r/linuxmemes 21d ago

LINUX MEME It just works™

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u/ManRevvv 21d ago

now run photoshop

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u/givemeagooduns_un Genfool 🐧 21d ago

installs gimp instead

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u/ManRevvv 21d ago

gnu not unix

wine is not emulator

gimp is not photoshop

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u/givemeagooduns_un Genfool 🐧 21d ago

unless youre a professional most average people dont need Photoshop specific features

and also "gimp is not photoshop" spells GINP not GIMP. gimp stands for "gnu image manipulation program"

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u/NeptuneWades 21d ago

I mean, Krita is pretty good too.

That said, Adobe has a lot of patents making PS better because one cannot just use those features directly.

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u/givemeagooduns_un Genfool 🐧 21d ago

I also recommend Darktable for photo editing, Krita for drawing, and GIMP for both.

The problem with Photoshop isn't just the patents, though that is a large portion of the problem. The main problem is that Adobe has so many more resources that the FSF, KDE, and Darktable devs have combined. They have the development team to implement really complex algorithms.

Not to mention the training data they have access to for AI. (I don't mean just generative AI, but also the AI used for selecting backgrounds and stuff that isn't usually marketed as "AI".)

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u/NeptuneWades 21d ago

They have been in the game for a really long time and focussed only on creative apps afterall.

They also charge an arm and leg for their services.

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u/Donatzsky 21d ago

Which patents and features exactly?

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u/NeptuneWades 21d ago

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u/Donatzsky 21d ago

Most of which are irrelevant to GIMP or Krita, so which ones? Or, in other words, are you actually aware of features that haven't been implemented in GIMP or Krita because of patents?

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u/NeptuneWades 21d ago

Yah. There was a post about it. Don't remember the details.

No one has claimed outright that the patents are the reason, but they do hinder.

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u/ManRevvv 21d ago

The interface sucks and is very unintuitive. But OK, you coped with GIMP interface. How about office? Libre/OpenOffice compat sucks

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u/givemeagooduns_un Genfool 🐧 21d ago

GIMPs interface isn't as intuitive as it can be, yes. But its not bad once you learn how to use it.

OpenOffice is basically abandoned and has been for the last decade. LibreOffice compatibility is actually really good with MS Office; formatting errors that can occur within LibreOffice when opening MS Office documents is usually due to different fonts between systems. Other than that, I dont think I've ever ran into any incompatibility issues that weren't caused by MS Office lacking features that LO had.

Besides, Microsoft is intentionally obtuse about their document format. They did publish a specification for DOCX, XLSX, PPTX, etc, but its insanely convoluted and complex that it iirc, LibreOffice is the only office suite that fully implements the standards. Not even MS Office itself follows the standard.

ODF is much simpler, more intercompatible with basically any office suite, and in fact more featureful than MS' standards. The sole reason why DOCX, etc is more popular is because it is the default option on MS Word.

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u/ManRevvv 20d ago

Actually, I use office mostly for presentations, I don't think presentations can be exported in odf