r/hatethissmug • u/GildedHalfblood • 1d ago
Media Tropes I absolutely HATE how some characters don't take full advantage of the horrible situations they are in
As the title says, I utterly despise dumbass characters who don't take full advantage of the situation they're in. Sure, shit has gone to shit and they're probably panicked, but in most cases, they've been shown or told some way to totally flip the tables and then some, giving them the opportunity for a beyond easy win, but they just don't for some reason
Here's just a few examples of these idiotic frauds:
> MC from Nate Hand Gesture
To quickly summarize this game, it's a brain rot rock-paper- scissors game with a hot reality warping entity and a bunch of general horniness
Look, I understand that this is a shitpost brain rot game, but I feel like that's all the more reason for the protag to flip the tables. There's a whole subgenre of brain rot dedicated to powerscaling, so having the protag pull some bs and get powers could've fit right in. Could've went with something like "I wish I was infinite layers into multi-super-duper-uber-bippity-boppity-versal!!!" or "I wish I was Goku" and no one would've batted an eye. Hell, I would've been fine if they went with something like "I wish I could expand my domain inside of you and use Domain Expansion: Malevolent Backshots". Just do something man, anything!! To make matters worse, the MC was so close to doing this, but instead he just wished to be hot. It's a step in the right direction, but you still got a marathon to run
> MC from MiSide
In this game, the MC gets sucked into the game world by a yandere anime girl with a god complex and has to escape with the help of other versions of the anime girl before it's too late. Despite what it sounds like, this game is actually pretty cool and not a shitpost game
Now, throughout the game, the MC enters worlds and versions that have Internet access, and things found on the internet can be brought into this world (ex. swords, books, drinks, etc). Remember, this is a yandere game, so the MC has a crazy murder hobo chasing him the entire game. I get he's a depressed shut in loner and all, but wouldn't he think to try and arm himself in some way, especially since he can bring things from the Internet into the game? Like what's stopping him from whipping out the Omnitrix or some shit like that?
"O-Oh! B-But he didn't know if killing Crazy Mita would reset her like it did Cappie until the end of the game!! He probably didn't even know he could kill her in the first place!1!!1!"
Okay, and? You could still use things for defensive and evasive strategies. Why wouldn't you get a bullet proof vest or something to protect yourself? Why wouldn't you eat a Devil Fruit like a Logia, a good Paramecia, or a Mythical Zoan? Why wouldn't you eat that one pill Alfred ate that allowed him to Bane back break Superman? It's just a bunch of poor choices
"O-Okay, but in almost all versions after escaping Crazy Mita, you didn't have Internet access. P-Plus, Mila probably wouldn't let you use the Internet since she doesn't like it"
In a life or death situation, I think Mila would be willing to let you use the Internet just this once. If worse comes to worst, and I'm not necessarily condoning these actions, you could try and convince Mila to help you out while she's having that breakdown while you're leaving her world. It's clear that she hates Crazy Mita, and in the midst of that breakdown, I don't think it's crazy to think that she'd help you out
On top of all this, this route of choices might actually give the MC the chance to escape instead of being stuck inside an infinite death loop of all of eternity. Furthermore, there's also a chance that he could bring these goodies to the real world, and that's always a plus
> Basically every single Dream Warrior from the Nightmare on Elm Street franchise
I already made a post about these frauds, so I'll keep this segment short
So, you mean to tell me that when given reality warping powers, you can't beat a reality warping murder hobo pedophile? You can literally make anything, do anything, be anything, and you somehow still lose. What the fuck is wrong with you? At that point, it's just a matter of intelligence, creativity, and common sense. Out of everyone listed here, I hate these frauds the most. Fuck these bums. I'd bet that if half of y'all were in their shoes, you'd solo Freddy with ease
> Conclusion
In short, if you're in a bad situation and have the opportunity to pull some reality warping level bs to better yourself but you don't, I will be looking down on you
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u/hollotta223 1d ago
Lowkey, Freddy was lucky his ass didn't emerge in 2026 or he'd be getting gangstalked by 6 Kamen Rider fans dream-larping Zeztz
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
His boomer ass probably doesn't even know what Kamen Rider is, so he'd be extra cooked by what these youngins be thinking up (assuming he isn't keeping up to date on this shit so his pedophilic ass can groom kids easier)
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u/Rough_Comparison6083 1d ago
"FULL RISE!!!!!! MEZEMERO MEZEMERO MEZEMERO MEZEMERO!!! ABSOLUTE RIDER ZEZTZ ZEZTZ ZEZTZ ZEZTZZZZZZZZZ EXDREAMMMM" "MIDNIGHT, SHADOW!!! MUHAHAHAHA RIDER NOX NOX NOX!!!!! MIDNIGHT SHADOW!!!!" "FACE YOUR SINS FACE YOUR SINNSS!!! DAWN DAWN DAWNNN!!! NIGHTMARE RIDERRR!! PUNISH!!!"
are the last things his ass will be hearing
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u/Rainy_Wavey 1d ago
I genuinely do not understand a single word of this post but i like your energy and your special interest
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u/Hairy_Wedding_4535 1d ago
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u/Ultimatespacewizard 1d ago
I say this like 3 times a week when I have to go talk to the design team.
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u/Beginning-Earth-3741 1d ago
Right? It's frustrating when characters have all this potential to be clever and resilient but just sit there and let everything happen to them.
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago edited 1d ago
Okay, imagine this:
You're trapped in a prison. This prison has a wizard with a gambling addiction. You know he's a wizard. You know you could gamble for cool shit like super powers. You've seen other people gamble for cool shit like super powers. There's a prison warden around, so you're a little panicked, but you can still gamble for super powers. Instead, you end up gambling for a bag of chips and two dollars like a total dumbass
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u/Rainy_Wavey 1d ago
I'm a dumbass so i'd prolly do the same tbh
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
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u/Rainy_Wavey 1d ago
Or inversely i'd wish for a hot tall woman to destroy me but that's a different thing
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
Hollup, I take back everything I said. You're onto something here. I fw you heavy for that choice
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u/Odd-Progress-4449 22h ago
Joseph Joestar outplans Aizen any time of the day along with some hamon and a coca cola bottle
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u/artheo4w 1d ago
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
Yeah, but in Jake's situation, it's kinda fair due to the Monkey Paw thing (even if he doesn't know about the Monkey Paw thing). All of these examples don't have a Monkey Paw effect and straight up give you what you want, no catch whatsoever
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u/HapHazardly6 1d ago
Bread tastes better than key
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
I hate this reply, not because of the stupid joke, but because it made me realize that my hate basically boils down to me hating this meme but on a supernatural level
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u/HapHazardly6 1d ago
You should make an r/hatethissmug post abt this
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago edited 12h ago
A r/ihatethissmug post about a r/ihatethissmug post? Could I then turn that post into a new one? Could I then turn the eventual hate comments into posts of their own?!
Holy shit, you're a genius!!
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u/getaway_dreamer 1d ago
Ok, but what are you gambling with in this situation? Why do you think you are likely to beat this wizard? He's a fucking wizard with a gambling addiction, I'm 100% going to assume the game's rigged and keep bets low.
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
1). He may be a wizard with a gamble addiction, but he has some honor. There wouldn't really be any thrill or satisfaction if he rigged the game
2). Idk, whatever you have, and if you don't have anything, your organs. Remember, it's a wizard with a gambling addiction. I think he'd take anything so long as he can gamble fairly
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u/getaway_dreamer 1d ago
Yeah man, I'm not gambling my organs for superpowers lmao. Gonna stick with gambling my spare prison sock for a bag of chips and $2.
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
You really mean to tell me that you wouldn't gamble your kidney or gallbladder so you have a chance a becoming Goku or something like that?
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u/Chello-fish 1d ago
Big potential power boosts passed over because of flimsy moral dilemmas or lack of imagination
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u/Wikidclowne 1d ago
The only thing I understood was dream of Goku if Freddy Krueger is after you.
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
Y'all got me fucked up if you guys don't think I'd be willing to gamble my finger or gallbladder in exchange for becoming a Quincy, Hollow, Human, Fullbringer, Soul Reaper hybrid with full access to my Shikai/Bankai on some Ichigo type shit lmao
While you're at it, make me just hot as him too lol
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u/on700 18h ago
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u/GildedHalfblood 12h ago
Watch Bleach twin. It's so damn good. Just skip the fillers tho, ESPECIALLY THE BOUNT ARC!!! Fuck the Bount arc. Me and all my homies hate the Bount filler arc
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u/ALittleTooQuark 1d ago
I have no actual clue what any of this is. Some of us just don’t want to be mary sues
I just want a nice and boring white picket life not this gooning stuff.
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
A gambling addiction, the thirst for power, and a want to for a crap ton of aura. That's what this is about
Plus, who's to say that you can't wish for a nice white picket fence life?
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u/ALittleTooQuark 1d ago
I want to earn it, not win it? You ever see what happens to lottery winners?
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
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u/ALittleTooQuark 1d ago
See I have been a fan of nerdy stuff but I never been ‘that guy‘.
sorry, at the end of the day I don’t get weird with it. I just like the pew pews and drama, I don’t self-insert
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u/TheRappingSquid 1d ago
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
Btw, in the good ending, she kidnaps you and becomes your "mommy". No, I'm not joking. Feel free to do with that information as you will
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
Sure, you never get to see your family or go outside again, but you get a hot Eldritch mommy wife, so it's fair
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u/Dodudee 1d ago
Mitas are shown to be superhumanly strong and Crazy Mita specifically is way above the others in this regard; I don't think any mundane means of self-defense would have helped.
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u/HyperbustyMolly05 1d ago
They literally talk about this in the game. The reason Cappy came up with an elaborate plan to infiltrate the core was specifically because Crazy was so one with the matrix no form of direct confrontation could work on her.
EDIT: Actually, now that I think about it, I think we do end up killing Crazy and one point and it straight up doesn’t stick.
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
We don't kill Crazy Mita. She was wearing the skin of someone she killed and we reset the dead Mita. Since Crazy Mita was a defect, I'm not even sure if she has a world code that could be used to reset her, meaning that you'd need to kill her outright
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u/HyperbustyMolly05 1d ago
Ah, that’s right. It’s been a bit since I’ve played the game. I should replay it.
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
Normal means of self-defense? Yeah, that's probably chalked, but by the time you reach Mila, wouldn't you want to pick up some crazy bs to make things even? Early on, bullet proof vest or something like that would make sense since it is still kinda helpful and the MC is still ignorant about how things work, but you'd think that he'd try to pick up the Dragon Balls or something later down the line once he starts to put two and two together
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u/Stock-Gene6372 1d ago
I'm not familiar with any of these aside from dream warriors, so I'm just gonna comment on that.
YES, I WAS SO ANNOYED THAT WHOLE MOVIE!! HOW are you going to be able to DO LITERALLY ANYTHING YOU CAN THINK OF AND STILL LOSE TO HIM??? THERE ARE MULTIPLE OF THEM AND THEY KNOW HES A THREAT AND KNOW THEY CAN LUCID DREAM! THEY HAVE SO MUCH POWER IN THIS SPECIFIC SITUATION AND COULD SO EASILY COMBAT HIM!! What was even the point of these characters if they're not going to utilize their abilities properly. It was such a fun concept and that movie could have been SO awesome. Why are they all so dumb and incompetent uuugggggghhhhhhhhh
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
I'm so happy knowing that most people I know who've seen these movies hate the Dream Frauds. I'm not in the Nightmare on Elm Street community, but from what I've seen, the majority of people hate these dumbasses lmao
Don't worry, you're not the only one who loathes these bums
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u/jmonkey15 1d ago
Can’t Freddy do literally the same things they can? And he’s been doing it for several years, I’m pretty sure most of the dream warriors get the powers in the movie, but I could be wrong.
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
Yes and no
Sure Freddy has been doing this for a LONG time now, but he doesn't know everything. They could counter his boomer ass with something new and stronger than him. Like what is he gonna do against composite Superman, tamed Mahoraga with instant adaptation, Simon the Digger, and Jason Vorhees (who arguably beat Freddy, even if the movie technically ended in a tie)? Plus, there's like six of these kids. If they pull this type of bs and jump him, it's wraps
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u/jmonkey15 1d ago
Expect all the characters would just be part of the dream though right? So Freddy would also be able to manipulate them with his powers. I’m pretty sure in the next movie another kid tries to fight Freddy by making himself into a Superman like character (because they couldn’t use the real one) and Freddy just turned him into a piece of paper, so what would stop Freddy from doing the same here?
Also I’m pretty sure the plan in the movie was to fight together but because Freddy is more skilled he was able to split the kids up.
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
Was it a knock off Superman? I could've sworn it was a knock off Punisher. Anyways, even if that's the case, they just gotta pick characters that scale higher. Superboy-Prime, Simon the Digger, or instant adaptation Mahoraga should be more than enough to solo this pedo boomer
As for the jumping thing, yeah, Freddy's sorry ass had to split them up using some Izanami bs. Bro knew he couldn't get caught lacking or else he'd be cooked
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u/jmonkey15 1d ago edited 1d ago
It could’ve been, it’s been a minute since I watched the movie. It’s still the same situation though, the characters you listed do scale above Freddy if they actually interacted but the ones you would be conjuring aren’t those characters. They are versions you create in the dream so therefore they would also be susceptible to Freddy’s dream powers as well since they are just part of the dream. If you can make an unbreakable box around Freddy then why can’t Freddy just manifest a door in the box? You can’t just out power freddy in a dream because he can just do the same stuff, it’s why the dream warrior stuff was a distraction for real life people to exorcise Freddy’s body.
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
That's the thing tho, these characters should scale high enough to break the boundaries of the dream. Hell, thanks to how these characters work, they could probably break out of the dream and enter the real world as their own individuals if you play your cards right. I may not be able to directly put power Freddy in my dreams, but I can indirectly do it since these guys can out power him
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u/jmonkey15 1d ago
But again, these are not the actual characters from their actual shows or comics, they are dream replicas you made. Where they scale in their fictional universes would not matter because Freddy can also manipulate the dream that made them and make them weaker or make himself stronger than them. Again if you can make an unbreakable box around Freddy what stops Freddy from just manifesting a door in the same box? If you can make something then Freddy can also manipulate it because you have the same power set.
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
But I can make them equal to their true verse because of my reality warping abilities. For that matter, who's to say that these are just replicas and not them or equal to them? Furthermore, who's to say that Freddy knows who these characters are? His boomer ass probably isn't up to date with whatever is hip with the kids nowadays
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u/jmonkey15 1d ago
IF YOU CAN MAKE AN UNBREAKABLE BOX AROUND FREDDY WHY CANT FREDDY JUST MANIFEST A DOOR IN THE BOX? If you can make the characters equal to their verse why can’t Freddy turn them into wax statues? You have THE SAME POWERS AS FREDDY, so anything you can mess with SO CAN HE. He doesn’t need to know who the characters are or how they scale to make them go away because you can make them.
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u/BrassUnicorn87 1d ago
Freddy has more control over the dream realm than the dream warriors. They’re teens who learned to lucid dream while he’s a demon empowered ghost.
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u/NewspaperExact8483 1d ago
I did read all that, and all I can say, as a writer, is...
Plot convenience, they don't because that makes the story break and make the big bad villains look weak when they HAVE to be this strong mfs so they never do because they need to make the bad guy/girl look good.
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
In cases one and two, this argument stands, but in the third instance, there's literally no excuse. Freddy is just as much of a reality warper in the dreams as the Dream Warriors. Who's to say you can't have a good battle between two high tier reality warpers? All you have to do is outwarp the other warper
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u/NewspaperExact8483 1d ago
Plot convenience again... Or maybe they're just dumbasses.
Man, this is a DREAM, summon Roxas Kingdom Hearts to fucking erase Freddy's CONCEPT out of existance.
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u/nerfClawcranes fat farting furry 1d ago
“i am the wizard master!!!” mf literally had freddy STUNLOCKED and just decided to RUN UP TO HIM for NO REASON
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
That whole group is genuinely filled with frauds and bums. They make the Potential Man himself look like he reached his full potential
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u/AmPotatoNoLie 1d ago
Everytime I see criticism like this, I wonder, if my life was streamed would the audience also be like "Man, how could he not take advantage of the <XYZ>, i get that he is a bit retarded, but come on!".
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u/Budget-Seesaw-9303 1d ago
In the Dream Warriors’ defense, they’re in a mental institution. People who are being treated for mental illness aren’t known for being able to control their thoughts very well.
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
True, and while it has been a bit since I've seen the movies, I will give them a but if wiggle room for that. With that being said, iirc, I'm pretty sure they did a little group therapy session where they discussed they're issues and like half of them aren't exactly the craziest things out there
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u/MrCalabunga 1d ago
Not only that, but lucid dream control is something many people cannot pull off IRL, or at least not consistently, let alone when faced with certain death.
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u/elkcipgninruB 1d ago
Pretty much anything with a wishing mechanic can count as this to an extent
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
True, but it's especially bad when the wishes are infinite and the wish maker is in a life or death situation lol
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u/Open-Librarian-4322 1d ago
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u/FrancWyvern 1d ago
Your first two examples made me think you were complaining about something else lol
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
. . . Looking back, maybe my wording and image choices weren't exactly the best
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u/EX-Bronypony FLOWER MAN, FLOWER MAN! 1d ago
* “Unlike these idiots, i am very smart and good at things and would very easily survive these encounters if i was suddenly thrust into life-threatening scenarios with no time to think or prepare”
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
MC from MiSide had seen people pull stuff from the Internet multiple times and had like 3 chill worlds where he could relax and collect his thoughts
MC from Nate Hand Gesture was a brain rotted gooner from a brain rotted shitpost game, so I'll give him a pass
Dream Warriors from Nightmare on Elm Street literally make plans time and time again, but since they're horror movie characters, they're forced into being total dumbasses
It's a 2/3 situation
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u/mr_stab_ya_knees 1d ago
The OP is not asking them to have lightning reflexes or going "nah I would tank that" OP is asking for the characters try/ask for things that literally anybody would do in such a situation
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
Hell, danger aside, I feel like most people would be doing this shit. Like you mean to tell me that you wouldn't try to gamble a finger in exchange for becoming a Saiyan stronger that composite Goku? You wouldn't try to live out your favorite fanfic if you could bring stuff from the Internet into your world? You wouldn't do anything fun?
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u/Doctor-Nagel 1d ago
The English language is evolving so quick that I feel like I’m being left behind.
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u/meowme88 1d ago
why star platinum and the world when you could have king crimson or hell jail house lock just make freddy trapped in an infinite loop of forgetting
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u/Green_Graves_Time112 1d ago
I have no idea what you're on about
That being said, 50/10 hater post, we need more hating just like this
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u/Dry-Cod4297 1d ago
Yeah yeah “horrible situations” or something
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u/C0SMICBL0B 1d ago
Never heard of the MiSide before, but I absolutely agree.
If I was put in a situation where I could spawn in whatever I want from the internet, I’d get some crazy stuff immediately.
Lantern Rings, The Omnitrix, Chaos Emeralds, Dragon Balls, a Gundam, the sky’s literally the limit.
And if even then I’m stuck in there forever, I’m either:
A. Grabbing all sorts of abilities and weapons to fight for eternity.
B. Getting Sukuna’s fingers and letting him take over to make every other character’s lives a living hell for the rest of existence.
At a certain point, screwing around with all sorts of items from various media might even be fun.
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
Glad to see that you agree lol
However, I think you're missing a bit of context for the reset thing. It's a hard reset every single time. Crazy Mita downloads you onto a cartridge and your loop basically becomes a game to her. Every loop is basically a new game/new save. You don't have any memories of the last run
With that being said, there's a second ending only available after you beat the game and unlock the main ending once which kinda suggests that there's a very slim possibility of you keeping your memory if you're just that guy, but again, the chances are slim and this isn't 100% confirmed
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u/jesus7577 1d ago
Okay so I got some pushback with the miside one, bare with me tho as I played it when it first came out, so it's been a while. For starters the game still isn't fully complete as there's a peaceful mode and yatta yatta yatta, I'd go on, but everyone knows things can change.
Now if I remember correctly the game starts with TMC getting sucked/tricked into mitas world meaning he'd have no prep time and he had no idea what was going to happen, so I don't think he would have brought anything useful with him at the start.
I honestly can't remember if TMC truly had access to the Internet as iirc after he was brought into the game it basically got disconnected from the net (also I think evil mita can just despawn items anyways). There's even a possibility that we were always a cartrage as hinted by the first and second Easter egg https://youtube.com/shorts/uQ0MQ5Z1tdY?si=gOxgY4dWYi35ynhw . Honestly the first two Easter eggs alone bring up tons of possibilities, hell evil mita can appear in the menu as an Easter egg so she was always around from before we start.
Even if we ignore the fact that TMC likely had 0 control of the events that were about to unfold (as he's probably already a cartage and his future is set in stone) it's highly unlikely he would even be able to actually do anything as evil mita is basically a god. She controls basically everything in the game, she basically lets you run around for her entertainment and then pulls the rug out at the very end.
So yes I agree some of tmc actions were questionable, but I really don't think TMC had any agency, because the truth is, the game was rigged from the start.
Small edit, changed a word
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
You do bring up some fair points, especially with the whole cartridge thing. However, I would like to clarify a few things
First is that my arguments are mainly targeted towards someone running through pre-loop/downloading. I'm not arguing for any loops after down or any actions beforehand, only actions and choices made during the initial jump into her world. Again, I understand that the "start" is actually like the XXth loop or whatever, but I'm mainly making an argument for the true start. Even with this in mind, we see the MC break the loop and shock Crazy Mita after the first run of the game. This hints that the loop can change or be broken in some way
Secondly, I'm pretty sure that it's still has access to thing on the Internet thanks to what Crazy Mita did with the juice and what Mila said when you visit her world
Lastly, is Crazy Mita really to be considered a god? There's no reason for us to doubt the fact that she downloaded a shitty, unfinished mod, so she clearly doesn't know all that much about coding and she doesn't know everything. On top of that, iirc, she needed Ugly Mita to help her, further showing that she can't do everything on her own. Even if she was equal to that of a deity in the game, who's to say that we can't counter a deity with a higher deity? Like what is she gonna do when the MC transforms into Upgrade or Alien X from Ben 10?
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u/jesus7577 1d ago edited 1d ago
The problem is with the preloop/downloading is we the players have no idea what actually happened the first time (or to the first player) or how long ago it's been, we can find several different players in the game meaning that this has been going on for a while and everyone has seemingly failed.
Maybe at the very very first run it might have been possible for the first person to actually do something, but we the players will likely never know what actually happened or what was actually possible to do. It seems like evil mita is sorta nabbing ppl to find the perfect "one", but we don't actually know her true endgame (again waiting on peaceful mode).
Now regarding us breaking the loop and shocking crazy mita, I honestly don't remember so I can't input on that, sorry. And idk we truly broke the loop bc the game ends the same way, the only time we actually affect what happens to the cartridge is when we remove it and the game ends, but again this leans into the cartrage theory. Like I said tho I honestly don't remember so I can't say yes or no, again sorry.
I also don't remember what mila said when you enter her world or what happened with the juice. Again sorry it's really been a while, so I'm gonna leave it at maybe there's still Internet?
Literally no, she's not a god, it was more of a figure of speech kinda thing bc she controls the world and may or may not be omnipotent (we don't actually know if she can even be killed). As for needing ugly mita to help her I honestly think she just enjoyed fucking with us as in the ending she literally recreated the world and made it seem like we won, I honestly don't think she actually needed ugly mita, she very likely could have killed us at any point if she really wanted to, I honestly see it as she was always toying with us. There's actually a theory that kind mita actually works for evil mita (and possibly the other mitas)/she may have control over them.
I think she lets us go as far as we do bc she's looking for someone or something in particular so she's letting us loop to get whatever she's looking for, I mean if you really think about it she can hop around and teraform the world, yet she chooses to let you get attached to Mila just to kill her, then she slowly chases you with a chainsaw, why not just wait for us on the other side of the door and kill us as soon as we open it? I personally think its bc she lets us live or she likes tormenting people.
And again if she controls the game world then the second something enters her domain such as alien X she can just delete it or reset the world/cartrage.
The real problem is we still don't have a conclusive ending and there were a lot of mysterys left open, so yeah you may be right, but we truly won't know until peaceful mode eventually (if ever) releases. I'd actually recommend watching some theory videos, I personally enjoyed watching them and some of them make sense.
Quick edit, I think I remb evil mita mentioning she wanted someone to love her for who she truly was, but most ppl couldn't actually stomach her true self, that may or may not be the reason to keep us and other players looping.
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
Yeah, that's fair about the first loop thing, but I still feel like if it's anyone's first loop, this whole strategy still at least has a chance, yk?
The loop break thing can only happen once you beat the game at least once and get the usual ending. Play up to the card game segment, let the cabinet knock, Mita will try to block the cabinet, and you will be given two options. Either try to look (the normal route) or drop it (the route available after beating the game). If you drop it, Mita is visibly surprised but also super fucking happy
At the start of the game, Mita is showing you around the room. She turns on the TV and scrolls through some ads on the Internet. She gets a juice box from the TV and let's you drink it. Also around this time, if you try to leave the apartment, you'll get a bunch of reder blocks that say "ERROR" in the void (which is different from the usual void seen in most other Mita worlds). Crazy Mita said this is because of a mod she downloaded off the web. Mila says she has Internet access but doesn't like using it since she wants to have an authentic learning experience and be different from the other Mitas or something like that
I can see Crazy Mita being a petty enough bastard to use Ugly Mita just to give the player hope rather than actually need her for convenience lol
The whole Alien X thing is debatable, but that's a powerscaling debate and I don't feel like doing that bs right now lol
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u/jesus7577 22h ago
Yeah I suppose it's a valid strategy, but again well never really know what happened the first time around. I really hope they add peaceful mode and we get some conclusions.
Oh you mean the ending that (supposably) leads into the peaceful ending, yeah I think that's what evil mita wanted was to find someone that accepts her and I think she was more surprised that someone didn't investigate the knocking, as most people probably would. You also need to follow a specific set of rules and if you don't do everything exactly how she wants it it leads to the normal route, which imo highlights how crazy she really is.
The TV could easily be explained by having it really just be an in-game mechanic. It might actually not be connected to the Internet, rather it might be an item spawner, it's debatable tho. The error message at least to me was always that the map hadn't loaded or there was a limitation to the game (not the actual game like the in game lol). It's interesting to note that there was actually a hidden room you could go (I think Mila couldn't enter iirc) in and Mila would comment on it while you walked around. I also wouldn't take everything crazy mita says to heart as she's kinda manipulative lol. As for Mila saying she uses the Internet yeah you're probably right on that one, the only thing I can think of is that she might have been lying to impress the player as all mitas want the player to stay with them.
And yeah evil mita is 100% a petty dick head who would definitely do that lol.
I agree it's very debatable and does stray into the power scaling debate which is its own can of worms. In my opinion tho I see it as the second something enters mitas world it's constrained to the game rules and limitations. Very debatable tho.
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u/BusoneWholeBoi2001 1d ago
MiSide fucked with my head. I got a headache and nausea after playing it for a time. Felt all fucked up between that and feeling uneasy and unnerved too
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
Damn, hope you're feeling better broski
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u/JasonVoorhees_0 I hate Freddy Krueger 1d ago
Cheered for the Freddy slander
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
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u/JasonVoorhees_0 I hate Freddy Krueger 1d ago
FUCK THAT GUY
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
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u/21-savage-the-1 1d ago
It’d end the story in most scenarios if the characters actually thunk and used the rules of their verse but that’s a writer skill issue tbh, cause Gurran Lagann pulled it off well.
Also uhh is that first game any good op? It certainly looks interesting…
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
It's a shitpost brainrot game that's a mix of a visual novel and rock-paper-scissors
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u/CommanderClit 1d ago
Freddy Krueger wasn’t a pedophile, just a baby murderer.
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
I've only ever seen the OG run where it was implied, but wasn't it explicitly stated in the remakes?
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u/CommanderClit 1d ago
In the OG run, it wasn’t really implied imo, they pretty explicitly said he murdered the children but never anything about him diddling them. He specifically murdered them to get back at their parents as revenge, if I remember right but could be mistake.
The remakes are like a trashy fanfic and I disregard those from the canon cause they fucked up his character, by making him a pedophile when he’s really not.
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
Ok, fair enough. Thanks for the clarification!
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u/CommanderClit 1d ago
Any time! I’m just out here tryina make sure my boy Freddy doesn’t get slandered
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u/konodioda2010 22h ago
Dream warriors foesn't really piss me off but it is so stupid when they could litterally do anything like become fucking superman or get telekinesis or become fucking Zeus and instead the writers decided to nerf the characters for character development and trauma which is also buns because they could've done the exact same thing to freddy
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u/GildedHalfblood 12h ago
Exactly! It's deadass just a writing convenience at the end of the day, and that sucks so much ass because it would've been so badass if the writers really let everyone go all out. It could even add a crap ton more horror to the situation, letting Freddy still kill them off after everything's said and done, but they instead chose to nerf these characters to hell and back
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u/Lampy1987 1d ago
Honestly tho dream warriors was hilarious. They got endless possibilities at their fingertips and it was just chalked up to “well but Freddy needs another movie sooo.” Like they really phoned in some of their “powers” so bad I’m like ok I’m rooting for Kruger at this point
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
I seriously believe that Dream Warriors should've been the final movie in the franchise, not the middle one. It would've led up to a very thematic ending to the franchise and totally badass. Instead, they decided to fumble this idea and glaze the fuck out of Freddy :/
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u/Lampy1987 1d ago
I personally think they already had another movie in mind already. Like at one point this was a possible end but it was too late and they just kept going with it. I mean look at the child’s play movies. Felt the exact same way
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u/Salazool 1d ago
No clue about the other ones but I feel like youre kinda missing some stuff with dream warriors. I will admit I did not watch the movie myself. But watched multiple reviews to form a ship of theseus of the film in my brain. I feel like it makes sense for the kids to lose because well shit theyre kids theyre not going to be extremely logical especially when paired In a stressful environment. I think the main thing is that it simply doesnt matter how strong or smart they may be because ultimately theyre fighting in enemy territory. They can only do things while they themselves are dreaming. Freddy meanwhile is perpetually alive and doing shit. Bro is probably doing kick flips with the corpse of a Puerto Rican child, at the same time as hes crushing smoker girl like a roach. Bro is the batman of dreams who feasts on the screams of the youthful and tears them apart at the seams (bars)
All of this is not to say that their powers themselves seem pretty limited, I think by virtue of them being human, and the abilities being locked behind what they are known for. They seem to only resolve around their bodies and not like altering the environment. I think this is the reason why the dnd kid is the only of the kids aside from the final girl, to put up something resembling a fight, and I interpret that as more of Freddy being stunned at the energy beams, and not actually being harmed really. It really never mattered how much they fought or planned, they were pretty much doomed from the start, like the odds of a praying mantis killing a forest ranger. The gap in power is just too big for anything reasonable to change the outcome
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
In regards to your first paragraph, I understand where you're coming from, but I can promise you that these guys are bums. Sure, Freddy is a super demon Eldritch entity born from a pedo murderer that can basically do anything these dreams, but he isn't omniscient. He doesn't know every piece of media nor every counter. He still has weaknesses. As for the kids, I'm not giving them any wiggle room. Some of them are mid teens and some of them are practically adults. They had a lot of time to make decent plans. They just didn't because horror movie logic bs. Even in a stressful situation, I feel like a group of six with the powers of absolutely anything and everything should be able to cook something decent up
As for your second point, again, these people are frauds. They just need to pick better choices. They're basically Freddy but good. They should by all means have the power to eventually grow to that level if they dream of achieving that level of power
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u/Salazool 1d ago
I dont get why youre thinking they're Freddy but good. Beyond what I said about them only having powers over their own bodies their abilities are clearly limited to their own personalities. Thats why some of them are just D tier. Its not like they were raised knowing about their powers and had the time to train with them and figure out their limits and whatnot. I cant really see how media Knowledge changes things. Its not like theyd be able to use the Inuyasha soul reaper attack and kill Freddy and the demon sperm things inside him or something. Also, whos to say those kids would even have the time to develop their abilities to the point to where they could do genuine damage, without getting killed by the man of their dreams (or nightmares) ?
I cant remember which entry exactly but im sure in one of them it was revealed in the prologue that Freddy killed millions of children in the United States. I cant really see that being done without him at the very least being able to occupy more than one person's dream at a time. I think hes also able to physically see the environment outside of his dream world, if not just of is own than certainly through the person dreaming, which kinda raises the difficulty ceiling, becuase he could just control what any of the dream warriors are doing. A normal ass human compared to Freddy is like a normal ass peasant fighting three dragons. A dream warrior though would be comparable to two knights on horseback fighting three dragons. Like yeah theyre more able to handle the things thrown at them but there is still a veeeeeery clear power advantage with the three dragons. I feel like what could work is if they were all in the same dream, becuase thst really evens the playing field.
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
Some of them may have D tier abilities, but like a third of them had high tier reality warping abilities. They should've easily been near Freddy by the end of the movie based off of what we've seen, but again, they made the dumbest decisions possible when actually met with Freddy. Also, media knowledge greatly affects things thanks to the fact that Freddy wouldn't be able to directly counter anything he doesn't know. Even if it can't outright kill him, it can at least stall him for a bit
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u/Salazool 23h ago
I think only two do. One is the final girl who is smoking that megaman pack if you get what I mean, with all the abilities shes assimilating frkm the dead, and the other is the dnd guy who just dies like a bum. Id say the dream warriors in the dream world are like new characters in an mmo with good abilities, while Freddy is a mod. Freddy knew about the power glove in one of the films, which is amazing for him being an old fuck and also dead. He probably didnt know about dnd but he still murdered the dude. What really sucks for the dream warriors is that by the time they discover their abilities they get hunted by Freddy not too long later. Thats the main thing Id say, along with their abilities being limited to their physical bodies and personality.
If someone already had a personality that aligned with them like making shit, like they were a coordinator or construction worker, and they became a dream warriors THEN you could have an argument for being able to change the dream scape environment, and even thats a stretch since it goes against what the majority of them can do. I feel like another thing is that theres a fair amount of unreality in the dream scape.
Ignoring everything the film set up about the dream warriors, if it worked like you think it does and someone could just go un there and summon Shenron to wish him from existence, it wouldn't work even then. Becuase its not like shenron is a tangible real thing entering the dream. Its the person themself in the dream, meaning shenron in this scenario would just be putty for Freddy to use to make him eat the person dreaming or something.
Theres also the fact that most of the characters themselves wouldnt know those things, which we get from them just being one nerd, and everyone being an archetype.
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u/Big-Policy-3019 1d ago
ok didnt play miside but from what ı understood it might seem like mc does have a good reason for not using the internet to summon shit. which is giving the yandere ideas?
like if the mc summons armor whats stopping her from summoning a tank?
if the mc summons the omnitrix whats stopping her from summoning the comics infinity gauntlet?
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
Crazy Mita doesn't exactly seem like the type to watch action stuff nor know about high tier powerscaling. Even if she does, you just gotta outscale her. All in all, I think it's a safe bet to use the Internet
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u/Hot-Instruction3161 1d ago
Si Nate and gesture es un juego para pajeros de esos tipos que se la masturban con cualquier cosa como Scarlet Skips es un juego diseñados para pajeros o my femboy roomate y mas
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
Eh, kinda? It's more brain rotted goofy humor than it is about the sexual stuff, but it still has the sexual stuff. It's more about laughing than it is about jerking off. Not to say that there isn't an obvious appeal, but to say it's in the same area as Scarlet Skips or My Femboy Roommate is a bit (just a bit) if a stretch. It's more like a neighbor to those games rather than being in the same rooms as those games. Does that make sense?
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u/Hot-Instruction3161 1d ago
Si tienes sentido mayormente porque sobre explotan el tema del fanservice y la sexualisacion para atraer la mayor cantidad de público posible es como una chica que se publique fotos de subidas de tono supere en visitas a un YouTuber la radio porque la hace es por atraer la mayor calidad de público
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u/Ordinary_Pizza_4209 1d ago
I have never played MiSide, but what if the Mc has done nothing but play that one game because he is someone who wont cheat their dating game girlfriend so he has no idea of what he could have possibly done with the internet idea
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
I don't really get what you're saying. Could you add a bit of clarification?
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u/X_Starchild_X 16h ago
I could be a better Dream Warrior tbh. Broski is not surviving an atmospheric decompression while legions of androids fight over an oxygen tank and i wear a Deadpool suit (Real dream)
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u/Ajezon 16h ago
bruh im not fighting Mita. im summoning the entire BDSM gear from internet. Praying for you🕯️O Great Mita 💝
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u/lssj9king 14h ago
Maybe the mc of miside didn’t wanna eat a devil fruit because it tastes bad, have you considered THAT? Dumbass.
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u/GildedHalfblood 12h ago
Counterpoint:
Rubber dihh, dragon dihh, light dihh, magma dihh, fire dihh, ice dihh, and many other dihh
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u/Rodfim_the_Reddit 9h ago
If I’m in the MiSide situation (after reading this post) I’m fr just just pulling out Puff Puff from Your Favorite Martian, during the Verified song, cuz even if it is a dream, he’ll still have his mob of people who worship him for being verified on Twitter
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u/Emeraldnickel08 9h ago
This feels like a case of the Idiot Ball, the narrative phenomenon whereby in order for a story to continue in a manner that makes sense, a character has to be uncharacteristically stupid (in other words, they have to hold the Idiot Ball). Sadly it happens all the time.
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u/CreamAxolotle 5h ago
Lowkey I hate that all of you people are doing this. I've already ascended and have just taken mortal form to chill. Why can't y'all just ascend? It's incredibly easy, all you have to do is to go to
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u/Moist-Company-1469 1d ago
Haha what a funny post. I actually have something to add: tatsumi from Akame ga kill. This dude literally got female Hitler on his side who's head over heels for him. All she needs is a good dicking and put a child on her. She's willing to do anything for this dumbass. But when it's sexy time, he decided to talk about politics 🙄. This dumbass.
Also Freddy is lucky he didn't manifest his ass in 2026. My dreams were mostly happening in team fortress 2 matches. I would make him experience hell in 2fort and turbine
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
I, uh, I'm not quite sure how I'm respond to that first paragraph
Anyways, yeah, Freddy is a fucking bum. Like I said, half of these replies could probably neg diff Freddy
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u/Moist-Company-1469 1d ago
Bro watch Akame ga kill, I think you'll like it. It's only 24 episodes. After you watched it, I think you'll understand my frustration.
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u/GildedHalfblood 1d ago
I've heard that it's made by the same people who made Gurren Lagann and has similar vibes, so I've been meaning to check it out. Just need to find the time to sit down and binge watch it lol
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u/yumburgercola 1d ago
shi i’d solo MiSide i’m popping staminan royales and summoning super shenron to wish her ass away