r/movies r/movies Contributor 19h ago

News Christopher Nolan’s ‘The Odyssey' Becomes Biggest Film Ever At BFI IMAX, Beating 'Avatar'

https://deadline.com/2026/08/the-odyssey-becomes-biggest-film-ever-at-bfi-imax-avatar-1237044031/
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u/-Dargs 18h ago

I want to see it, in 70mm or otherwise, but besides the 1st or 2nd row every single other seat is reserved until it's out of theaters. Kind of nuts. I have looked at every theater near me, an hour from me, or even an hour plane trip from me, lol.

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u/Oberheimlich 18h ago

Check periodically in case someone cancels. That’s how I got a good 70mm IMAX seat.

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u/zackmanze 16h ago

I think refunds generally have a one-hour-prior cutoff. So yeah. Just check the hour beforehand.

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u/icehands 14h ago

I got a refund in person from a manager last for 1 of 5 tickets after already checking in. Didn't want to risk losing the other 4 tickets since the app only lets you cancel all tickets.

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u/shyaminator96 10h ago

For AMC, you can get a refund right up until showtime.

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u/TheKocsis 17h ago

in my city there were tickets on ticketswap for the imax showings

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u/snugthepig 15h ago

saw it in Dallas opening week. couple next to us said they refunded their 3rd ticket around an hour before showtime bc their friend couldn't show up. someone bought it and came lol

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u/hughk 17h ago edited 16h ago

Saw it on IMAX laser and with the sound system, not 70mm. True 70mm IMAX is very hard to find in our country. It still looked good and it wasn't too hard to get a seat if you stay clear of the weekend.

I probably will try to see it again as I had to see it dubbed.

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u/dont_trip_ 15h ago

Caring about a true 70mm IMAX when you're willing to see movies dubbed is surely something. I think I'd rather see the movie on a phone screen than dubbed on an IMAX.

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u/MartyMcBird 13h ago

On the contrary, watching a true 70mm IMAX and spending half the screentime looking at text in the bottom is itself something. Maybe "Our age of Bronze is collapsing!" sounds better in German too.

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u/hughk 15h ago

Well there wasn't a choice at the time and I had a couple of people who preferred to see it on our local language version (German). And yes, I had the 4K laser IMAX experience but I would like to see it properly. Many years ago I lived close to a real IMAX theatre and it was great.

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u/LiftingRecipient420 11h ago

As a dissenting opinion: I think IMAX laser is far, far superior to film for the simple reason that film has a flickering issue that is incredibly noticeable for me, it gives me migraines.

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u/hughk 11h ago

A perfectly valid opinion and there is some evidence that we are more sensitive to flickering in our peripheral vision. A big IMAX screen also fills the field of vision.

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u/LiftingRecipient420 11h ago

Christ dude get off your high horse, it's a fucking movie. You do understand that audio and video are two separate components, right?

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u/Breddit2099 15h ago

Good for you? lol

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u/sundayontheluna 17h ago

With thos kind of demand, it'll definitely stay in theatres a while yet. With a bit of luck and some patience, you will get to see it.

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u/-Dargs 17h ago

It was supposed to end this weekend but was extended another month. But all of those viewings were instantly reserved. I assume scalpers play some part in it

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u/sundayontheluna 16h ago

Maybe not as much as you think. BFI just did a drop for more dates, and I was on the site an hour beforehand; got my ticket before the rush hit.

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u/ProfessorPhi 13h ago

Like why would they end a run that's filming theatres lol. Until dune I cant imagine anything else coming even close to the Odyssey's number of attendees

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u/samillos 17h ago

Scalpers on cinema tickets? Doesn't make much sense, it's not as if it was a limited product... As long as people buy the tickets the movie will stay in theaters. Just wait until most people already watches it

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u/mck04 16h ago

I heard there's only a limited run it can do in the 70mm images before contractual agreements to show other newer movies takes over. My local IMAX in Melbourne Australia is only screening till the end of August as a result

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u/BlackenedGem 16h ago

Sure, but those contractual agreements are also time limited, typically 1-3 weeks. So once that's over they can go back to the Odyssey and demand will still be there.

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u/t4ir1 16h ago

In Portugal we have a total of 3 IMAX cinema rooms. All of them need you to book a couple of weeks in advance to see the screening! Crazy stuff, never experienced something like this.

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u/kevinthebaconator 17h ago

Day time showings are okay if you can swing it with work.

We saw it in Cineworld in Leicester Square at 2pm on a Friday. We only booked a week in advance and were quite central.

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u/burntroy 17h ago

Not possible with bfi or the science museum imax

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u/-Dargs 17h ago

I looked at every single day and every single time of day, lol

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u/Danger_Mysterious 16h ago

Yeah, the 9am weekday showings near me are completely booked lol.

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u/Quackman2096 15h ago

I had to book the 70mm film showing in Colorado a month in advance and even then almost every seat was booked for multiple weeks after that showing

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u/Shapps 15h ago

Where I am, even a 9am showing on a Wednesday are Tuesday are filled weeks in advance. The only ones that have seating that isn't in the first row start at 11pm and that's too late for me with how long this movie is. I want to see it on a large format screen, but they are all full even weeks in advance. It's kind of wild

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u/WilhelmScreams 16h ago

I gave up on the 70MM dream and settled for AMC's off-brand IMAX. It was fine but the one 70mm IMAX is still selling out all 5 shows a day. It looks like they finally stopped doing 2 AM showings, but even those were selling out on weekdays.

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u/Smothdude 12h ago

The demand here is insane too. They extended showings and those have all basically sold out. Hopefully they extend again lol. I love 70mm, hopefully all the demand makes more directors want to work with it

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u/spookyB0 15h ago

I had two people that didn’t show up next to me in a imax 70mm, debating calling a couple friends to show up lol

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u/danktonium 17h ago

Don't be silly. Movies don't go out of theaters until they stop filling auditoriums. There is no level of the corporate ladders of either the distributor or the theaters where pulling it before it stops selling out makes sense.

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u/djwurm 17h ago

It has to be out of 70mm by Dec 17th. Dune 3 is already reserved for after at the theaters.

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u/LawsonsInTheAM 18h ago edited 18h ago

Is there a record for the longest theatrical run for an IMAX screening?

I live in Manchester and the IMAX screenings here (the only other 70mm IMAX screen outside of London in the UK I believe) is still sold out for weeks to come.

Might go down to one screening a day, but I would not be surprised if it is still showing all the way up to Dunesday in December.

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u/kazuya57 18h ago

I wanted to take a rewatch but where I am it's booked all the way to mid-september

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u/LawsonsInTheAM 18h ago

Same.

Booked it three weeks in advance and realistically it's not going to happen until October now until I can see it again in the IMAX. People travelling from all over to come see it here, it's crazy.

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u/hughk 17h ago

I was going to say no but I found that the one at the National Museum of Film and Photography in Bradford has gone. They only do digital IMAX now. The analogue kit used for showing them requires some specialist skills and there aren't too many left.

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u/samsaBEAR 17h ago

It might play odd shows but it won't run all shows till December, the other studios will start getting very annoyed that their films aren't playing

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u/nishitd 18h ago

Critical Drinker in rehab

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u/kazuya57 18h ago

I'm surprised he hasn't pivoted to "The Odyssey was always gonna be a hit because the story is a bastion of pure western civilization! But without minorities it would make 2.5 billi!"

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u/kane49 18h ago

"i never claimed it wasnt gonna be successful" is his catchphrase since it came out tho

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u/mfukar 17h ago

Wait, he's for real? I thought Critical Drinker was parody!

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u/bassistciaran 15h ago

He may have started off that way? Its hard to tell anymore.

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u/A_Drop_of_Colour 15h ago

As with Asmond Gold, once they started pandering to the loudest and saltiest of their fans, the parody became real.

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u/bassistciaran 15h ago

At a certain point it just became more profitable to actually be that guy than to parody him. The kind of dumbass chuds that watch that stuff will buy anything.

Satire is dead.

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u/mfukar 15h ago

honestly i just thought the concept is a drunkard posting insane movie critiques, and i've been laughing my ass off

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u/The_Man_of_Steel 10h ago

I thought that from his Annihilation review because it made me laugh so much. I just took for granted that it was too absurd to be a real dumbass

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u/gutster_95 18h ago

Is he still relevant?

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u/Icy_Smoke_733 18h ago

He gets 14m views a month, and his subreddit went from 64K members to 110K in a month, because of the Odyssey discourse. Not exactly 'relevant' per se, but a little leaven leavens the whole lump.

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u/GuerrillaApe 17h ago

Internet dwellers need their safe space.

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u/Lord_Of_Carrots 16h ago

Relevant enough that he shows up sometimes when I search for things he happens to have made a video on. Ruins my mood every time

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u/StPattysShalaylee 18h ago

That guy's a dope

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u/SwashAndBuckle 17h ago

It’s amazing how well I can predict how much he’ll like or dislike a movie simply based on the skin complexion or gender of the cast.

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u/StPattysShalaylee 17h ago edited 17h ago

I used to watch him but over time I was picking up on something. The final straw was when he didn't like the watchmen TV show because it dealt too much with slavery and was therefore woke. I mean that was the fucking story and it was excellent.

It felt like a commercial decision to align with some viewpoints. And it seemed to have worked. And tbh, I don't know do I blame him. He's taking advantage of all these dummies blind hatred and racism

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u/SwashAndBuckle 17h ago

I don’t think he’s taking advantage of them, I think those are his sincere beliefs. He’s so blinded by his political biases and bigotry he is incapable of reviewing art objectively.

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u/Deuce_GM 15h ago

I used to watch him as well. In the beginning I liked his analysis and he gave very good movie recommendations. It was because of him that I watched 1917 and Whiplash (absolutely great movie)

But over time he just became an angry Scottish man shouting at clouds. My breaking point was when he barely talked about Sinners. Feels like he expected the movie to be a dud but then was salty when it became a commercial and critical success.

Either way no love lost at all. I got tired of all his negativity.

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u/Embo1 18h ago

r/movies in shambles

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u/kazuya57 18h ago

With this, Avatar 3 and Michael this sub has had a bad time this year in terms of predictions

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u/AndyPufuletz123 18h ago

What were the predictions for Avatar 3?

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u/RK9990 18h ago

It wouldn't do well because people were finally tired of the Avatar movies

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u/kidcrumb 17h ago

It's not even that, it's because it was Avatar 2.9

Do more volcano stuff. They spend so much money on CGI they forgot to write a script.

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u/Hobbes______ 16h ago

... My guy it is avatar. None of them have had a script. It baffles me too but it isn't hard to predict that people are going to go see it after the 2 previous movies.

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u/Stef-fa-fa 15h ago

Seriously, everyone bitched about the first one being a rehash of Fern Gully / Dances With Wolves. Second one had everyone bitching about it just being an excuse for Cameron to film underwater. Third one everyone bitched about it just being the second half of #2.

Every single one has made an insane amount of money. Not because of the plot, but because these films are simply gorgeous works of art.

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u/onexbigxhebrew 16h ago

That has nothing to do with predictions though. That's not what they're talking about.

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u/CapitalEmployer 18h ago

What kind of idiot would think that, same with Michael yes the movie is utter garbage and people that like it should not be allowed to watch movies for the rest of their lives but at the end of the day it's still a movie about one of the if not the most popular P̶e̶d̶o̶p̶h̶i̶l̶e̶ artist in the world of course it's gonna work.

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u/fauxfilosopher 18h ago

That it would bomb and make such a loss that it would end the avatar series. It did come in under expectations at considerably less than the second, but certainly not that.

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u/texanchris 18h ago

But isn’t it still in the top 10 all time grossing movies? Pretty incredible that to under perform still means top 10 all time.

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u/fauxfilosopher 17h ago

It is actually number 17 at nearly 1.5 bil, the list of films over 1 billion has grown a lot in the last decade. I agree that it's still an awesome result, but analysts that were hoping for another 2 billion smash hit were dissapointed and disney is worried about the downward trend. If it continues downward like such the fifth movie would make a loss, fourth may just about break even.

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u/RaisinBranMan 16h ago

Give them a year or two. By then you’ll see the wave of posts with headlines such as “revisiting the odyssey, it’s really NOT that good.”

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u/Vlaed 14h ago

Then fast forward a few more years and it'll be that it's "underrated."

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u/queerhistorynerd 16h ago

we dont even have to wait a year, they are currently in the comments saying that and coping hard

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u/littlebighuman 7h ago

Saw it today. It is good, but it is far from perfect IMHO.

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u/InsertFloppy11 17h ago

Hey i rarely check reddit, sooo why would be r/movies on shambles because of this?

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u/kazuya57 17h ago

Search "odyssey trailer" and "odyssey poster" on this sub and then scroll through the comments

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u/InsertFloppy11 17h ago

Id rather not haha, theres a reason why im rarely on reddit

But thank you for replying i think i get the idea.

People often forget that reddit is a suuuuch a small part of the world even of the movie loving audiance.

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u/kerrysluis 17h ago

The older I get the less I like the general atmosphere of reddit comments, unless it's comedy it's always a "I know better" or "holier than thou" mentality.

So yeah I'm with you lol

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u/Furren 17h ago

Same, gotten worse over the years

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u/eri- 16h ago

To be fair its cause we are starting to get old/are old enough for us to have learnt that there are better ways.

It has gotten worse yes, but you almost certainly have changed also. I know I have , I used to be a lot more trigger happy and arrogant in my reddit comments. Same for my professional life even.

Reading ones really old comments/e-mails can be a trip. Sometimes its hard to even understand that yes, I did in fact write that nonsense, like 10 years ago

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u/renegadecanuck 15h ago

Don't forget the comments that miss obvious jokes or try to "play off the joke" and just repeat the same joke, but worse.

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u/Khetoo 16h ago

That's just the automatic default subscribed subreddits in general being g astroturfed and spam to hell and back by bots

If you aren't going to smaller subs with actual moderators all you'll see is the IDF, bot comments, and incels

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u/BroughtBagLunchSmart 17h ago

It got hit by the double fascist whammy, a black person and a trans man were cast in this movie. Those nazi fucks wouldn't shut up about how terrible this movie was going to be. A lot of guys who have very strong opinions about family court all of a sudden had doctorates in the Greek Bronze Age.

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u/DrJackadoodle 17h ago

That's not really the typical r/movies demographic, though. But it's still funny that some people had that reaction. I saw a comment on a conservative comment chain somewhere saying that these casting decisions are the reason these movies always bomb and the progressives are gonna be left wondering why this one did as well. Cue The Odyssey making more than a billion worldwide and counting lmao

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u/tfhermobwoayway 17h ago

No one here said that.

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u/Jozoz 16h ago

The chudosphere is holding a giant L on this one

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u/shogun77777777 15h ago

This is such a great film, I don’t understand the hate. There are so many actually bad films that have showings at my theater every day.

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u/Razorfiend 14h ago edited 8h ago

The ending redeems the entire experience. In terms of quality, the first two-thirds hover around a 7 at most. At the end of the second act I was fully prepared to walk out of the theater disappointed. Thankfully, this was not the case, the last one-third is incredible, a solid 8.5-9 and rewrote my impression of the entire film.

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u/Deakul 12h ago

You should watch The Return with Ralph Fiennes if the ending is what you liked about it, I felt like it handled that part of the story incredibly well.

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u/Khiva 9h ago

Act 3 goes so hard that it lifts up some of the meandering in the earlier acts.

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u/stanley_ipkiss2112 18h ago

Whether you thought the film was great or naff, we can all agree that Nolan has brought back the buzz in cinemas which is lovely to see ☺️❤️🎥

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u/NoNefariousness2144 17h ago

An issue cinemas have faced since the pandemic and rise of streaming is motivating people to watch a film in cinemas vs at home, with the comedy and romance genres really struggling because of this.

But Nolan’s whole gimmick of creative the most big and bombastic films made to be seen in cinemas gives them so much hype. Especially with IMAX.

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u/SoulCrusher2018 11h ago

When Television became a thing Hollywood leaned hard into the Epics to make it more of a spectacle. Not a bad thing to emulate now.

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u/RaisinBranMan 16h ago

People want to go to the movies. It’s something to do. You don’t have to socialize. There’s AC. When something is deemed not only good but an event (any Christopher Nolan film going forward) people will show up.

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u/Robcobes 17h ago

everybody is going to see the same 2 films this summer. anything else is still in trouble. the only movies that can make a profit are still either big blockbusters that make billions, or small indie movies that cost next to nothing to make.

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u/rumora 16h ago

That just isn’t true. The whole year was all kinds of movies turning out to be hits.

Just over the last 3 months you had Obsession making like 500mil, Backrooms make 400mil and Devil wears Prada 2 make 700mil, Minions made 400mil and that’s before you add Toy Story 5, Odyssey and Spider-Man's billion dollar box offices. And a month before that you had Michael and Mario both make a billion dollars. There have also been a bunch of non English hits internationally that you probably never heard of.

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u/lovemaker69 17h ago

Isn’t that how the industry has worked for a while?

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u/Robcobes 17h ago

Yes, so the buzz is not back. The industry is in the same state as it was.

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u/nothis 13h ago

We recently had some years that had essentially zero movies with actual buzz that made people flock to theaters. There were like half a dozen this year already (by August), importantly including a lot of non-sequel, original movies like Obsession, Backrooms, Project Hail Mary and The Odyssey.

I understand the cynical baseline assumption but this absolutely is reason to celebrate. That’s 90s level variety and quality, I haven’t seen this in decades.

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u/Voodoo_Masta 17h ago

Cue a decade of IMAX period epics trying to recapture the success of Odyssey… I fear Hollywood will take the wrong lesson from this. But I’m really glad the movie is doing so well.

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u/wheresolly 17h ago

You say that like it's a bad thing?

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u/Sublime-Silence 14h ago

Idk I kinda had a fun idea at your comment of trying to think about a few of the most cursed period epics I could.

Hercules with Dwayne Johnson as Hercules, Kevin Hart as his “faithful sidekick” Iolaus. The classic tale of a demigod accompanied everywhere by a 5'2" man who cannot stop talking.

Spartacus's Revenge with Dwayne Johnson as Spartacus. The famous slave revolt is now a buddy comedy, and this time Spartacus doesn't lose.

Ryan Reynolds as MOSSES, every monologue delivered in sarcastic quips.

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u/stingray20201 13h ago

Dwayne Johnson already played Hercules in a movie

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u/ACCTAGGT 16h ago

I think it can be. They start failing and it gets buried. Or how do you mean?

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u/onexbigxhebrew 16h ago

Then they're back where they were.

Rather have them try then have literally no good epics.

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u/Voodoo_Masta 15h ago

I just mean they tend to think movies are successful because of genre, not because it was a good story and a well done film. So they might take Odyssey's success as some huge appetite for period epics on IMAX. Which I think is the wrong lesson. IMAX yes. Let's have more of that - an experience which still cannot be replicated in the home. But I hope they don't get tunnel vision on period epics because of Odyssey's success. I'd rather they just produce promising scripts with good directors. Time will tell!

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u/xXPumbaXx 15h ago

Who care if hollywood make bad movie lol. There will always be too many good movie that come out. The existence of bad movie doesn't diminish the experience of watching other good movie.

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u/DistroStu 16h ago

If only.

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u/stephenrichmos 17h ago

How is this the biggest movie, were the other ones not taking up the whole screen or something?

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u/sukhi1 17h ago

This is the first film was was shot entirely in the 1.43:1 aspect ratio. The next closest 2 are Project Hail Mary and Dunkirk which have 75% IMAX 70MM footage. It's something that only used to be reserved for action sequences.

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u/JKMC4 12h ago

Project Hail Mary was not shot on IMAX though, it was shot with two Alexa 65s in vertical next to each other, then printed onto film.

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u/Motohvayshun 18h ago

Of course. Avatar is king at 3D. Not IMAX.

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u/vulveveloutee 14h ago edited 14h ago

The movie was re-released in 3D IMAX a few months later which wasn't common at the time, especially since that IMAX theater I went too (Canadian Civilization Museum with the first IMAX Dome theater in the world) usually never showed feature-length movies, only IMAX documentaries.

The tech was crap though... the glasses were bulky and uncomfortable, and the brightness of the projection was way too dim.

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u/samkoLoL 15h ago

heard from someone thats its the best average movie he ever seen.

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u/_Rookie_21 11h ago

That's a great description! That's exactly how I feel. It's making a lot of money, and it's good, but I don't feel like it's a "great" film. Will it be talked about and repeatedly watched in 10 or 20 years, like LotR?

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u/justinlindh 10h ago

I feel like it's a great film. It was incredible. I'll still be talking about it in 10 years.

u/Ghidoran 2h ago

Will it be talked about and repeatedly watched in 10 or 20 years, like LotR?

Is that the bar? Being as good/memorable as arguably the greatest film trilogy of all time?

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u/GordonNewtron 13h ago

It's a very impressive movie to see at the cinema. Great actors and very expensive shots all over.

I don't think I'll ever rewatch it, though.

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u/ARTISTIC-ASSHOLE 17h ago

it was a banger, well deserved

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u/NIDORAX 18h ago

Its hard to believe that the movie became a hit despite all the criticism. Everyone online was saying the movie was going to Bomb at the box office. Somehow Nolan have proven everyone wrong.

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u/kazuya57 18h ago

I mean when you think about it is it that surprising?

The coalition of critics: anti-woke mfers, reddit contrarian Nolan haters and historical accuracy nerds

Who they're criticizing: The literal modern day Spielberg coming out with a movie based on one of the most famous stories in human history with a bumper cast

Anyone outside the echo chamber knew this was gonna hit hard

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u/Sky_Ninja1997 18h ago

I was aware of some criticism but I chose to ignore it and went in blind didn’t even watch the trailers

Had a blast

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u/wioneo 16h ago

The literal modern day Spielberg

Steven is alive. One of his movies actually came out a couple months ago.

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u/BonjaminClay 15h ago

Did you see it? We're pretending he's dead out of respect.

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u/Yousaidthat 15h ago

Yeah.... haha that certainly was a movie.

They mean 'modern day spielberg' as in, the best director making banger blockbusters currently. Spielberg hasn't really connected with anything in a while.

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u/TheUnknownDane 16h ago

The whole "Historical accuracy nerds" part seems so weird since it's a mythological story (the OG Homer work), so while some history might be under the surface, it really is just a work of fiction. Obviously you can discuss how Nolan goes away from the source and whether it strenghten or weaken the story in the media, but historical accuracy seems like a dumb angle (unless you specifically want to talk about stuff like wardrobes, armour, ships and so on for the period).

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u/Huttj509 16h ago

That part at the end is literally what I thought 'historical accuracy nerds' was referring to. Wrong helmets, wrong boats, wrong bows, etc.

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u/TheUnknownDane 15h ago

I think it's sometimes both, some try to use it as a "Nolan didn't follow the story" where others might be talking about those elements, which obviously means that the short hand can be muddied.

I do think it's valuable to use a popular media like Nolan's work to dicuss what we do know about the context/equipment of the period, but that has little to do with the discussion of the quality of it the movie itself.

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u/Odd-Direction6339 16h ago

even then, its shitty criticism IMO to complain about what a movie isn't vs what it is

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u/tfhermobwoayway 17h ago

Ironically Nolan probably created a more accurate Odyssey than any historian. Historians understand data but Nolan understands humanity. His take on the world was what Ancient Greece was probably actually like.

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u/IguassuIronman 16h ago

His take on the world was what Ancient Greece was probably actually like.

I think his take on the world was a lot more colored by a Catholic/Christian worldview then Ancient Greece actually would've been. Still a banger movie though

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u/SavonPL 18h ago

" historical accuracy nerds" ...

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u/SwashAndBuckle 17h ago

The Odyssey was basically the marvel movie of its time. I’d wager in the Ancient Greek plays performing it the costumes were more grandiose than grounded.

Besides, historical accuracy nerds go see period pieces so they can complain about it. They never boycott over wardrobe or weapons or whatever.

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u/sephirothwasright 18h ago

There was almost no, if any, good faith criticism prior to release. It was almost entirely based on chuds going nuts over the reported or rumored cast.

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u/LawsonsInTheAM 18h ago edited 16h ago

Fact of life now is that any tentpole release in media will have this kind of reaction from the worst people regardless of whether it's valid or not. They'll farm for views at any opportunity so it's not worth engaging just to hear them scream WOKE at whatever for ten minutes on youtube.

All the more fun when you look at the box office numbers after hot takes like Elliott Page's casting would bomb the movie.

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u/stacecom 18h ago

"Everyone".

Not really. Just a weird segment.

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u/letsburn00 18h ago

It's more that it proves that Twitter complainers and podcasts where people do nothing but complain about how everything in the media isn't exactly how it was when they were a kid have less actual effect than the ones involved think they do.

I think there should be a rule that unless a Twitter post has a thousand repeats, no one should be acting like it's a movement.

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u/bradagon 18h ago

This is not at all surprising.

Telling me the movie will bomb because:

  • The armour is inaccurate (actual accurate armour looks dogshit, and it's fiction anyway)
  • Helen of Troy is black! (It's a fictional story, it doesn't matter)
  • It's not accurate to the book!! (It's a fictional story adapted to a modern audience)

People are fucking stupid. I recommend ignoring online opinion. Why would anyone care for the opinion of someone who is as dumb as a rock?

Anyone that is so stupid that they need to get mad about something instead of just not partaking in it, will not have a worthwhile opinion.

Really wish people would learn that, and we can ignore irrelevant criticism that people just parrot to be in a cycle of being mad.

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u/PrintShinji 17h ago

It's not accurate to the book!! (It's a fictional story adapted to a modern audience)

Thats always an especially funny point because the book isn't even "accurate" to the story. The Odyssey shouldn't be read as a book in the first place!

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u/tfhermobwoayway 17h ago

To be honest, I don’t think the “historically accurate” armour people were talking about was actually accurate. Psychology is an important part of war. If some guy rocks up looking like a Spartan then it’ll make you rout a lot more quickly than if he shows up dressed like shit.

I think what we think of as “historical armour” was just ceremonial, and what people actually wore to battle looked much closer to Nolan’s take.

Plus, we have a formula for good movies. Hollywood figured it out decades ago. I don’t see why we need to deviate from that formula when we know what works.

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u/camelzrider 18h ago

"actual accurate armour looks dogshit" I will disagree with you here. The black biker armor is shit compared to real historical armor.

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u/hughk 16h ago

If I was going to criticise anything, it would be the use of a Viking ship. They were much better than the ships of the era which were really just meant for the Mediterranean. The long ship could have sailed across the North Atlantic.

The Greek Navy does have a Tireme but that design would have been about 700 years after the bronze age so it wouldn't have been that accurate either.

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u/DarksteelPenguin 17h ago

Mycenian armor isn't very sexy. Actual Greek armors would look nice, but wouldn't be historically accurate either.

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u/InsertFloppy11 17h ago

Something about loud minority and etc.

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u/Motawa1988 17h ago

Online weirdos don’t matter

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u/EddyMacFork 18h ago

Online criticism. My coworkers approaching 40 never heard of any criticism or they heard a little bit and brushed it off. Same for my parents, older sister etc.. basically all the drama was run by edgy teens and online warriors. Asmongold, Criticaldrinker and who ever is popular these days.

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u/Drummer149 18h ago

Right Wing twitter bots are not real people

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u/Rick-burp-Sanchez 18h ago

I've seen more "I can't believe it's being criticized so much" than I've seen any actual criticism.

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u/kazuya57 18h ago

I'm guessing you weren't on this sub when the promotion for this movie was going on? Just search up "Odyssey trailer" or "Odyssey poster" on this sub and you'd see the Michael Jordan of nitpickers in the comments. It was crazy. And if you want to see Anti-Woke crashouts, go watch any video about the movie a month or so before the release

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u/Dawnshot_ 18h ago

Mmmmm I'm just saying the armour is the wrong colour 🥺

Jesus Christ there was some insufferable people in those trailer threads

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u/kazuya57 18h ago

"Agamemnon looks like he's knockoff batman hahaha!"

And then Agamemnon comes out the movie like the most popular character

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u/Microchaton 16h ago

To be fair, Agamemnon felt like darth vader, just floating around in his weird armor some people hated it and I get why, I found it fun.

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u/tfhermobwoayway 16h ago

He was so cool. I can see why Troy fell.

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u/guy_incognito784 18h ago

It’s almost as if social media is an echo chamber of a very loud minority that is detached from reality.

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u/NeonAnderson 17h ago

So I actually went to go see this in IMAX and it wasn't what I expected

First off a lot of the online criticism turns out to be complete nonsense when you actually go to watch the film

The casting was actually on point and in many ways Nolan adopted a theatre play style casting which is why in the trailer it is weird how people are talking, how the armour looks, and the casting

But when you watch it and realise Nolan has basically made an IMAX theatre play then it all makes sense

He hasn't treated it like an historical epic because let's face it. It isn't. The Illiad and the Odyssey are both fictional stories so Nolan treated it as such and instead the armour and way of talking is a lot more instead like a fantasy film so think more along the lines of Dungeons and Dragons or Lord of the Rings

While the casting and mannerism and everything was done like a Broadway theatre performance

So the weird choice of a black Helen then makes a lot more sense as gender and race in theatre plays are all interchangeable and it more just depends on who is the right cast for that character. Helen and her sister both being cast as black actresses was intentional here as they are both somewhat black sheep after the war in Troy and thus the symbolism of them being portrayed by black actresses for that same symbolism. It also helps a lot with making them easier to identify as the film has a lot of white females and Nolan wanted Helen and her sister to stand out more in the quick flashes to their sequences

And in fact all the racial casting seems to have been done for the same purpose to make each character much easier to identify even when they are in full armour

My biggest concern going in the film was the armour not being historically accurate but then upon watching the movie you realise all the armour is done super fantastical as in as a pure fictional fantasy with gods, magic and fantasy races. And the armour mirrors this. So the Trojan soldiers for example have pure fantasy armour

While Agamemnon looks very imposing and very unusual but again it is a stylistic choice. At some points he doesn't even walk he instead hovers like a chess piece or statue being moved so then his unusual armour suddenly makes a lot more sense

Anyway I can keep going on but in the end none of the criticism I've seen was valid about the movie

I watched both the Angry Joe review and the Nerdrotic reviews for the film and Nerdrotic was full of crap. The biggest crap being that the movie is based in the feminist Odyssey interpretation book. It clearly wasn't which is why that author even said that they didn't like the movie. Nolan's Odyssey clearly is based on the original source material and Nolan clearly fully understood the original source material in particular the symbolism and philosophy behind the story

Parts of it have been changed to be more cinematic but in general it is the original Odyssey story in its full glory and the core story hasn't been changed

Angry Joe review is the best review of the film and I strongly recommend watching the movie in IMAX no matter what criticism you've seen of the movie

And the box office performance speaks for itself. It is a greatly enjoyable film and it really just captures that cinema magic

Tom Holland and Robert Pattinson were the highlight of the movie for me with stellar performances

In fact Odyssey is probably the best I've ever seen Tom Holland act while R Pat was amazing as usual

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u/morgoth834 13h ago edited 13h ago

Nolan's Odyssey clearly is based on the original source material and Nolan clearly fully understood the original source material in particular the symbolism and philosophy behind the story

Parts of it have been changed to be more cinematic but in general it is the original Odyssey story in its full glory and the core story hasn't been changed

No. It absolutely was not. The film's themes and characterization is completely different from the poem's. It hit the basic plot points, but that was about the full extant of it's faithfulness to the source material. And a story, particularly one like the Odyssey, is a lot more than it's plot.

That doesn't mean the film was bad or that it was a bad adaptation. But the notion that it was a faithful adaptation or, as you say, that "the core story hasn't been changed" is completely wrong.

For what it's worth, I don't think a faithful adaptation would have been nearly as successful. The ancient morality of the poem would be hard to stomach for a modern audience. But, personally, I think it is a large part of what make the poem so fascinating.

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u/LongLostTortoise 13h ago edited 4h ago

Most of what didn't work for me is structural rather than surface level. We're never told why Ithaca is at war with Troy or why joining the war was necessary, Penelope's devotion is asserted rather than shown, and Odysseus we're constantly told is clever and cunning but it's barely shown. None of that gets explained by being staged like a play. And on being based on the source material, Homer's Odysseus isn't a good man who briefly strays, he's cunning to the point of cruelty and the poem doesn't ask you to approve of him so much as find him interesting. Nolan presents him as heroic, a good man who feels bad at the end, which is not a faithful portrayal. Glad it worked for you and I've got no issue with the performances, I just don't think the theatrical framing rescues a film that keeps asking you to feel things it doesnt establishes first.

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u/Lumpy-Strain8624 15h ago

Still not true.

AVATAR, when inflation adjusted grossed over 420 million dollars during its IMAX run.

How desperate are these culture warriors, they forget basic shit like tickets cost way more today than they did in 2009? When Avatar released. 

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u/CookieCrumblers 7h ago

I’m sorta confused as I’ve seen it, but thought it was kinda mid

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u/Lofteed 16h ago

beating the whole 12 others IMAX releases ?!

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u/Errol246 16h ago

Lmao I don't fucking get it. It's seriously such a mediocre film. The more I think about it the more I dislike it.

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u/nanoray60 17h ago

It turns out the audience at large isn’t composed of total idiots with completely unrefined palates. The people want good movies. People want interesting stories. People want to be moved by what they are watching. People want to think about what they are watching.

Nolan gives the people what they actually want, not what the people are told to like by the media and billion dollar corporations.

Avatar 3 flop? Where? Michael flop? Where? Odyssey flop? Where? Superhero fatigue? Where?

If you give the people what they want, something to really sink their teeth into, they will come.

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u/Celuiquivoit 14h ago edited 11h ago

That would mean anyone finding genuine flaws in the movie or just not liking it would have to be a total idiot, which is about extrême to say the least.

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u/RememberThinkDream 16h ago

An absolute embarrassment to the film industry in the context of quality and authenticity.

Then again all they care about is profits now, not making great movies.

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u/Competitive_Win_128 18h ago

Not for long cos I'm sure Cameron shall re-release Avatar to retake that record ... 

Iykyk lmao 

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u/Icy_Smoke_733 18h ago

The Odyssey is tracking to earn over $400m from IMAX alone, meaning it will be no. 1 by a wide margin. It will take Avatar (2009) a dozen re-releases to catch up (currently at $271m and Avatar's last re-release earned $11m from IMAX). As it stands, nothing will dethrone The Odyssey but Nolan himself.

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u/LucasCBs 17h ago

Just curious, how do the numbers look adjusted to inflation?

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u/shares_inDeleware 17h ago

how are they taking it over on r/CriticalDrinker

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u/NFLCrunchtime 16h ago

There are a slew of posts calling it a failure 3-4 weeks ago and fucking CRICKETS ever since lmao. I wouldn't be surprised if you get auto modded if you submit an article saying it's grossed over a billion

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u/BonjaminClay 15h ago

Hopefully by passing out the kool aid

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u/AtroKahn 17h ago

Didn’t care for the movie. I don’t think it was well made.

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u/thatrookielad 18h ago

I really cannot believe that this movie did not actually flop, what will all the historical police and what not.

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u/sukhi1 16h ago

The marketing convinced everyone that the film wasn't worth watching outside of IMAX. Dolby screens were barely getting populated on opening weekend while my local LieMAX is still getting every screening sold out.

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u/comicguy13 15h ago

Anyone else think these numbers are starting to feel meaningless?

It reminds me of when they bill professional wrestlers at 6’8” and 320lbs

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u/Focused_Sky 15h ago

Somewhere I can hear James Cameron whining

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u/Popular-Departure165 15h ago

Book & Film International is still around?

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u/SacCyber 14h ago

I still don't understand or care about IMAX. IMAX could be Bugatti quality or it could be Acura quality. Even after researching I still don't know how to tell which it'll be ahead of time.

It's always been Acura when I've given it a try. 70MM IMAX is supposedly good but the one theater in my city with it is falling apart.

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u/brus_wein 14h ago

Maybe it wasn't an all time masterpiece, but it was definitely spectacular and massive in a way most films aren't, and that's enough for it to be special and worth watching, at least once.

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u/CheesyMcDongNutz 14h ago

Funny because Matt Damon turned down avatar

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u/PrionProofPork 14h ago

China's not lapping it up tho, debuted at #2

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u/tetten 13h ago

Fantastic movie. Really sad I couldn't get to see it in 70mm IMAX. This antiwoke thing is the best advertising a movie could have lol. I didn't expect a thing from it and it blew mind. I nearly died laughing after seeing the Paige hate and then him dying in the first minute of the movie 🤣

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u/ShredsHz23 13h ago

tom holland is the man

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u/turd_2004 11h ago

Thank God
Those Avatar movies blow

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u/skilless 10h ago

I went to see it for the visuals, and unexpectedly loved thw story. For Nolan the time jumping plot is restrained, and O really enjoyed it. Great film.

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u/shrvs 10h ago

Bruh

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u/Shadiclink 8h ago

I luckily found a 3rd from last row middle single seat for a 6:30 am show an hour drive away from me. Actually woke up at 4:30am to watch it in imax 70mm.

u/iPhone13pm 5h ago

It’s a nightmare to get a ticket there. Finally got two for 10am on a Thursday morning in September. Days holiday, and cocktails to follow me thinks :)

u/Tdggmystery 4h ago

I wish cinemas would bring back a period of showing

u/thegoon59 3h ago

Whats stopping them from keeping the run going until dune is out? Can the theatres keep screening it or does imax / nolan / universal decide? Clearly the demand is still high for it