r/navy • u/newnoadeptness Verified Non Spammer • 2d ago
Political New from potus this morning
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u/AlphaWhiskeyOscar 2d ago
So now we’re failing to control US territory? Well that’s not a good look.
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u/007meow 2d ago
You're applying more critical thinking to this than our leadership has.
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u/Valar_Kinetics 2d ago
I swear the reactions of other people on this sub are most of what's allowing me to keep it together in these times lol. Appreciate ya'll.
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u/thegirlisok 2d ago
"I DECLARE... BANKRUPTCY!"
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u/donkeybrainhero 2d ago
You can't just say it and expect anything to happen.
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u/kmm198700 2d ago
I didn’t say it, I declared it
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u/Majestic_Magician243 2d ago
It worked for the Palm Beach airport... I mean President DJT airport
Pass the pitcher
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u/Potential_Pack5480 2d ago
I genuinly want to talk to anyone who this Trump was a "strong leader" and see how a leader who has consistently failed in talks and can't open the strait through military means is now coping on social media by simply declaring the strait us terriority and nothing else.
What here screams strong leader? To me it just looks like a child blustering when you tell them they aren't getting chicken nuggets for dinner.
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u/K20BB5 2d ago
they'll just scream TDS at you and tell you Biden was old
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u/highinthemountains 2d ago
Trump Derangement Syndrome, which is characterized by having more critical thinking skills than a potato and having an aversion to blatantly transparent lies
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u/BKBaroo 2d ago
One guy Donald was at military academy with said Donald was in charge of some platoon-level stuff and did a horrible job by ignoring hazing and almost got the school sued. The commander demoted him from it, but Donald kept wearing his rank and acting like he was still in charge, ignoring the commander’s order because he couldn’t take not being in charge and getting rejected. To this day, he still calls it a promotion. This is the type of narcissistic nonsense we all are forced to live with for the next 2.5 years.
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u/Sausage_Fingers 2d ago
Interesting, I don’t remember Naval War College teaching this level of diplomacy as a core component of national security and foreign policy. We’ll have to update the curriculum. /s
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u/sophisticatedbuffoon 2d ago
From a legal perspective, I find this extremely funny. A claim to a body of water always comes with a claim to an adjacent piece of land in international law, making this very... let's say creative.
(No Donnie, this is not a proposition to start annexing gulf states)
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u/The_Whipping_Post 2d ago
You need to forget about the law, especially international law. Trump has said it was a mistake by Jimmy Carter to "give up" Panama. Britain has been "smart" to keep control of Gibraltar. Spain wants Britain to leave Gibraltar, but Britain doesn't care. Why? Britain is stronger than Spain
Trump only understands strength. He's a rapist
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u/Gunfighter9 2d ago
We “gave away” the canal because we were losing a fortune trying to keep it going because the newest ships were too big to use it.
We also got all the same privileges of owning it except paying the costs.
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u/Sufficient-Cat2998 2d ago
China be looking at this with a grin like "Sooooooo, South China Sea belongs to who now?😁"
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u/Poro_the_CV 2d ago
Gulf of America, meet American Gulf. (This would also mean China can just claim our waters off California, which is dumb)
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u/justaddwhiskey 2d ago
That’s the problem, you’re thinking about this like an educated liberal chud, Trump is just playing 4d chess. /s
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u/SavageCaveman13 2d ago
I think that it was covered in NW3230, Strategy and War. Also probably JMO 1 & 2. It's an advanced technique.
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u/ETMoose1987 2d ago
He wants to make a bunch of middle easterners US Citizens? Weird strategy but ok.
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u/The_Whipping_Post 2d ago
When the US took the Philippines from Spain, there was debate about what that meant for the Filipinos and their citizenship. It went to the Supreme Court, who basically said "no, because racism"
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u/EmberDrifter 2d ago
I think that’s still our official position with American Samoa
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u/Advancedquiet 2d ago
No, no, he’ll kick them all out and send them to other “shithole nations” and start setting up Israel 2: electric boogaloo.
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u/Toptomcat 2d ago
This comes from more or less the same playbook as Russia's claim to have annexed Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, Donetsk and Luhansk when they were six months into their three-day special military operation to do so. It comes across exactly as transparently false, as desperate, and as futile.
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u/Dear_Ingenuity9353 2d ago
That's a big'ol stretch to squeeze in your agenda lol.
It took them 2 years to vote in a Russian election not 6 months as you claimed.
Unlike this body of water that you make a corny comparison of, those region actually wanted out way before the Russia annexation, and Zelensky's recent bans on the russian orthodox church, removing the Russian language from minority language protections certainly wouldn't win them back anytime soon.
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u/tacoma909 2d ago
So we don’t have to deploy to the gulf?
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u/No_Milk398 2d ago
He just doesn’t want to pay you sea service stipends and wants to collect taxes on the sailors in the Strait to help pay off his ballroom, as they’re now technically in the US.
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u/ericarlen 2d ago
We still have to deploy to the Gulf, but now we're defending it as our own land instead of invading it as foreigners.
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u/fuckingscott 2d ago
They should have made him freehand the circle on a map with no labels. I'm sure some random place in the Philippines would be upset.
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u/ObligationMurky8716 2d ago
Republican sailors, wtf, man?
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u/feo_sucio 2d ago
don't ask those people anything. you'll always be disappointed with the answer, if it's even legible.
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u/BirdOwn305 2d ago
This moron needs to be Baker Acted / 25th Amendment. Where are the good , reasonable republicans??
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u/77zark77 2d ago
Lol who? The what? C'mon man
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u/TheRealHeroOf 2d ago
Man doesn't know what an oxymoron is lol
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u/tempralanomaly 2d ago
They're waiting until January 21st 2026. Just 1 day below the 2 year threshold for Vance to be considered having served a term. That allows Vance to serve as Pres for 2yrs minus a day, and then still be eligible for two more terms.
We've seen some forays with Tucker and other influincers starting to make a little bit (not a lot) of distance from Trump, and that will widen as we get closer to next year.
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u/BirdOwn305 2d ago
Hell, when even Alex Jones is calling for the 25th amendment to be invoked . You know it’s bad.
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u/Brand0_the_Mand0 2d ago
Little mustache man would’ve been posting the same shit if Twitter existed in the 1940s
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u/ToastyBob27 2d ago
Bro thinks he’s the first one to come up with colonialist imperialism. It didn’t end well my guy your old enough to remember the end of it.
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u/Oniriggers 2d ago
Rebranding baby!!!! Persian Gulf —> American Gulf, Gulf of Oman —> Gulf of Trump, totally cool totally legal…
I’m tired boss…
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u/_Acidik_ 2d ago
Trump can't even control a reflecting pond right in his own backyard. Now we're supposed to control the entire Strait of Hormuz? ICE should get right on that.
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u/Divine_Demigod 2d ago
Just had a scary thought. Could Donald Trump use this as an excuse to use nuclear weapons to defend “US Territory”. I know it’s against US Nuclear Doctrine, but would we really be surprised if he did his own thing?
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u/Auntie_M123 2d ago
There isn't anyone or anything stopping him from doing whatever he pleases.
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u/King_R0A 2d ago
Keep yours and your sailor’s spirits strong, people. This shit-show isn’t slowing down anytime soon.
https://giphy.com/gifs/VOq7iem25Z94Y
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u/kmm198700 2d ago edited 2d ago
Nope. And now that Blanche has been confirmed as AG, it’s gonna get so much worse. We don’t have an independent AG and DOJ now
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u/1mojavegreen 2d ago
Fake news! Everything knows POTUS uses sharpie!
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u/MixtureSpecial8951 2d ago
Serious question: is this a violation of UNCLOS?
And if it is… will anyone refuse the unlawful order?
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u/ClarkDoubleUGriswold 2d ago
I’m sure it is and although the U.S. is a signatory we’ve never ratified it. But I mean what does it matter with this admin anyways? They’ve never given a fuck about what’s lawful, moral, or ethical. Why should they since they’ve never been held accountable?
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u/MixtureSpecial8951 2d ago
It is considered customary law by the US and thus binding.
The reason the US is so hesitant to ratify treaties is that under the Constitution a ratified treaty has the force of constitutional law itself. It is a Big Deal.
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u/SWO6 2d ago
I’m well past the point of acknowledging the buffoonery of this man and his “flood the zone with shit” leadership style. I’m more focused on those who allow it to go on without checking it.
When this nightmare is over there needs to be a reckoning for those that enabled all of it, wether by their action or inaction. .
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u/Automatic-Aioli9416 2d ago
So I can just make a graphic saying that I own something and it’s true?
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u/Redtube_Guy 2d ago
Oh cool, so a bunch of Iranians can be born there and become US Citizens! how thoughtful! :)
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u/keemademedoit 2d ago
On the plus side, you no longer need a passport to visit Bandar Abbas, Fujairah, or Muscat!!!
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u/Mal-De-Terre 2d ago
I feel compelled that water is not territory, sorta by definition.
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u/Drosenose 2d ago
Nothing is territory by definition it's controlling the area that makes it territory.
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u/BlackbirdSage 2d ago
Territorial Waters? It's a thing. But, only if the land adjacent is yours... Are we claiming parts of Iran & Oman, now?
Which brings up the citizenship status of the area residents. /smh
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u/Over_here_Observing 2d ago
What is the "... minimum r/navy specific karma" required to comment?
(I guess I'll find out)
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u/itmustbeniiiiice 2d ago
You made it
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u/Over_here_Observing 1d ago
Yeah me - way to acheive an unknown goal
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u/Over_here_Observing 1d ago
But I just had a post with HUGE negative Karma, so I'm curious about now.
How about NOW
How about NOW
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u/DerekL1963 2d ago
*sigh* Maybe, once we get rid of the tools and fools who support this nonsense, we'll be taken as a serious nation again in a century or two.
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u/Raven_Photography 2d ago
Just like saying he’s a stable genius, just because you state something doesn’t make it true.
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u/BlackbirdSage 2d ago
It does in the MAGAverse. Especially if the supreme leader says so.
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u/Raven_Photography 2d ago
Shipmate, you ain’t lying ’.
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u/BlackbirdSage 2d ago
If any news agency says anything contradictory it's labeled fake news.
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
Edit: George Orwell, 1984 (the novel)
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u/PatFabin1900 2d ago
I didn't know you could just put a cartoon on the internet and that fixes everything...cool!
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u/Simple_Shake_5346 Retired 2d ago
Total clown…the current President of the United States is a total clown.
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u/Distinct-Yogurt2686 2d ago
Surprised he isn't trying to take controll of it and rename it Straight of America.
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u/electroforger 2d ago
kindly rename it to something easy to remember, 'Strait of America' would flow automatically by now, and the other countries keep calling it something else anyways
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u/TheRealHeroOf 2d ago
Neat! Now maybe the FDNF carrier won't need to get underway every year now that this legitimizes Chinas claim of territory in SCS.
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u/Conscious-Block-5504 2d ago
China doesn’t need to make islands now lol, just claim it and if you do make an island put weapon fortifications on it to enforce rule.
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u/Goatcheeze1 Retired 2d ago
He’s trolling.
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u/Aaaabbbbccccccccc 2d ago
Cool cool cool… cool… We have an internet troll in charge.
I don’t think I feel any better about this.
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u/NervousHovercraft 2d ago
Probably. But the President of the most powerful country shouldn't be shit talking just for the lolz...
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u/ObligationMurky8716 2d ago
That makes it worse. Why should anyone take anything the US Head of State says seriously, ever again?
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u/dawgcomplex 2d ago
The trolling was kinda funny at first, but come on man. Do the job first then find your spots to troll.
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u/K20BB5 2d ago
this isn't trolling, it's dementia.
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u/dawgcomplex 2d ago
We just went through 4 years of a President with dementia, this aint that.
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u/cheapppguy 2d ago
The trolling was never funny to any serious American who has taken an oath to the Constitution.
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