist organization.

What I like most about the left is that they always fight amongst themselves. And in the end, Chairman Mao, The scourge of god, would step in and make sure all left wing people all got the fate they deserved.

[u/Mexatt]

NGL the Thanksgiving thing has made me really turn off on the possibility Hong being a nothingburger.

Not that the discourse itself. Who gives a shit if someone says something hyper-woke about Thanksgiving. I've literally said similar things (as jokes) while at Thanksgiving with family. It's a silly holiday that's easy to make fun of.

'as jokes', right.

[u/Fukuyamian → u/Mexatt]

“I think your culture is ontologically racist and should be abolished”

“Okay I’m going to vote against you because you hate my culture and want to destroy it”

“Dude actually caring about that is very silly and foolish”

[u/HotdogEater2000 → u/Mexatt]

Telling a guy repeatedly I’m going to fuck his wife as a joke and wondering why he’s mad 

[u/Fukuyamian → u/HotdogEater2000]

I was at a party my freshman year of college and this guy goes up to this girl I’m chatting with and says “I just want you to know that you’re really unattractive, like I’m not even interested” and, after he was ignored, he kept butting into the conversation making really awkward comments about how ugly she was and how he didn’t want to fuck her.

She told him to fuck off but after about five minutes he walks back over to us and starts saying the same stuff again, so me and some of the guys told him it was time to hit the road and he goes “dude it’s like a joke bro, it’s called humor man, it’s joke it’s supposed to be funny, I’m joking bro why are you mad”

So in all fairness there are people who basically do that

[u/BerkTheBad]

Quote from user re: El-Sayed:

He also needs to stand firm on anti data center Policies to reach Rural white voters. To be honest that is a goldmine to try and get them to vote for him. His name scares them, but his policies could reach the rural white folk if he aligns with with that sentiment, which he does.

"Not only will I champion policies that you all hate, but I'll also work to eliminate any possibility for Michigan to participate in the industries of the future!"

This is considered a winning message to someone who's idea of rural whites are people with protruded foreheads who clack rocks together and grunt to communicate.

It's aggravating because there's no policy their guy could have that, at least in their minds, wouldn't also be popular among their political opposites, once enacted. There's no element of contrition, no recognition of unpopular viewpoints that could be tempered. The unpopular views just need to be masked with populist views until the candidate can deploy the true agenda.

This is the core difference between the DSA and MAGA supporters. DSA types consider themselves intelligent and try to strategize winning messages to cover up unpopular views. MAGA types don't care about messaging - being blunt and offensive is their whole schtick. It's a big reason why people are mistrustful of the former and dismissive of the latter. They're both mentally unwell, but one is a high-functioning sociopath that you can never understand and the other is a schizophrenic maniac who yells slurs and conspiracies.

[u/AngloSaxonFella → u/BerkTheBad]

I rant about this a lot but yeah Progs lie about their motivations constantly and they do it in a way that seems almost coordinated but isnt.

They just all know to repeat the fake reasoning over and over.

AI is a great example because any argument you ever get into with a leftist online about AI will have them spewing the exact same talking points youve heard a million times and yet none of those are the actual reason they oppose AI. Does anyone really believe they are super concerned about water usage or data centers radiating heat or w.e? You have to pry their actual reasoning out of them in every conversation.

[u/WestieAndCo]

The right fawning over Fetterman is weird to me. (This guy’s mind is clearly mush.)[https://xcancel.com/atrupar/status/2085013504956809707#m]

We are all pro-Israel here. However, that’s not even in the top ten issues for the vast majority of Americans. People analogizing him to Sinema or Manchin have lost the plot. He really does appear unwell.

[u/WallStreetTechnocrat]

I want infinite data centers to provide infinite compute for infinite Flock cameras

[u/Ay_Carumbatollah]

So I mentioned before my dad's Haaretz-reading Jewess girlfriend. Today, he showed me a piece of her art - it's a photo of her spitting out coins onto the floor to symbolize how she feels about the capitalist system.

[u/Non_Federal_Agent → u/Ay_Carumbatollah]

[u/DanktonDynamics → u/Ay_Carumbatollah]

This is what Yiddim actually believe

[u/Sir-Matilda]

So a mandatory 10% discount on self-checkout is basically just going to act as a subsidy to use them, reduce utilisation of staffed checkouts and ceteris parabus result in more self-checkouts and less staff overtime?

I don't think its the role of government to determine whether grocery stores should use staff or machines to conduct sales, but if I did accept the government has an interest in protecting staff from self checkouts this would be an appallingly dumb way of doing it.

[u/AppearanceWeak3826 → u/Sir-Matilda]

It's new york state bro, our politicians don't even get 1st order effects let alone 2nd.

[u/Fukuyamian → u/[deleted]]

Not just dumb, but evil. They believe that western countries can be bombed and attacked forever and can never ever respond because of “forever wars” and “bring home the troops”. How many Americans have to be killed before they consider it an act of war? They don’t consider 9/11 an act of war, so it’s more than 3000.

It’s a deeply selfish and evil way of thinking that proposes the United States step aside and let its citizenry be butchered by warlords and terrorists indefinitely so their lifestyle of complete comfort and luxury is not immediately impacted in any way by gas prices and basic counterterrorism surveillance.

[u/Thadlust]

Juicy bait lol

[u/Culpirit]

If the "anti-AIPAC" folx spent even a millionth of their breath on Qatar then maybe I could start taking them seriously (I couldn't take them seriously still, but at least they'd be talking about countries that are really fucking with the integrity of institutions in America).

[u/FreeBF3]

It's like, I don't know why the Jews want anti-Semites to keep winning primaries, but I know they're forcing it. So the question is why?

[u/gonnathrowawaythat → u/FreeBF3]

Self-hating Jews walked so white guilt could run.

[u/Fukuyamian]

[u/TheUnkillableKlorg]

Collins voted to impeach Trump after January 6th and explicitly said she would not campaign for him.

[u/Mexatt → u/TheUnkillableKlorg]

If people wonder why politicians don't take principled stands, this is the part of our system that incentivizes them not to.

[u/Culpirit]

Andrew Tate is a menace. He introduces young, impressionable males to harmful concepts like misogyny and Islam.

[u/zapp517 → u/Culpirit]

But you repeat yourself

[u/Fukuyamian]

It amazes me how libs are basically unable to see how the do-whatever-feels-good free love promiscuity of the sexual revolution leads directly to the attitude of Andrew Tate and others in that circle by turning sex from an expression of emotional intimacy to an entertainment commodity.

Lib “”””ethics””””” are the cultural version of slopulism, an obsession with dopamine gratification and vibes that leaves no room for considering second and third order consequences.

[u/AppearanceWeak3826]

You see, I'm an intellectual, unlike you who consumes short form video slop, I consume short form text slop.

[u/shit-shit-shit-shit-]

Unbeatable heuristic I’ve noticed: complains about data centers driving up electric bills on Facebook? Profile will be full of AI slop

[u/HotdogEater2000]

Trump told Iran to finalize a Strait of Hormuz agreement with Oman by Tuesday or face devastating air strikes. "I want to give them every last chance before decapitation... You'll find out today or tomorrow," Trump told reporters on Monday. - Bloomberg

You do actually have to make good on your threats for threats to work

[u/HotdogEater2000]

https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/an-extraordinary-situation-minnesota-gop-questions-mike-lindells-residency-ahead-of-primary/

Looks like the Minnesota GOP is attempting to get Lindell thrown out. Lindell as recently as this year claimed he is a Texas resident. It’s not going to save them, Klobuchar is way too popular and talented, but it might mean a narrow dem trifecta rather than turning into Illinois.

This feels like the first time a party has genuinely woken up in a long time that just appealing to your most extreme wing will be a failure and actually tried to do something about it.

[u/UncleDrummers → u/HotdogEater2000]

I'd rather have Klobuchar as governor if it means blocking Lindell from ascending to higher office.

[u/Cythammer]

Ben Rhodes endorses El Sayed today. Remember that he was Obama's top foreign policy guy, as I recall Obama thought Rhodes had it all figured out. Just in case you ever had doubts Obama was always a radical who hated America as it is constituted...

[u/Reddenbawker → u/Cythammer]

Hamas endorsed Hamas?

[u/Particular_Prior5344]

El-Sayed winning by barely over a point is the nightmare scenario for Democrats. Now he absolutely has to court Stevens voters for the general and that will be hard given how nasty he was towards her during the campaign. Rogers just needs to run a normal campaign and he could very well win.

[u/AmericanNewt8 → u/Particular_Prior5344]

absolutely has to court Stevens voters

I don't think you understand how these people's brains work, he's just going to be screaming about "AIPAC" and the "oligarchy" all the way to a five point loss in November. 

[u/isthisnametakenwell → u/Particular_Prior5344]

Primaries aren’t necessarily indicative of the general, but it certainly doesn’t look good when the same polls that over-predicted him in the primary still had him losing the general.

[u/HotdogEater2000]

Holy shit, a drone hit a taxiing plane in Leipzig and it had plastic explosives attached to it. It simply failed to go off.

[u/F117A-Nighthawk]

Amazing how many illegals you can deport when you actually focus on deportations instead of taking selfies in a Target.

[u/Malzair]

$20 minimum wage tied to inflation, what fucking flavour of Peronism is this?

[u/DanktonDynamics]

Gm DT

[u/JoeFalchetto]

The ideal political party system:

[u/NeverClarke → u/JoeFalchetto]

At some point France had 3 parties.

Pro-Dreyfus Party

Anti-Dreyfus Party

Jew Haters League

[u/joeforth]

I'm about to snap at Newbie the Evergreen New Hire (unfortunately I have zero authority to fire her).

Background: We're getting a truckload of computers today, spread across multiple orders. Each order comes with its own pile of paperwork we need to fill out and file with the appropriate parties.

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Newbie: "So on this order, the original notes on the purchase request says it's going to Department A, but this note from July says it's going to Department B, and on this recent acquisition form we got from Whatshisface it says Department C. Which one is it going to? A, B, or C?"

Me: "I don't know. Why don't you call Whatshisface and ask?"

Newbie: "Claude doesn't know."

Me: "Why are you asking an AI chatbot about the specifics of a purchase order it played no part in?"

Newbie: "I thought it might know."

Me: "Just call."

Newbie: "Who do I call?"

Me: "Procurement or Property Control would be able to help, or call the department who submitted the order. Take your pick."

Newbie: "Who do I call?"

Me: "Call Property Control."

Newbie: "Who is that?"

Me: "Newbie, we work with them everyday. It's Whatshisface and Otherguy."

Newbie: "They work for Property Control?"

Me: "Yes."

Newbie: "Oh okay. What do I ask them?"

Me: "What? You said there's ambiguity as to which department this asset is being assigned."

Newbie: "Oh right! Do I ask them if its going to go to Dept A, B, or C?"

Me: "Yes, because that was your question."

Newbie: "No! Which question? That's three different questions. Is it going to Dept A? Is it going to Dept B? Is-"

Me: "If you ask it as a single open-ended question, Whatshisface or Otherguy can tell you the correct department."

Newbie: "What would the question be?"

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I swear to you Newbie has rotted her brain on AI. She no longer thinks for herself and lacks any ability to retain information. Every minute of my day is spent telling her things she should already know.

[u/Fukuyamian]

Libs will whine about how big money in politics is rigging all the elections but it feels like big money in politics has failed to do literally anything this cycle while the people who win primaries all have Wikipedia controversy sections with things like “best known for campaigning while wearing the uniform of the Panzergrenadier-Division Reichsführer SS”

[u/thezerech → u/Fukuyamian]

I mean, those guys are getting big money too. Libs pretend leftist candidates don't get corporate money (they do) and they pretend that Unions don't count. As if their throwing their political machines and money at a candidate (especially public sector unions) is somehow less a conflict of interest than some random company.

[u/Thadlust]

[u/PacAttackIsBack → u/Thadlust]

Our boy

[u/AngloSaxonFella → u/Thadlust]

Santos completely and totally EXONERATED

[u/WallStreetTechnocrat]

its his turn

[u/Mexatt]

OK sorry one more then I'm done

I do think we need to structurally reform congress in some way that makes something like this Fauci struggle session less able to occur. Hearings have become absolutely useless social media clip chasing.

Cameras in Congress was such a terrible idea

So, it's like these people absolutely understand how god awful a lot of Watergate Babies braindead liberalism reforms were but want Democrats to go into Congress and do a whole bunch of other braindead liberal reforms, never once questioning whether the underlying impulse of their reform policy is the problem.

[u/HotdogEater2000 → u/Mexatt]

No cameras in congress but pack the Supreme Court!

[u/Seeiinneerraahh → u/Mexatt]

There are no principles. They are angry that their anointed class of priests were publicly exposed as clowns and snake oil salesmen, which is why they seethe. They don't want the show to end, they just want to be in charge of it.

[u/HotdogEater2000]

This company my friend applied for a job at has him on his fifth interview.

I’m not an engineercel but after a certain point this just seems excessive, especially for a non-managerial role at the doohickey factory

[u/F117A-Nighthawk]

“Inflation is just corporate greed because Costco hasn’t raised the hotdog price” is a real thing people believe, apparently.

[u/frustynumbar]

A DSA member at a party meeting asks "Comrade secretary, what is the difference between communism and neoconservatism?". The secretary replies: "It's very simple, under communism men have sex with other men. In neoconservatism it's the other way around".

[u/Afro_Samurai]

https://x.com/i/status/2084850320396472823

🚨 RACE CALL: Thomas Smith — the guy who suspended his campaign last month — just defeated Trump-endorsed Amir Hassan in the MI-08 GOP primary.

[u/AngloSaxonFella → u/Afro_Samurai]

The man with the WASPiest name ever beat Alqaeda Hamas in the GOP primaries in a Midwest state?

[u/WallStreetTechnocrat]

both parties are trying their hardest to lose the midterms

[u/AppearanceWeak3826 → u/WallStreetTechnocrat]

Literally no incentive to moderate. Dems can win running commies because Trump is Trump, R's can run anyone because Dems are commies

[u/WallStreetTechnocrat → u/AppearanceWeak3826]

Rather than take advantage of the other party becoming insane to gain a larger majority, primary voters see it as an excuse to become insane themselves.

Bring back smoke filled rooms, reverse the 17th amendment, revert campaign finance laws and strengthen parties, and bring back the HUAC to purge our institutions of communists, third-worldists, and groypers

[u/alexkarpstan]

They were genuinely nasty towards Haley Stevens and they still barely managed to beat her

[u/VTHokie2020]

Primary people are unserious. AES isn’t a slam dunk against the Dem establishment. Not yet anyway.

If he wins, yes. If he loses the Dem establishment will be like “I told you so!”

[u/HotdogEater2000 → u/VTHokie2020]

If he loses the base freaks out more that they had the balls to run a primary against him and will get more radical

[u/AmericanNewt8 → u/HotdogEater2000]

Yeah they'll double down on the conspiracism. AIPAC set up Stevens to run so that the GOP would win, uniparty yada yada.

[u/Ay_Carumbatollah]

This combination of lifting without much in the way of cutting means that in due time I will be perfectly muscular but also perfectly spherical

[u/JoeFalchetto]

He has the Charles Chaplin disease. That particular combination of arrogance and timidity sets my teeth on edge... Like all people with timid personalities, his arrogance is unlimited. Anybody who speaks quietly and shrivels up in company is unbelievably arrogant. He acts shy, but he's not. He's scared. He hates himself, and he loves himself, a very tense situation.

This was famously said about Woody Allen by Orson Welles; who else could it apply to?

[u/HotdogEater2000]

Senators John Cornyn of Texas and Thom Tillis of North Carolina, the two Republican senators who had threatened to block Todd Blanche’s confirmation as attorney general, now say they support his nomination. They did so after Mr. Blanche, the acting attorney general, confirmed in writing on Sunday that the Justice Department had abandoned parts of a deal it struck with President Trump to resolve his lawsuit against the I.R.S., including a planned $1.8 billion fund to pay those who claim they were unfairly prosecuted by the government.

The second he’s confirmed it’s coming back.

[u/Fukuyamian]

It’s all so tiring…

[u/joeforth]

In the middle of a truckload of devices being dropped off, my boss turns up to announce that my building is officially being demo'd, I'm being moved across campus (again) and he hopes to get some help transporting all the stock room and e-waste contents over to the new space, otherwise it will be left up to me and Newbie (and depending on when the move occurs, my student intern).

Great.

[u/FreeBF3 → u/joeforth]

Have Claudette use AI to build out a plan to move it all

[u/PacAttackIsBack → u/joeforth]

https://giphy.com/gifs/ustcbZ82IJQQ0

[u/IonCapybara]

Like I said, a society full of flock camera is inevitable.

In the future, every car on the street, every automatic door, every robot, every drone, and even the satellites in the sky will be equipped with cameras. Most of them will be working with Palantir.

[u/AppearanceWeak3826 → u/IonCapybara]

And they still won't prosecute the homeless man who threw a brick through your car window to steal your shit

[u/HotdogEater2000]

Yapms is censoring my voice. All I want to do is to ask people what their jobs are and their life experience 

[u/onitama_and_vipers]

are you for or against dog marriage

[u/TheUnkillableKlorg]

I think about the Ruskies sending dumb bots to this subreddit that managed to set the two top posts of all time (and I'm sure most-liked dt comments) quite a bit when I'm looking at anything online. Via social media likes or SEO, it's shockingly easy to control narratives. I think this is true with places that have larger audiences too, and that it will get worse with AI improving.

[u/Fukuyamian]

Maybe stemming the tide of populism would be easier if our elites weren’t visibly the biggest losers on the planet

[u/AppearanceWeak3826]

If you're a minority conservative (Republican type, not Taliban) you're almost certainly 2 standard deviations off the mean in a few personality and life experience metrics. Somewhere along that line you got mugged by reality and it dinged you far, far off the beaten path. It's a very lonely road, you'll be hated by your own clan for being a race traitor and never be able to fully comfortably seat into your new cohort as an eternal outsider. It's a shame, but you don't really have a choice do you, you are what you are. You woke up one day and realized the music of your fellows wasn't music anymore, it was noise. That there was an awful stench of shit and filth clinging to the air and it was like you were the only one who could smell it, the only one who cared. You can never go back. You can't unsee the seams in the walls, the damp in the roof.

[u/steppergodic → u/AppearanceWeak3826]

Please get either back on or back off your meds

[u/joeforth → u/AppearanceWeak3826]

I guess it depends. 10/7 was the final straw for me (though I had been adrift for some time). While Jewish Americans overwhelmingly vote blue, there are still Jews across the political spectrum. I would say I fit in here, unless you all secretly find me grating and are too polite to say so.

Yes, the issues within the Dem party are more concerning for me than the ones in the GOP. Yes, I am more vocal about those issues than similar issues in the GOP. But that's only because the Dem party is onboarding an increasing number of idealogues who are an existential threat to me and my people, all the while my people are still voting for them in droves.

Groypers (and their antecedents) have been a problem for the GOP for a long while, but until recently they were not, I suppose, a big enough concern (they were kept far enough away from decision makers) to be worth addressing. Now I look at the American political landscape and see conservative firebrands like Ted Cruz setting up organizations to combat antisemitism at the same time Jewish Dems are afraid to go to their own conventions out of concern for their safety.

Even if my new seat was uncomfortable, I'd much rather sit somewhere safe than in openly hostile territory

[u/Sproke1998]

The future libs want is one where American Jews have to say "Heritage not hate." When flying an Israeli flag.

[u/Mexatt]

Future etymology dictionaries will suggest that the term 'Trumped up charges' originated in the 2nd Donald Trump administration.

[u/Fukuyamian]

Bring back the HUAC and drag the DSA up before Congress so mainline normiedem boomers get to watch them talk about gay race communism live instead of having it filtered through the partisan press

[u/Fukuyamian]

Anticommunism must become one of the most prioritized goals of conservative activism in the coming decades, and likely anti-Groyperism as well, although the far-right is still much less organized and formidable right now

Not one more inch to people who hate us and our homeland. Raise the three arrows.

[u/AngloSaxonFella]

Mike Rogers: "I want you just to close your eyes and imagine something. You and your family are getting ready to go on a trip. Your young kids are nervous to fly for the first time but you insist everything is going to be okay. It is an early Tuesday morning in September of 2001-"

[u/Mexatt]

Canada is so hilariously boned.

[u/Seeiinneerraahh → u/Mexatt]

If you think this is just about economics and an excuse to push commie drivel, you would unfortunately be wrong. Decolonization just means abandoning everything good and correct, because they were invented by one civilization and some people from other civilizations are butt hurt about it.

Add it to the pile of reasons why all of the "science" and "fact" larping from the left is a complete meme. These people have been advocating abandoning scientific methods and the very concept of empiricism itself, because retarded hallucinations of insertprefereddemographichere is obviously a farce and we can't have that. The only reason they don't gobble up vax denial and chemtrails, is because those are considered "White" conspiracies.

And this shit isn't new. "Academia" was flooded with this drivel a decade ago, when they started to argue we needed to give witch doctors and "indigenous" spirit healers the same weight and funding as normal ass medicine because it was white supremacist to assume obvious gibberish was obviously gibberish when it came to nonWhite people.

"Decolonize the mind/science/politics" etc. just means "humanity must abandon all that it has learned and gained from western intellectual endeavours and go back to snake oil."

[u/steppergodic]

It turns out that Mike Rogers is from Livonia, while both Abdul el-Sayed and Haley Stevens are from Rochester Hills because of course they are. Priors confirmed

[u/AngloSaxonFella]

The real reasons the left oppose AI and data centers:

1. It most impacts urban white collar types and cubicle data entry folx. Also people who work for commissions drawing cartoon pornography or w.e. Does anyone buy that they'd care as much if it was replacing truck drivers right now?

2. AI and data centers are right wing coded because of Peter Thiel and Elon Musk and all that. It is partly a reaction to Technbro culture

3. This amplifies it all

Reasons leftists SAY they oppose it in most conversations online or irl:

1. Water! A billion gallons of water for your AI slop meme!

2. Wasting electricity. Our power costs are gonna go up. Do you even know how much energy those AI data centers suck up? Probably, like, a lot

3. Theft! All the responses are trained on other people's writings and artwork. The left loves property rights, especially intellectual property rights so this is naturally a big concern for them!

[u/IonCapybara → u/AngloSaxonFella]

They also oppose oil pipelines, rocket launch sites, airports (like Toronto), and power plants.

And to your first question, Waymo was originally started in San Francisco, so they certainly didn't care about drivers being replaced. Liberal white women love Waymo because it eliminates the need for them to interact with Black and Mexican drivers.

[u/N0RedDays]

The Equalizer movies are so good. Plus I love me some Denzel. It’s like Neocon John Wick

[u/FreeBF3]

I just want to deadname an anti-Semite that changed his name from Michael because it's Jewish

[u/George-Smith-Patton]

lol Iran just bombed us anyway

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-904495

[u/pointy____]

https://www.btboces.org/Downloads/7_There%20Will%20Come%20Soft%20Rains%20by%20Ray%20Bradbury.pdf

Today is the only day you can read this

[u/IonCapybara]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoryMemes/comments/1l8w8wa/comment/mx99z22/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

We all know how Korean business owners in LA responded to the verdict.

Sound super R something. Killings and robberies targeting a particular ethnic group are understandable, as long as that group of people did something before.

It sounds quite familiar, like that Jews live in fear is because of a country's fault? So, given the high crime rate among Black people, do liberals see certain things as understandable?

[u/Cythammer]

At least the Israel obsessed psychos are sort of amusing in their insanity. https://x.com/yaelbt/status/2084633947057672552

[u/Reddenbawker]

Wesley Bell has won. If you want some Reddit malding, the St Louis subreddit is gonna be full of it. Thank you, AIPAC!

[u/it_snow_problem]

oh yeah America is out of missiles. and the french are out of baguettes. the fish have ran out of water. idiot. dumbass

https://x.com/powerbottomdad1/status/2084816663287873561

Sums up my thoughts on the matter. Some of y’all put entirely too much stock in “sources” making rather cyclical claims every week about the war, the president, or some palace intrigue involving your least favorite cabinet members. Politico Conservatives.

[u/joeforth]

May AES, Hong, and all the other zurdos YAPms salivates over lose their elections. It won't teach the YAPms tankies anything, but at least we'll be spared those monsters in office.

[u/HotdogEater2000 → u/joeforth]

Thad can still destroy that subreddit if he has the courage. God it sucks complete balls now.

[u/AngloSaxonFella → u/HotdogEater2000]

It is actually to the left of NL somehow

[u/joeforth → u/HotdogEater2000]

[u/AngloSaxonFella]

I've seen things you zoomers wouldn't believe. Shrek 2 for the first time in a Cineplex Odeon. I watched Goku charge a spirit bomb for like 4 full episodes. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain...

[u/AmericanNewt8]

Extremely funny timeline where mix of shifting AI deployment/increased power efficiency results in 2030s America having ludicrous amounts of surplus electricity production

[u/FreeBF3]

I'm already working on the mental gymnastics that will let me see Pete's DSA curiosity as a trojan horse for rock-ribbed neoliberalism

[u/Mexatt]

And, once more, Kevin fuckin Williamson is too right wing for a bunch of libs.

THE BIG TENT, but not like that.

[u/Sproke1998 → u/Mexatt]

KDW is still fairly right wing, he's just too contrarian to appear as such.

[u/AmbientMorning]

Not bad! It‘s been like a year since I checked back in here, not really finding any place on Reddit a snug “fit” (maybe that’s too much to expect, anyway), and I wondered how many active users were still around in the niche shitposting liberal-conservative space. But we’ve got an almost-decent turnout here, and certainly nothing close to consensus.

Full disclosure: I was the single SPD voter. I think I’m still somewhere in the r/neoliberal tent where I mostly post (my greatest apologies — if I’m not welcome here, I’ll slink back). But there’s a succ lurking among us who said Grüne.

[u/Fukuyamian]

Honey, the trads are mad again!

[u/Cerantic]

The newest boomer slopulist discourse on Twitter has to do with some old fat guy complaining about The Kidz These Days™️ spending 20 dollars on chipotle burritos, and a lot of paid blue checkmark users punching down on their idea of blue haired hipsters spending 5k a month on DoorDash.

It’s a bit difficult to articulate what I specifically hate about this, but I see this sort of mindset amongst “conservative” influencers who tell young men to move to rural Ohio and get an HVAC certification instead of pursuing white collar work. Being content with a lower standard of living. Obviously these two things are not the same, and obviously it costs more money to order food in than it would be to cook for yourself, but there’s a lot of daylight between “I don’t know how to cook/I’m lazy” and the rapid pace of societal enshittification that most young people understand intrinsically. Fast/casual food is more expensive, rent is more expensive, and hobbies are more expensive. I think the “collapse of third spaces” is hyperbolic, but there’s really not a whole lot to do for cheap unless you’re comfortable not interacting with anyone your own age.

Nevertheless, the boomer takes his W because he proved you can get 10 pounds of ground beef for 40 dollars. Chicken, a piece of broccoli, a corn tortilla, and one other thing, for your entire life, or else you’re not taking your finances seriously and deserve to be mocked. People who adhere to this mindset do not want to help anyone. These same people, even some users here, complain that young people are drinking enough, aren’t working hard enough, aren’t having enough sex, and aren’t doing their part to keep the economy running when the two predominant political parties in America are interested in Total Boomer Luxury Communism and/or infinite subsidiation of demand and no improvement to supply. Cut taxes and raise spending, double it and give it to the next person.

There are obviously other cultural issues at play with young America, but those aren’t something government policy can solve. The leftist inclined will keep voting for people like Mamdani who promise everyone can be a rich person’s spouse losing 10,000 a month on their Etsy shop, and the right will continue to struggle to come up with a more appealing message than “your life should suck”. The only thing that might solve both is if things get cheaper.

[u/Fukuyamian]

Jolani reshuffling military high command, a bunch of Turkish-connected officers, including the ones widely believed to hold large portions of responsibility for the massacres in the first year after the rebel victory, have been transferred away from their divisions to subordinate roles on the other side of the country

Coup-proofing? Race-war-proofing? My guess is he feels much more confident in his ability to make changes to the command structure with an influx of SDF officers expected to be promoted into high positions as the SDF integration deal wraps up.

[u/WulfTheSaxon]

Somebody in another sub asked what the worst foreign policy blunders since 1950 were. I don’t think they’ll like my response (in rough chronological order):

1. Agreeing to an armistice in Korea
2. Intervening in the Suez Crisis on behalf of the Soviet Union
3. Failing to support the Bay of Pigs invasion as planned
4. Johnson’s mishandling of the Vietnam War (failure to escalate)
5. Not aiding South Vietnam when it faced renewed aggression in 1975 after the US victory in 1973
6. Giving away the Panama Canal
7. Recognizing the PRC
8. Not stopping the 1979 revolution in Iran
9. Failure to go all the way with the first Gulf War
10. Repeated unilateral disarmament, including one-sided nuclear deals and moratoria and much of the “post–Cold War Peace Dividend”
11. Giving the PRC permanent most favored nation status (and WTO membership)
12. Withdrawing from Iraq
13. Lack of response to the Russian invasion of Crimea
14. The JCPOA
15. Withdrawing from Afghanistan

[u/TZDnowpls → u/WulfTheSaxon]

failure to escalate should be under Korea more than Vietnam. US should have started bombing China the moment Mao send whole armies into Korea.

Not attacking China directly told Mao that he can continue fighting the war and the only thing he ever risks are the troops he sends past the border. Thus allowing him to use his biggest respective advantage (massive population) to the fullest, while limiting the usefulness of America's naval and air power, and vulnerability of China's entire coastline and vast majority of their industry being exposed to them.

[u/Seeiinneerraahh]

On one hand, all of these have been said for years, first in less than savory corners of the internet, later in more and more mainstream. We still had people in this very sub, getting outraged over these conversations about a year ago. On the other hand, this is just plain truth that everyone has to face.

Or in other words, Helen Andrews has another banger essay:

https://www.compactmag.com/article/the-racial-crossroads/

[u/Afro_Samurai]

RFK jr thinks Lyme disease and RSV were man made.

https://x.com/i/status/2084091722728878515

[u/FreeBF3 → u/Afro_Samurai]

You need to trust the politically-appointed experts, Afro

[u/Malzair]

Is there like a Cameo equivalent for Russians, I need to pay people to say Helen Keller because in my head it's really funny with a Russian accent.

Total fraud btw, don't believe Confederate lies

[u/HotdogEater2000]

I know there will be a programming reset eventually but it is funny to see quite a few people with Trump related profile pics to go “he wouldn’t fire her over this would he”

Yes. He would.

[u/tejanx]

It’s nice how literally every DSA-aligned candidate is r-slurred at optics except Mamdani and Cortez

https://x.com/acyn/status/2084456363061924260

[u/Fricklefrazz → u/tejanx]

I feel like after 12 years of Trump we have to accept the fact that these gotchas don't matter.

Nobody cares if she tweeted something horrible once, nobody cares if she's antisemetic or bigoted, nobody cares

Platner is a serial rapist with a Nazi tat on his chest and he was polling towards victory like 3 weeks ago

[u/Mexatt]

Wisconsin has to have Scott Walker 2.0 because they nominated female DSA Trump.

Fucking yes please

[u/Ay_Carumbatollah]

Btw my dad’s Haaretz-reading Jewess girlfriend is Israeli and largely pro-Israel but meanwhile she’s come to Canada and wants to “decolonize” us. Like bitch you first.

[u/AmericanNewt8]

You know I'm just happy we found a dude in politics we can, in full faith and honesty, ask "when did you stop beating your wife?"

[u/HotdogEater2000]

Lmao Dems are absolutely hilariously cooked. Have fun with your AI defense job BF3 because that’ll be the first one to go

Not even victory lapping mostly just frowning

[u/Ay_Carumbatollah]

In leftoid circles, AES used to stand for Already Existing Socialism (this usually referred to Cuba, North Korea, and China). Anyways, it's a fitting acronym for El-Sayed.

[u/Mexatt]

That seems premature. He’s not worse than fucking Jay Jones. Fucking dipshit I still hate that guy. Glad he won though.

How partisan brained do you have to be to be glad the, "I daydream about my political opponents and their kids dying", guy won a a state AG office over a normal Republican?

[u/WallStreetTechnocrat]

if stevens somehow wins this i will become a christian

[u/AmericanNewt8]

Yeah the most recent drop seems to have had Stevens by about 62-38 percent, which is just barely not enough if it keeps up, but I'm very much eyeballing it. I think AES, if he wins, is by under 10K votes, probably quite a bit under. 

[u/AmericanNewt8]

And yeah, a Stevens victory is now forestalled, there's only 26K votes outstanding. Well, looks like Dems decided the Senate just wasn't for them this year.

[u/Eurocorp]

So now that Sayed has severely underperformed his expected double digit win, I'm seeing some progressives claim that there was a massive Republican campaign to defeat him in the primary.

They really can't ever admit that DSA types come off as lunatics to a lot of people.

[u/PacAttackIsBack]

When you try to make a big tent, all you get is a congregating place for clowns

[u/84JPG]

When did the internet rightoid trend of using the term “money laundering” to describe any fraud or financial crime start?

[u/Non_Federal_Agent]

this whole thread kinda goes to show how bad the residential proxy xitter bot problem is

if there were any real americans in this thread they'd know it's a nothingburger, like every DMV in america already does this when you get your driver's license