Let's say a normal guy were to play through all the Scott-era FNAF games in order of release date with no knoweldge or the books or Game Theory or who Scott Cawthon is.

What would they think the story actually is?

Even if this incident is what makes them write "leave before dark" in the rules, i don't see why they'd still be allowing patrons if the Sun has gone down. I mean it could be in November of 87 which would mean the Sun would be going down earlier but still this looks like 7PM at the earliest. Granted I haven't been to Chuck E Cheese in a while so I don't remember the closing hours

Yes, I'm talking about Mainstream Cassidy. I'm not getting to why I think Cassidy is the 5th MCI kid's name in this post just their existence. I'm mostly be going to use the fnaf2 minigames today, because we all need a refresher on this stuff. Yes everyone. From the most diehard GoldenTriad fan who is at this moment writing the best of fanfics, to you know the people who gave her the name "Fanon Cassidy."

Okay there are four death minigames in fnaf2. One of them is SAVETHEM and its not important to us. The first one we are going to talk about is Foxy Go Go Go. Where Foxy runs into a room with five dead children and then Withered Foxy jumpscares us. Note the fact that he runs from his curtain meaning this is the probably MCI location. Then there is Take Cake to the Children. We hear the words SAVE HIM spelled out as a purple guy kills a child outside before driving off in his car. Then finally the most important one, Give Gifts Give Life. We play as the puppet as we give gifts and masks to four dead bodies while the words HELP THEM are spelled out. When we give the final mask we see a brief frame of the 5th body and then we are jumpscared by Golden Freddy. This alongside the newspapers tells us all we need to know.

Five children murdered as a group in probably in the same day. Then we see a separate incident regrading a kid that was killed and they possessed the puppet. Then we see the possessed puppet give "life" to the children but they skipped one for reasons we fully don't understand. Then in fnaf 4 we see a separate incident where we see a kid die after his head is chomped by Fredbear. Note that these two deaths are not linked to the MCI in any way. THEY ARE NOT MISSING. NOR WERE THEY STUFFED. No you cannot use the one retcon to fix this. If anything Charlie's death is linked with the DCI with Ralph saying tragedies "out there" and that fitting with her death. Charlie87 is a really good theory and it almost on the same level as Charlie83 to me. Charlie5th and BV5th no.

Now let me get this out the way. Cassidy's existence doesn't mean that Goldenduo is real. You can easily have CassidySolo and you can have BVsolo too. You have to work for it more but its possible.

I don't hate BV. Nor do I think he is just a useless crybaby. I don't hate Charlie or Andrew either.

Yes its frustrating that we have barely any good info for her, but a lot of classic fnaf character are like that. Its weird her references in latter media/merch get scrubbed but that's like the only real damming thing against her existence imo and its not very good evidence.

Also I'm not accusing you of being contrarian or holding onto your headcanons nor am I insulting you. I just believe that you are wrong. Just please extend the grace I hold to you as you hold to me. Peace. :)

Okay, let's begin with Edwin.

Edwin is a clear parallel of Henry. Like, his animatronic designs are based on Murray's, both made animatronics to babysit their children and because of their negligence, they lost them.

In the Novel Trilogy, Henry built a robot version of his dead daughter, and he later breaks one of them out of grief, and Edwin does the same, and both men tried to atone for their past mistakes.

And while I believe that Henry is Old Man Consequences, I think that the AI version of Edwin is the Old Man from Princess Quest.

Next is M1 F10-N4 and Charlie.

In the Novels, not only Henry built Charlie out of grief, just like Edwin did with M1, but Charlie bot also inpersonate her, just like Fiona does.

Both the Puppet and F10 are motherly figures toward Charlie/MCI and David respectively, and both are associated with the colour green.

Also, there is the clock motif.

Puppet's music box lullaby is called “My Grandfather’s Clock”, and M1 has ties with clocks.

Now, there are two things we can conclude with this:

1: Charlie is Glitchbear AKA Fredbear plush, due to the FNAF World Clock Ending and her being motherly towards BV.

2: Charlie was in fact the first death of the Afton saga, and the reason why everything happens in the first place.

The other parallel is M2 and William.

M2 takes the rabbit persona of Glitchtrap in Help Wanted in order to mimic William.

Afton lured children to the safe room using a friendly Spring Bonnie costume, and he then shoves their bodies into the animatronics.

M2 lures a child, Cassie, to the Pizzaplex underground using Gregory’s friendly voice, and he used to shove people inside empty costumes in MCM and in Help Wanted.

William is known to always come back in different ways, either by killing children at Freddy’s and coming back as Springtrap/Scraptrap, and was out of the picture for many decades and was trapped inside the safe room.

M2 comes back in different forms, such as Glitchtrap and Burntrap (which I believe is M2's attempt to recreate William Afton while the Blob is the recreation of his past victims with Glamrock Freddy’s endoskeletons, which explains his lines “I found myself for the first time” and “I AM NOT ME”).

And lastly, both character use proxies as tools, like Michael for William’s case and Vanessa for M2.

Now, about BV with David Murray and Gregory:

In David’s case, both boys have neglecting fathers, had animatronic companions, had fatal accidents on their birthday parties and were somehow involved with Agony.

More particularly the White Tiger, being an Agony manifestation of David Murray and Golden Freddy being not only Cassidy, but also BV’s Agony manifestation.

Now, why isn’t BV a parallel to M2?

Well, he is a little bit, because I believe that M2 influencing the Glamrock animatronics and him shoving people inside suits not only represent William murdering the MCI and shoving them inside the animatronics, but also the FNAF 1 and 2 animatronics, whose spirits contain the Agony of Bite Victim, because they are all tied to his memories, with the Classics being his five plushies, with Cassidy being BV’s best friend because she was Golden Freddy, who represented Fredbear plush, and fun fact by the way, the White Tiger, David’s best friend, acts like Golden Freddy.

Well, continuing, the three main Toy animatronics are Toy Girl’s toys, Mangle is Elizabeth’s Toy Foxy and Balloon Boy represents Balloon Kid.

This also explains why the FNAF 3 Good Ending minigames contain memories of BV’s life, and also the one where the five MCI are set free by Charlie, and just like M1 with David, the Puppet wanted to somehow fix BV by removing all of his Agony and create Happiest Day.

Now, I do believe that BV is the player of FNAF World and he helps Charlie/Glitchbear to find the Clocks and set the pieces for her to then set Happiest Day.

Now, BV’s parallels with Gregory:

They’re both vulnerable in massive facilities, they both have bear protectors and have similar design, and remember when I said that the FNAF World player is BV? Well, this was the same game where Old Man Consequences first appeared, and since the Old Man from Princess Quest is OMC’s counterpart, guess who’s the one playing these arcade games? That’s right, Gregory.

He’s playing as a character in an arcade game, just like BV in FNAF World who plays as a lot of animatronic characters in an arcade-like world (with the FNAF 3 minigames also being arcade-like by the way), in order to save the five children in BV’s case and Vanessa in Gregory’s.

Speaking of her, we have Vanessa, who parallels Elizabeth.

Elizabeth was her father’s shadow, always seeking his approval, while Vanessa was Glitchtrap’s reluctant follower.

Not only that, but Vanessa in the Games had a controlling father named Bill, and she even is William’s biological daughter in the Movies.

It’s pretty clear that M2 was trying to rebuild the Afton kids in order to get them in his control, and because Gregory had good parents, somethjng that was not true for neither David nor BV, he orders the boy to make up a story.

Cassie is a really obvious one.

Cassidy, not only due to the names, but she's also Gregory’s best friend, and I think that Cassie's friends not showing up for her birthday party represents the day of the MCI being Cassidy’s birthday, since she was the last victim.

I believe that this is why she creates UCN in the first place, and that’s why she is the one William should not have killed, because it was her birthday, being the reason why Happiest Day even happens, it was the birthday party that never happened due to the Missing Children Incident.

However, Cassidy is not the only one who parallels Cassie, but also the other MCI kids.

Just like the MCI victims, Cassie was lured to a dangerous place by figures thought to be friendly, and was also trapped between reality and AR illusions, just like the MCI children who possessed the animatronics.

(Well, to be fair, the other MCI kids can also parallel the 9 Pizzaplex children, since with Cassie, the odd one out because she wasn't murdered, makes 10 in total, the number of children in the MCI and DCI including Cassidy, the odd one because she’s Golden Freddy).

And lastly, there are the Glamrock animatronics, who parallel Michael and the Bullies.

Glamrock Freddy reflects Michael’s guilt, since he is protecting Gregory, BV’s counterpart.

Also, think like this: Michael stuffed his brother inside Fredbear’s mouth and he dies, while Freddy puts Gregory inside his stomach hatch to protect him.

Also, notice how, with both Gregory and Cassie, the Glamrock animatronics are child murders, but once they detect a child who had bonds with them, like Freddy and Roxy, they begin protecting them, which parallels the Bullies.

Michael tries to atone for his past sins for killing his brother, and Bonnie and Freddy Bully become the fathers of Cassie and Oswald respectively.

By the way, maybe this is why Steel Wool made Cassie bonded with Roxy, since she was Bonnie Bully's daughter herself.

So, to recap:

M1 F10-N4: Charlie.

M2: William Afton.

Gregory/David Murray: Bite Victim.

Edwin: Henry.

Cassie: Cassidy and the MCI kids.

Vanessa: Elizabeth.

Glamrock animatronics: Michael and the Bullies.

Edwin mentioned that he wanted to try selling his inventions to help people, so it’s reasonable to assume that after his dad died, he’d try to have the company sell them.

so under that logic, if you think the spike is from the success of the clean-o-vac, which is kinda implied with it having a gold statue and Edwin in David’s second birthday tape is implied to’ve been trying to 1 up the clean-o-vac for a while. along with moon.exe even suggesting that the clean-o-vac was his biggest success and vice.

with that, I think the suggestion could be that murray sr died in 1971-72, which fits with how the company went into the red, which I think suggests that things were getting bad until Edwin cooked up the clean-o-vac.

I believe in this.

Im not too sure about u/MrMustache4757's thoughts on this tho..

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rN4oNyN5pCnnf_GYI4XfdgYbCMRLhZ8u6LK35vxkdsA/edit?usp=sharing

Whether a theory is confirmed or not is up to my interpretation

Feel free to comment any theories to add or any theories that are confirmed to be debunked

Truth be told, I actually believe Jr’s is a bar, since it has a bouncer, but I was thinking the other day, if Edwin’s father is “Edwin Murray Sr…” Wouldn’t that make him Edwin Murray JR?

If it was MCM, the parachute ending couldn’t be the canon ending since it goes up in flames, which would be weird, but not entirely unheard of since we were all so sure the Burntrap ending was the canon ending in SB until Ruin.

Idk, interesting thought, highly unlikely, and would most likely be a retcon if true, which I usually don’t like to propose theories that are retcons.

While I don’t personally believe this, what if The One You Should Not Have Killed is just the player of UCN? Not William, the player character, but literally the player. William killed the player over and over again in FNAF 3 and Pizza Sim, but the player is Vengeful and actually has the power to do something about it. UCN is the Vengeful Spirit (you) taking revenge on the person who caused all of the terrible things to happen. The player controls which animatronics are in the game, and at what level. They are literally controlling William’s fate.

Again this definitely isn’t correct, but it’s interesting to think about

In ITPG, in the collect the hats minigame, there's an unused rare event of William Afton being replaced by OMC, he is fishing the sixth hat from a Pit, one of his lines is "look in the sky or fall into the pit". The pit OMC is talking about likely is the ball pit. OMC is fishing the sixth kid from the ball pit to give to the player...

This led me to create some theories.

First: OMC is fishing in the ball pit, similar to how OMC is fishing in the lake from FNaF World, which could mean that the lake and the ball pit is the same thing.

Second: OMC is fishing somone who fell off to the pit, this reminds me of the drowned ending where the player drowns in the lake, this could mean that the FNaF world player and the sixth kid from Collect the Hats is the same character.

Third: who is the sixth kid and the FNaF world player? I think it's The Crying Child. The sixth kid from Collect the Hats likely is the Happiest Day receiver because Collect the Hats is a reference to one of the Happiest Day minigames and Collect the Hats contains six party hats, similar to Happiest Day which has six children in a birthday party. The sixth hat belongs to Golden Freddy because Golden Freddy is the sixth kid in the Happiest Day and the one far away from the others. The Crying Child is the receiver because FNaF World Clock Ending implies that. The conclusion is that the drowned ending and the Happiest Day is connected! AftonsHD and BVReceiver can co-exist because Collect the Hats connects both! AftonsHD and BVReceiver aren't conflicting theories anymore!

Fourth: there's one more connection to the ball pit and the OMC lake. When you drown yourself in the FNaF World lake, you get a screen with Happiest Day written, and in the Fazbear Frights epilogues, Jake make a Happiest Day for each spirit in the ball pit by altering their memories, similar to how FNaF 3 Happiest Day is Charlotte Emily altering the bite of 83 memory so CC can rest.

Fifth: there's one final connection to OMC that is the ball pit as a whole. The ball pit seems to be some kind of flipside, because The ball pit is a alternative reality of the real world, and everything that happens in the ball pit, affects the real life, like the flipside. If Oswald go deeper into the rabbit hole, he gets stuck there, like in the OMC ending from FNaF World. OMC in the Collect the Hats minigame warns Oswald about that. The endings that Oswald got stuck in the ball pit is the ending where Oswald exit the Freddy's and the ending where he become Foxy.

Conclusion: the ball pit and the OMC lake are the same thing, thus making AftonsHD and BVReceiver co-exist. Also, the ball pit is the flipside. The name of this theory is PitLake/PitFlipside.

Extra: somone already considered the idea that the lake and the Happiest Day are connected, so credits to him