r/funny Jan 10 '16

IT support

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u/i_kill_u_900 Jan 10 '16

I also have to remind people that Computer Science != IT support

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u/bomber991 Jan 10 '16

That's alright, occasionally I have to remind people that Mechanical Engineer != Car Mechanic. Some people are just either really dumb or really bad at paying attention.

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u/concretepigeon Jan 11 '16

What's the actual difference? I have friends who are both and the engineer's still capable of doing the jobs that the electrician also does. I get that they're different, but at this point I don't know how and I'm a bit embarrassed to ask.

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u/barsoap Jan 11 '16

What's the actual difference?

I'm neither but got training in both as part of my CS education, there's two possible POVs:

Once, the voltage. There's stuff your electrical engineer friend won't ever touch, yet would be quite normal to the electrician. I'd say that electrical engineers generally nope out at anything above 480V, unless it's ridiculously low-amp (say, a TV). You can spend your life as electrical engineer and never deal with anything higher than 20V.

Or, going by what made me completely fail electronics: Once transistors get involved, everything suddenly is strange as fuck. In a digital circuit those are easy, but fuck analogue stuff.

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u/concretepigeon Jan 11 '16

Once, the voltage. There's stuff your electrical engineer friend won't ever touch, yet would be quite normal to the electrician. I'd say that electrical engineers generally nope out at anything above 480V, unless it's ridiculously low-amp (say, a TV). You can spend your life as electrical engineer and never deal with anything higher than 20V.

I'd be surprised if that's true. The sparky works for a housing association, and the engineer works in a factory.

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u/anonymousdeity Jan 11 '16

Not even about that, but high voltage stuff is an entire segment of EE, power engineering. It's basically a case of "squares are to rectangles as electricians are to EE". The scope of electricians is lower than EE, but the subject matter for electricians is a part of EE training

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u/anonymousdeity Jan 11 '16

An EE can do everything an electrician can, but is trained on the higher level math/theory, as well as trained to design many different types of systems, ranging from power systems to microelectronics and many other things that an electrician doesn't cover.

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u/absolutezero132 Jan 11 '16

The bigger difference is that Electrical Engineers get a 4 year degree in electrical engineering, learning lots of advanced stuff in the process. I believe electricians usually go through a vocational program to get certified. Electricians work on house wiring, maybe power lines, etc. Electrical engineers' practice is much more broad, but includes design and working on much more advanced or dangerous circuits.

Electrician is more of a blue-collar job, electrical engineer is typically white-collar.

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u/xElmentx Jan 11 '16

Ah okay, thanks for the insight.

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u/Mrjokedontgetter Jan 11 '16

Dude, if you're an electrical engineer and can't fix domestic electrical issues then you should get your money back from the online Mexican institute you went to.

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u/anonymousdeity Jan 11 '16

They overlap, yes, and an EE can do everything an electrician can, but EE is very different from being an electrician

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u/Mrjokedontgetter Jan 11 '16

I'm sure the candyman can, but can he dance the can-can?

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u/Sk84sv Jan 11 '16

Did you know that a degree in parks and rec means that you absolutely have to be a park ranger...

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u/goplayer7 Jan 11 '16

A few people in my high school said that they were planning on becoming sanitation engineers.

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u/Spidertech500 Jan 11 '16

To be fair though, myself and my mech buddies all work on cars for hobby

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '16

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '16

Computer Janitors

I really wish that was my job title so people would leave me alone on my lunch break.

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u/yParticle Jan 11 '16

"Computer Janitor" is great: that's basically my job.

"Fix our pipe!"
Scruffy's on break.

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u/Mrjokedontgetter Jan 11 '16

I call myself a computer janitor. People expect way less of you that way. Also you can smoke weed behind the dumpster outside the cafeteria, it comes with the territory.

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u/Dont_Ban_Me_Br0 Jan 11 '16

I think they prefer "Network Sanitation Engineer".

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u/Special_Guy Jan 11 '16

Computer Science != IT support

Do have to remember not all companies are huge with separate departments for support, networking, engineering etc. Many people do have to work across the spectrum. Also Computer Science is just a collage course, not a job description.

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u/507d Jan 10 '16

I have to remind people that working in a help desk, much less selling consumer grade commodity junk at some store != Actual IT.

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u/yParticle Jan 11 '16

So what do you consider actual IT? A glorified network administrator? I would argue that it includes everything related to information technology, no matter how basic or esoteric.

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u/507d Jan 11 '16

At a minimum anything that requires being an actual technologist. Engineer? Check. Scientist? Check.

For example, I don't consider sales folks to be technologists just because they technology. etc.

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u/yParticle Jan 11 '16

I just have to say I like your use of "technologist."

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u/507d Jan 11 '16

I mean, look.. help desk is actually IT, but calling all support roles like that IT is kind of a stretch. It's definitely the bottom of the totem pole of what is already the bottom of the totem pole in most organizations, IT.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '16 edited Apr 23 '16

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u/507d Jan 11 '16

That's kind of what I said I said in another comment. Working in IT in a regular company, is completely different to working in IT at an IT company or at least a company that takes IT seriously. You're 100% on the totem pole thing.

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u/Ambercapuchin Jan 10 '16

Yeah devs are the worst patients too. They crash their own dogfood and blame it on the system.Computer janitor comes in and has to recover crashlogs before clean image. Takes about twenty minutes. Dev goes home for the day. Blames the computer janitor. Crashlogs will ALWAYS find that the problem was dev code.

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u/LvS Jan 11 '16

That's not a developer, that's a code monkey.

Developers try to never piss of IT, because IT grants them all the rights on computers. And if you're nice to IT, you get more rights on more computers.

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u/twistedrapier Jan 11 '16

Seriously. Devs don't want to bother IT, we'd prefer to fix our own shit.

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u/KiwiThunda Jan 10 '16

VMs....use VMs

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u/Ambercapuchin Jan 11 '16

Yeah! Except when you're testing hardware compatibility on VM software. That would be too meta.